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Christianity Etc › Re: The Book Of Bible Gaffes by jaephoenix(op): 10:33pm On Aug 24, 2023
MaxInDHouse:
Of course not because God is none of those things nah! cheesy
That's interesting. So Yahweh isn't all powerful or all merciful?
Lol. These JWs…
Christianity Etc › Re: The Book Of Bible Gaffes by jaephoenix(op): 10:09pm On Aug 24, 2023
MaxInDHouse:
Ọmọ if the word "OMNISCIENT" didn't appear in the Bible then you can't force it there each person will rather stick to his interpretation! wink
Are the words Omnibenevolent and omnipotent in the Bible? Yes or no. Please don't beat around the bush
Christianity Etc › Re: The Book Of Bible Gaffes by jaephoenix(op): 10:07pm On Aug 24, 2023
cornelboy:
I have already answered you. God knows everything in the universe he created. He has great expertise in that.

When it comes to our choice and the outcome of things happening in the world today
, he doesn't know because he doesn't pay attention to them.
But he can know and accurately predict the future if he needs or wants to.

He can read anybody's mind and know what the person is about to do. He doesn't do that spontaneously and continuously.
And he cannot control it because of the free will he gave us.
1. Actually if you can read and write, its explicitly stated by these verses that Yahweh knows everything. Even Isaiah said he knows everything from the beginning to the end.
What do you understand by everything?
They even used the word infinite. Meaning he knows. There is nothing like he chooses not to know. In fact no bible verse says he chooses not to know about our actions. None. The mothafucker knows every damn thing that happens!
And he does that spontaneously and continuously, thus they used the word 'Infinite' . He even knows the actions before they happen, then how would he choose not to know those actions? Do you and your fellow JW cretards even understand plain and simple English?
Psalm 147:5
Great is our Lord and abundant in strength;
His understanding is infinite.

1 John 3:20
in whatever our heart condemns us; for God is greater than our heart and knows all things.

Psalm 139:4
Even before there is a word on my tongue,
Behold, O Lord, You know it all.


Matthew 10:30
But the very hairs of your head are all numbered.

Psalm 147:4
He counts the number of the stars;
He gives names to all of them.

Hebrews 4:13
And there is no creature hidden from His sight, but all things are open and laid bare to the eyes of Him with whom we have to do.


Psalm 139:1-4
O Lord, You have searched me and known me.
You know when I sit down and when I rise up;
You understand my thought from afar.
You scrutinize my path and my lying down,
And are intimately acquainted with all my ways
.

Psalm 44:21
Would not God find this out?
For He knows the secrets of the heart.

1 Chronicles 28:9
“As for you, my son Solomon, know the God of your father, and serve Him with a whole heart and a willing mind; for the Lord searches all hearts, and understands every intent of the thoughts. If you seek Him, He will let you find Him; but if you forsake Him, He will reject you forever.

Isaiah 40:28
Do you not know? Have you not heard?
The Everlasting God, the Lord, the Creator of the ends of the earth
Does not become weary or tired.
His understanding is inscrutable.


Isaiah 46:9-10
“Remember the former things long past,
For I am God, and there is no other;
I am God, and there is no one like Me,
Declaring the end from the beginning,
And from ancient times things which have not been done,

Saying, ‘My purpose will be established,
And I will accomplish all My good pleasure’;

Psalm 139:1-3
O Lord, You have searched me and known me.
You know when I sit down and when I rise up;
You understand my thought from afar.
You scrutinize my path and my lying down,
And are intimately acquainted with all my ways.

1 Kings 8:39
then hear in heaven Your dwelling place, and forgive and act and render to each according to all his ways, whose heart You know, for You alone know the hearts of all the sons of men,

Acts 1:24
And they prayed and said, “You, Lord, who know the hearts of all men, show which one of these two You have chosen

