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MaxInDHouse:
Below is your runaway end-of-comments as you don't know how to answer the atheist.



So instead of throwing tantrums why not learn from real disciples of Christ how to maintain calmness in scriptural topics? 1Peter 3:15

I skillfully humbled the atheist using choicest of words to calm his nerves and after he has tendered an apology i gave him the answer he seek. All of you can learn from the way and manner i handled his case.

I'm sure you guys will always remember me when i stop commenting on this forum, until then i have proved to all of you this day that the book Bible with it's 66 little books, 1189 chapters and 31,200 verses were written by Jehovah's Witnesses and only Jehovah's Witnesses can fish out answers to all the questions you may raise in our book, your book, God's word: The Holy Bible!

May you have PEACE!

The problem is you know nothing. From making nonsense of an explanation for an event, to stating masturbators have mood swings. And in your twisted mind, you made sense.
This decisions of grandeur is getting serious. You need a good psychiatrist to shrink your brain. I'm serious, no cap.
Btw, my apology was for the long initial post which I tendered to everyone here, and not to your overbloated ego. You can twist it any way you like. I'm a humble person, not a grandiose nutjob like you

MaxInDHouse:
Below is your apology showing you've got my point that i'm not here to throw tantrums or argue aimlessly but to set matters straight picking few points.



So if you suddenly turned abusive while reading my comments regarding what you asked then it means something is wrong somewhere. How can you tender an apology and afterwards there has been calmness on the thread as all the followers are watching to see how our friendly conversation goes then you suddenly got provoked instead of pointing out what else you want to know?

Ọmọ if you have anything tangible to say i'm in but if it's getting on your nerves there's no need to continue the discussion! Proverbs 17:14

Lol. You really are a fruity job. These JWs did a number on your brain. Religion truly is dangerous. Reason why a whole group of people can follow someone to commit suicide, like Jim Jones etc.
If you cannot read and comprehend a passage, then its not my problem. Someone gave you a passage about an event, you interpreted it with some nonsense that is completely irrelevant to the matter.

MaxInDHouse:
I tried to check your profile now and found this:



Please masturbators often suffer mood swings.
Try to stop it in order to be consistent in whatever you want to do and maintain your calmness. This is life nobody is answerable to you so when people come to chat with you due to what you want to know they're not your enemies rather they're here to rub minds with you.

Until you get yourself together again farewell!

Lol. So Dr. Max where did you read that masturbators suffer mood swings? Or is it one of your Kingdom Hall medical classes that they taught you that? At least masturbation is better than child molestation(which you guys are specialist at), don't you think?
By the way, you have been throwing insults my way since, I have been ignoring. I gave you a bit of your own medicine and you're foaming rubbish from your mouth

MaxInDHouse:
Na wah o!

Someone asked why God suddenly got annoyed with the false prophet and i showed you in the same book (Bible)

Neither you nor myself wrote any part of that book, the difference between you and i is that i was trained by the real BORN AGAIN brothers of Christ chosen to feed God's people this endtime {Matthew 24:45} so when i told you we know all 66 books, 1189 chapters and 31,200 verses so we can connect it all to teach whoever is willing to learn.

So if you're not happy that i have helped you to solved the riddle just tell me and i will take my leave but know today that Jehovah's Witnesses have all the answers you need in our book, your book, God's word the Holy Bible.

Thanks for your time and may you have PEACE!

