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Of course, China will speak out against sanctions as it is also a victim of many sanctions.

But what Putin really needs from China is an outright declaration of support.
Unfortunately for Putin, China has always been opposed to invading sovereign countries under any pretence.
It cannot back the invasion without destroying its long held anti-invasion stand.

okay.

uzoma213:
Some people here were saying that Kyiv would fall by Sunday, I just dey laugh.

It's Sunday now and the Russians have not taken over any major city, Ukrainians are still holding strong and with more military supplies coming from Germany for support.

My concern now is the fact that the Polish people abi Ukrainians at the border are being racist against blacks

Why is the Nigerian ambassador to Poland and Ukraine doing nothing?

Data sourced from published reports in the media has shown that between January 2021 and January 2022, not less than 300 persons were shot dead by trigger-happy operatives of our security forces.

I am very interested in the details and circumstances of these 300 deaths.
Daily Trust can do better.

jesmond3945:
if russia attacks nato or america, just know world war 3 has started. A war of nuclear weapons.

There would be no nuclear war regardless.

jesmond3945:
nato bombed yugoslavia for 78 days because they are doing the same thing ukraine is doing today. This war is between nato and russia. Both sides would rather use small countries as pawns.

The issue right now is Russia invading Ukraine.
Try to stay on topic.

aribisala0:
Why is RT not a credible source and which source would you consider credible CNN or BBC?

The issue of agreement is a moot point it really does not matter so do not make it into more than it is
I think we agree there is no legal agreement

The phantom agreement is not moot if that is what 100% of Putin admirers are regurgitating as the justification for this war.

Russia's position is they believe there was a gentleman's agreement. If there was none then they will make one now BY FORCE
That is how the world has always worked

The world worked with slavery for millennias, that was never a reason to excuse or continue it.

The crises started when the legitimate government in Ukraine was overthrown in 2014 and a new government installed.

A legitimate government is whoever is sitting in the government house and maybe gain most
recognition.
Even bloody military coupist are legitimate by default barring special political realities.
The Arab spring ousted several "legitimate" leaders such as Hosni Mubarak and Zine El Abidine Ben Ali but that doesn't mean the nations have to stand still for them. A nation is bigger than any leader or ruler in charge.
But no country is under obligation to accept the new person.

The Eastern part of the country rejected the change and hostilities commence which continue till today. That is how the so called Minsk Agreement came about.
Your characterization of Putin ignoring the Minsa agreement is not one I recognize. Both parties are not adhering to it and that is always the case where there is war.

No one forced Putin to approve the "so-called" Mink agreement.
And a fact about agreements is that it is as good as the sincerity of the parties involved.

There is a legitimate government in Venezuela but the US and its allies decided to recognize an insurgent and seize government assets my point? Do no be a hypocrite Putin is acting with teh same impunity that the US has always used

It is funny that you are comparing invasion with recognition and asset freeze.
I consider non-recognition and sanctions as a right of any sovereign country.

The US and its allies have the right and freedom to recognize whoever they want.
Had Putin set up a parallel government and installed the ousted president as legitimate, most people
won't even care more than murmur for a few days.

In fact, if he had invaded and set up a buffer zone to "protect" his tribesmen and stop at that,
it would have even been understandable. But he wants the whole country under his rule because
according to the "history" he recently recite, he doesn't think Ukraine is a real country.

But he had a big problem, unlike Eastern Ukraine with substantial rebels, his
mercenaries and plain cloth soldiers cannot take over the rest of the country who obviously
aren't pro-Russia. So he was forced to conventional war.

Unlike many of you, my stand on invasions are uniform, it is wrong and condemnable and will continue to be regardless
of the parties involved.

sunboy:
First, There was no Germany. There was East Germany and West Germany.

2nd, you just want to argue baselessly… if you can read I’m not about to do that for you. Have a good day!

I know you will run away like others who repeat what they read without serious consideration.
Stop regurgitating ludicrous claims just because Putin say so, it is irritating.

aribisala0:
It is not fictional there have been videos shown on RT where verbal assurances were given. Yes we can argue they have no legal force. But the reality of international relatins is that if agreements do not favour the powerful they are re written AT GUN POINT

RT is not a credible source on this issue.
That said, vague verbal assurances are not agreements so nothing to rewrite in this case. In fact, they mean nothing.