2. The issue of free will is another scam.
If I told you, "Hey, don't go to school today, if you do I'll beat you to death. Is that free will?"
Christianity Etc › Re: The Book Of Bible Gaffes by jaephoenix(op): 9:57pm On Aug 24, 2023
cornelboy:
How did you not know this?
He who alleges must prove. You said Yahweh created something. How did u know it was created and also how do u know it was Yahweh that actually created it and not Allah or Thor
Christianity Etc › Re: The Book Of Bible Gaffes by jaephoenix(op): 9:55pm On Aug 24, 2023
cornelboy:
You have nothing to offer.
What good knowledge could come from someone that believes everything comes by chance. How could I trust your explanation that might have come by chance?
Well, actually you believe the same thing. You believe Yahweh came from chance too, since he wasn't created
Christianity Etc › Re: The Book Of Bible Gaffes by jaephoenix(op): 9:16pm On Aug 24, 2023
cornelboy:
Lol what's this?
The universe and everything was started by God. Your question is invalid.
How do you know this?
Christianity Etc › Re: The Book Of Bible Gaffes by jaephoenix(op): 9:15pm On Aug 24, 2023
cornelboy:
What's knowledge?
Merriam-Webster

1
a
(1)
: the fact or condition of knowing something with familiarity gained through experience or association
(2)
: acquaintance with or understanding of a science, art, or technique
b
(1)
: the fact or condition of being aware of something
(2)
: the range of one's information or understanding
answered to the best of my knowledge
c
: the circumstance or condition of apprehending truth or fact through reasoning : COGNITION
d
: the fact or condition of having information or of being learned


… and I wanna add, it means totality of all things, in this our context
Christianity Etc › Re: The Book Of Bible Gaffes by jaephoenix(op): 9:12pm On Aug 24, 2023
cornelboy:
Really? You are asking me these?
Why should the universe be here all along?
Your question is totally invalid.
Really? You are asking me these?
Why should the universe Yahweh be here all along?
Your question is totally invalid
Christianity Etc › Re: The Book Of Bible Gaffes by jaephoenix(op): 9:10pm On Aug 24, 2023
cornelboy:
Lol.
There was a day I was trying to explain to an atheist on Facebook that hell fire isn't real that hell is simply the grave. This guy started using the Bible to show me that it's real and he doesn't even believe in hell fire. He later started insulting me haha.
Just like I'm trying to explain the bible to you folks here and you still come up short.
Christianity Etc › Re: The Book Of Bible Gaffes by jaephoenix(op): 9:09pm On Aug 24, 2023
cornelboy:
None of the verses say God sees and knows everything happening spontaneously and continuously all at once.
God won't feed himself with the evil going on in the world today.
He's more concerned about his people and the kingdom.
Oh yes, they do. All the verses say Yahweh sees everything spontaneously and continuously.
Lemme oblige you and repost those verses again. Maybe you're dyslexic like your bro, Max. Maybe being a JW turns one dyslexic. Who knows.

Psalm 147:5
Great is our Lord and abundant in strength;
His understanding is infinite.

1 John 3:20
in whatever our heart condemns us; for God is greater than our heart and knows all things.

Psalm 139:4
Even before there is a word on my tongue,
Behold, O Lord, You know it all.

Matthew 10:30
But the very hairs of your head are all numbered.

Psalm 147:4
He counts the number of the stars;
He gives names to all of them.

Hebrews 4:13
And there is no creature hidden from His sight, but all things are open and laid bare to the eyes of Him with whom we have to do.


Psalm 139:1-4
O Lord, You have searched me and known me.
You know when I sit down and when I rise up;
You understand my thought from afar.
You scrutinize my path and my lying down,
And are intimately acquainted with all my ways.

Psalm 44:21
Would not God find this out?
For He knows the secrets of the heart.

1 Chronicles 28:9
“As for you, my son Solomon, know the God of your father, and serve Him with a whole heart and a willing mind; for the Lord searches all hearts, and understands every intent of the thoughts. If you seek Him, He will let you find Him; but if you forsake Him, He will reject you forever.

Isaiah 40:28
Do you not know? Have you not heard?
The Everlasting God, the Lord, the Creator of the ends of the earth
Does not become weary or tired.
His understanding is inscrutable.


Isaiah 46:9-10
“Remember the former things long past,
For I am God, and there is no other;
I am God, and there is no one like Me,
Declaring the end from the beginning,
And from ancient times things which have not been done
,
Saying, ‘My purpose will be established,
And I will accomplish all My good pleasure’;

Psalm 139:1-3
O Lord, You have searched me and known me.
You know when I sit down and when I rise up;
You understand my thought from afar.
You scrutinize my path and my lying down,
And are intimately acquainted with all my ways.

1 Kings 8:39
then hear in heaven Your dwelling place, and forgive and act and render to each according to all his ways, whose heart You know, for You alone know the hearts of all the sons of men,

Acts 1:24
And they prayed and said, “You, Lord, who know the hearts of all men, show which one of these two You have chosen

What does Psalms mean by His understanding is infinite. What do you understand by the word 'infinite'?

