₦airaland Forum

vdestro:
This is a lie. If you tally the news of murders in the local stations of california alone, it has already beaten the one captured in nigeria.

Did you read the part where I said terrorism is under reported in Nigeria?
Even the murders of California don't beat the reported terrorism act in Nigeria. Just this morning alone on Nairaland front page, you have death of youth from Benue, up to 50 or so(I don't know the exact number), then you have unknown gun men victims in SE.
How many have you heard this morning from US?

Aemmyjah:
Lordreed
Maynment
Worksh
Jaephoenix

They want to belong and take sides with the white men tale to make them look wise

As much as I'm a busy man, lemme deign to respond to this as I have been tagged.
Each region or continent have issues peculiar to them.
Europe and America have gun based homicides, especially the later.
Africa has hunger, corruption etc of which Nigeria is burdened with terrorism(Boko Haram, Northern and South Eastern/IPOB/pseudo IPOB terrorists), kidnapping etc. You have tacitly ignored the problems nigeria is faced but is screaming at the problems of the white man. Aint it funny?
May I also remind you that more people die from terrorism in Nigeria than the US from gun violence acts. The difference is that of Nigeria is intentionally underreported.
About gender identification issues, I don't like the way the gender identity issue is panning out in the western world with people identifying as non binary and what not. But then I sympathize with them. Why?
The human sex is not just male and female. These 2 are just the extremes, there are interstates between them. Even some people we call males may not physiologically or anatomically correct. I have seen many babies with so many genital ambiguities in my practice. But the affected parents chose to assign the most desirable genders for such babies. These ambiguities range from testicular feminization to Klinefelter to XXY etc. So what sex would you call them? Some of these people grow up and follow the gender assigned to them by the society and in an ignorant and religious society like ours, they dare not speak up that they are different. The stigma and hate they cop is unimaginable . And of course they can't procreate. Some of them dont engage in premarital sex and spring a trap for their intending spouses in the marriages. We see them in fertility clinics. We just counsel them to move on and forget procreation. These patients in the western world have found their voices and speaking out. And its their voices youre hearing. Unfortunately these voices are tinged with miscreants like trannies who I feel have mental issues(my views, not the medical community views)

Opanka44:
Thanks to God Almighty. God actually sent help your way, imagine they didn't take your phone or hit you. You were able to use your phone to make calls for help. I pray for all Nairaland members that God's Protection will continue to Rest upon them and their families. They won't be victims of these heartless, bloodthirsty, maruading kidnappers
I'm just praying for help from any nairalander who can pls help me. The Hunger is excruciatingly Painful. I'm not lazy but fortunes haven't smiled at me. Pls Help me. Reach out me pls

Just pray to this same God. He'll surely help you. No need to beg Nairalanders

vdestro:
You have changed post. Nigeria was a religious country and it was very safe until the Curse of the end of the world took effect, so, clearly, you have nothing reasonable to say.

Can you tell us when it was safe, sir

LordReed:
This one is even trying to turn logic on its head, saying if you do good it means you believe in god. LMFAO!

Theists have a serious problem utilizing logic. I remember being taught Logic in Philosophy 101 back in uni. I didn't know some people feel its a waste of time

TenQ:
Lazarus was resurrected by Jesus
The little girl was resurected by Jesus

How many in a million deaths for any reason gets returned back?

Every Christian believe in miracles : a miracle is a temporary suspension of the natural laws

So that bible verse is wrong then?

MaxInDHouse:
You don't know anything about Jehovah all you want to here is what your Papa told you.
Can you quote anywhere Jehovah empower a none Israelites to perform miracles? Jesus is the son of Jehovah he confirmed that miracles is reserved only for Israelites! Matthew 15:24

So i'm not talking about some imaginary God your Papa is worshipping but what do you know about Jehovah of the Bible?

I may be wrong but is Paul an Israelite?

Aemmyjah:
Tagging atheists and religious people on different ends shows that the guy is not sincere but want to start a debate

So how best do you think he should show sincerity? Not tagging anyone?

