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hopefulLandlord:
I'm blushing

You should be. You have been giving folks free one way tickets to hell. Hope you'll enjoy the hell with us

terrezo2002:
I won't join you to deviate from the subject matter.
Why the headache spending your time on nairaland talking about what you don't believe in?
You should spend time talking about what you believe in. The battle you are fighting is not having any effect, rather it is giving Christianity more strength.
Remember the words of Jesus. " I will build My Church and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it"
So rest friend.

So going by your post, TenQ, Advocatejare, MightySparrow and all those christians dropping posts everyday against JWs and Muslims are being tormented?
Makes sense

Jackanda1:
A kingdom divided against itself does not stand, why would satan attack you if you're working for him?

I was never attacked as an atheist.

Been an atheist is enough misfortune, Satan knows you would end up in hell with him.

Ofcourse, Satan hates and attacks the children of GOD.

But God helps them overcome through the shield of faith and the word of God. Satan only dominates christians when they allow him.

I know this makes no sense to you, but its true

Demonic attacks, demonic sicknesses, demonic possessions etc is all I get if I become a Christian. But if I become an atheist, they all go away.
I think I know which to choose.
Thanks for clearing stuff up

ucheheart:
Then channel your reply to lawag3 and stop disturbing us on nairaland.

Na people like you go deceive people finish come later turn born again

Lol 😆
Why e dey pain una? Now you see how muslims feel when there are so many anti-islam posts popping up in the Religion section. A bit of your own medicine is now turning bitter for you.
Abeg no vex. Sorry

terrezo2002:
Since I know you on nairaland, you give yourself headache talking about entities you don't believe in. It just says one thing, you believe but making every effort to fight it off your mind.
And from what I can see, you will do this for the rest of your life.
Christianity has made impacts on the world, but you don't see it. All you talk about is what is not true about Christianity.
My friend rest. The battle is bigger than you.

Lol. This guy is cracking me up
Do you know why Seun had to separate the Christians from the muslims and even put a pledge for anyone trying to post in a Muslim thread? Because christians are forever attacking Muslims, on Muslim threads, and even in christian threads. Check the Religion section, you'll see numerous posts on why Islam or Mohammed is bad etc. Nobody instigated those Christians. Notably TenQ, AdvocateJare(or something like that) etc. None of you clowns have asked them why they made such posts.. No. You turn a blind eye. You yourself even participate in those Islam bashing threads. Now an atheist has made a similar thread about Christianity and you're here ranting. You obviously don't heed what your bible told you about judging others.
Look how you ignored what I posted anf attacked me. Typical christians. Ignore the message, attack the messenger

ucheheart:
Face your atheism and leave Christians alone.

What you believe in works for you. That's my motto.

Lol, these bitter christians sef.
I see several posts here about people changing, I don't see any Christian complain. An atheist makes his own post and y'all having seizures.
Like I said, this thread was made in reply to Lawag3, a Christian who asked my why I became an atheist. Is it a crime to reply him? Lol

terrezo2002:
Why all these troubles on what you don't believe in. This shows you something is in you trying to fight off the truth and you are angry that it keeps popping into your head even though you have tried to fight it off.

From your post, I already concluded where you are driving at. That it is better to serve Satan than Yahweh.
It is not difficult to discern the spirits that works in people.

Your rant always about Christianity just gave you away who truly you are.

Repent!

Lol 😆
1. I have been on Nairaland for about 8 years, and i didn't create any post like this cos i know what folks like you would say. I made this post (which I converted to a thread) after a Christian here Lawag3, a nice fellow, asked me why I became an atheist and I promised him I'll reply him and create a thread so other Christians can input. And after a few days(and having some spare free time as a Saturday), I decided to reply him. I didn't make the post out of whatever bullshitry you thought. I
2. I don't believe in your Satan or any imaginary booboo yall cook up

LordReed:
You can't examine these stories too critically, they fall apart like wet tissue paper otherwise. It took me too long but I am happy I got there. No more wrestling with angels, demons, spirits and gods, just living my life like a human being with hopes, dreams, purposes, love and all the other good stuff without belief in supernatural beings out to trip me up like schoolyard bullies.

