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Jashub:
Who has proven it?

Scientists and historians
Maybe you need to read other materials apart from your babble

Jashub:
Oga, humans dont even undertand this universe so how can you understand the God who created it...?

And how do I know He loves me ..?, it's because He sent His Son to die for me , He gives me food even when I dont merit it , He sustains me even when I'm ungrateful....they are too much to mention

1. Going by your analogy, he loves some people more than others cos they have more food, health etc
2. Do you have evidence of this god?

Jashub:
Scientist now agree that the universe had a beginning. Even Dawkins admitted this before he died. But God has no beginning because he is outside the boundaries of space, time and matter .


As for religion killing people, blame that on the followers not the authors of the religion .

And by the way, Stalin and Mao killed more people than religion ever did . That's why atheism and lack of religion safer than no religion at all

1. No sir. No scientist has agreed the universe has a beginning. What they agree on is the big bang and they don't know much prior to that. And Dawkins never said the universe had a beginning. He believed it may have created itself
2. Stalin and Mao were not mass murderers. U forgot Hitler, a christian murdered more people than anyone, even jews. Also u forgot the religious wars that murdered millions, from the Great Crusades, Huguenot wars, Salem and European witch trials, Jihad wars etc. Also your all loving god drowned the whole world. So dont tell me anything that atheists did
I realized u don't know anything but choose to put out incorrect information. I suggest u read before engaging me
Thank you

StillDtruth:
You never see where 2 brown parents born yellow pikin and very very black pikin?

Dont think its possible. And even if its possible, when those offsprings procreate they revert to the race of their parents

Jashub:
Prove it's a fairytale

All the events in the Bible has been proven to be fairy tales. There was no flood, Tower of Babel, Garden of Eden, ark, Israel weren't enslaved by Egypt

Jashub:
With God , nothing is suppose to make sense. Which is why He is God; He knows better .

So lemme get, so u don't understand god?
So why do you think he loves you?

chatinent:
Dey play.

And what about the different races in the world today...if it is true that only Noah and his family survived?

Its not scientifically possible for everyone in the world to come from the same parents. Its called in-breeding and even if its possible everyone would die of diseases before adulthood

StillDtruth:
Man and lion stayed together as babies and snakes and other dangerous animals have stayed together in a house, so.you are talking nonsense as you.usually do

So lions were eating grass? Lol

chatinent:
Only except if it's a fairytale... Cos Noah's story doesn't add up. How did a lion and goat remain in the ark? How many species of lions were brought? If only Noah and his family survived, what's with the different races?

U forgot to ask how all the animals found all over the world found out the exact location of the ark. Also there was no historical or scientific evidence of the flood

MaxInDHouse:
Going by the actions of the Bible God all babies are His enemies that's why He gives no provisions when He's about to destroy their parents in His wrath.
But Israelite children supposed to be His friends.
WHY?
Because His law says:

“Listen, O Israel: Jehovah our God is one Jehovah. You must love Jehovah your God with all your heart and all your soul and all your strength. These words that I am commanding you today must be on your heart, and you must inculcate them in your sons and speak of them when you sit in your house and when you walk on the road and when you lie down and when you get up. Tie them as a reminder on your hand, and they must be like a headband on your forehead. Write them on the doorposts of your house and on your gates. Deuteronomy 6:4-9

With the above any child that's able to talk in the whole land of Israel must be an obedient worshiper of this God and having deep respect for His prophets failure to do this makes them like all other children of pagans who are God's enemies and worse still these are children born to Israelite parents who supposed to TEACH their children the laws of their God.

So killing those children wasn't a punishment for those kids rather it's a punishment for their parents who must mourn the death of the children they failed to TEACH the laws of their God.

When Jesus walked the earth something similar happened Jesus never prayed with or for anyone until he has been satisfied with the positive response of his disciples who were ever ready to welcome the message he brought to them {John 17:8-9} but the case is the reverse when children came to Jesus and were willing to listen to him as a prophet of God Jesus couldn't hold himself against this ones he gave them his BLESSINGS he must have recalled how some children of Israelites treated a prophet of God with disrespect these ones must have been taught by their parents how to honour God's prophet so unlike adults whom Jesus withheld his blessings from until they began practicing what he taught them Jesus blessed those children without delay! Mark 10:13-16

From your very first sentence, I knew u are a psycho.
By the way, I thought ur god doesn't visit the sins of the fathers on the children, and that he's a just god? What happened

StillDtruth:
Did Elisha beat them? No.

