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Dtruthspeaker:
I believe your people have finished mapping out the brain, yet they did not find that elusive 6th sense.

But o, antiGod can not accept the alternative.

There's no 6th sense. Its pseudoscientific

Dtruthspeaker:
Why do you ask patients "how do you feel/what is wrong with you?"
Why don't you connect your machines to a person and then say to them "you have food poisoning, typhoid, malaria and syphilis."

In making a diagnosis, you need subjective(patient) input and objective(investigations like labs, radio etc) inputs.
I don't understand how this particularly impacts on our discourse

LordReed:
You said clairvoyance and telepathy are nothing spiritual so I want to know if you have any evidence that these are actual phenomena. If you don't have just say you don't have, it's not an attempt to argue or anything of the sort.

I don't know who Athos Salomé is. Nostradamus' writings are only interpreted retrospectively. If you have his writings tell us one thing he predicted that is yet to occur so we can keep it in view.

He's a psychic

Dtruthspeaker:
Now you prove that you just love lying for everyone experiences out of body experience. That is one of the jolts life gives to people to remind them that they are not in charge of it as they think and wish. So, keep your delusions.

Are you Usually this dumb in real life? I just told you I haven't experienced out of body experience and you still insist that I have experienced it. Do you live inside me? If you don't believe me, take a poll on Nairaland and see how many people would tell you they have experienced it

FRANCISTOWN:
When did I ever say it is anything magical?don't you guys read before you post comments?

I just added it. But long and short is that sixth sense isn't scientifically correct

Dtruthspeaker:
Why are you guys so full of shit? Do we not know our memories again? How many times have we had dreams of things we have never experienced or seen before?

Who has not experienced what is called out of body experience?

The bottom line is that you are exercising your power to delude yourself like Obi's followers saying that Tinubu is not the president.

No, I haven't experienced out of body experiences.
And yes, people on psychedelic drugs/herbs do experience them. Doesn't make them real or spiritual. Its just part of your brain doing stuff under influence of the drugs. Also people who claim to do so, may be lying since til now, nobody has ever proven to actually move out of their bodies.
Again bro. Pity yourself and stay out of scientific arguments. You don't have the arsenal for it

Image123:
In that case, it was probably none of your business. Go and read your Bible if you insist.

Lol. This deflection is world class. Lemme leave you alone.
Next time don't quote fairy tales during serious scientific discourse. Thank you

Image123:
i did not say that they were the same, did i? FOCUS. They both have room for failure. Failure does not mean that any should be dismissed.

Right. Lemme ask you a question.
Can you fly with wings? Yes or no

Image123:
Science, physical processes, clinical surgeries, stocks and trade all fail. Their failure doesn't make them useless or meaningless. Saying some dreams fail,hence dismiss all dreams is fallacious. Get the simple one line point into your head before roaming around aimlessly.

The difference is this.
In science and medicine, they have been studied and we have high success rates. Lemme give example, if I give ACT for 10 patients and only 1 gets cured of malaria, then its deemed failure. And there would be research on why there was treatment failure, better drugs would be researched on to take the place of ACT. That's science.
Another example, if I do appendectomy on a patient with suspected acute appendicitis, and he reports 1 month later with right iliac fossa tenderness. That's a treatment failure. And the patient is re-investigated til a final diagnosis is made. If a diagnosis isn't made, he is referred to a higher center.
Notice in these scenarios, there are procedures and due processes.
If I had a dream and it never comes to pass, what do I do? Is there a mechanism to determine why the dream didn’t come true?
If I keep on dreaming thousands of dreams and only one comes true, would I say dreams come true? Compare it to if I keep on treating 1000 salmonellosis cases with quinolones, and only one gets treated.

Image123:
Ask the person that i sent, reed.

Why are you reflecting? Reed doesn't believe in the stories on your buybull. Please answer the question , or simply say you don't know

MaxInDHouse:
Bible is not yours yet you spent the whole day and night talking about what is written in it.

Ọmọ you're really really dumb o!