Again, read Numbers 22 and point out where Balaam disobeyed Yahweh's instructions. Leave what happened in Revelations, its not related to the Yahweh-Balaam interactions because Balaam did exactly what Yahweh wanted and nearly got killed for it. Please can someone with a brain explain this to Max

MaxInDHouse:
Balaam knew Jehovah very well that He's a faithful God ever protective towards His faithful worshipers so Balaam adviced Balak to use Moabite girls against the worshipers of Jehovah so that the angel protecting them can leave the camp. That's what made Jehovah Himself turn against Israelites to afflict them with pestilence. Exodus 34:16 compare to Deuteronomy 7:4

Oh!
You asked for where it's recorded that Balaam changed his strategy so open to the Bible book of Revelations:

“‘Nevertheless, I have a few things against you, that you have there those adhering to the teaching of Baʹlaam, who TAUGHT Baʹlak to put a stumbling block before the sons of Israel, to eat things sacrificed to idols and to commit sexual immorality" Revelations 2:14

This is what was missing in Moses's account of that story Jesus (Archangel Michael) later reveal to apostle John. Remember i told you that he was the angel representing Jehovah {Exodus 13:21 compare to Exodus 14:19} in the camp of God's people as a protective shield {Daniel 12:1} Moses only discovered that many among Israelites young men started sleeping with Moabite women following them to worship their Gods that's all he knew back then!

Max are you sure you don't have some loose screws upstairs?
I’m seriously asking cos you don't sound coherent. This is beyond poor comprehension skills.
NOW FOR THE LAST TIME, CAN YOU POINT OUT IN THIS BIBLE PASSAGE WHERE BALAAM DISOBEYED YAHWEH

MaxInDHouse:
He changed his strategy that's why God got angry with him. He stopped thinking about how to curse the Israelites then went ahead to give the king an advice to lure the Israelites into committing fornication!

Please can you point out where Balaam changed his strategy or even went against Yahweh?
Thank you

Lemme make it easy for you…

20 That night God came to balaam and said, “Since these men have come to summon you, go with them, but do only what I tell you.”

balaam’s Donkey
21 balaam got up in the morning, saddled his donkey and went with the Moabite officials. 22 But God was very angry when he went, and the angel of the Lord stood in the road to oppose him
balaam was riding on his donkey, and his two servants were with him. 23 When the donkey saw the angel of the Lord standing in the road with a drawn sword in his hand, it turned off the road into a field. balaam beat it to get it back on the road.

32 The angel of the Lord asked him, “Why have you beaten your donkey these three times? I have come here to oppose you because your path is a reckless one before me.[a] 33 The donkey saw me and turned away from me these three times. If it had not turned away, I would certainly have killed you by now, but I would have spared it.”

I have highlighted the challenging parts in case you have comprehension issues.
Now read and explain what you can understand

MaxInDHouse:
[1] Balaam is not a prophet of Jehovah but a sorcerer who feared the true God so when God told him not to go it was because Balaam's life is in danger.
An angel (most suspected to be Michael) is with the Israelites so whoever lay a curse on God's people will be killed by the angel of God leading the camp of Israel {Exodus 14:19} but after they have paid him Jehovah asked him to go but it's only what Jehovah puts in Balaam's mouth that he must say.

[2] Balaam changed his mind and look for another means of cursing the Israelites that's why God sent the angel to destroy him. He taught the king to select attractive young girls and pay them to seduce Israelite men into committing fornication and worshiping their idols that's what led to the death of 23,000 Israelites.

[3] You're citing the same case here Balaam can go with the enemies of Israel but he must not speak a word unless what Jehovah put in his mouth.

[4] it's better we leave the talking donkey out of our discussion since you find it absorb even though i believe every single word found in the Bible.

With this response, I believe you haven't read that chapter, even though I posted it here. Please I beg, do read it, and then glance through my questions. Thank you

MaxInDHouse:
Please try to be more relaxed and instead of quoting the long story just pick the point you want me to address.
As a member of Jehovah's Witnesses we know all the stories in our book (Bible) it's written by forty different men, it contains 66 books 39 in the Old Testament and 27 in the New Testament, all containing 1189 Chapters and 31,200 verses.

So don't quote the words just cite it and tell me the point you want us to address.

Thanks!

Okay.
1. Yahweh originally told balaam not to go with them, but changed his mind and told him to go with them when they sent more goodies. Is he getting bribed or what?
2. Now when balaam obeyed him and went with them, he sent an angel to kill him, even though poor balaam was adhering to his instructions
3. After threatening balaam that he would have killed him if not for the donkey, he still went ahead to tell him to continue on the journey
4. I don't want to talk about the talking donkey ( that's some hardcore Shrek moves ) that's for another day.

