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Logicboy03: Bulletin was N100 2 years ago at my church.

Policewoman: Hahahaaaaa...... chai! Gi bu nwa efuola. Even here in Abuja and even in P.H they sell as low as N20 and N50. If u r telling the truth oya tell me the name of the parish and the location.

Logicboy03: Lagos boi!

St Dominic/Agnes/Leos.

Just to expose the shameless liar and slanderer. Notice the Parishes he mentions and notice the name of the Parish on this bulletin and the price which is under the picture on the bulletin.

N10!

Oh! So spirits even exist at all... "I am an Atheist"... Indeed!

ogoamaka99: ITALO, you are still confusing issue about opinion. The choice you make in every thing not only religious matters are determined by your opinion. That is why what you choose, others may reject. And your choice is good or bad depending on your perception.

In christian community for instance, there are many pastors that ministers to hundreds of thousand every week. These people held these MOG in high esteem while in this forum few elements sees these men of GOD differently. The way you take a MOG is determined by the opinion you have about that MOG.

Our problem in this forum is that the opinion we have on any issue we tend to ENFORCE IT ON OTHERS.Anyone who sees it differently we take the person as not knowing any thing. I am saying that we should respect individual opinion.

I already said I agree that we should respect other people's opinions. Then I asked you: but should we accept other people's opinions as our final authority on matters of faith, or our own? Or should we take the opinions of the so-called MOGs as the final authority on matters of faith?

Who do you take as the final authority on matters of faith?

Your opinion?

truthislight: Italio, your example is Good, but the incident in question took place befor the christian guide book the OT was written and it was those example and decission of this apostles that is the guide lines for christians today.

The OT covers all expects of a christians life that is necessary for his salvation.

"The things that were written affore times were written for our instructions"

So since you admit that Christians have been living Christian lives even before the NT was written, it means that one can live a good Christian life without the Bible. Yes or No?

At what point did the Bible then become, for you, the final authority on matters of faith? What year?

You said this example and decision is a guideline for Christians today? Are you sure you are following their example?

In Acts 15:1-31, you will see how the Apostles settled the dispute.

They called the first Church council and deliberated on the issue. Then Peter the head of the apostles declared his pronouncement and James confirmed it.

No argument, no reference to scripture, no individual interpretation of anything.

The Church hasn't changed till today. That is still how the Church settles doctrinal disputes and confusion. The last council was the Vatican II council. The Church is the Catholic Church.

truthislight: well, then. At the end we get according to our choices/decission.

Should we take it that you don't know who has the authority to judge who is interpreting the Bible correctly and who is doing it wrong?

Boomark: Your quotes above will not draw sympathy from us or confuse us @ all.

I am neither trying to draw sympathy nor confuse anybody. Jesus didn't do that. His body shouldn't either.

Boomark: Christians are not suppose to negotiate with or apologise to Satan in any way just as Our Lord Jesus Christ will not do. If you offer apology to satan, what will you do to God?

I agree. Even the Pope agrees.

Boomark: What you should have looked at is: Did he actually make that statement? Before you rush into painting him holy.

Please do not rush to conclusions. I am not painting him holy. I know he didn't say it but that does not mean that I am painting him holy... And you, have you tried to investigate if he actually said it or not? Maybe you should try by reading the whole story on the link that Horus posted. Then you will know who is trying to confuse you and draw sympathy. Who is holy and who is EVIL.

Boomark: Though i saw it in so many places online, but if the statement is not true, please let us not engage our selves in such ridicule.

Anti-Catholics will never stop. They will cook up another malicious lie very soon.

Now are these not enough scriptures for one Sunday mass? My people abeg help me judge o...

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@ OP,

You should start getting used to these anti-Catholics. They attack anything Catholic and see not a single good thing about the Church in its 2000 year history.

They would be praising Mother Teresa, if only she weren't Catholic. But unfortunately (for them)...

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Human beings will usually blame everything else but themselves.

"My parents did wrong." "My siblings did wrong." "The Catholic Church did wrong." "God did wrong."

Anything but "I DID WRONG."

PRIDE!

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Here are pictures of one of my recent bulletins. Can I hear that liar say that Catholics don't read scripture one more time?

"If they persecute me, they will persecute you"--Jesus Christ.

They called Christ himself the anti-christ:

"This man can force demons out of people only with the help of Beelzebul, the ruler of demons."--The Pharisees.

Expect nothing less to befall the Body of Christ.

...So which Church is the one true Church that Christ built, if it is not the Catholic Church?

Femmymata2: Who is the most criticized RELIGIOUS celebrity/figure or group on nairaland

...And an 'Atheist' says "Atheists".

Religious? Atheists? Hmm.

Artemisthe1st: Martin Luther the heretic said to his disciples "read the bible n the holy spirit will guide you without error".... The next day one of his disciples said to Martin Luther "sir, i read my bible n the holy spirit tells me you are wrong" .... Is it wise to for individuals to explain the bible in their own way.... A lot of ppl read the bible n give different explanations but can the spirit of truth tell a man one thing and another man another thing... when ppl ask me the question of which bible is the correct one or which church is the right one, i usually refer them to job chapter 8:8-10...
V8 look for a moment at ancient wisdom; consider the truths our ancestors (ancestors of christianity ie saints) learnt.
V9 our life is short we know nothing at all; we pass like shadows across the earth.
V10 but let the wise ancestors teach you; listen to what they had to say...

