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Mandesz:
When it's church issues una go raise muscles. The OP new that's the only way it can gain the unwarranted attentions is thru church shortcomings.
Is Op a pastor, an RCCG worker, or a pastor child?

When an issue from the church arise, una go raise eyebrows like say you're a good person from home. Na lie!
Even a Muslim go join mouth but in their religion they'll call it a blasphemy.

So OP has to be a pastor, RCCG worker, pastor child etc, before he/she can speak out about injustice?
Whoa! Many christians are really the scums of the earth

MaxInDHouse:
Your problem is stupidity!

Nobody wants uninvited visits most especially when they don't know it's importance so it's the visitor who will use his discretion to keep calling just as you're madly throwing tantrums here simply because you feel the beliefs of your neighbour is affecting you!

Newsflash! No one cares about you folks. Suck it up

Michael547:
Lol you are funny....you said that only people in governments have the right to determine to all humans on earth the standard of what is good and bad.
So why are you not agreeing that everyone on earth who is against the laws and policies of any government in the world is wrong and that all governments in the world is right?

Again, if you have refused to check what Utopian is, then I have better things to do. Thank you

Michael547:
Whether I want chaos or not is not the bone of contention here. You must also know that some people strongly believe that the path to human freedom involves causing chaos and protest against the government.


So How do you determine whether the standard of some governments are right if you've already agreed that only the people in governments have the right to determine for all humans on earth what is good and bad?
Are you also saying that only democratic governments have the right to determine to people what is good and bad?

U keep on asking questions I have already answered, time and time again.
I clearly told you we don't live in an utopian world. Please if you don't know what it is use Google!
Damn

MaxInDHouse:
See foolishness!

You're engaging people you can't see on faceless social media but condemning others who choose to visit people they can see face to face in their neighbourhood!

… and I told you most of those people don't care about your visits, and u r still yapping. U dey ment?

MaxInDHouse:
This shows you're the retarded one here because you're really disturbed about the beliefs of your neighbours yet you're crying as if it's wrong to sit down and discuss it while you've spent years on this forum arguing over what your neighbours believe!

Unfortunately my neighbors beliefs affect me. That's why I have to argue and make them see reason. If its just not affecting, I wont bother

Iamanoited:
GOD IS ALWAYS A STRATEGIC PLANNER AND CONTROLLER. GOD KNEW EVERYTHING BEFORE IT HAPPENED.

I asked you a question which you conveniently dodged. Why are you dodging ?

Michael547:
So it therefore means that you do not agree with people all over the world who protests against governmental laws and policies. It also means that you agree that whatever laws and actions taken by people in government all over the world is always right.
Do you agree?

We don't live in an utopian world. Not every government is democratic and not every individual is sane. There has to be a compromise but unfortunately there’s none. Some of the governments are right and some people are right. If we allow people to do as they wish, the world would descend into a chaos. Do you really want that?

Michael547:
So if you are saying that the people in the government has the right to determine for everyone on earth the standards of what is good and bad, it therefore means that whatever laws the government makes should be followed by all humans on earth without opposition. Yes or no sir?

Yes

Michael547:
Again I ask you. Who has the right to determine for all humans on earth about the standard of what is good and what is bad? Let's start from there.

The government

MaxInDHouse:
Who is retarded between someone who chose to pay uninvited visit to his neighbours so there could be interchange of ideas and someone who keeps his ideas all to himself only to resort to violence when there's a clash in opinion?

Ọmọ you can never ever be wiser than real disciples of Christ!

So what if the neighbor isn't interested in your stupid ideas?

Michael547:
Whether an opinion is harmful to others or not does not change the fact that people have the right to decide for themselves what is good or bad. So they have every right to their opinion and I should respect that Even though I may not entertain their opinionated actions towards me.

Are you aware that as much as that is fine it has its drawback and that is anarchy: if people are allowed to think murder, lying etc are fine, they can actually commit it and you Michael547 may be a victim of it.
So no, as long as freedom of speech and expression is fine, they need to be caged. Look at what is happening on social media today. Nairaland for example, you see religious folks threaten others with physical violence which is allowed by their religion. If they meet those folks, they can cause bodily harm.
DTruthSpeaker is a prime example. Probably that’s why he was banned

MaxInDHouse:
I have told you this several times but for the benefit of other followers i will repeat it again.

Peaceful doesn't mean restraining order not to fight rather it goes beyond that as members go to meet neighbours in their homes to teach them why this is the best thing to do! Matthew 28:19-20

So in your warped retarded mind, being peaceful includes disturbing the peace and quiet of neighbors?
Whoa! I love chatting with JWs. U guys show me the extent of human psychosis

MaxInDHouse:
Do you know any ORGANIZED people among whom there is no such thing?
I never said there is no such thing happening among JWs but your presentation was biased so i kept trashing it to see how far you can stand your own fallacy.
The truth is Jehovah's Witnesses organization is the most decent and peace loving group ever so when enemies of truth like you see any loophole you want to exaggerate it as if such a thing doesn't occur elsewhere.
The purpose of Christianity isn't about making imperfect individuals to become perfect in this system of things rather it is to gather faithful and obedient ones throughout the earth and start preparing them for the bright future when God will remove wickedness completely.
So out of all religious organizations ever formed on this planet only Jehovah's Witnesses are WORKING towards that goal but that doesn't mean you won't find people who are still struggling with their own individual traits among them. One thing God wants now is OBEDIENCE afterwards each person will start working on his or her own flaws to meet up with what lies ahead which is a perfect world.
But since you're a hopeless atheist you just want to discard it all by making it sound as if nothing can work that's why i too decided to play along so you can hug a transformer.
I told you such stories aren't true as they are exaggerating it otherwise such acts supposed to be rampant among them here too!