Kudos jaephoenix.

Thanks bro. Really glad I found out the truth. I was still asking questions til I got into Nairaland. Folks like you, Hopefullandlord, capslocked(wheres this dude) etc helped me deconvert

I'm a physician. During med school, I noticed many things in my clinical trainings. Many people dying even after copious prayers. Some were pastors and notable men of god that supposedly did miracles. I asked myself where all the Bible quotes about healing went to. Jusr before I did my Sponsio Academica, lost my dad. This man was a vibrant Christian. Left his booming alcohol business to become a Christian and from there his health dwindled….
Then I started digging. Asked several questions, which was either ignored by my mum or I was told to ask the pastors, who turned out to be clueless. The butt of those questions were these
1. If Yahweh loved us, why give us a very contradictory and lie infected book like the bible, and then disappear from the scene. I mean since the days of the Bible where he was popping up and throwing down fire and lightning from up above, dude has gone mighty silent.
2. How come the most 'christianized' countries happen to be the most miserable? From Latin America to Africa, poverty is the norm. And the relatively atheistic societies are the most successful, like the Scandinavian countries, Iceland, China, Eastern Europe etc. Despite the fact your bible said righteousness exalteth a nation and even said the prayers of the heathens are abominations, yet those heathen get more successful while the people that pray more to him get more miserable. Case in point in Nigeria. We call US, UK, Canada sinful and irreligious cos of their LGBTQXXX, yet we abandon Nigeria that abhors LGBTQXXX to flee to those 'cursed' countries (like many Christians call them)
3. Miracles only happen in TVs and social media. Never happens in hospitals where the real sick people are. For some reasons, pastors only do their miracles in their churches, but avidly avoid these hospitals, even if the hospitals are right beside them. In fact, many churches now have hospitals, and run clinics on Sundays. Even pastors and churches contribute money for surgeries for their members. I mean they could simply heal those members with a word, just like good old Jesus, thus saving them from giving us doctors their hard-earned money, and also saving the member and his family the physical pain and stress of the sickness. Only miracles we hear about are the unconfirmed healing from HIV, sickle cell etc. Have you ever seen them make an amputee limb regrow? Lol 😆 . That one would be difficult for them to arrange, especially on live tv

4. The Bible story on creation is so funny. There are many sticky points than a chocolate bar.
A. Christians believe atheists are wrong to assume everything on earth was not created, but they forget the fact their bible said Yahweh created the world from….. nothing. And where did Yahweh himself pop out from? Yup. Nothing. He just existed
B. Your creation story said Yahweh created plants before the sun. Interesting…
C. Chapter 1 reports that the fruit trees were created before the man, while chapter 2 indicates they were made after him. Genesis 1:20 says the fowl were created out of the waters; Genesis 2:19 alleges they were formed from the ground.
D. Contradictions are also seen in the biblical story of a worldwide flood. According to Genesis 6:19-22, God ordered Noah to bring “of every living thing of all flesh, two of every sort . . . into the ark.” Nevertheless, Genesis 7:2-3 relates that the Lord ordered Noah to take into the ark the clean beasts and the birds by sevens, and only the unclean beasts by twos.
E. Genesis 8:4 reports that, as the waters of the flood receded, Noah’s ark rested on the mountains of Ararat in the seventh month. The very next verse, however, says the mountaintops could not be seen until the tenth month.
F.Genesis 8:13 describes the earth as being dry on the first day of the first month. But Genesis 8:14 informs us the earth was not dry until the twenty-seventh day of the second month
You can see other gaffes in the Bible here https://www.nairaland.com/7659505/book-bible-gaffes

