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Image123:
You can't count? Mention 5 Christians on this forum and the post where they boasted on this forum to "you" that they heal all manner of disease. We go wait till next 50 years. Joker.

LordReed:
Abeg send one to FxMasterz maybe he can cast out the fibroid. LoLz.

LordReed:
Who is the global coordinator of science?

Image123:
Funny. So the update now is that there are miracles, but it's not by God or not only by God? LoLz. Hope the OP, Reed and other jokers got the update also, at least it's some progress. LoLz

SIRTee15:
Pls do not mention me in any of your dishonest post....never again.
Where did I say spontaneous remission in cancer do not occur. You continue to twist your words to suit your deluded and confused narrative.
I even had to do a mention of posts where I mentioned spontaneous remission in cancer do happen and u had the guts to come here and lie in my name.
Don't ever try this again. Otherwise I will take it up with the mods and have u banned. This will be my last warning.

MightySparrow:
Of course you know by my small level of education I know a bit of electricity and a bit more of thermodynamics. A little more of Mathematics and above all practical thinking because engineering does not work on theory but measurable quantities.

So being a Christian, I can only talk about Christianity and Christian God. Science has said we have evolved from apes and possibly develop to something higher. Christian God has told the first man and woman and how they came into being, where and when. It has a perfect record of genealogy to Jesus Christ and the family of Jesus (Jews) till date.

God waited till man developed the art of writing before Moses could record the beginning. He showed Himself to Enoch, Noah, Moses and many others not from Israel like Pharaoh, Darius, etc.
From Eden till now He makes sure that His people appear in Egypt the ruling civilization to Assyrian to Babylonian to Medo - Persian, to Greek to Roman empire. His people challenged the wisdom and knowledge of the times and subdued them.
In the field of science the Jews won Nobel prize more than any people group. Of 900 people that have received the prize about 200 are Jews.

In today's world, the leaders of science are from places affected by Christian faith. Greater percentage of authorities in Science, Economics, politics etc that challenged and changed the course of things are directly or indirectly affected by Christian ethics.

Everybody is challenging the leadership of the West but the countries are but and advanced baby Christian values.
You mention most scientists they have names from the Bible. Good percentage of them.

MightySparrow:
We are saying the same thing. In the same Korea,, people pray to God to get healed. South Korea once had the largest church and people are getting healed there. I agree that healing can have many sources, that science has eclipsed others even now is the problem.
There are people in Korea that don't by choice use other means including the meditation and hospitals but prayers only and get their answers. Science has never eclipsed knowledge of a personal God. It is all by choice and more by experience.

MightySparrow:
You don't need a god to prophecy. The physic people do with accuracy. Mitchell Nostradamus, Mummy Simpson, Edgar Cayce etc.

However, for you to say that that those who believe in God are stupid is the challenge.
Like I have always argue, I have not seen how science has taken place of a personal God.

I know a bít of science myself being a Masters Degree holder in a branch of engineering. These days I read much of astrophysics. While I appreciate the giant strides in that area and the works of of people like Stephen Hawkings, Carl Sagan, Professors Wheeler, Neil Degrasse Tyson. I know many of them seem not to believe in a god. But at the frontier of scientific knowledge is uncertainty. The latest pictures by James Webb telescope cast doubt on earlier beliefs especially of Big Bang Theory. We are not certain of the nature of atoms. Except for the evidences of science, how it has improved the quality of life of humans, one can also query the verity of scientific knowledge. Science has not solved all human problems. In the attempt, the solution to a problem creates another.
Can the same be said about about the inadequacies of knowledge of God? There are so many gods and many scriptures. Many gods of millennia ago are no longer in existence. Many superstitions are now debunked.

Yet, the Christian God has meandered his Acts through all all civilizations, knowledge, philosophies and has not been discarded but waxing stronger in the mind of people.

43Ronin:
I heard when dem knack you this utagba going to hospital will be suicidal. People don die because of this thing sha. Thank God for your life.

LordReed:
Jaephoenix come and see your people o. LoLz. Someone that probably has diabetes or some other underlying illness dem don turn am to winchy winchy. LMAO!