So how did u know JWs are the most peaceful, loving blah blah people on earth? Did you do the research?

Michael547:
Fine....my point is, there is no universal standard of good and bad. What you see as good can be bad ro some people. No human has the right to determine for everyone what is good and bad. It's all about personal opinions.

Ok. Noted. So can you allow people to hold personal opinions which are harmful to others?

MaxInDHouse:
Now you're ready to reason!
I don't know them in person.
So you can't quantify all members of the group as child molesters simply because of stories you read about some of them in UK and US, if 50% of members over there are into the act there's no way such won't be rampant here as well since they're the ones who brought it here.
Arabs brought Islam to Africa and other parts of the world and Arabs are intolerant that's why intolerance is their trademark everywhere the religion is allowed so if child molestation is the logo of JWs surely it should be rampant here as it's the people there that brought it here!

I presume u did English language in school. But since the educational prerequisites for being a JW is illiteracy, I'll have to educate u
I never said all JW are molest.ers. Its not even possible. I said some of your members engage in those acts, and you jumped in and said they are all lies. Now u r backtracking and saying that since i claimed there are molester JWs in the US and since they brought JW into Nigeria then there should be molesters in Nigeria. Are you aware many child molestation cases are not even reported? I come across them in my line of work, and our police don't even help matters.
Also those stories are true. And for the last time, read them. The culprits actually confess to them. But your poor education wouldn't allow you to read that the part they confessed, instead u dismissed them as false cos they came from ex-JW. Also did this your mentally retarded brain ask u why they became ex-JWs in the first place? No
Idiota

Michael547:
I never said there was a country where murder is legal...governments makes laws in every country. But not everyone agrees with governmental laws.
So my question is, how do you know that everyone sees murder as evil?

Not everyone agrees on that. So what's your point

MaxInDHouse:
He wants to use reasonableness to tackle faith unknowingly to him that true faith gave birth to reasonableness.
Joe Biden and Michael Jackson are people i only see on TV or read about them in papers or social media i had no one on one encounter with any of them unlike Jehovah's Witnesses who has been coming to my house since my early 20s today i'm in my late 50s so if i am arguing about what i know regarding the JWs surely i'm talking about what no one can use stories found on pages of books, TV shows or social media to convince me otherwise!

What about the JWs that don't come to your house. Especially the ones living thousands of miles away in the US. Do you know them?

Iamanoited:
GOD KNEW EVERYTHING. HE PLANNED IT ALL.
LUCIFER BEFORE JESUS WAS AN EXAMPLE.

So he planned it all, including planning for man to fail? Cool. Thanks for clearing my doubts about Yahweh. Now I know better

Aemmyjah:
You have seen how Jaephoenix IQ works
That's his own logic

Of course u would back ur child mole.sting bro. Do u know your brethren in the UK or US?

MaxInDHouse:
It's really amazing how low the level of your IQ.

Joe Biden and Michael Jackson both of them please if i disagree with anyone regarding what you said about them what has that got to do with my existence?

Ọmọ use your brain.
You and i are arguing about the most decent and peaceful organization in the world only for you to continue insisting they are child molesters which i totally disagree with because i know them and i have dealings with them here in my neighbourhood.

So mentioning Joe Biden or Michael Jackson is of no relevance here as i have no business with any of them!

Do u also know the JWs in the UK and US? Please don't dodge this question

Michael547:
How do you come to the conclusion that everyone on earth see murder as evil?

Can u tell me just one country where murder is legal? Just one? And please don't dodge this question

mekuso89:
Why can’t atheists just accept the fact that there’s a living God up there that sees everything they do?

Here's a good meme for you to ponder your own question

Why can’t christians just accept the fact that there’s a living Flying Spaghetti Monster up there that sees everything they do?
Why?

CuriousCart:
I already mean the same.
Chimp/monkey/ape. Whichever you prefer.

These 3 animals are different

CuriousCart:
Please read until the end to make meaning of my write up. I'm going to apply both scientific and biblical references and use relatable terms for better understanding.


Here's how I see it:

Human beings were created by beings from another world who had a leader/project manager (God).

These beings were not of this world. They possibly stumbled upon life on Earth while exploring and were obviously fascinated by the animals they met (no humans yet).

These beings of superior intelligence decided to experiment with the life they met on Earth by mixing their genes with chimpanzees (who happened to be the closest animal in semblance to them). So science is somewhat correct to state that homo sapiens are relatively new and evolved from chimpanzees. They just don't know the full details.