It is good that you acknowledge that even real agreements properly signed, witnessed and documented can
be ignored as Putin did with the Minsk agreement. Isn't it therefore idiotic of Putin to use an unclear statement
as an everlasting legally binding agreement?

But I have been waiting a long time for an evidence of an agreement where NATO promised RUSSIA not to accept
any country on a forbidden list should they apply.

NATO issue is even by the way as this crises started with Ukraine's pro-EU move.
Perhaps the "agreement" also banned future membership of any European organization
to any country that has ever been subjected to Soviet's rule.

sunboy:
You have absolute no idea. Lots of credible websites covered it, I am not about to paste web links for you… if you don’t know you don’t argue.

Websites?
I didn't know that internet was live in 1989.

Even NATO officials did not deny such agreements… they only said “ the pledge was about Germany not the whole of Europe” the agreement was made when the Berlin wall fell. East Germany was Soviet alligned, and West was already part of the alliance. The Soviet allowed the reunified Germany to join the alliance on the pledge that nato won’t go further East.
While Russians are saying the pledge was to cover all of Eastern Europe.

One of you should surprise me with facts.

NATO/US are saying NO, it was a discussion exclusively about Germany.

How can it be exclusively about Germany, when Germany was already a member of NATO at the time of reunification?

So, nobody denied such agreement like you insinuated. Both sides just have a difference context of the agreement. Who’s lying about the context is the question at hand not about if such pledge existed or not.

Actually, nobody except Putin and his admirers accept such a ridiculous story.

HausaIgboYoruba:
Ode, USA invaded and killed more than one millionaire Iraqis and nothing happened!

At least one of you Putin urchins should prove me wrong.
Show some intelligence no matter how little.

sunboy:
There was an agreement as a follow up on the fall of Berlin Wall and the reunification of Germany. Read your history, it’s okay if you don’t know.

You obviously know nothing about history, government or even business deals.
Agreement has specific legal meanings.

Russia says few days ago that it is not invading Ukraine, it will be foolish
for someone to conclude that Russia had an agreement not to invade Ukraine.
This is for a factual event.

Imagine using a fictional story created by Putin as the legality of an agreement?

I may be wrong though.
Just post the agreement and its details.

American President Joe Biden claimed the Russian attack is “unprovoked”. What is his deploying American troops to the region, especially Poland, if not provocation? The United States would not have allowed Chinese troops pouring into Mexico or Russia setting up missiles in Cuba; so how does it expect Russia to lie back as it is being surrounded by hostile NATO troops?

Wait, America deployed troops to Poland who is a member of NATO
and Russia decided to invade Ukraine after lying for weeks?

Why not attack America or Poland the alleged offender?

I am yet to see any intelligent or even rational defender of Putin in this war of aggression.

mokoh:
Hope you know Russia supply 40%of energy to Europe

Hope you know that Europe is responsible for 50% of all Russia's exports.

Quality20:
In the 60s The US attacked and invaded Cuba just because the defunct USSR was planning to make Cuba a military base , So now the US should not see it as wrong for Russia invading Ukraine as she plans to admit the country into NATO.

Go read a better history book.
The US never invaded Cuba because of the USSR.
It supported some rebels against the Castro government in a totally different
scenario in its broader anti-communist campaigns.

Nordstream 2 is not operational yet.
Europe have survived worse than they can ever face in the future.
And it will only last for a while before Russia is completely replaced.

But what may happen after is what Putin fear the most.

Kingsnairaland:
Till 1990: NATO had 16 members
1991: Collapse of the USSR
Russia: Don't expand further
America: Okay we will not expand (verbally,
not written)
1999: Poland, Hungary and Czech republic joined NATO
Russia: But you said you won't expand!
America: Where is the written document, so Jack off!
2004: Bulgaria, Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania,
Romania, Slovakia and Slovenia joined NATO
Russia: But you said you won't expand!
America: Where is the written document, so jack off
2009: Albania and Croatia joined NATO
Russia: But you said you won't expand!
America: Where is the written document, so jack off
2014: CIA funded Coup de ta to overthrow the legal government of Ukraine and install a Pro Western US puppet government
2017: Montenegro and North Macedonia joined NATO
Russia: But you said you won't expand!
America: Where is the written document, so jack off
2021: US proposal for Bosnia and Herzegovina, Georgia and