Ikechukwumdy:
Chronic leg wound: One of many weapons witchcraft use to torture people into joining their cult,

Witchcraft cult is working very hard in taking over every territory possible, Since is a spirit of control, they has many system by which they force people to join the cult, the witches and wizards will never go to anyone to present the proposal of initiation because they operate a secret cult and everything must be secret, instead they use sicknesses & diseases.

When they are jealous of someone and they decides to initiate the person, when they put it on the food or drink and it doesn't work (if you are born again) then they will inflict the person with these sicknesses and diseases to make you believe that you don't have option but to deny Jesus by accepting to join.

One weapon they use most time is ulcer, below are pictures of chronic leg ulcer which cannot be healed unless you join the cult or Jesus heals you.

Well, that is one of many weapons they used on me but my testimony is that I refused to surrender to any of that and Jesus came into my room I a night to heal me and also equip me against more other weapons like poison, the scare is still on my leg but I was instantly healed that night.

I challenge you child of God, when your faith is tested do not throw in the towel, everyone will go through trial but I beg you even on the point of death, never ever give up, this is my mindset many times I found myself in the shadows of death: Even if God does not want to deliver me , if I must die let me die.

If u are already initiated, the door is widely open for you to come out, don't believe that once initiated cannot go out, even God told me that even the lawful captives shall be delivered, Do not be afraid for someone already paid a price for that, come out among them, for you that are still suffering, hold because he will come and save you.

"After you have suffered a little while, the God of all grace, who has called you to his eternal glory in Christ, will himself restore, confirm, strengthen, and establish you” (1 Peter 5:10).


You can contact me for prayers against any operation of the devil, any sickness, diseases.
Facebook page: https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100075798206799
Whatsapp number: 08133143969

You need to know that these witchcraft powers does not affect genuine child of God that walk in the perfect will of God ,

but if you are a child of God that doesn't walk in obedience to God's word, sin can create an open door for the enemies to attack (I'm not talking about perfection)

Bigchristo:
I am not against them teaching their students but why on earth would they be using someone else’s case file to treat him? I mean the name on the both files aren’t even related neither they were diagnosed of same ailments, I don’t go to government hospitals anymore God forbid.

Bigchristo:
stupid talk… I am telling you my own experience you are here spewing nonsense,name is not tagged to bed in UBTH the ward were my in law died, I just hope you experience what I’ve experienced then you will understand the kind of blunders those Doctors are making over there, it’s not ideal to reveal a lot about this case for some reasons but currently the family of the man slammed UBTH with lawsuits in regards to this matter, this is where we get it wrong in Nigeria when someone is explaining their case instead of some of you to learn through this or seek further investigation in regards to the matter you quickly downplayed on it and call it fake news, just shut up Abeg

danilmo:
I don't think u read and understand my submission. In Nigeria we enter theater not knowing the blood clothing profile of the patient, we only order for it wen we are clinically suspecting a possiblity of uncontrollable heamorrhage. Same way so many other things to check on. But the fact is this is Nigeria, because of finance we still manouver to "riskly" help out. Trust me if we are to do the 100% risk free which is not even obtainable in Europe, u will b paying Millions. Ure cursing after u read where I said something that should be charged for 1Milla all things equal, we charge 350,400k and take risk because of finance, trusting our skill to manouver for the good of patient incase of complications, u're here cursing,lol. Go and ask how much patient pay for health in that europe and compare it, u think health delivery is cheap? It's costly but we still survive here base on we we. See I've helped patient financially, donated blood before surgery as patient couldn't afford the needed, and she needed surgery done to save her life, u're here cursing, lol. Guy calm down o. We just know it's Doctors against the society. Whatever suits u, talk.

AsaBlackheart:
Guess Mr Sunday should have recorded the conversation during the meeting. As of right now he has no proof that the hospital acted erroneously. I believe him though. Hospitals will never admit any wrong-doing publicly unless you got proof

Bigchristo:
You are not telling yourself the truth if you can’t read between the lines to understand this is a cover up news

I grow up in Benin I have plenty encounters of how these things happen, my in law died in UBTH they were treating him with someone else’s case file giving him wrong medication that’s how he died only for us to find out, Doctors will be coming to see patients in the hospital ward they will come with at least 5 to 6 medical students and be using a patient to teach them such things needs to be stopped, when issues like this comes up don’t think the person just lied, I saw the post on Twitter then I remember what happened to my in law

Cassandraloius:
Majority of these student doctor's don't know anything, the last time I was at UPTH, a female student doctor was asked to take care of a patient untill she recovers, I dunno what she gave the man exactly, but the next thing we saw was the patient's dead body.

linearity:
I am not saying that shit don't happen or things must be 100%, there are no utopia world or scenarios out there.

