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Alexandersantos:
God didn't create human to fall into sin...God created us to live on earth for eternity but due to their disobidence they sinned against God and by that loosing the chance to live for evenity...

You mean yahweh doesn't know the future?

Dtruthspeaker:
When a person does not want to have anything to do with you, you will not find them eg children searching for their fathers.

And no one says that that their fathers do not exist simply because they did not find him.

So why is this particular father hiding from his children

HellVictorinho6:
i disagree

Why

God1000:
They are both sick


Homosexuals and lesbians disgust me, such Occidental lifestyle is alien to us in Africa

It is ungodly, unholy, immoral, unconscionable, objectionable, aberration and utterly reprehensible.

Obviously you don't know your history

SIRTee15:
I don't have time for reprobate minds like u.
U came into my mentions, started with insults when none was thrown at u and persisted in it.
In case u don't know, above is a sign of poor upbringing and mental conditioning to perceive such as normal.
Now that u know,I hope u will do a better job with your offsprings. ACE is real.
Bye, focus on defending your weak pseudo atheist arguments.

Him sef don start him own lie....
ghengis khan lived b4 Jesus Christ...
No western scientist were Christians.

FYI, Galileo was a Christian, Isaac Newton was a devout Christian.
Guttenburg the guy who invented the printing press was a Christian, the first book he printed with his invention was the bible so commoners could read it.

Bunch of lazy wannabe atheist. Research they won't do and when they are corrected, they start looking for lies to cover their mess.

Newton wasn't a chrissie. In fact, according to his biography, he believed worshiping Yahweh was idolatry. And he's an aryan.
Galileo was brought up to be catholic but didn't believe its stories. His theory that the Earth was round nearly got him killed and he was under house arrest til he died. He was afraid of speaking against the Roman Catholic Church who believed any contrary belief is heresy and punishable by death.
Gutenberg wasn't even a scientist and was definitely not a chrissie. I just wasted my time researching him. His invention, the printing press was used to print the Bible just like it was used to print other books then. I wonder how that makes him a Chrissie.
So wannabe chrissie, lie another lie. I'm waiting…

Image123:
Is there healing or there is no healing? It's a very simple question until you make it complicated.
Let's help break it down further. There's healing but no supernatural healing, right?

This is the definition of heal.
heal
/hiːl/
verb
cause (a wound, injury, or person) to become sound or healthy again.
"his concern is to heal sick people"
Similar:
make better
make well
cure
treat successfully
restore to health
get someone back on their feet
make good
mend
remedy
restore
curative
therapeutic
medicinal
remedial
curing
corrective
reparative
restorative
tonic
health-giving
healthful
beneficial
salubrious
sanative
analeptic
iatric
Opposite:
make worse
harmful
become sound or healthy again.
"the bullet wounds had healed"
Similar:
get better
get well
be cured
become healthy
recover
mend
be on the mend
improve
show improvement
be restored
Opposite:
get worse
alleviate (a person's distress or anguish).
"time can heal the pain of grief"
So yes, that's my answer to your question

MightySparrow:
This is an area you don't know Sir. No amount of arguments can make you convince someone who was suffering and now healed. Who was blind and now sees. Who was lame and now walks. Who has one leg shorter than the other but now has the two same. I have seen these. Sir you disbelief or unbelief sown by GB does not hold water.

The little truth I have in your words just faded.
Any evidence of these claims, sir?

MightySparrow:
What evidence does one who was sick and now healthy? Something that happened some more than twenty years ago and repeated.againand again.
Why don't you visit a psychiatrist whether you are sane? Produce a medical report that will make me believe you are sane.

We work with evidence, bro. Any serious organization does. Thats why courts, hospitals etc don't rely on hearsays or hunches but evidences. You need to provide evidence of cure

MaxInDHouse:
You always misconstrue my post but that's not a problem all you need is enlightenment.

Did you miss this part in my post?



Of course God has arranged that man should be cured using different fruits and vegetables to heal us that's why atheists feel what they want as evidence of God's ability to heal are the things recorded in the Bible: faith healing without the use of any food or drinks.