4. The Bible is a poor moral source.
A. Yahweh committed more murders than Satan. Matter of fact, I can't remember any killing by Satan but an loving god committed all sorts of genocide, from innocent babies, told Israelites to rip babies from preggo women etc. He even said people wearing different materials in the same cloth should be killed.
B. The Bible upholds slavery and even warns slaves to be obedient to their slavemasters just like they are obedient to him. He gave 10 commandments, yet ignored saying anything bad about slavery or misogyny. What does that tell you?
C. Its also a sin to work on Sabbaths which may be Saturdays or Sundays, depending on your Christian persuation.
D. Its a sin to wear different fabrics

5. So Yahweh created the whole world, right?
There's Eden. He then made a tree of knowledge, and guess what? Planted it right in the middle of the garden. As an all knowing god, Yahweh knew Adam was gonna fail but planted this forbidden tree right in the middle of the garden with luscious fruits, to distract and tempt Adam. Gave him a partner that would make the temptation very hard to pass up. Then to make matters worse, he allowed Satan(an omnipresent and omnipotent being) to finish the job of tempting Adam? Then when man fails, he turns around to blame him of making the wrong choice? And then went ahead to rain curses in the poor dude.
Are you seeing how Yahweh stacked up the odds against poor Adam. Almost as if he wants the dude to fail.

Here is an analogy. You(yahweh) sent your son(Adam) to school(garden of eden) and paid a bully(Satan) to distract and beat the child, so he'll fail in school? I used the word 'paid' because he Satan is an upgraded being, having those powers handed to him by Yahweh. Whats his target? A puny Adam, a regular mortal with no powers whatsoever

6. The story of creationism has no historical backup. And evolution can be supported by biology, genetics, archeology etc. There was even no mention of dinosaurs in the Bible even though they roamed for thousands of years

Lawag3:
Ok am pleading with you tell me the story of your deconversion you've nothing to lose. And for sure I will show you where the Bible give clues to life before man.

Ok. Lemme be brief.
I'm a physician. During med school, I noticed many things in my clinical trainings. Many people dying even after copious prayers. Some were pastors and notable men of god that supposedly did miracles. I asked myself where all the Bible quotes about healing went to. Jusr before I did my Sponsio Academica, lost my dad. This man was a vibrant Christian. Left his booming alcohol business to become a Christian and from there his health dwindled….
Then I started digging. Asked several questions, which was either ignored by my mum or I was told to ask the pastors, who turned out to be clueless. The butt of those questions were these
1. If Yahweh loved us, why give us a very contradictory and lie infected book like the bible, and then disappear from the scene. I mean since the days of the Bible where he was popping up and throwing down fire and lightning from up above, dude has gone mighty silent.
2. How come the most 'christianized' countries happen to be the most miserable? From Latin America to Africa, poverty is the norm. And the relatively atheistic societies are the most successful, like the Scandinavian countries, Iceland, China, Eastern Europe etc. Despite the fact your bible said righteousness exalteth a nation and even said the prayers of the heathens are abominations, yet those heathen get more successful while the people that pray more to him get more miserable. Case in point in Nigeria. We call US, UK, Canada sinful and irreligious cos of their LGBTQXXX, yet we abandon Nigeria that abhors LGBTQXXX to flee to those 'cursed' countries (like many Christians call them)
3. Miracles only happen in TVs and social media. Never happens in hospitals where the real sick people are. For some reasons, pastors only do their miracles in their churches, but avidly avoid these hospitals, even if the hospitals are right beside them. In fact, many churches now have hospitals, and run clinics on Sundays. Even pastors and churches contribute money for surgeries for their members. I mean they could simply heal those members with a word, just like good old Jesus, thus saving them from giving us doctors their hard-earned money, and also saving the member and his family the physical pain and stress of the sickness. Only miracles we hear about are the unconfirmed healing from HIV, sickle cell etc. Have you ever seen them make an amputee limb regrow? Lol 😆 . That one would be difficult for them to arrange, especially on live tv