In 1st John, the verse stated Yahweh knows all things. It didn't say he knows only about his creations. Even the other Psalms says before you utter a word, Yahweh knows it all, from what you're about to say or do(everything). Your whole anatomy, the stars etc are all laid bare(as stated by the other verses). He even knows the secret of our hearts, said Psalms 44. In fact every of your actions is noted. In fact, in Isaiah, Yahweh himself(not any prophets) stated he knows the beginning of the world to the end. Even Isaiah 46:9-10 says he sees the future.
There is no limitations of his knowledge anywhere else. The only limitations comes from you and your gang with Max Da Maniac.
Its unfortunate its an atheist that should explain the bible to a theist like a JW. Yahweh must be shaking his head in bemusement.
Christianity Etc › Re: The Book Of Bible Gaffes by jaephoenix(op): 9:02pm On Aug 24, 2023
cornelboy:
Oh I see. Your reasoning is so low 🤦🏾‍♂️
Some supernatural being was here all along without beginning and he created us to dominate the earth. We are the works of his hands.

He's the source of everything. There have to be a source.

The universe, creation, nature and everything is far more bigger than your tiny brain. It's like comparing a drop of water to an Ocean.

You're here asking where he came from really?
When I say nothing can't come from nothing, I was talking about that universe and life. God is the source.
Cool. So Yahweh was here all along, right? So what stops the universe from being here all along? After all there is no evidence it was created
Christianity Etc › Re: The Book Of Bible Gaffes by jaephoenix(op): 7:49pm On Aug 24, 2023
MaxInDHouse:
Nowhere in all these verses is "OMNISCIENT" mentioned!

So you should know that something is wrong with your interpretation. smiley

Instead of quoting countless verses as directed by your white supremacists ATHEISTS do your own homework and pick just two or three you feel no believer can explain then present it and leave the rest to me.
Know that our understanding doesn't mean you must accept but a presentation of our own interpretation of what you quoted. smiley
Lol
1. Maybe you skipped kindergarten(which is highly possible considering your comprehension issues) but I learned the definition of omniscient. This is the definition
knowing everything
There was no mention of the words omnipotent or omnibenevolent in the bible. But you use those to attribute Yahweh don't you? Those words were later connotations that came up as language grew. They simply mean all powerful and all merciful, respectively. And those later 2 words all powerful and all merciful are replete in the Bible. Does it mean the words omnipotent and omnibenevolent are wrong? No.
Like I said, do your kindergarten. Learn Words and Synonyms and revert

2. Coming from a black man that receives his orders and instructions from 8 bald men in the US, this post of yours reeks of stupidity and ignorance at its finest.
And just so you know, there is no atheist Holy book or Bible. We get our morals from our conscience. No atheist would tell the other how to live his or her life, no matter how highly placed in the society he or she is. And definitely no atheist is a white supremacist. How you got that information, I wouldnt know. Maybe your Kingdom Hall pastor told you that just like they told you cholesterol is related to asthma and masturbators have mood swings. Lol
Christianity Etc › Re: The Book Of Bible Gaffes by jaephoenix(op): 6:39pm On Aug 24, 2023
MaxInDHouse:
Ọmọ you're misconstruing everything and it's obvious you don't want to know the truth.

No verse tells you God is omniscient, He knows everything about His own program from start to finish but as regards what human will choose to do regarding righteousness He doesn't know.

That's why He told them:

‘“As surely as I am alive,” declares the Sovereign Lord Jehovah, “I take no pleasure in the death of the wicked, but rather that someone wicked changes his way and keeps living. Turn back, turn back from your bad ways, for why should you die, O house of Israel?”’ Ezekiel 33:11

So man has the freewill to do good or evil just as Balaam did! smiley
Lemme oblige you and repost those verses again. Maybe you're dyslexic.

Psalm 147:5
Great is our Lord and abundant in strength;
His understanding is infinite.

1 John 3:20
in whatever our heart condemns us; for God is greater than our heart and knows all things.

Psalm 139:4
Even before there is a word on my tongue,
Behold, O Lord, You know it all.

Matthew 10:30
But the very hairs of your head are all numbered.

Psalm 147:4
He counts the number of the stars;
He gives names to all of them.