I know JWs dont believe that Yahweh is omniscient, so strike off the first question. Leave it for the other theists. Thank you

Numbers 22(part 2)
24 Then the angel of the Lord stood in a narrow path through the vineyards, with walls on both sides.
25 When the donkey saw the angel of the Lord, it pressed close to the wall, crushing balaam’s foot against it. So he beat the donkey again.

26 Then the angel of the Lord moved on ahead and stood in a narrow place where there was no room to turn, either to the right or to the left. 27 When the donkey saw the angel of the Lord, it lay down under balaam, and he was angry and beat it with his staff. 28 Then the Lord opened the donkey’s mouth, and it said to balaam, “What have I done to you to make you beat me these three times?”

29 balaam answered the donkey, “You have made a fool of me! If only I had a sword in my hand, I would kill you right now.”

30 The donkey said to balaam, “Am I not your own donkey, which you have always ridden, to this day? Have I been in the habit of doing this to you?”

“No,” he said.

31 Then the Lord opened balaam’s eyes, and he saw the angel of the Lord standing in the road with his sword drawn. So he bowed low and fell facedown.

32 The angel of the Lord asked him, “Why have you beaten your donkey these three times? I have come here to oppose you because your path is a reckless one before me.[a] 33 The donkey saw me and turned away from me these three times. If it had not turned away, I would certainly have killed you by now, but I would have spared it.”

34 balaam said to the angel of the Lord, “I have sinned. I did not realize you were standing in the road to oppose me. Now if you are displeased, I will go back.”

35 The angel of the Lord said to balaam, “Go with the men, but speak only what I tell you.” So balaam went with Balak’s officials.

36 When Balak heard that balaam was coming, he went out to meet him at the Moabite town on the Arnon border, at the edge of his territory. 37 Balak said to balaam, “Did I not send you an urgent summons? Why didn’t you come to me? Am I really not able to reward you?”

38 “Well, I have come to you now,” balaam replied. “But I can’t say whatever I please. I must speak only what God puts in my mouth.”

39 Then balaam went with Balak to Kiriath Huzoth. 40 Balak sacrificed cattle and sheep, and gave some to balaam and the officials who were with him. 41 The next morning Balak took balaam up to Bamoth Baal, and from there he could see the outskirts of the Israelite camp.

Now, reading the above passage as a fresher should have one scratching his head.
1. An omniscient god was asking a mortal he created who the other mortals are. As an omniscient god, he would have told balaam that some officials would visit him in some days, and told him what he would tell them as reply.
2. Not only that, he originally told balaam not to go with them, but changed his mind and told him to go with them when they sent more goodies
3. Now when balaam obeyed him and went with them, he sent an angel to kill him, even though poor balaam was adhering to his instructions
4. After threatening balaam that he would have killed him if not for the donkey, he still went ahead to tell him to continue on the journey
5. I don't want to talk about the talking donkey ( that's some hardcore Shrek moves ) that's for another day.

Numbers 22(part 1)

1 Then the Israelites traveled to the plains of Moab and camped along the Jordan across from Jericho.

2 Now Balak son of Zippor saw all that Israel had done to the Amorites, 3 and Moab was terrified because there were so many people. Indeed, Moab was filled with dread because of the Israelites.

4 The Moabites said to the elders of Midian, “This horde is going to lick up everything around us, as an ox licks up the grass of the field.”

So Balak son of Zippor, who was king of Moab at that time, 5 sent messengers to summon balaam son of Beor, who was at Pethor, near the Euphrates River, in his native land. Balak said:

“A people has come out of Egypt; they cover the face of the land and have settled next to me. 6 Now come and put a curse on these people, because they are too powerful for me. Perhaps then I will be able to defeat them and drive them out of the land. For I know that whoever you bless is blessed, and whoever you curse is cursed.”