4. The Bible story on creation is so funny. There are many sticky points than a chocolate bar.
A. Christians believe atheists are wrong to assume everything on earth was not created, but they forget the fact their bible said Yahweh created the world from….. nothing. And where did Yahweh himself pop out from? Yup. Nothing. He just existed
B. Your creation story said Yahweh created plants before the sun. Interesting…
C. Chapter 1 reports that the fruit trees were created before the man, while chapter 2 indicates they were made after him. Genesis 1:20 says the fowl were created out of the waters; Genesis 2:19 alleges they were formed from the ground.
D. Contradictions are also seen in the biblical story of a worldwide flood. According to Genesis 6:19-22, God ordered Noah to bring “of every living thing of all flesh, two of every sort . . . into the ark.” Nevertheless, Genesis 7:2-3 relates that the Lord ordered Noah to take into the ark the clean beasts and the birds by sevens, and only the unclean beasts by twos.
E. Genesis 8:4 reports that, as the waters of the flood receded, Noah’s ark rested on the mountains of Ararat in the seventh month. The very next verse, however, says the mountaintops could not be seen until the tenth month.
F.Genesis 8:13 describes the earth as being dry on the first day of the first month. But Genesis 8:14 informs us the earth was not dry until the twenty-seventh day of the second month
You can see other gaffes in the Bible here https://www.nairaland.com/7659505/book-bible-gaffes

4. The Bible is a poor moral source.
A. Yahweh committed more murders than Satan. Matter of fact, I can't remember any killing by Satan but an loving god committed all sorts of genocide, from innocent babies, told Israelites to rip babies from preggo women etc. Before you say, oh that's old testament, new testament speaks about love, lemme remind you. The bible says Yahweh does not change, he's the same yesterday, today and forever etc. So that means he's the same old murderous grouchy old man masquerading as a lovey dovey dude.
B. The Bible upholds slavery and even warns slaves to be obedient to their slavemasters just like they are obedient to him. He gave 10 commandments, yet ignored saying anything bad about slavery or misogyny. What does that tell you?
C. Its also a sin to work on Sabbaths which may be Saturdays or Sundays, depending on your Christian persuation.
D. Its a sin to wear different fabrics

5. So Yahweh created the whole world, right?
There's Eden. He then made a tree of knowledge, and guess what? Planted it right in the middle of the garden. As an all knowing god, Yahweh knew Adam was gonna fail but planted this forbidden tree right in the middle of the garden with luscious fruits, to distract and tempt Adam. Gave him a partner that would make the temptation very hard to pass up. Then to make matters worse, he allowed Satan(an omnipresent and omnipotent being) to finish the job of tempting Adam? Then when man fails, he turns around to blame him of making the wrong choice? And then went ahead to rain curses in the poor dude.
Are you seeing how Yahweh stacked up the odds against poor Adam. Almost as if he wants the dude to fail.

Here is an analogy. You(yahweh) sent your son(Adam) to school(garden of eden) and paid a bully(Satan) to distract and beat the child, so he'll fail in school? I used the word 'paid' because he Satan is an upgraded being, having those powers handed to him by Yahweh. Whats his target? A puny Adam, a regular mortal with no powers whatsoever

6. The story of creationism has no historical backup. And evolution can be supported by biology, genetics, archeology etc. There was even no mention of dinosaurs in the Bible even though they roamed for thousands of years.

Lemme stop here. There are so many reasons I chose to be an atheist and these posts don't cover them. I'll convert my response into a thread so my christians can respond. Thank you for your interest Lawag3

KookSpook21:
Hi all. I think the language spoken by Adam and Eve is a subject of speculation and debate. While the Bible doesn't explicitly mention the language they spoke, various interpretations suggest it might have been a divinely inspired or heavenly language. Others believe it could have been a precursor to human languages. The topic is largely theological, and interpretations vary among different religious traditions.

Apart from being psychotic, you're ignorant too.
So who taught Adam and Eve this 'heavenly language'?

Lawag3:
Many scientists you call believe in God.

Whatever they will know will not disprove the existence of God.