Hebrews 4:13
And there is no creature hidden from His sight, but all things are open and laid bare to the eyes of Him with whom we have to do.


Psalm 139:1-4
O Lord, You have searched me and known me.
You know when I sit down and when I rise up;
You understand my thought from afar.
You scrutinize my path and my lying down,
And are intimately acquainted with all my ways.

Psalm 44:21
Would not God find this out?
For He knows the secrets of the heart.

1 Chronicles 28:9
“As for you, my son Solomon, know the God of your father, and serve Him with a whole heart and a willing mind; for the Lord searches all hearts, and understands every intent of the thoughts. If you seek Him, He will let you find Him; but if you forsake Him, He will reject you forever.

Isaiah 40:28
Do you not know? Have you not heard?
The Everlasting God, the Lord, the Creator of the ends of the earth
Does not become weary or tired.
His understanding is inscrutable.


Isaiah 46:9-10
“Remember the former things long past,
For I am God, and there is no other;
I am God, and there is no one like Me,
Declaring the end from the beginning,
And from ancient times things which have not been done,
Saying, ‘My purpose will be established,
And I will accomplish all My good pleasure’;

Psalm 139:1-3
O Lord, You have searched me and known me.
You know when I sit down and when I rise up;
You understand my thought from afar.
You scrutinize my path and my lying down,
And are intimately acquainted with all my ways.

1 Kings 8:39
then hear in heaven Your dwelling place, and forgive and act and render to each according to all his ways, whose heart You know, for You alone know the hearts of all the sons of men,

Acts 1:24
And they prayed and said, “You, Lord, who know the hearts of all men, show which one of these two You have chosen

What does Psalms mean by His understanding is infinite. What do you understand by the word 'infinite'?

In 1st John, the verse stated Yahweh knows all things. It didn't say he knows only about his creations. Even the other Psalms says before you utter a word, Yahweh knows it all, from what you're about to say or do(everything). Your whole anatomy, the stars etc are all laid bare(as stated by the other verses). He even knows the secret of our hearts, said Psalms 44. In fact every of your actions is noted. In fact, in Isaiah, Yahweh himself(not any prophets) stated he knows the beginning of the world to the end.
There is no limitations of his knowledge anywhere else. The only limitations comes from you and your gang.
Its unfortunate its an atheist that should explain the bible to a theist like a JW. Yahweh must be shaking his head in bemusement.
Christianity Etc › Re: The Book Of Bible Gaffes by jaephoenix(op): 5:31pm On Aug 24, 2023
MaxInDHouse:
I have told him this countless times but he is stuck to the teachings of Christendom churches and that's what he wants to use in judging everyone who believes the Bible.

This is what God told Abraham about Sodom and Gomorrah:

“The outcry against Sodʹom and Go·morʹrah is indeed great, and their sin is very heavy. I will go down to see whether they are acting according to the outcry that has reached me. And if not, I can get to know it.” Genesis 18:20-21

About Abraham's faith God said:

“Do not harm the boy, and do not do anything at all to him, for now I do know that you are God-fearing because you have not withheld your son, your only one, from me" Genesis 22:12

From the two accounts does it show that God is what the churches of Christendom taught our friend?

But instead of him to rejoice that he has found the truth he is bitter!

WHY?

Because he's selfish so he wants decide what God should be and do exactly what he wants as long as God doesn't turn out as he expected he's not only satisfied with being an atheist but to stop everyone else from having faith in God! grin
Please read those bible passages I posted on Yahweh being omniscient. Thank you
Christianity Etc › Re: The Book Of Bible Gaffes by jaephoenix(op): 5:30pm On Aug 24, 2023
cornelboy:
Thank you.
And it seems very easy to be an atheist.
Every intelligence individual knows that there's a mastermind behind creation. Only the study of how our DNA work proves that. Even the nature surrounding us proves that.
Nothing can come out of nothing.
So if nothing can come out of nothing, where did Yahweh pop out from? angry
Christianity Etc › Re: The Book Of Bible Gaffes by jaephoenix(op): 5:29pm On Aug 24, 2023
cornelboy:
You are the ones saying he's omniscient and want him to be what you him to be. You can't control God.

If we are talking about general knowledge, he knows everything. He knows what the universe is made of, how everything happened, how life begin, what our bodies is made of, just name it.

But when it comes to our action, what will happen in the very next minute, he doesn't know.