Same way you spend days and night over it.
Meanwhile this evasion tactics won't work again.
Again did you do Words and Synonyms in Kindergarten?

johnw47:
most dum and no test-is for truth, atheist

i showed your blindness in my post, i showed that you were wrong, what else was there to reply to,
see how dum you are, you as dum as false jw's

1Co 14:33  For God is not the author of confusion, but of peace, as in all churches of the saints


why would i want to chat with a dum atheist as yourself, u r as puffed up as mad max thinking
you are clever when it can be seen just how big a dope you are

Ok. Noted

Dtruthspeaker:
You be serpent true true. People flinch for nothing abi? Or people just sleep and wish to dream nightmares abi? Your lies never end

People dream due to contents of their memory. There's nothing spiritual about it.

Image123:
And what does not fail again? Do physical processes not fail? Do clinical surgeries not fail? Do stocks and trade not fail? Ever heard of accidents? What cannot be wrong? Science and whatever else you worship is wrong and fails woefully every other day so what criteria are you on about?

According to science, bringing hydrogen and oxygen together gives water. Has it proven wrong?
Oh I worship science. At least it provided vaccines that has kept me alive, and cars that helped me move around. Even though it has provided bad stuff, the good stuff outweighs the bad.
Name one thing, this your religion has done for you?

Image123:
If it helps you, why not?

Ok. So what did Joseph etc tell you, bro?

FRANCISTOWN:
I didn't just manufacture this from thin air. I read to this extent.

"In the 19s, a Professor at Duke University, Dr. Banks lead a research. And thru that research it was discovered that every human on earth has something called the 6th sense otherwise known as "extra sensory" mode of perception."


Well, that was according to a scientific research which was carried out by a group of researchers lead by Professor Banks of Duke University in the 19s , as reported and authored by E. Lt. Wright in Harpers Magazine.

I read about that some fifteen years ago.

You've not lead any research on the topic, so, I guess it's more appropriate to balance your views.

My explanation addressed the reason some dreams, prophecies and visions come to pass and how it has nothing to do with spiritualism or spiritism.

We can't deny that some predictions do come to pass(even in bettings such as lotto, and pool, etc). We should be able to explain that logically.


My final submission stated clearly that dreams, visions, clairvoyance and telepathy are mere predictions and should not be taken seriously by any serious person.

I even used Nostradamus, one of the fathers of predictions as a perfect example, so, I guess you didn't understand what I was trying to say or maybe I wasn't clear enough

Some predictions do come through of course. If not, how would people win Naijabet. But they are predictions based on experiences and data from previous matches, leading to one to make a logical conclusion. And of course, they can fail since matches throw up unexpected results leading to loss of bets. Can you say your predictions are always correct? No. Can one base his or her betting on your predictions? No. That is how the law of averages work. You win some, you lose some.
About the sixth sense research, it hasn't been scientifically proven. Its speculation and theory but wasn't proven.
This is what I gathered from LiveScience,
The new study, detailed Monday (Jan. 13) in the journal PLOS ONE, found that what people perceive as a sixth sense may simply be their vision systems detecting changes they can't articulate.

"People can sense things that they believe they cannot see," such as changes in a person's appearance, said study co-author Piers Howe, a vision scientist at the University of Melbourne in Australia. "But this isn't anything magical or a sixth sense; this can be explained in terms of known visual processing."
https://www.livescience.com/42635-esp-sixth-sense-just-vision.html

Dtruthspeaker:
That is just bullshit. Your machines are only reading the physical responses going on in a person and that is all they are doing. It is only the person who can explain his experience. And ofcourse there are dreams and there are dreams.

So what 'machines' are you using? And how do you calibrate and use them?

FRANCISTOWN:
This is what I honestly think about dream.

In the 19s, a Professor at Duke University, Dr. Banks did a research. And thru that research it was discovered that every human on earth has something called the 6th sense otherwise known as "extra sensory" mode of perception.

To be put simply, let's call it instinct.

The research resolved that this 6th sense is located somewhere at the centre of the human brain, but no one has been able to state exactly where it is, or what it is. Stay with me.

So basically what does this "extra sensory". It's responsible for clairvoyance and telepathy.

That's why some people leave a certain place before bad things occur and when you ask them, they'll say they just felt like or their mind spoke to them.