MightySparrow:
You are not sincere. Thou shall not tempt the Lord your God. So, if those ones need healing you don't need to bring them. They can pray in their houses and get results.
I am a proof.


But you don't harass my own God to answer your prayers neither does He need any proof to you to show His ability.
You, though are His creation, but infinitesimally insignificant.

What happened between Elijah and the prophets of Baal?

1Sharon:
Morons need to travel.

Seriously the morooons in Nigeria are mind boggling. How I found myself here is a mystery

Rayban25:
When you fall into problems now you'll be looking for the source of the problem not knowing that you're the cause of your own misfortune.

Some of you dont deserve pity from others

And I guess you don't have any problems since you don't date her type.
Nigerians are always divorced from their brains

FxMasterz:
Then we should ask why they spent several years from one emperor to the other trying to stump out the same Christianity that they created. Why should they throw the Christians into the arena to be eaten up by beasts? To stump out the same Christianity they created? Why would they behead all the disciples of Jesus Christ except John the Revelator? To stump out the Christianity they created?

We're aware of all the anomalies that the Roman Catholic brought into Christiendom. That's why we have the Reformers who gave rise to the Protestants we have today.

The Romans didn't invent Christianity. They wanted to reinvent it but light continues to shine out of darkness.

Ever heard of Emperor Constantine?

TenQ:
I didn't even mention the name of Jesus nor did I say anything about God.

But the children of hate must live according to the seed of hate in them.

Bottom line based on his Own Report :
He was sick and died
Went to Hell as a Atheist
Received Mercy
No more an Atheist

So this verse was a lie then
Hebrews 9:27
King James Version
27 And as it is appointed unto men once to die, but after this the judgment

Mekoyaw:
Good day to everyone on this prestigious forum. The decision to share this story of mine came to spotlight after months of reluctance & indecision to share and as a result of the stage of deterioration regarding the physical abnormality. That I truly regret!!!

First & foremost what I'm about to say here is about the strange body growth that attacked my left foot, above my left eye & most disturbing right now the bony protuberance on my forehead during my service year in Benin City in 2021, though the last in the list was habit induced which started before I was called-up for NYSC but not very noticeable while the others still remains a mystery to me how it started, at that time my colleagues make jest of me that "you played Johnny with Benin girls abi which is absolutely false. But those on my foot & left eye subsided with the help of an kind elder-state dad in my area.

Now the one disturbing right now is the bony protuberance I've on my forehead which is at a degenerating stage, it's actually began with a childhood habit of mine which involves rubbing my thumb knuckle roughly on my other finger which I find pleasurable now this habit metamorphosed recently & upgraded to my forehead but I only did it when I'm sad, not knowing that I'm causing injury to my forehead but then when I noticed some little bump I stopped it even before I went for service, since then it's just growing.

Please I need all the help I can get right now.

Doesn't look malignant. Looks like a lipoma to me. They'll excise it and send for histopathology.

southsouthking:
Zlantan didn't announce retirement, Retirement announced Zlantan.

GOAT x BLACK BELT

The comment I was looking for. Underrated

MaxInDHouse:
It's not a literal fruit but choice either to live and let live or enforce his opinion on others as their ruler setting standards for right and wrong.

That's what it means and only God supposed to set standards so different fruits in the garden refers to whatever Adam will like to do but the fruit of good and evil means setting standards as ruler over other humans!

Its not a literal fruit? Well, how do you know that?

schoolboymatt:
the tree of knowledge isn't some physical tree.
It's a metaphor to something.

Lol. How do you know its a metaphor?

ichuka:
So then, the law is holy, and the commandment is holy, righteous, and good. Rom7:12
The law and commandments are Holy. Adam was created purely without sin. but there's nothing Holy in him to uphold God's moral command. God told him DO NOT EAT JUST ONE FRUIT, in the whole garden, But he still ate it. Why? Because there's nothing Holy in him to uphold Gods command.
Same with the children of Israel .
There's nothing holy in them to keep His commandments.
Ithe Holy Spirit in a believer aids him to uphold His laws.