For example I could be going down the street tonight and see a prostitute, take her somewhere and have s3x with her or I might just ignore her temptation and please Jehovah.
God doesn't know and control these outcomes but he wants his people to do the right thing.

Do you think he knew Adam would sin and yet he still went ahead to create him? He could have created programmed robots.
Look at Satan for example, he rebelled and cause so much chaos in the world today. God wouldn't have created him in the first place.

So created us and gave us the free will to choose between good and bad. He had hope in Adam but Adam failed.
He still has hope in us today till today.
That's why he will save the good people in the future and destroy bad people.

In a nutshell, God has the ability to know the future but he doesn't control the future. He can use the ability whenever he wants to but he doesn't use it spontaneously and continuously.
Did you read any of the verses I posted from the bible? Or you just wanna be like Max who ignores other posts and spews whatever rubbish his brain tells him?
Christianity Etc › Re: Proof Of God's Existence You Should Know by jaephoenix(m): 5:26pm On Aug 24, 2023
blogginguncle1:
Great, and thank you.
Can you post the salient points here. Many people including myself don't like clickbaits
Christianity Etc › Re: The Book Of Bible Gaffes by jaephoenix(op): 3:09pm On Aug 24, 2023
cornelboy:
Genesis 6:5-6 NLV
[5]The lord observed the extent of human wickedness on the earth, and he saw that everything they thought or imagined was consistently and totally evil.
[6]So the lord was sorry he had ever made them and put them on the earth. It broke his heart.

Genesis 18:20-22 NLV
[20]So the lord told Abraham, “I have heard a great outcry from Sodom and Gomorrah, because their sin is so flagrant.
[21]I am going down to see if their actions are as wicked as I have heard. If not, I want to know.”
[22]The other men turned and headed toward Sodom, but the lord remained with Abraham.

Do these sound to you that God knew everything all along?
He knows everything spontaneously all at once? No!

I was making a point the other time.
Do you think your trinity Gods feeds and enjoy themselves pleasurely with all the atrocities and immoralities happening at nightclubs around the world? You can't tell me he doesn't see and know that too.

My holy God certainly doesn't feed himself with all that.

He has the ability to know but only use it when he wants to.
So an omniscient god(who chooses when he would be omniscient) does not know that his creations would eventually be evil?
Interesting grin
Christianity Etc › Re: The Book Of Bible Gaffes by jaephoenix(op): 3:06pm On Aug 24, 2023
johnw47:
well girls, join you again later tonight
So you actually run when challenged? Interesting grin
Christianity Etc › Re: The Book Of Bible Gaffes by jaephoenix(op):
cornelboy:
Perhaps you only know how to use big grammars. You couldn't understand a simple sentence.

God has the power to know everything and he uses it when he wants to.

Take for example, when the people in Noah's day were committing a lot of atrocities, God wasn't aware until it was brought to his notice. He confirmed it, regretted he created them and punished them. You can go look for the chapter.

I was making a point that God doesn't constantly feeds himself with all the evils and atrocities going on in the world. He only cares for his people and watch over them and uses the power (of knowing everything) whenever it's needed.
In other words, he's still omniscient but chooses when to be omniscient?
Lol. Like I said, its truly hard being a theist but harder being a JW
Christianity Etc › Re: The Book Of Bible Gaffes by jaephoenix(op): 3:02pm On Aug 24, 2023
johnw47:
dope

i have already started kicking your bum, but you, like false jw's is to dum to see

by the way, you call cowardly and then run away for hours, funny
Unlike you that spend your life visiting threads which you cannot engage in, I have an offline job. Thank you
Christianity Etc › Re: The Book Of Bible Gaffes by jaephoenix(op): 3:00pm On Aug 24, 2023
cornelboy:
Do you believe in the trinity?
I thought your friend Max said its only churchgoers that derail threads. Please open your own thread on Trinidad and Tobago but face the topic on hand. Thank you
Christianity Etc › Re: The Book Of Bible Gaffes by jaephoenix(op): 2:00pm On Aug 24, 2023
johnw47:
dope

the revelance is, you think you said something clever, which you didn't, but winked anyway like a fool

oh duh dummy, small g is for a god, big G is for the God
you as dum as false jw's, never told you before because i though you were a man,
but you just another girly, aren't you
Ummm... Whats the difference between the small g and big g. Same thing if you ask me
Christianity Etc › Re: The Book Of Bible Gaffes by jaephoenix(op): 1:59pm On Aug 24, 2023
johnw47:
dummy corn boy

gee you dum aren't you, once again, to show up false jw lies and delusions of grandeur etc.