Gamblers also use this 6th sense in card selection and in reading their opponents' mind.

However, just like some people have very sharp taste bud or very good eyesight. This sixth sense is also very active in some people as opposed to others.

Let's make this point 1.

Its gut feeling, and gut feeling can be wrong too. Many times . Aint nothing like 'sixth sense'(its an psedoscientific term). The gamblers instinct also fails them woefully. And this has nothing to do with people with sharp taste buds also known as hypergustatory folks. In this case, their brains which is used for tasting processes tastes better. Same as people that have good vision

Image123:
Lolz, tell this joke and fable to Joseph, Pharaoh, Daniel and Nebuchadnezzar. After that, discuss it with Joseph the husband of Mary. Ignorance on a raised power.

How about talking to Spiderman and Thor. They may have an idea about dreams

Dtruthspeaker:
Yet when they touch you for dream you jerk like person wet electricity shock. And for some dem dey throw blow for air as dem dey sleep.

Anyway, you be liar before so I no expect say your talk to dey completely True.

It's all part of the dream complex. Some prefrontal cortex which controls those part of the dream assumes they are real and activate the corticospinal tracts.
I have told you to stay away from scientific and philosophical discourses. You just don't have the mental capacities for them

FRANCISTOWN:
There is a branch of philosophy that supports something called "Hard Determinism", though several philosophers are against it.

That's basically "Cause and Effect".

Simply put, it means every event in this world must have had a cause. For instance, I'm in this thread because you mentioned me, you mentioned me because you crested a thread, you were able to create a thread because there is NL, there is NL because there is the internet.

Now when NL was hosted online several years ago, that "cause" already had this "effect"(me commenting on this thread) in it, that same year.

To every action there is a predetermined/expected effect.(Law of Natural consequences)

Let's make this point 2.

Dreams occur from our brain. Its a connection of synapses between the prefrontal cortex, hypothalamus, hippocampus and probably the limbic system. They utilize our memory and conjur stuff. For example, you watched horror movies. Your prefrontal which handles memory with influence from other centers, serve up a horror themed dream which seemed real. Now if you're someone that don't believe that stuff that happen in horror movies are real(like me), watching such movies won't throw up horrible nightmares since my subconscious mind tells my cortex that they aren't real. And thus I dont have nightmares. My wife would watch the same horror flick and have nightmares.
Dreams coming true sometimes may be a phenomenon known as deja vu.
Also don't ignore chances of luck or coincidences happening

jesusjnr2020:
LGBTQ+ Church Gets Completely Burnt Down By Lightning Strike (Photos And Video)

Could this be a mere coincidence or another stark reminder of Sodom and Gomorrah?

Video:

https://youtube.com/shorts/V4bRSQqv5p4?si=pQ51o85gp0iIsZE8

https://www.snopes.com/news/2023/06/07/church-lightning-burn-lgbtq/

https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2023/jun/3/160-year-old-church-280-year-old-massachusetts-con/

Lies. No such thing happened.
https://apnews.com/article/fact-check-church-fire-massachusetts-lgbt-wedding-lightning-938759169005

Also I guess churches that got struck by lightning like this one…
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.fox5atlanta.com/news/lightning-strikes-jonesboro-iglesia-de-dios-church-severe-storm.amp

… were conducting gay marriages too

One thing I realize about Christianity and theism at large is the paradoxical tendency to propagate their religion via lies. From the lies in the Bible, to the even that happened in Brazil etc. The Brazilian lie was so obvious but it still didn't stop the cretarded Christians from touting the incident as Yahweh's wrath.
Why should a religion that abhors lies spread itself through lies? Can someone answer?

johnw47:
oh duh, dum atheist dope

i sometimes post to false jw's and you atheists to show up the lies, like i have said many times



Ecc_7:6  For as the crackling of thorn bushes under a pot, So is the laughter of the fool


gee you so dum, aren't you

as i already said blinded dum dum: to prove and strengthen his faith:

2 Corinthians 4:4
In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them


see how you atheist dopes and false jw's have things in common:

dumbness and denying Almighty Jehovah

Lol. You won't engage me but you'll engage your fellow dumb JW theists. You know you'll run outta Nairaland if you try me. You just don't have that mental capacity.
Anyway, ciao.