You think the believe in a supreme being that have defined humanity since when we first walked the earth will be disproved? Why do you think every ancient cultures believe in a god why. Because we have a common ancestor who encounter God saw him spoke with him. They told there children who told their children until the population of people grew. The same God you deny his existence now you'll encounter him when you die and you'll surely remember all this.

The beliefs in gods stem from ignorance of early humans about the phenomena around them. Like lightning, flood, rain etc. They even assigned specific gods to these phenomena, like god of thunder etc. Now as science came and explained these phenomena as natural, the belief in these gods are abating. And now religion is currently abating now and atheism is increasing.
No gods appeared to anybody. Thank you

Aemmyjah:
I said I will
And I will post
I'm just very busy
Where is the evidence the Bible say earth is flat?

1. Its now 4 days, no rebuttal from you.
2. Here's the verses, I'm not like you that keep dodging

Revelation 7:1
1 After this I saw four angels standing at the four corners of the earth, holding back the four winds of the earth to prevent any wind from blowing on the land or on the sea or on any tree

Matthew 4:8
8 Again, the devil took him to a very high mountain and showed him all the kingdoms of the world and their splendor

Isaiah 40:22
22 He sits enthroned above the circle of the earth, and its people are like grasshoppers. He stretches out the heavens like a canopy, and spreads them out like a tent to live in

Isaiah 11:12
12 He will raise a banner for the nations and gather the exiles of Israel; he will assemble the scattered people of Judah from the four quarters of the earth

LordReed:
LoLz, the same Bonnke that needed surgery when he had a health problem. Bwahahahahahaha!

Same Bonnke that had issues with the German authorities about his scam miracles, and was thus restricted to Africa. His scam resurrection of one man was my favorite miracle.

Jackanda1:
No demon would attack an atheist. Since attacking you would give an evidence of the supernatural and make you run back to God. Demons are smart

Ok. Lemme get this straight. So demons ignore atheists, but Yahweh allows those demons to torment christians?
By the way I thought christians say Yahweh protects his own, and you also say misfortunes are for the unrighteous. How do you marry these opposing statements?

Dtruthspeaker:
Have you not heard it said e better say person no born than to born dis type of pikin?

What fvckery are you talking about? Even chrissies do have wayward kids

Lawag3:
He is the beginning of all things

I know you don't understand science but I ask you anyway

science say matter cannot be created from nothing right?

The big bang just happened when energy collided and exploded throwing dust into the atmosphere right?

Life began from bacteria right ?

Those bacteria evolved into different living creatures including what later became man.

All this happened by chance.


Now against the Bible which says an all powerful being created everything from the words of his mouth.

He created time,space and matter so he exists outside his creation

Which is more clearer and give reasons for your answer.

He created them from what?

Lawag3:
Nothing. I was telling this to one of your own but he was too confused to understand. Evolution brings more question than answers.

What questions

Lawag3:
He wasn't made he existed before time believing in a God that creates. Is better than believing something came out of nothing.

1. Actually you believe something came out of nothing. You believe god popped out of nothing and not only that, you believe he created the world out of nothing
2. I never said man came outta nothing. I said I don't know how man came. I have said this several times, but somehow it doesn't penetrate y'all skulls

Aemmyjah:
Keep wailing 😩
Nowhere the Bible teaches plants were before sun ☀
Those with half brain know the facts
Keep believing lies
If it were so, I'd have kept quiet
Keep lying

Its now I know why peeps hate JW clowns.
You guys lie barefaced lies. As in white lies.
Someone copied the Bible verse which clearly depicts something. You come out to say its a lie. Meanwhile it is written plain for the blind to see.
You even said you'll post what your Bible said, yet 24 hours later, you haven't posted it, yet you're condemning me as a liar.
This bullshitery is crazy

cornelboy:
You don't know so don't explain what you don't know

Did you see me explaining how humans came or the origin of the universe ? U well so?
The only stuff I talk about is evolution, which basically explains how humans changed. It doesn't talk about how humans originated. Do you see the difference?