Who created that tree, gave it luscious fruits, placed it in the middle of the garden where Adam would be admiring it?
And of course he created Adam(with all these frailties you listed) knowing he'll fail, and still kept that tree near him.
Tell me who's to blame?
A. Adam?
B. Jaephoenix
C. Ichuka
D. Yahweh

Steep:
Your analogy is daft. A toddler has no knowledge of what he is doing unlike an adult.

No it isnt. Adam had no knowledge of good and evil. Matter of fact, the odds are stacked against him. Hes competing against the devil who is omnipotent, omniscient etc. What does poor Adam have to fight him?
And remember yahweh created this devil and knew he's gonna bring down Adam and mankind, but he went "Fvck it, iont care"

Aemmyjah:
Answer is NO
Remwmber that Angels too sinned by marrying wives and bearing hybrid offspring
Will you say that when God was creating the woman, Eve (which was to complement the man), he did that knowing that some angels would have an affair with some of the children?
Reason am

Relevant Verses where yahweh said he's omniscient

Psalm 147:5
Great is our Lord and abundant in strength;
His understanding is infinite.

1 John 3:20
in whatever our heart condemns us; for God is greater than our heart and knows all things.

Psalm 139:4
Even before there is a word on my tongue,
Behold, O Lord, You know it all.

Matthew 10:30
But the very hairs of your head are all numbered.

Psalm 147:4
He counts the number of the stars;
He gives names to all of them

MaxInDHouse:
Why not ask for the explanation?

Well you're an atheist so for the benefit of others who wants to know, God is telling His servants to be courageous because no matter the evil bad people scheme it's not beyond what He created so He has the power to undo it all.
Take for instance Nebuchadnezzar through God's servants into a burning furnace after heating it seven times only for the Creator of fire to change the gases and turn it to air-conditioner for Shadrach, Meshach and Abednego.
Again God's enemies threw Daniel into the lions den only for the Creator to turn lions into domestic pets for His faithful friend.

So He created the good and evil simply means He has the power to change what we know as evil (destructive) like fire to good (air-conditioner)

May you have PEACE!

What do you understand by 'Creating evil? '
Use your brain and think

Steep:
Yes God knew Adam and eve would fall but however it is as a result of their choices. God gave man ability to make choices and he would not hamper that ability even if it is evil but rather man would be held accountable.

God gave man free will so that man could fellowship with him. Free will means that we can choose to follow God or reject him, God desires those who would worship him in truth and in spirit.

However, God put things in place to enable man make the right choice eg by giving Him his laws.

God knows that man would fall and he prepares salvation for man through christ sacrifice.

God ordained Jesus to be our salvation before creation started.

The real damnation lies in rejecting God's salvation because there is no other salvation plan apart from Jesus.


Take note in everything God does he did not change the ordinal design of giving man free will because that is what he desires but he provided means for us to be saved from our bad choices which is Jesus Christ and his finished work on the cross.

You keep hot oil on a table. A toddler knocks it over and gets a major burns which kills him. And whats more, you knew that hot oil would kill the poor boy, but that didn't stop you from keeping it.
Yep. Lets blame that toddler

NNTR:
You mistake, what is pure and adulterated guesswork for omniscience and equate it to mean know-all, see-all

I'll repeat here so you'll notice.
Adam was not a child.
Adam was capable of doing the right thing.
Adam was not deceived.
Adam betrayed the trust placed in him

I dont see your answer to this question

_{Personal text: Jesus is not a theologian. He is God who told stories.}

How? What trust? Yahweh already knew he'd fall.
Are you saying Yahweh aint omniscient?
You chrissies keep shooting yourself in the foot

Dtruthspeaker:
I have just shown you an example and a case where you were all knowing.



Inspite of that our children have tried plucking our ceiling fans, eating soaps and drinking kerosene to their deaths. And you were aware that all these could happen.