And we all see that you are lying especially as you dodged the part where i said you would wish them evil and curse them from the bottom of your heart. So you have already answered the question.

I suggest u start reading ur babble, psycho.


23 Elisha went from that city to Bethel. He was walking up the hill to the city, and some little children were coming down out of the city. They began making fun of him. They said, “Go away, you bald-headed man! Go away, you bald-headed man!”

24 Elisha looked back and saw them. He cursed them. Then two bears came out of the forest and attacked the boys. There were 42 boys ripped apart by the bears.
From the above, Elisha clearly cursed the children. He doesn't beat them. In fact if he had beat them, it would have been better, they wouldn't have died. But he cursed them and Yahweh finished the curse. He could have punished them, but no, he had to analive every one of them, not even minding the fact they are kids.

And no, I won't curse kids from my heart. I'll just look and them and wave it off. Why would I bother what kids say to me?

Jashub:
Oga, when you read the bible, you'll see that not every act of God sounds reasonable . Example : David killed another man for his wife and even made an unholy census, yet he is called " A man after God's heart ".

And God even went further to send the messiah(Jesus ) through his lineage. Now compare him to Moses whose only offense was striking a rock instead of speaking to it , yet God chose to let him die outside the promise land and he didn't even get to have his lineage hold any messianic role.

Which goes to show that God does as He pleases ...and it is random . After all, are there not people who serve God in truth and are still afflicted ...where is the reasons in that?

Is he omnibenevolent?

Jashub:
You're so used to thinking linearly that you fail to understand that God is not created like us. It's like saying , where is the starting point on a ball. A ball has no starting point ...neither does it have an end. The same concept applies to God: He has no beginning and no ending.


As for change of location , that's God's way of removing wickedness from this world

So if your god can have no beginning or end, why can't the universe have no beginning or end?
So if some kids taunt you, u can comfortably analive them? Really?
Religion has turned folks into zombies and murderers

StillDtruth:
Do you not see that they chanted it while folowing him?

Look at how you already feel when those almajiri childre suddenly swarm upon you on the street. Now, imagine how it would be when they swarm you with your 1/4 leg and start chanting and following you singing,

"one quarter leg doctor go away, .eh!
one quarter leg doctor go away eh!
one quarter leg doctor go away, chomo
one quarter leg doctor go away, nisho
one quarter leg doctor go away,ske ske,
one quarter leg doctor go away ...

Tell me whether you wont wish them every evil thing you can muster and curse them from the bottom of your heart and with your soul and life?

Lol. Call me anything you want, whether by kids, or adult, I would not beat or unalive anyone. Why? Its not moral. And I have kindness. And I'm more moral than your god

Jashub:
Oga, rest . Why would I question God ....you and I know both know that all of existence was created by someone or something that's far more intelligent , superior and omniscient than we will ever be .

Secondly , what you call death is your own shallow interpretation.


To God , men don't really die ...they just change location. So the kids who were killed were just taken off this world , it's not that they cease to exist.

So who created this most intelligent and complex god?
So would you allow me to 'change the location' of you and your kids?
So

Jashub:
Your opinion doesn't change the fact that He's still God and He will judge you

Is that all u have to say to defend his wickedness? Whoa. Christians are terrible

StillDtruth:
These children are the True meaning of the words little devils, little demons, little imps.

Just because they said Elisha is bald? Ok. If a kid calls you bald today, please kill him

Jashub:
Dumb question. You are crying about 42 kids . What about Noah's generation where there were over a thousand kids with women and children who perished in a flood . Most of those kids would be infants and babies who don't know the difference between right and wrong . Yet they were killed.

Which goes to show , that God does as He pleases and we can't question it because He is our Maker...He can take and He give life whenever and wherever He wishes

It also shows Yahweh is a wicked and terrible god, and is not omnibenevolent

KnownUnknown:
Spirits are not only intangible, they are also non physical and invincible.

The Holy Spirit is also non physical except for the physical dick it used to fvck Mary. So if you ever meet the Holy Spirit, all you’d see is a floating BBC.

That would make it desirable to ladies. No wonder they always 'fall under' the Spirit. Such heavenly falls make them delirious amd take them to cloud 9

TenQ:
Khai!
Should you not even consult with people who should know?