For your information a type of food may be the cure to a disease but it's until we discover it such a disease remains incurable to researchers (scientists)

So if you claim God healed you the same is applicable to everyone else as long as they eat food and drinks fluids sicknesses are cured but when it comes to healing without taking any food or drinks God never promised other nations except the descendants of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob that's why Jesus could tell a woman he's not here for miraculous healing of none Israelites! Matthew 15:24

So why would a god create fruits and herbs to heal some cancers and hide such plants(or the knowledge) til billions of people (including his own people and JW) die of cancer?

MightySparrow:
Your professors

Professors of what?

MightySparrow:
Well said. I have evidence. He healed me, my wife and daughter of what doctors claimed to be incurable.

You have arguments. No amount of arguments can match an evidence.
My own God promised me healing and perform His promises.

You need to provide evidence. Hope you know.
By the way, which god heals atheists?

MaxInDHouse:
My God promised only the descendants of His friend (Abraham) that's why the Bible never mentioned any miracles without involvement of Israelites.
Healing on its own has been part of God's plan that's why he created herbs for humans to treat ourselves! Psalms 104:14
But all these noise here and there about miracles is deception!

If only you read your buybull, you'll know non-Israelites received miracles directly from Jesus. Looks like atheists read the buybull than chrissies

SIRTee15:
U know people who were badly trained as a child or those that suffered from childhood abandonment when they open their gutter mouth in public.
because only a rabid dog barks even at a tree that was never in their business.
Pls stay off my mention and better seek therapy b4 u transfer your ACE problems to your kids.

Lol. Is that all u can say? After you have been caught out?

MightySparrow:
Qin Shi Huang (Chinese: 秦始皇, pronunciation (help·info); [b]259–210 BC) [/b]was the founder of the Qin dynasty and the first emperor of a unified China.[9] Rather than maintain the title of "king" (王 wáng) borne by the previous Shang and Zhou rulers, he ruled as the First Emperor (始皇帝) of the Qin dynasty from 221 to 210 BC. His self-invented title "emperor" (皇帝 huángdì) would continue to be borne by Chinese rulers for the next two millennia.


Isaiah prophesied 700 BC.
You are not in Jesus agenda now. If you are He would bring you in . Paul did more than you are doing. I was once a critic of scriptures before.

The Bible says ' a fool says in his heart there's no God.

The same way you see Christians as stupid, the same way I see you on the authority of scriptures I put ahead of my knowledge of science.

1. How did Isaiah prophesy 700BC?
2. So how do we know those in Jesus agenda?
3. Can you complete that verse 'a fool says in his heart there's no god' . What did it say?

MightySparrow:
Sure?

Yes sir

MightySparrow:
I hope you know the meaning of 'theory' A model proposed and you begin to observe whether they are related with reality. Evolution has not proved why baboon has not done anything scientifically or improve their quality of life these hundred of million out years of their existence.
Man hasn't evolved to something higher. While I commend scientists in their search, science has not proven that the universe is a product of accident but of an intelligent being.
Professor Francis Crick in his work on DNA has same idea.
An honest man, armed with all the knowledge available to us now, could only state that in some sense, the origin of life appears at the moment to be almost a miracle, so many are the conditions which would have had to have been satisfied to get it going.
Francis Crick, Life Itself: Its Origin and Nature
Tags: chance, life, miracles, origin-of-life, science

1. Baboons undergo evolution. Matter of fact all organisms undergo it, from bacteria to humans.
https://blogs.bcm.edu/2019/02/12/from-the-labs-genome-sequencing-uncovers-baboon-evolution-and-more/#:~:text=%E2%80%9CBaboons%20have%20long%20attracted%20scientific,which%20early%20human%20ancestors%20arose.

Please where are the grey areas of revolution you talked about? And what are the group of scientists that disprove it?
Man is evolving into something different.
A simple google search woulda straightened you out

MightySparrow:
1. There's no history by any historian beyond 6000 years anywhere. The earliest records by Egyptian, later Babylonian etc. Science rely on carbon dating. Carbon dating itself has its own problems. O think you know the meaning of 'theory '
It simply means the truth of a thing is not known. A model is put forward and see if it complies with observation. With a failed theory another model is sought. Evolution is not definite till today and not all scientists agree with it. It has its gray areas.