So, judge yourself, are you irresponsible and stupid for having all these things in your house?

Yup

Dtruthspeaker:
Sure.



My number 1 Answer is because it is His House and He can put whatever He likes in it, exactly as you have hypo/sniper and gas cookers and knives and electricity in your house, even though you foreknow that they can kill your children.

But you also foreknow that if they listen to you, they would not be harmed, so no problem.

Just like a man would leave electricity on, hypo bleach around, hot water and oil on the table. Knowing a 3 year old is around. And whats more, he knew already that the 3 year old would die from the hot oil.
Makes perfect sense

NNTR:
1. When you said to ichuka 'Did you not know from the beginning that your child will drink hypo and die? Stupidity ki you there' did it occur to you that God must have very good reason for leaving the Tree of the knowledge of good and evil centrally placed in full view and plain sight, knowing fully well that without protection or a guard, if eaten off, will cause death?

2. Why do you think God did that? (i.e. leave the Tree of the knowledge of good and evil centrally placed in full view and plain sight, knowing fully well that without protection or a guard, will cause death, if eaten off)
3. Do you think it was a stupid and/or irresponsible act from God?

_{Personal text: Jesus is not a theologian. He is God who told stories.}

So why did yahweh do it, knowing already adam would fall?

TenQ:
Man was created with the knowing that he will fall into sin!
1. Man was given volition
2. Volition must be tested
3. The tree of the knowledge of good and evil was the examination
4. Man wasted no time to fail the examination

Who created that tree of knowledge? Yahweh.
Did he know Adam would succumb to it? Yep.
Then why create it? <crickets>

ichuka:
Version
I make known the end from the beginning, from ancient times, what is still to come. I say, ‘My purpose will stand, and I will do all that I please. Isaiah46;10
Yes,God knows how His creation will end even before He started creation.
He knew Adam would sin from the beginning .
He even purposely gave the children of Israel His laws through Moses for them to break it.

Whats more, he created the tree of knowledge right in the middle of the garden of eden so Adam would see it and sin. So yahweh aided and abetted the crime

MaxInDHouse:
The title "ALMIGHTY" is what they don't know!

They assume that if God is Almighty for real then He should be able to foretell everything including the EVIL thoughts that could spring up from the minds of greedy and selfish creatures. Who will tell them that there's no reason why God whose thoughts are PURE can think of EVIL?
Abraham said about his friend {James 2:23} and God {Matthew 22:32}

"It is unthinkable that you would act in this manner by putting the righteous man to death with the wicked one so that the outcome for the righteous man and the wicked is the same! It is unthinkable of you. Will the Judge of all the earth not do what is right?” Genesis 18:25

God said about Himself:

"They have built the high places of Toʹpheth, which is in the Valley of the Son of Hinʹnom, in order to burn their sons and their daughters in the fire, something that I had not commanded and that had never even come into my heart" Jeremiah 7:31

No wonder this God so much love Abraham who knew that He is so PURE in thought to the extent He can't think of EVIL!

I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these things

Dtruthspeaker:
When will the foolish stop being foolish?

When your phone makers say to your phone "don't go into direct sunlight" does it mean that they made them to fall into sunlight?

"Failures love excuses and always seek it!"

The phone makers aren't omniscient. They are human. Yahweh is supposedly a god, and an omniscient one at that. So he knows his creation would sin and rebel, yet went ahead to create them

Aemmyjah:
Answer is NO
Remwmber that Angels too sinned by marrying wives and bearing hybrid offspring
Will you say that when God was creating the woman, Eve (which was to complement the man), he did that knowing that some angels would have an affair with some of the children?
Reason am

Are you saying Yahweh isn't omniscient?

MaxInDHouse:
NO!
God is not aware of such things that's what it means when He referred to Himself as "HOLY" this connotes PURITY in all aspects God doesn't think of EVIL at all but only GOOD that's why it's impossible for Him to think in that direction!

Isaiah 45:7 ►
King James Bible
I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these things