Out of this experiment they created Man who looked and behaved like them but he was primitive (Blacks). They created Man to act as their servant/labourer/assistant in taking care of the Earth they discovered for them. Think of it like a Bigman and his gateman or driver. They do not hate you but the gulf in class will be maintained.

Later on, some of these beings began to lust after the Man they created and eventually had sex with Man to produce further mutated offsprings. This is not too difficult to imagine because while Mankind were of inferior stock some must definitely have enticing features that appealed to the creators. The product of this union is mentioned in the Bible.

After this, their leader (God) decided to leave Earth since his original project had been tampered with but not before kicking out the erring members out of their spaceship (Heaven) into Earth (Hell without his supervision). These exiled beings rallied around a leader (Satan) and decided to make sure they destroyed their former leader's most revered project (Mankind) in petty retaliation. Like when your spoilt child pours away the pot of soup because you disciplined him.

I will explain the previous paragraph better:
Before the betrayal, God and his beings could come down here on Earth physically to live and give instructions to Man (like in the Bible). They could come down sometimes to solve problems with their superior technology (miracles) when summoned. Man also had a longer age limit since he was created with their DNA. But after the abomination, God decided to wipe out all of that anomaly with a flood. This flood did not cover the whole world as the Bible mentioned but just the inhabited parts.

The flood lasted longer than 40 days. It lasted many years and the ark people multiplied within it.

Some people survived the flood without being inside the ark.


These non-ark survivors migrated to Europe and Asia away from the flood and evolved over many years while the flood people were holed up in their ark. They explored and developed skills to survive on their own instead of waiting for their creators to save them as used to be the case then.

These survivors are the Whites of today.
Their skin whitened because they moved high up into the mountains and away from sunlight/sky to avoid the flood.

This is why the White's mentality is distinct from the Black's who still have the saviour gene in him. The Blacks are only just learning to survive on their own and still lag behind Whites whose ancestors managed to figure out a way during the flood.


This is also why Whites enslave Blacks throughout history because their genes still carry the original creator+creation DNA that God tried to wipe out. The ark survivors were chosen because they had the original lab experiment intact without sexual intercourse with the creator beings.

Now, through centuries of mixed race intercourse, almost everyone in the world will carry the creator/created DNA that God opposed.

That is the Mark of the Beast.

When all of Mankind finally have it, the leader of the exiled beings (Satan) plans to wage war (Armageddon) with his former boss (God) since his own project has overshadowed his boss' own.



Ask me any questions.


OAM4J nlfpmod Seun

I didn’t read all your story. But humans didn’t descend from chimps. We have a common ancestor, the Great Ape

UNNGRADUATEEE:
done what?

The research

Michael547:
Good for accepting your personal opinion.
Now do you think that what is legally good or bad is accepted by everyone to be good or bad?

At the beginning of this long-drawn and tiring discourse, I told you morals or relative. What may be morally good now or in Nigeria, may be bad in Afghanistan, or even in bad in the same Nigeria
But I can see u have a poor memory, or u just wanna be mischievous
I also told you the only universally accepted evil is murder, and a few others

MaxInDHouse:
I never molested a child and those i know in my neighborhood never molest kids so you can't come here to label the organization as child molesters that's what i will never ever agree with you unless you present a child molester among them here in my own community!

So u r now restricting your population of JW to 'those in your neighborhood' and have excluded those ones in the US and other parts of the world, as if they are not JWs? Lol 😆
This is getting funnier.
Make una dey see how these JW scums are

MaxInDHouse:
What has this man done for me?
What does his existence or position have to do with me here in my own community?

I am talking about people who love their neighbours so much to the extent of paying us friendly visits without invitation and despite the hostility most neighbours showed they're not relenting rather they're going about helping people to love people!

So if you want to say anything against them then think about people like me who has been a benefactor of their fine works in the society instead of telling me that members of this same group are evil simply because of stories you read in books or social media!

Oga, anyone following this thread would by now know how dishonest u r.
U believe Biden is the president of the US even though u r not an eye witness to that. U believe Michael Jackson is dead even though u r not an eye witness . But u don't believe JW can mole.st JW or non JW kids cos u r not an eye witness. Lol 😆
Talk about clever by half. Of course u cant deceive anyone by that

Michael547:
Lol.....any answer I give to you is my personal opinion. Do you agree that your views on what is good and bad is your personal opinion? Yes or no sir?

Good. Now I still told you there are universally accepted laws. Of which murder is one of them. I also said killings during wars are universally agreed to be legal. Even if I say war killings are good or bad, its my personal opinion.
What is confusing there?

UNNGRADUATEEE:
I actually asked to do a research on it and use it as a case study.

So have you done it

MaxInDHouse:
You're just deceiving yourself!

Throughout the world there is no group of humans where you won't find a child molester but claiming it's what a group does on regular basis is the lie i will never accept from you most especially when you can't present any member of that group practicing it in our own community here!

That's not the point here. U were previously claiming u guys never mole.st anyone