2. Genghis Khan (born Temüjin; c. 1162 — 25 August 1227), also known as Chinggis Khan,[a] was the founder and first khagan of the Mongol Empire, which later became the largest contiguous land empire in history. Having spent the majority of his life uniting the Mongol tribes, he launched a series of military campaigns which conquered large parts of China and Central Asia.

Conclusion: Lie.

3. You have closed your mind to the concept of Christianity and religion. Until you study the Bible you will just remain a critic. The question is why are over one billion Christian devotees don't agree with your views ?

1. Actually there is history before 6k years ago.
https://www.southampton.ac.uk/~cpd/history.html
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_history
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timeline_of_prehistory#:~:text=6%2C000%20years%20ago%20(4000%20BC,invention%20of%20the%20potter's%20wheel.

2. Khan may have lived after Jesus
3. There was a time over a billion people believed in Thor, Zeus etc, and they far outnumbered christians. If you were a Christian then, would you believe them and dump christianity

Dtruthspeaker:
When you are thrown into prison, you would know that music is life!

I doubt Nigerian prisons, or those horrible South American prisons have prisons.
Even at that, music doesn't keep people alive. What it does is keep you company, but not alive

Maynmann:
Intellectuals care that’s why we have breakthrough in medicine.
Thanks to intellectuals that care and medicine many people lives have been saved by it.

People that are dense like DTruthSpeaker make up the bulk of Africans. Reason why scientific discoveries are far from us

Dtruthspeaker:
Without even pointing out the other flaws in the rest of your presentation "Space" itself is already a something, so, no thing can be created out of no thing is a a Truth that is still intact even though you people have tried severally to attack it. But in the end, it stands solid in place.

So where did Yahweh get the materials he used to create the earth?

CodeTemplar:
they are influenced by it. That why gays can be delivered and hormones suddenly subside in operations.

Really? Homosexuality is affected by hormones?
Are pastors now teaching endocrinology?

TenQ:
Your existence is the greatest proof.

1. You are conscious
2. You are intelligent
3. You can even operate in an abstract sense sometimes.

It is IMPOSSIBLE in the material space that a System evolve out of chaos or nothing without guide from the external!

To prove that God doesn't exist, you may need to compute the probability that
A Boeing 747 or a Laptop can assemble itself given every necessary individual component parts!

If you can't, it's a waste of precious time to engage with you.

1. Which god is that?
2. Why can't that god be created?

SIRTee15:
U better go and check yourself in a mental rehab home and seek help with your demented memory.
If u not confusing me with someone else, u making up stories about me or u filling up your memory gaps with my mentions.
Very soon, u will see me in your dreams chasing u.

Don't mention me again, otherwise u answer to the mods.
I'm not responsible for your troubles, blame it on your fixed destiny u brought from heaven or whatever.

Answer the question sir.
If you didn't say that why were you demanding for links and stories where SR happened

Image123:
Hmmm, how convenient. There is no miracle, there is no God, but here you say they are miracles. Can you be more rational? Are there miracles or there are no miracles? If you now believe in miracles, it is good progress off the road of folly. Then who can move on to who is doing the miracles. Good job, good job.

In medicine, we have some conditions which are diagnosis of exclusions. And we have some diseases which are termed Idiopathic. Now these idiopathic diseases were puzzling to science til the etiology or cause is known. Some diseases like sickle cell, malaria etc had idiopathic etiologies til science found them out. Even now the exact cause of some common diseases are not known. Example is uterine leiomyoma(fibroid). We don't jump into conclusions that they were all caused by evil spirits, demons, bad air etc.
Same goes for spontaneous remissions. Although science have started discovering how those remissions happened, we haven't found out all the mechanisms.
However if you insist they are miracles then you're giving yourself a massive shot in the foot. These 'miracles' also happen to atheists, Muslims and other non-Christians. So how does Yahweh 'heal' those and ignore christians that worship him even when he says the heathen shall suffer and that their prayers are like abominations unto him?