and now will kick a bit of atheist bum while i'm here
And how exactly do you intend to 'kick this atheist bum'? By keeping quiet? undecided
Christianity Etc › Re: The Book Of Bible Gaffes by jaephoenix(op): 1:58pm On Aug 24, 2023
johnw47:
hey dope, you say my not being interested in talking with atheist is being cowardly,
you are as deluded as false jw mad max, and of course false jw mad max agreed with you,
see how similar you two lost ones actually are
Ok, if say so
Christianity Etc › Re: The Book Of Bible Gaffes by jaephoenix(op): 1:57pm On Aug 24, 2023
cornelboy:
I certainly know my God doesn't feed his eyes with the atrocities committed in the world today.
Imagine an holy God seeing and knowing all the things going on all over the night clubs in the world.

My point is GOD can know anything whenever he wants to know.
In trying to avoid a pitfall, you ended up running into a dam.
Can you explain what the bolded means? Doesn't it still point to an all knowing being?
Besides, you carefully ignored the Bible passages which clearly depicted your god as all knowing.
Being a JW is truly a hard business. Lol grin
Christianity Etc › Re: The Book Of Bible Gaffes by jaephoenix(op): 1:54pm On Aug 24, 2023
MaxInDHouse:
OK Sir! grin
Were you born a JW?
Christianity Etc › Re: The Book Of Bible Gaffes by jaephoenix(op): 11:47am On Aug 24, 2023
MaxInDHouse:
The atheist has tried to engage him only for him to shy away from the discussion and keep quoting me as if nah me collect him bread! cheesy
Your own is even worse. You talked rubbish anf ran off. His own issue is he's too cowardly but you're an ignorant megalomaniac
Christianity Etc › Re: The Book Of Bible Gaffes by jaephoenix(op): 11:44am On Aug 24, 2023
MaxInDHouse:
They're agitating against the religion brought by white supremacists but they carry their language as the greatest treasure they can achieve.
Imagine Wole Soyinka, all he had in life is what the whiteman's language could offer yet he wants to rubbish their religion by going back to what they brought in exchange of the religion: ATHEISM. cheesy
Everyone was born an atheist til someone starts telling lies…
Christianity Etc › Re: The Book Of Bible Gaffes by jaephoenix(op): 11:43am On Aug 24, 2023
cornelboy:
Where did God ever say he knows everything or call himself omniscient?
Perhaps he has the power to know and see everything and came to Balaam to have a normal conversation.
That's strange. I thought its only JWs that agree Yahweh isn't omniscient. Pray what's your denomination?
By the way, here's passages Yahweh said he's omniscient…


Psalm 147:5
Great is our Lord and abundant in strength;
His understanding is infinite.

1 John 3:20
in whatever our heart condemns us; for God is greater than our heart and knows all things.

Psalm 139:4
Even before there is a word on my tongue,
Behold, O Lord, You know it all.

Matthew 10:30
But the very hairs of your head are all numbered.

Psalm 147:4
He counts the number of the stars;
He gives names to all of them.

Hebrews 4:13
And there is no creature hidden from His sight, but all things are open and laid bare to the eyes of Him with whom we have to do.


Psalm 139:1-4
O Lord, You have searched me and known me.
You know when I sit down and when I rise up;
You understand my thought from afar.
You scrutinize my path and my lying down,
And are intimately acquainted with all my ways.

Psalm 44:21
Would not God find this out?
For He knows the secrets of the heart.

1 Chronicles 28:9
“As for you, my son Solomon, know the God of your father, and serve Him with a whole heart and a willing mind; for the Lord searches all hearts, and understands every intent of the thoughts. If you seek Him, He will let you find Him; but if you forsake Him, He will reject you forever.

Isaiah 40:28
Do you not know? Have you not heard?
The Everlasting God, the Lord, the Creator of the ends of the earth
Does not become weary or tired.
His understanding is inscrutable.


Isaiah 46:9-10
“Remember the former things long past,
For I am God, and there is no other;
I am God, and there is no one like Me,
Declaring the end from the beginning,
And from ancient times things which have not been done,
Saying, ‘My purpose will be established,
And I will accomplish all My good pleasure’;

Psalm 139:1-3
O Lord, You have searched me and known me.
You know when I sit down and when I rise up;
You understand my thought from afar.
You scrutinize my path and my lying down,
And are intimately acquainted with all my ways.