All I am saying is that, given the multiple cascading events that took place in this case and the fact that it happened in Nigeria, where maternal mortality rate is among the top 10 in the world, more often than none, there is culpability with the professionals who had a duty to care.

In a situation where 1 in every 22 women would die during pregnancy in Nigeria says a lot about our healthcare system. Agreed the majority of these deaths are due to lack of care or access to care centers, but a good portion of them like the case in point happened in care centers in Nigeria.

https://www.concernusa.org/story/worst-countries-to-be-a-mother/

So in situations like these, my default position is to blame the care center until proven otherwise. I agree that I am biased (so factor this bias in understanding my position).

However, if you look at the bright side, it shows that I have a lot of faith in the Nigeria care centers that, they can really do more and in most cases, it is not really the money that makes the difference, but the value attached to human life by the care center personnel.

Don't take my word for it, visit a few care centers in Nigeria and see how humans have been reduced to commodities, everything that goes on is transactional despite budgets covering these items. The state House clinic in Abuja had a budget of about N20 billion but bu the President's wife told us, you can't even get Paracetamol there and the President travels abroad to treat his ear infection.

FRANCISTOWN:
I do not understand what you were trying to ask me, but lemme say this.

I'm giving you first hand information based on normal day to day life of what's going on in South Korea.
I've said it up there that the larger percentage of South Koreans do not pray to any god yet they still get healings that science cannot explain yet. Probably that was what you read from Late Rev. Yongi Cho's books.

So therefore, healing doesn't come from a particular god.

Healing is just like the rainbow, anybody can see it, but not everybody will see it.

If healing came from any particular god, then a particular religion will record more cases of supernatural healing more than the rests.

I still maintain that healing doesn't come from any god. People get healed in such a way that Science can't explain yet. Please do your homework.

MightySparrow:
You arguments I have experience and a witness. You think you can by logic convince me I no longer bear my name or have education? Same with my proof. There are more than a billion Christian devotees all over
the world. You are claiming to wiser than all in your own cocoon?

There are more than a billion polytheist devotees all over the world. You are claiming to wiser than all in your own cocoon?

MightySparrow:
So what is your point? Pastor Yonggi Cho is from South Korea a Buddist. He wrote this in is book Holy Spirit and was going to die of tuberculosis.
He claimed that people get healed someway in South Korea that what we call miracles kia not strange to them.
How did most of them become atheists? Was it always so?

MightySparrow:
You don't need to travel far these days to interact with happenings in the world. What of if you are the one who is myopic?

In oriental countries, all manners of sicknesses are healed by their meditation. People pray to different gods for all manners of things.
The only thing is when people want to criticize, they only criticize the Christian God. While gods are many, science is one and globally coordinated.

FRANCISTOWN:
You dey whine?
Is this playing?
What kind of playing is this?
@ Jaephoenix finally someone saw limbs regrow. 🤣🤣🤣

I don't even need to ask for a proof because I'm sure you won't be able to provide any.

But at least, we no get tribal marks for face na

FRANCISTOWN:
God healed your wife of psoriasis but he abandoned many faithful Christians to die of cancer.

He healed your daughter of rotten bones but could not save T.B Joshua, Pastor Adeboye's son, the Rev Father who died in a sleep.

You are happy he healed your family but refused to heal many children who die of malaria weekly then you must be very wicked.
You are just as wicked as your imaginary "god's" character.

I guess you must be very special. You and your family were made of gold instead of sand(same as you guys always talk it)

By the way, people who have never heard of any god in their lives also experience healings that can't be explained by science yet.

I've got a childhood friend in South Korea. When she last came to Nigeria, she told me about 80% of their population over there do not pray to any god.