Please I suggest you find out the definition of tangibility before engaging me
Thank you

KnownUnknown:
Starts with S and ends with pirit.

Which spirit? The one we drink or the one christians convulse about on Sundays?
If its the former, its very much tangible. The later is not tangible by any stretch of the imagination. Why? Can we see, touch, hear, taste it? No. Can we appraise it? No. In fact ask 10 christians in the same denominations what the spirit is, and you'll get 11 definitions or properties. And if you ask 10 christians from different denominations, you'll even get 50 definitions. This is cos its not an entity that is tangible and thus everybody and his dog can say or describe it how he feels

TenQ:
Software is tangible!?

And Mathematics
And Logic
And Information?

Mathematics is a branch of science. I think tangible. Cos we feel its effects and can directly study it. We see the branches of math.
Same as logic.
Information is tangible too

Now before you start convulsing, here is Merriam Webster definition of tangible

tangible
1 of 2
adjective
tan·​gi·​ble ˈtan-jə-bəl
Synonyms of tangible
1
a
: capable of being perceived especially by the sense of touch : PALPABLE
b
: substantially real : MATERIAL
2
: capable of being precisely identified or realized by the mind
her grief was tangible
3
: capable of being appraised at an actual or approximate value


From the above definition, we can deduce mathematics, information etc are all tangible since we can appraise them

TenQ:
I can understand how ignorance is the fuel behind your stance.

Have a nice day

How is it?
Software can be programmed and stored. That is tangibility. What else are you talking about?

TenQ:
Aim:
That some Things exist which are NOT tangible is the aim!

Software is tangible.
What things exist that lack tangibility?

Busybrain2233:
Still didn't answer my questions.

Excuse me Mr. What facts are you talking of?

Okay lemme use your analogy here, have you seen a God creating humans before? So how did you KNOW that you were created by a God? And how did you KNOW that male was created before female? I need you to provide Ur acclaimed facts here... Hope you know the difference between knowledge and belief?

You're simply ignorant of the word called intelligence, you seem to think is the ability to read and write only. I would advise you to go study intellectual elevating books, and not the one that says: A serpent spoke.

Modified: I just realized who is behind the keys (Dtruth...) bye bye, can't come and be going back and forth with you I don big pass that level, find your level mates Brah...

Lol. You thought its a sane person you're arguing with? I was just watching both of you go back and forth. The guy has schiz. He needs an MSE

LordReed:
Are you an illiterate who doesn't know about how human reproduction works? How is a sperm fertilising an ovum and producing a child 9 months later a miracle? At what point does this divine intervention enter into the equation in reproduction? When the god was watch the man fuçk his wife?

The guy probably doesn't know how genetics, embryology etc works. And definitely knows nothing about any miracle. His idea of science is what his pastor tells him

ocnovakmichael:
May be that is not an intelligent response, but an intelligent man says he's not had a miracle ever in his life and all you intelligentsias agree.

Miracle is the divine intervention in the course of life. His birth was a function of divine intervention yes or no?

Think about that!

No. There was no divine intervention in his birth. I don't know the story of Reed's birth(and I suspect you don't) so you dont interpose a miracle in that event. Miracle simply means a supernatural event. What is supernatural about a baby popping out of a vagina? Are you aware there are factors that ensure the baby comes out at birth? The uterus contracts rhythmically and forcefully, and it dilates and softens so that the head of the baby comes out. If the head is out, the rest of the body is easy. I can't count the number of times I have taken deliveries.
Even in difficult births, we intervene to assist the woman push if there is poor maternal effort, unless there is cephalopelvic disproportion which we deliver via a section.
I still insist theists have severe grasp of facts or science

budaatum:
Yes I would. So long as I can use my ears to 'touch' the words you speak, your words are tangible.

Let me complicate it for you my Lord, to further confuse you.

The thoughts in my head are tangible to me because I can 'perceive' and feel my thoughts with my mind even though I can not touch my thoughts with my hands.

The thoughts in my head are intangible to you because you can not perceive or feel the thoughts in my mind.

U r using tangible in a different context here

TenQ:
Why then is it difficult to answer these two questions


Questions:
4. Is it wisdom to insist on a physical quantification of a software within a machine to conclude that it exist?
5. Tell me, how can one prove the existence of a software WITHIN an AI machine's CPU or MEMORY without the use of another software?

I as an atheist don't insist on physical quantification
Again I ask, what is the aim of all these questions