7 The elders of Moab and Midian left, taking with them the fee for divination. When they came to balaam, they told him what Balak had said.

8 “Spend the night here,” balaam said to them, “and I will report back to you with the answer the Lord gives me.” So the Moabite officials stayed with him.

9 God came to balaam and asked, “Who are these men with you?”

10 balaam said to God, “Balak son of Zippor, king of Moab, sent me this message: 11 ‘A people that has come out of Egypt covers the face of the land. Now come and put a curse on them for me. Perhaps then I will be able to fight them and drive them away.’”

12 But God said to balaam, “Do not go with them. You must not put a curse on those people, because they are blessed.”

13 The next morning balaam got up and said to Balak’s officials, “Go back to your own country, for the Lord has refused to let me go with you.”

14 So the Moabite officials returned to Balak and said, “balaam refused to come with us.”

15 Then Balak sent other officials, more numerous and more distinguished than the first. 16 They came to balaam and said:

“This is what Balak son of Zippor says: Do not let anything keep you from coming to me, 17 because I will reward you handsomely and do whatever you say. Come and put a curse on these people for me.”

18 But balaam answered them, “Even if Balak gave me all the silver and gold in his palace, I could not do anything great or small to go beyond the command of the Lord my God. 19 Now spend the night here so that I can find out what else the Lord will tell me.”

20 That night God came to balaam and said, “Since these men have come to summon you, go with them, but do only what I tell you.”

balaam’s Donkey
21 balaam got up in the morning, saddled his donkey and went with the Moabite officials. 22 But God was very angry when he went, and the angel of the Lord stood in the road to oppose him.
balaam was riding on his donkey, and his two servants were with him. 23 When the donkey saw the angel of the Lord standing in the road with a drawn sword in his hand, it turned off the road into a field. balaam beat it to get it back on the road.

MaxInDHouse:
Obviously you don't read comments you're just hurriedly responding.

I said your topic is simple but 13 chapters of epistles has complicated it all!

So pick few quotes and go straight to what you want me to address not complicating the whole thing, that's why you became helpless when commentators where derailing your thread, if you have just two or three points it will be easy for you to drive them back to the main points you want them to comment on!

Okay. My bad. There were just too many gaffes I tried to fit in all of them. Even at that, I left out the pretty crazy gaffes. I should have picked up only a few.
I apologize. No jokes.
Lemme bring out one of the top gaffes…

MaxInDHouse:
There are lots of soft drinks like Coca cola but they're not globally recognized like Coke {Isaiah 2:2} that's the undeniable difference!

Again Max, what makes your denomination different from others that claim they are the true blah blah blah? Can you be more succinct? All this coca cola BS wont wash

MaxInDHouse:
None of them is interested in Bible discourse because they're not trained to engage in such discussion unlike Jehovah's Witnesses who are fully competent and completely equiped to strike meaningful conversation with strangers.

So if you want to engage a real Bible student like me just pick few Bible quotations that you feel is really contradicting then type just two or three sentences to explain what you want to know. I will make myself available and i promise not to allow for any distraction from all these misinformed churchgoers.

Til now, you haven't said anything about the topic but you're quick to bash other theists about their silence. Are you nuts?

MaxInDHouse:
I told you i will teach you how to strike what is called MEANINGFUL CONVERSATION!

Now this is what God's organization taught me and i will like you to borrow a leaf from our way of engaging people in our neighbourhood.

First of all what you typed is too lengthy so it'll be really difficult for any interested person to engage you. All you need is pick just three to four Bible quotations that you feel will drive home your point followed by two to three sentences, in that way you'll be able to drive any derailing commentator back to the main points but since you're not focused on what you want to establish it will turn out to be aimless and purposeless.


I've told you several times but it's obvious you don't just want to know. Isaiah 2:2-4 repeated at Micah 4:1-3 specifically mentioned what God intended to achieve through the global campaign that the Messiah is coming to commission so out of all the religions claiming Christians only Jehovah's Witnesses met that goal.