She said most of them have probably not even said the word "god" in 20 years.

Yet she told me most of them over there beats cancer, and may other sickness without medical attention, without prayers.

You see, that's why it's good to travel. You can't beat the level of exposure.

You can read about US all your life , but you can't beat the knowledge of someone who stays there and drinks from there.

MightySparrow:
Here you are my friend. I made an explanation on the Bible you never replied on our last discussion.

However, Faith in science and or God is personal. If God fail others, He hasn't failed my.
Years back my wife was diagnosed of psoriasis, when we went to internet, they said the chance of getting her skin back was very slim with so much money. We turned to God. He healed her. My daughter had a decaying bone about ten years ago. The doctor that was to conduct operation on her to plant antibiotics in the bones that I refused, is her lecturer today.

You have absolute faith in science, beautiful; I have proven God also.

Like the other discussion, I still don't see how science has or will replace God or superior to God. The miracles claimed by the church are far more superior to the science's

I have experienced and heard and seen some for myself.



I have seen legs grow: one shorter than the other before. SS turn AA, conception without womb etc.

I think the dedication to science by scientists is more than the adherents of Christianity. Inability to give it what it takes to prove God.

I can be sceptical about others testimonies, I can't deny my own.

FatherOfJesus:
There nothing difficult to understand in a virgin birth without fertilization 2000 years ago?

It’s you who doesn’t have the brain to figure how ridiculous that is

MaxInDHouse:
He did that in the past but it wasn't appreciated so He made us His Witnesses and we are the greatest proof of His existence!

YES His book said so many things that's difficult for ordinary layman like you and i to believe, so don't think people like me believe in Him because of the book, rather we are believing in Him now because of the promises He made back then that those writing it themselves finds difficult to believe!

So while you are having issues with what happened back then, i am telling you now that even those whose eyes witnessed all those things also find it difficult to believe the evidence we are seeing today!

MaxInDHouse:
He did that in the past but it wasn't appreciated so He made us His Witnesses and we are the greatest proof of His existence!

YES His book said so many things that's difficult for ordinary layman like you and i to believe, so don't think people like me believe in Him because of the book, rather we are believing in Him now because of the promises He made back then that those writing it themselves finds difficult to believe!

So while you are having issues with what happened back then, i am telling you now that even those whose eyes witnessed all those things also find it difficult to believe the evidence we are seeing today!
So where are those promises written?

MaxInDHouse:
He knows everything about His own friends even each strand of air on their heads is numbered but as for persons like you, He doesn't even know you exist!

MaxInDHouse:
Of course He only knows about those who are striving to draw closer to Him, He doesn't know all other things happening on planet earth and there is a reason for that!

MaxInDHouse:
None of this relates to you who is not a believer, those words you're quoting are from those who love and care for His words {Deuteronomy 6:4-6} so His eyes are watching over them {2Chronicles 16:9 compare to Zachariah 2:8} not someone like you who doesn't care about finding what He meant so to him you're DEAD as in non-existence! Luke 9:60
So while those close to Him are on constant watch by His angels who are recording their deeds {Malachi 3:16} you on the other hand are nowhere to be found in those records {Revelations 20:15} so He doesn't even know that you exist at all!

MaxInDHouse:
I told you several times but you just want to discard the truth. God never claimed to be all knowing in the sense you're thinking, yes He will make sure what He purposed will surely be but as for what each intelligent being endowed with freewill will do later He doesn't know unless if He picks interest a person. It's that single person He will focus on until the task He gave such a person is fulfilled He doesn't just pick interest in all Dickson and Harryson so don't expect Him to have persons like you in His mind!
When He focus on an individual with the aim of using the person for a certain assignment yes He will use His power to discern what that person will do in line with his plans but that doesn't mean such a person can't change when distractions come in that's why Satan always try to distract God's servants because Satan knew very well that whoever God assign to carry out a certain task must be a faithful and loyal person (certified) but intelligent creatures can always be distracted!

As for the analogy i only used it to show you how stupid atheists are when they're trying to perceive the personality of God.

If your son can ask you intelligent questions it shows how fast such a child is in learning and God appreciate such persons.