MaxInDHouse:
So you pick what you want to believe in the Bible while i too pick mine no wahala!

Lol. And you keep on reinforcing the believe that your own buybull(not mine) is indeed filled with gaffes. Cutting off your nose to spite your face.
Lol. JWs are [b]Max[/b]imally dumb

johnw47:
Gen 18:20  And the LORD said, "The outcry of Sodom and Gomorrah is indeed great, and their sin is exceedingly grave. 
Gen 18:21  "I will go down now, and see if they have done entirely according to its outcry, which has come to Me; and if not, I will know." 

Gen 22:12  He said, "Do not stretch out your hand against the lad, and do nothing to him; for now I know that you fear God, since you have not withheld your son, your only son, from Me."



Jehovah of course knew that the sin against sodom and gomorrah was exceedingly grave, He said so before hand, and wanted to see first hand Himself before destroying them

Jehovah of course knew before hand that abraham was God fearing and would even sacrifice his son if Jehovah said to,
Jehovah tested abraham to prove and strenghen his faith, it was for abraham's benefit not because Jehovah didn't know


but you false jw's believe Jehovah doesn't know things before hand, and you false jw don't believe Almighty Jehovah is all mighty etc. etc.

you so called Jehovah's witnesses are the great, Jehovah deniers
imagine a so called Jehovah's witness teaching that Jehovah is not all knowing, is not all powerful, what followers of the devil you are:

Joh 8:44 You are of your father the devil, and you want to do the desires of your father. He was a murderer from the beginning, and does not stand in the truth because there is no truth in him. Whenever he speaks a lie, that is his natural way of speaking, for he is a liar and the father of lies.

I thought u said you won't engage JWs or atheists? What happened?
Now you have jumped in and yarned complete rubbish. So the trial of Abraham killing his son is for Abraham's benefit? How? Lol!

Aemmyjah:
Sometimes when you give them an answer, that is when their brain stop comprehending what they read

Obviously you just jumped in, dummy. Read this thread from the beginning. Its about how the buybull is crappy, and you guys just shot yourself in the foot by reiterating the fact, that its indeed crappy

MaxInDHouse:
How many times do i have to quote Him?

OK i will do it again so as to show you your folly!

Then Jehovah said: “The outcry against Sodʹom and Go·morʹrah is indeed great, and their sin is very heavy. I will go down to see whether they are acting according to the outcry that has reached me. And if not, I can get to know it." Genesis 18:20-21

“Do not harm the boy, and do not do anything at all to him, for now I do know that you are God-fearing because you have not withheld your son, your only one, from me.” Genesis 22:12

Now use your brain to reason well if your Omni stuff fit in to the description of the one speaking in those verses!

Lol. The joke's on you.
If you read through my first post, I posted all these same verses you quoted, describing how the Buybull is contradictory. The same buybull said Yahweh is all knowing, didn't it? Abi you cherrypick the ones wey u go take?
Lol! These JWs are dumber than wet stones

cornelboy:
Lol was this my last comment to your last post?

Seems you woke up at the wrong side of the bed today. Open your eyes and check my last comment.

Your last comment was 'perfect'. Thats a phrase that doesn't convey any meaning

MaxInDHouse:
Did God Himself said these things or his servants?

That's what you're missing because the all knowing/loving/powerful is within what they know not what God said about Himself.

I have quoted what God Himself said but you keep dodging the fact so continue crying for all i care!

Please quote what Yahweh said

Uncletony:
Am not talking about Christianity either.

So what exactly are you saying

MightySparrow:
https://youtube.com/shorts/m--GepObxPs?feature=share

A testimony of over 50years. The evidence is life. Same is mine.

So personal testimony without proof is evidence?

MaxInDHouse:
Omni stuffs doesn't appear in the Bible so it's your pastors that infused such applications in your brains and now that you've come to face reality you're dodging the fact that it doesn't appear in any Bible!

I ask again. Did you skip kindergarten?