When you say "ancestors of Christianity," do you mean The Catholic Church?

@ Ogoamaka and Truthislight,

Very true, there was a confrontation on a doctrinal matter.

But how did they solve it?

Ogoamaka has been saying that each man should act according to his own opinion. Is that what Peter and Paul did? Did Peter go away and continue to live according to his opinion, while Paul went away living according to his own opinion?

Truthislight has been saying that we should look at what the Bible says (even though he hasn't been able to defend what he means by "what the Bible says". Is that what Paul and Peter did? Did Peter and Paul search the Bible and come to an agreement on what it says?

How exactly did they solve this problem?

Perhaps we should learn from this Biblical example of solving doctrinal matters, shouldn't we?

truthislight: which of the two goes freely from GENESIS to revelation without contradicting other bible portion?

To Enigma and some other people, "Jesus is God" is the proposition that goes freely from Genesis to Revelation without contradicting other Bible portions.

To you and some others, it is the 'Jesus is not God' proposition that does so.

truthislight: Which of the two contradicts other bible portions?

To Enigma and some others, "Jesus is not God" is the proposition that contradicts other Bible portions.

To you, it is the 'Jesus is God' proposition.

truthislight: From this analysis you arrived at the truth.

What truth can be arrived at from this confusing human opinions?

[quote author=truthislight]My stand is very simple:

Exodus 6:3 Yahweh = almighty God.

Isaiah 9:6 = Jesus mighty God. QED.

To you and some others, these verses show that Jesus is not God.

To Enigma and some others, the verses show that Jesus is God

Who then has the authority to tell us who's opinion or interpretation of what scripture says is true?

truthislight: If you Go begun that you are own you own.

Who are you to declare that I am on my own if I go beyond YOUR opinion. How do you know that in going beyond your opinion of what scripture says, God is not with me?

truthislight: this are why there is a deviation from the .

Our "own opinion" and not what the bible says.

Let me give an example. Enigma believes the Bible says Jesus is God. You believe the Bible says Jesus is not God. So which one is what the Bible actually says? Should we just take your own fallible opinion to be what the Bible says because your name is "Truthislight?"

truthislight: christianity is not based on our opinion but on what the bible says.

It is not a family BUSINESS scheme.

You mean what YOU THINK the Bible says - which is YOUR OPINION.

Afterall, you can possibly be wrong on what the Bible actually says, or can you not? Are you INFALLIBLE?

truthislight: any understanding that contradict other parts of bible is not a bible based knowledge and as such should be discarded.

God cannot contradict himself.

What if you THINK that my understanding contradicts other parts of the Bible and it should be discarded, but I THINK that my understanding doesn't contradict those parts of the Bible and should not discard it... What should we do? Should we still go ahead and discard it, ONLY because YOU say so? Do you have that authority?

truthislight: the bible explain it self.

But the Bible's 'explanation' differs from one man to another, and it is mainly due to each man's reasoning.

If you think that the Bible is explaining sometthing to be white and I feel that it is explaining that same thing to be black, who has the authority to judge who is right among us? Is it you?

ogoamaka99: IF WE UNDERSTAND THAT, THINGS WILL BE BETTER. But our problem is that we take our opinion to be the best, the only correct opinion. We sees any opinion that differ from ours as dunce. Let respect one anthers opinion

Yes. We should RESPECT one-another's opinions, but should we ACCEPT them and live our Christian lives by them? Or should we respect them and still hold on to our own opinions and live our lives by them?

onetrack: Give me a clear, straightforward verse that says that m@sturbation is a sin. If it is clearly a sin then the Bible should spell it out in clear language.

Give me a clear, straightforward verse that says that if it is clearly a sin then the Bible should spell it out in clear language.

We are not discussing what's interesting and what's not. We are discussing what's sin and what's not.

truthislight: infact the the fed they fed fed us really fed our stomach that you begin to wander if they have all come out.

infact the the fed they fed fed us really fed our stomach that you begin to wander if they have all come out.

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Thank you for the joke. Its so funny.

What stage of development was Africa before Christianity and Islam came to Africa?

Christianity and Islam are not Africa's problem.

If you think that you know God's teaching more than the Catholic Church; they are in falsehood and you are in the truth; They are teaching the doctrine of men and you are teaching the doctrine of God...

Then its okay, thank you.

For now, focus on the topic of this thread.

It is better for my soul if I do not to talk to you.

plappville: No church seem to be practicing the perfect doctrine of Christ.

What does this mean? Does it mean that all "churches" are practising imperfect doctrine of Christ?

But Christ has no imperfect doctrine. Christ's doctrine is perfect. So if you are not following the perfect doctrine of Christ, then you are following the doctrine of man or of the devil.

So who is following Christ's perfect doctrine in this world, Plappville?

Please tell me.

All sex and sexual acts are to be chaneled towards procreation and the mutual self-giving of each married partner to the other. Any sexual acts outside this is a SIN. Masturbation inclusive.

plappville: I didn't know you can be this friendly

Perhaps because you weren't paying enough attention. You were too busy with your hatred for anything Catholic.

You hate us so much that you think nothing good can come out of 'Nazareth'... But alas!..