You're not honest with your own findings otherwise you shouldn't have been taken away from your own personal research.
If you say: The book of Bible gaffes

Nothing concerns you with whatever any adherent of such a book say all you should be concerned is your own PERSONAL findings.

But since you're not trained like true disciples of Christ (Jehovah's Witnesses) you were taken away into another theme which has nothing to do with your thread.

Are you aware that there are other peaceful sects/denominations?

johnw47:
i'm not interested in chatting with false jw's,
what makes you think i'm interested in small talk with atheist

Ok, bro. Then have a good day

MaxInDHouse:
Stupidity in atheists!

He started his thread with almost 14 chapters of what he wants to dispute with churchgoers only for him to start posting over 30 comments about Jehovah's Witnesses on the same thread, what about his own 14 epistles or chapters?
TRASHED!

Lol. You're the one that derailed the thread with your regular 'we da best' quote. So I ignored you up til now

MaxInDHouse:
How will it make sense as you've been robbed of your own thread?
You're demanding akpu and vegetable soup with assorted meat only for churchgoers to set garri and water on the table for you, and instead of being consistent with what you want you stupidly carry and start drinking the garri even savouring it like you don't know what you really want!

Ok. You're right.
Lets ignore your derailing and dodging antics and focus on the topic.
What is your take?
I kept the main gaffes aside thinking I'd have more challengers from christians, but look what I got….

MaxInDHouse:
How easy it is for others to channel your brain to what they want instead of you focusing on the right path?

If changing names doesn't make the changer founder of his group then it simply means all the sects claiming "Christians" from Catholics to Anglican, Methodist, Apostolic, Presbyterian, Deeperlife, MFM, Christ Embassy, Synagogues and the rest all belongs to Jesus of Nazareth because they keep on changing names whereas the name used to draw followers is "Jesus Christ"

So it's either you agree that Rutherford is the founder of the group he named or Jesus is the founder of all religions claiming Christians.

Ọmọ you're not chatting with misinformed churchgoers o!

This part of your post doesn't make sense. But lets say Rutherford is the founder, how does it make your organization 'the right one'?

DrAda:
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I sincerely don't understand your fixation with this. Have you worked in a hospital before or are you just quoting off some textbook?

My job as a specialist is to fill out a form for blood culture, and note that i am trying to rule out Typhoid fever in my patient. A smart and resourceful medical microbiologist can figure out the rest.

Similarly if I suspect avascular necrosis of the left femoral neck secondary to some disease, my job is to request for an xray and trust that the radiologist will know what to do.

It is really that simple.

… and you fail to recognize your error. Doing a blood culture wouldn't pick up salmonella quick enough. Besides, the culture media which we use in this environment which is cooked meat or McConkey simply isn't specific for salmonella. You're better off with a urine or stool sample.
And yes I have been working in hospitals for close to 2 decades

MaxInDHouse:
That shows the level of your IQ!

If you start a foundation and you allowed those against whom you purposely got a rifle to channel your brain into aiming something else instead of being consistent at pulling the trigger at them then something is missing in your brain!

Bro, rephrase…
Doesn't make sense

MaxInDHouse:
Ọmọ you're the one dying over what hasn't got anything to do with you.
John the baptist baptized Jesus of Nazareth and afterwards Jesus began his own ministry with few members of John's group while the rest of John's group never followed Jesus.
That's exactly what happened to Russell and Rutherford, the group Russell led splited into various groups and Rutherford named the one he headed so in your right senses the founder should have been Rutherford going by your analogy because neither Kumuyi nor Oyedepo or Olukoya brought people from the space it's the same people from other religions that came together to form what they named and started being the founder.
So tell your friend the truth Russell can't be the founder it would have made more sense to say Rutherford founded the group since he named it just like others also named their own foundations
I will teach you how to use your brain!