Aemmyjah:
Bible does not teach that
Same way you said Bible say earth waa flat without evidence
It's like lying against Bible makes you feel good

Again, clown, what book did I quote? Was that copied from Harry Potter? Or Obi Goes to School?
When you're caught on a lie, you'll just be spouting incoherent gibberish.
I have checked all the versions of your Holy Babble and it said the same. You can check yourself
Clowns!

LordReed:
LMFAO! What an epically deluded rant, you really should go to clown school. Bwahahahahaha!

Bro this isn't clownery. This is plain schiz. Many Nigerians have this disorder in different levels but we laugh over them. He needs medical attention

Dtruthspeaker:
I would not be surprised if you are appointed the beasts false prophet.

Like saying if you show him good rice, he won't need to rely on his supplier for good rice while hiding the fact that therefore he believes and follows what you believe in, which is belief in Satan.

Whereas deceiving other people which you do, is not an ingredient of morals but a proof of evil and wickedness which is the belief of Satan lovers and worshippers like you.

And the mere fact that you even wish to use morality where you are actually evil, is proof that of God and that He is The one Who Owns this House called the earth and has Set it and Commanded it that good (Morals) is the approved way of living.

Which is why you devils cannot say, If you show anyone evil as a basis for life they will agree with you devils that God does not exist and people don't need to believe in God/bible, since you devils are the ones who own this earth.

Clearly, you are the beasts prophet or who knows maybe you may turn to the beast himself.

Your delusions of grandeur, persecution etc is outta hand.
I think you need to turn yourself in management for schizoaffective disorders by a shrink. You're long overdue. No capping

Dtruthspeaker:
Only devils like you do not see that the bible did not copy anyone and does not need to.

Have you even made any attempt to research bible history?

Emmanuel30a:
How can I knows that, sebi you would knows/you can remind me the last time I reads A BIBLE; YES! I HAVE A BIBLE AND I AM A BIBLE-that...?, YET! GOD IS NOT a man that HE SHOULD LIE... DID you or have you read that in A BIBLE/from A BIBLE OR THE HOLY BIBLE...?...

Yes I have read it. From the copied bible

Dtruthspeaker:
Off Point!..Aside, Do you not already know that when your children grow up they would take your car, watch, clothes etc..? Do you not have a plan remedy it?

Off Point anyway.

No, I don't know. I'm not all-knowing. Now go through my post slowly slowpoke and answer the question.
Do you smoke weed before answering questions?

Dtruthspeaker:
Off Point! Even when you know that your wife will cheat on you, you still acted surprised. Anyway, off point.

Lol. If I knew my wife would cheat on me, why would I marry her?
See bro. Your replies to posts here reeks of plain poor comprehension skills. Obviously its either you don't before typing or you don't understand what you're typing. Either way, your posts always scream TOP CRETARD

Godspeed001:
You get time to answer am

Its because you're empty, that's why u can't interface me. person

Dtruthspeaker:
Expectdly, you devils and those who have chosen to die, will hate this thread and must definitely speak rubbish against it.

Right now, you have shown and proven that human morality is to be evil, unruly, unreasonable, seeking the destruction of his fellowman because he is destroyed, and pursuing every bad and evil bahaviour etc. So your morality, is immorality.

Every reasonable person has seen that the Hammurabi codes was an attempt by man to write down The Laws which everyone in the world knew but the bible just came to give us the full Laws since now man has learnt to write that we may know all.

It's as simple as that.

Which one be law and full law? Did you skip the part I said the bible was copied from the Hammurabi codes?

Emmanuel30a:
You don't mention Samurai too or as well... The last Samurai... Dindinrin?...

Stick to the topic.
The bible is filled with miseducations and lies. Do you know that?

Aemmyjah:
Richard Dawkins (atheist and renowned scientist- Life has no higher purpose than to perpetuate the survival of DNA...life has no design, no purpose, no evil and no good, nothing but blind pitiless indifference.

If you like deny it
This is something that many people refuse to identify as an atheist
That is your philosophy too
De play

What is evil?
What is good?
What is the purpose of your life?
Answer the above