Ukraine to join NATO
Russia: Enough is enough, you are betraying us ever since 1990s, if we allow you, you will deploy missiles on our borders.
Western World: Russia is so aggressive, they are evil, they don't think about humanity, Russia is expanding. Putin is being unreasonable......
Hypocrite Western world!!!!!
Imagine if Canada and Mexico joined a military alliance with Russia and deployed missiles on its borders?! The US will declare war for own security.
Where was the West and the so called free world’s morality for what the US did to
secular regimes in Iraq, Afganistan ,Libya?
They turned a blind eye and destroyed these Middle Eastern countries all the while funding terrorism and supporting Wahabbi Extremist theocracies in Saudi Arabia and the gulf states which sponsor terrorists around the world.
This is not the 1980’s
People have eye and ears, the world has had enough of Western imperialism and Unipolar control over the rest of the world.
It’s about time the Western Hemisphere wakes up from its colonial wet dream of controlling the world and dictating who can and cannot be free.
Russia �� & China �� along with rest of the world should come together to form a balance of power to create a Multipolar World.
Russia have every right to defend themselves.
May God Bless Russia & Vladimir Putin.(Ameen)

Stop posting lies.
There was no agreement between Russia and the west.
Only a fool would have agreed to such at the height of its power and enemy at its news.

Fake news.
It was Ukrainian prospective deal with EU that actually started the conflict way back in 2014.
NATO membership normally takes years to ratify.

Esseite:
Dont push Putin too far to the wall, all of these sanctions he definitely had envisioned.. he would be seeking alternatives to the sanctions in neutral nations, mostly the middle east and enemies of my enemies. The moment he is able to breath, he becomes independent of your sanctions without fear of repercussions while going head on. Thereby, the world would have formed another Hitler this time with nations on common interest with it's own hands.

Putin can never be independent of sanction and neither are there neutral countries in
the middle east.
This is Russia not North Korea where the citizens are more or less slaves
and are content with just living.

It is in Putin's best interest to shorten the conflict.

Omooba77:
Most of them know the truth, but use lies to deceive unsuspecting populace.....

What is the lie?
That the train service is not subsidised or not cheap?

juman:
President of france is considered more brilliant than this.
You cannot seize ship loaded cargo like this.
Its condemned.

Actually, a country can divert any cargo for inspection or even seizure of content.

If putin act back, the whole world economy would be shaking.

Do you even know how the world economy works?
Russia's only strong point which is also the mainstay of its economy is its
oil and gas exports to Europe but from history oil and gas sellers prefers selling than not.

hmm

Tales by moonlight.
Your imaginary cough is even more laughable.

No spirit is after you. You are simply addicted to gambling and get rich quick scheme.

It is probably too late.
This should have been done weeks ago.

Okay.

Mooh247:
North Atlantic Treaty Organisation.. NATO

Question is wetin won carry us go North Atlantic in the first place

North Atlantic is just a name.

Why not post the full news?
Russia ships are legally allowed to return to base according to international law.
Erdogan was just following the law.

MERCHANDISER:
Since USA won't allow China or Russia to have Military base in
Canada,Mexico,why will Russia or China allow USA to do so in
Ukraine and Taiwan ?

You are ignorant.
Did Mexico or Canada request Russia or China military bases?
If Canada or Mexico wants Russian or Chinese bases, the US can do nothing than sanction.

buckeyemedia:
British Palestine, so called Israel is a creation of Europe & America that European refugees were sent to after the Second World War.

How come Israel is the only Oyibo nation in the Middle East?

There was no Nigeria before 1914.
And Putin just created 2 countries few days ago.
You are confusing national recognition with ownership.

SarkinYarki:
What is his motive against the world ? He is the one in his country and the US is trying to use NATO to expand into his territory yet he is the problem

So Ukraine is his country and territory?

babablogger:
He’s right the land they currently occupy was given to them by Palestine, seems you read your bible too much and forget history ��

How can palestine give out a land it doesn't own?
When did this gifting take place?