Right.
Russell founded the group, Rutherford took a splinter group and renamed it. Seemed like stuff regular mortals do: bicker and baulk over inane stuff. So where does Jesus Christ come into all this?

johnw47:
Job_15:12  Why doth thine heart carry thee away? and what do thy eyes wink at

you got @bold right,
except for the small g in God

What is the relevance of the bolded to the convo?
By the way, what's the difference between g and G?

johnw47:
if Yahweh made non christians and false jw's evil, then good,
He will eventually destroy them to, and not too soon

So does it make sense he created evil, made non christians and JWs commit the evil and still destroy them?
Same way he hardened poor old Pharaoh's heart so he can murder all the first sons of Egypt.
Such a loving and just god.

johnw47:
and what has that to do with my post on the meaning of the word "Christendom"

You said this…
You are of your father the devil, and you want to do the desires of your father. He was a murderer from the beginning, and does not stand in the truth because there is no truth in him. Whenever he speaks a lie, that is his natural way of speaking, for he is a liar and the father of lies.
… implying non christians and JWs behave like the devil who possesses evil characteristics like lying, murdering etc.
So I just reminded you that Yahweh actually created evil.
No hard feelings bro

johnw47:
Ecc_7:6  For as the crackling of thorn bushes under a pot, So is the laughter of the fool

Christendom. / (ˈkrɪsəndəm) / noun. the collective body of Christians throughout the world or throughout history. an obsolete word for Christianity.


lost false jw mad max

no member of the Christian churches/of Christianity, have come to address the issue,
but you false jw have come to address the issue

non christian false jw's
Joh 8:44 You are of your father the devil, and you want to do the desires of your father. He was a murderer from the beginning, and does not stand in the truth because there is no truth in him. Whenever he speaks a lie, that is his natural way of speaking, for he is a liar and the father of lies.

But Yahweh said he created evil. Or haven't you read it?
Isaiah 45:7
King James Version
7 I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the Lord do all these things.

MaxInDHouse:
Avoid:
Cold drinks and ice cream, fried foods, fatty diets, red meat and whatever could add to cholesterol in your system then start drinking warm or hot water, eat lots of vegetables and fish like oporoko if you like chewing something after food.
My own wife came from a family that's asthmatic i discovered during her sleep because all asthmatic patients dó snur a lot while sleeping so i quickly began treating her to prevent it through our diet. Her sister often visit the doctor for checkup but my wife doesn't even feel the symptoms anymore though i make sure we both stick to the preventive measures.

Lol. Dr. MadMax in Da House!
What has red meat or cholesterol gotta do with asthma?
Just stick to discussing about your child mol@sting group. You're more knowledgeable about that one

livebyday:
In this internet age? Come on, now you are ejust being ridiculous 🙄

Lol. I'm a physician of nearly 2 decades. You'd be surprised the stuff Nigerians believe in. And I mean educated folks. Dont get me started

MaxInDHouse:
Funny people!

An atheist posted almost 14 lengthy epistles to disqualify the Bible and rubbish all it's adherents, no member of Christendom churches has come to address the issue but he no longer have interest in his own topic only to start worrying over the rumor a member of Christendom brought up against another group.

Ọmọ wahala dey for Okpoko!

Nobody was interested in addressing the topic. Even you weren't interested in addressing it. I just got disinterested in the thread. Instead you theists have derailed it so I had mo choice than to follow suit. But if u r still interested in discussing it, by all means do

MaxInDHouse:
So it's Kumuyi who named his own Deeperlife as founder nah!
How is Charles Taze Russell the founder when he knew nothing about the name we bear now?

Rutherford named your denomination just like Kumuyi named his.
By the way, change of name doesn't mean its a different organization. International Bible Students changed its name to Jehovah Witness. And both names were given by mere mortals. You'll have to do better, bro

Gospelpreacher1:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ijDstc7WlXA?si=CZgc40zcy_d_BogW

Can I test bullets on your body now ?