Image123:
Half mark. Get the other half by showing us where he/she said that he/she can heal all manner of disease. Then mention the other 4 since you can't count. It should not be such a struggle. Of course you don't have it, so there'd be some violent rigmarole in 3, 2, 1....
Mention 5 Christians on this forum and the post where they boasted on this forum to "you" that they heal all manner of disease. We go wait till next 50 years. Joker.

I won't be sucked into that fruitless venture. If you don't believe me, no qualms. Next time I have such claims, I'll screenshot it. At least I remember RoyalDiadems claim. You can chat him up and ask him if he boasted that he can cure fibroid cases.
By the way, are you saying Yahweh doesn't heal?

FxMasterz:
Don't mind them. As if they haven't seen God do any miracles before. They explain it away and continue in their delusions. Who is deceiving who?

Ok. Lets assume that Spontaneous Remissions are miracles from Yahweh.
1. Why does he ignore many dying christians and heal atheists, muslims etc
2. Why does it happen to people who don't even pray to Yahweh. In fact, some people that mock Yahweh experience spontaneous remission.
Remember the prayers of a heathen are abominations to yahweh

TenQ:
My questions were:
1. Do you concur that SOMETHING beyond time, space, matter and physical laws initiated the expansion of the Universe?
2. Do you think such a PRIMARY initiator can be subject to the laws of nature?


What you need to do:
1. Confirm if matter had always existed.
2. Then ask if the laws of Physics and Chemistry can exist without matter
THEN
3. If matter at a point in time never existed
AND
The laws of physics and chemistry was not in existence
CONCLUSION:
Whatever Initiated the formation of Matter and the laws of nature must be OUT of this Universe (Not subject to the Physical or Natural Laws).

Okay. Assuming, its out of this world. Don't you think it may be an alien? And if an alien, may not obey OUR own laws of physics

MightySparrow:
Not really, do you realize that the Bible is the most criticized scriptures? The Bible is more than philosophical book. I have been trying to put a thread on the Bible, which by the grace of God, I would do soon.

However, you must understand that the word directly from God is minimal which are prophecies and direct commandments of Moses books and Jesus'.
The rest are history, songs, poetry based on history and personal or national perception of God taking the Bible as reference.. However, all these have acts of God.
The mistakes and differences in reports are pardonable. The word of God is like a nation's constitution which we are striving to comply it as a guide. So, so many writers, especially the chroniclers, write the Acts of God from their viewpoints.
The Acts of our God still continues in signs and wonders and fulfilment of prophecies all over the globe.

Why Academics are rationalizing words and semantics, believers see these things through different spectacles. Evidences are there for whoever cares to know them.

Christianity is a development from Eden to the New age to come. In between, God made His people to pass through all civilizations confirming and enforcing His supremacy.

Until you read with open mind, you will remain a critic . Believers watch the word fulfilled in personal life and global fulfillment of prophecies. These are beyond scientific explanations.

Sorry, I'm replying late.
1. Even the direct quote from Yahweh are horrific. From telling people to murder non-virgins to promoting slavery, misogyny, xenophobia etc
2. No. The mistakes aren't pardonable. Some of them are just plain misleading and some are plain misleading. Like the genealogy of Jesus, the books of Matthew, Mark, Luke and John gave different names to Jesus ancestors. Some gave wrong geography like how the earth is. Etc etc. Have you read Numbers 22? It looked like a drunk wrote it.
3. Exactly which prohesies are coming to pass?
4. What evidence are you talking about?

TenQ:
Your response in 1 conflicts with your response in 2

Did it occur to you that the force behind creation could be of this world, and not other-worldly

Lawag3:
Yeah Everything that is what you can do what you may do. It's like knowing all possible realities.

You underestimate the power of knowing everything. It's like me wanting to do something God knows I could do it he also knows what I will do if I change my mind he also knows what will happen if I do it he also knows what will happen if I don't do it. He knows that if I do what I want to do it could affect someone else. He knows how it will affect the person specifically. He knows what the other person needs to do to avoid being affected. He knows that this person might not do it. He knows all actions but leaves you to make the actions.So there's nothing you can do to surprise God he already knows

Then he's not omniscient. Simple.
If he is waiting for me to make a decision before knows the outcome, then he aint omniscient