1 Kings 8:39
then hear in heaven Your dwelling place, and forgive and act and render to each according to all his ways, whose heart You know, for You alone know the hearts of all the sons of men,

Acts 1:24
And they prayed and said, “You, Lord, who know the hearts of all men, show which one of these two You have chosen


Besides you guys sing and dance about his all knowing powers
Christianity Etc › Re: The Book Of Bible Gaffes by jaephoenix(op): 11:18am On Aug 24, 2023
MaxInDHouse:
I gave him the valid response any honest hearted inquisitor will love to hear but because he's determined to rubbish God's word that it's meaningless that's what made him really mad as i quoted Jesus telling us the evil hidden in Balaam's heart which he later carried out.


This is exactly what the atheist expected from you people so that he tell you how hopeless your faith is in a mysterious being that's unpredictable.
Well that's the difference between you people and Jehovah's Witnesses, we are the Witnesses of our own God sent to prove that our God is not a monster whose actions can't be understood.
Abraham is our father {Romans 4:11} he questioned his God for going to destroy a whole city where faithful people could be found in the midst of evildoers:
“Will you really sweep away the righteous with the wicked? ....... It is unthinkable that you would act in this manner by putting the righteous man to death with the wicked one so that the outcome for the righteous man and the wicked is the same! It is unthinkable of you. Will the Judge of all the earth not do what is right?” Genesis 18:23-25

Note the highlighted in red!
Abraham argued with the true God that he shouldn't do what is unexplainable meaning a worshiper of the God of Abraham should be able to explain to worshipers of other Gods whatever his God does. That's the one and only difference between the God of Abraham and all other Gods that you can't vouch for!

Well Balaam changed his strategy that's the evil he did! smiley
When you can read and write, we can converse. Til then, go back to kindergarten
Christianity Etc › Re: The Book Of Bible Gaffes by jaephoenix(op): 11:16am On Aug 24, 2023
preciousee17:
I don't know if I'm wicked, but I feel so happy that Max has been avoiding a valid response...

I'm not forcing you to believe, neither am I making much effort to convince you.

But our God hates the love of money.
1. Ask God for something (of worldly pleasure) too much, even after He has said no, and He'll use that thing to destroy you. Ask the Children of Israel how they managed to receive poisoned meat from their God.

2. Not everytime God gives a response, that you'll say God said it with His voice. Most times it's Angels responding, or the Holy Spirit or Jesus. Truly, God hardly speaks directly. I've forgotten the name, but a certain King inquired of the Lord before going into battle, all the prophets said God had promised victory — except one man. It is later revealed that God had allowed the prophets to receive a lying spirit that gave out that false prophecy.

For me, God already told Balaam that he should not curse those people.
Balaam, out of greed because of more 'money' decided to to ask God again so that perhaps, he could curse them and enjoy the money in peace (God had already said His mind).
God decided to destroy Balaam because of the greed... Actually the plan was for Balaam to go and bless those people, instead of curse them.
But as complex as my God is, He still had to point out that death/destruction is the penalty for greed.
Now someone with some brain has replied. Hallelujah!
1. Did you read anywhere in that passage that Balaam enquired anything from Yahweh? Nope. In fact, it was Yahweh that was doing the enquiries.

9 God came to balaam and asked, “Who are these men with you?”
10 balaam said to God, “Balak son of Zippor, king of Moab, sent me this message: 11 ‘A people that has come out of Egypt covers the face of the land. Now come and put a curse on them for me. Perhaps then I will be able to fight them and drive them away.’”
12 But God said to balaam, “Do not go with them. You must not put a curse on those people, because they are blessed.”


… and this

20 That night God came to balaam and said, “Since these men have come to summon you, go with them, but do only what I tell you.”

On the first occasion he was asking Balaam who the men are and he(Balaam) explained to Yahweh.
On the second occasion(when the men came back with more stuff), Yahweh told Balaam what to do, which he did.
AT NO POINT DID BALAAM DISOBEY YAHWEH OR EVEN EXPRESS GREED. HE TOLD THEM AB INITIO THAT HE WONT CURSE ISRAEL.

2. How come an omniscient god doesn't know the future(he doesn't know who men were and he didn't even know that they were coming back)

3. How come he wanted to destroy Balaam for obeying him?

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