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SIRTee15:
I already told u start with Bart Erhman, he's a new testament bible critic.
Despite all his claim about thousands of new manuscript contraindications, he finally admitted that the core gospel message in all new testament manuscripts he has studied remain the same- they remain unchanged.

SIRTee15:
Mr Man just answer my previous question and let's call it a day. All these merry go round is waste of time.

Q1. Show me a case of stage 4 metastatic cancer WITHOUT ANY THERAPY that went into SR. Just one evidence.

Q2 An armed robber who was killed while robbing a bank. Was that his destiny right from birth?
A prostitute who was killed by her client. Was that her fate/destiny right from day one she was born. That the innocent one day old baby will grow up and become a prostitute and will be killed in active service.

SIRTee15:
Go to our topics where we debate Muslims, we use what's written in their Koran against them, not what's written in secular dictionary or the bible, because they don't believe in it.
U can start with Bart Erhman, he's an atheist like u.

TenQ:
Did I misrepresent you in anyway?
That was why I said you exhibit School boy wannabe Atheist logic.
Stop claiming a win when there was no contest and no referees. It is a childish behaviour.

I don't discuss spiritual things with Atheists because there is NO Common Ground.

How will you understand when I say God is a spirit?
How would you understand "the talking snake or donkey"?
Does it make sense that Jesus was born from a virgin?
Does it make sense that a dead person came back to life after three days of death?
Does it make sense to you that we exist perpetually even after death?

I can debate you on YOUR philosophy and EVERY other thing like Mathematics, Logic and History because it is common to us.

The ball is in your court if you wish to challenge me on any of these if you dare or can!

SIRTee15:
See another one who wants to force Oxford dictionary into the bible.
It's a waste of time discussing with u guys. TenQ was right.
Both of u are just wannabe bible critics with nothing upstairs to back your claim.
As I said to maynman, go and study the works of bible critical scholars, then come back and discuss.

SIRTee15:
Wow have discovered something new today...before it was meaning of theo and now meaning of bible.
What a great discovery!!!!! hallelujah somebody.
What's the next discovery...meaning of Jesus or christ

Seriously u wasting your time here, this will get u no where. Go and study the works of bible critics and learn how they argue Christian theology.
Imagine bringing secular dictionary meaning of biblical words to argue Christian doctrine. U are meant to study our own meaning of words and check if it affirms with what's written in the bible....that's critic.
Not all these nonsense u doing here.

SIRTee15:
Seriously u not worth the effort. U have 2 to 3 phrases u keep parotting up and down. U can't rise above such mundane and boring arguments.
Guy u need to do more reading of u want to become a bible critic. U can start by reading the works of biblical critical scholars, u not helping anybody here.

SIRTee15:
This is the problem, how can u apply literal definition to spiritual meaning.
This is the biblical definition of destiny

[b]Our destiny is God’s purpose for our lives. It is our God ordained future. Destiny is what God has destined us to become in His divine will and wisdom. [/b]Each of us is also destined to play specific roles in the ordering of His world – cf 1 Corinthians 12 1-7 on the gifts of the Holy Spirit.

God's plan and purpose for his children conceived long before we were born.

Read more about definition of biblical destiny here
https://www.osc-tbs.org/biblical-concept-of-destiny/#:~:text=Destiny%20is%20what%20God%20has,gifts%20of%20the%20Holy%20Spirit.
Here are.some.excerpts....
It must also be noted that nobody is predestined to go to hell and that is why we have continued to preach so that people will not have any excuse on the day of reckoning. Nobody is also predefined to fail because everybody is given the opportunity to pull their weight. God will never impose His will on us but we enjoined to remain steadfast in Christ and He will give the victory.

We read in Genesis the accounts of the creation of both the world and Mankind and also about the fall of Man. God destined Man to be great and to have dominion over His entire creation, but through disobedience Man lost this heritage. It is not impossible for one to forfeit his destiny as a result of carelessness and disobedience.

Really TenQ was right, it's a waste of time talking theology with u guys. It's better we discuss philosophy.

Maynman:
Then your god is not omniscience and does not know the future, in other mythologies gods decide the fate of man.

“ Now I asked your other fake atheist the question but refused to answer, maybe u can help.
An armed robber that got killed during robbery, was that his destiny given to him the day he was born?
A prostitute that got murdered by her client. Was she destined to be a prostitute and be killed during active service right form day one of her life as a baby.”

Fake theist it’s you that believe yahweh is omniscience and knows everything.
You said he knows the FUTURE, so surely he knows who is a armed robber and prostitute in that FUTURE BEFORE he created them.

I ask you, does yahweh know the exact number of people that will go to hell or he is hoping nobody does?

Even the definition of destiny means “make firm, established”. It has already been DECIDED!

SIRTee15:
This is your answer. Man don't have a fixed destiny as affirmed by God.

Then the word of the Lord came to me. 6 He said, “Can I not do with you, Israel, as this potter does?” declares the Lord. “Like clay in the hand of the potter, so are you in my hand, Israel. 7 If at any time I announce that a nation or kingdom is to be uprooted, torn down and destroyed, 8 and if that nation I warned repents of its evil, then I will relent and not inflict on it the disaster I had planned. 9 And if at another time I announce that a nation or kingdom is to be built up and planted, 10 and if it does evil in my sight and does not obey me, then I will reconsider the good I had intended to do for it.

Now I asked your other fake atheist the question but refused to answer, maybe u can help.
An armed robber that got killed during robbery, was that his destiny given to him the day he was born?
A prostitute that got murdered by her client. Was she destined to be a prostitute and be killed during active service right form day one of her life as a baby.

SIRTee15:
What did God tell Jeremiah in chapter 18.5-10

Maynman:
How can you go and prepare a place for people without knowing the EXACT number of people coming?
That’s bad manager and it is a recipe for disaster, that’s why yahweh keeps regretting.

SIRTee15:
Once again playing with words.
As I said earlier we Christians don't believe in a fixed destiny. Your choice is influence your destiny.
God also is forever shaping your destiny with the purpose of bringing u back into the fold. So foreknowledge to God is an active word, not static.
'Foreknowledge is destiny shaping! Speaking about God's foreknowledge is a way of expressing his eternal commitment to individuals as part of his determination to bring them to faith and to all the glories and benefits of Christ's work'
God is constantly reshaping our destiny no matter how complex or disappointing it is just like Jeremiah observed at the potter's house. Jeremiah 18.1-10


Jesus descended into Hades after his soul separated from his body carrying the sins of the world and to declare victory over death.

Maynman:
My present choice will determine my future, does yahweh know the future?



Why then did yahweh send his child to earth if he doesn’t think sin?
Sin means disobedience to yahweh, so what you mean he doesn’t think sin?
Who created hell?
Who made satan the ruler of hell according to you?
When jesus died he took control of hell according to you right yet he doesn’t have business with hell? you keep contradicting yourself.

An omniscience god knows the exact number of people that will go to heaven or hell before he even created them.
A parents also sees all his children been successfully, that’s his plans for children But it may not work out because they are not omniscience, THAT IS WHY YAHWEH REGRETTED, HIS PLAN FAILED.
Your god is not all knowing and certainly can’t see the future.

Save yourself from ignorance, and look up on the origin of the word “hell”.

SIRTee15:
Why should we bother, when Africa is destined to be poor according to you

SIRTee15:
Yahweh doesn't think sin, he's holy. He has no business with hell.
I already told u he sees every being he created in heaven, that's his plan for all men.
Its your choice to reject him and follow the path to hell.

SIRTee15:
Mr Man, post the stuff here yourself.
I have gone through your links and can't find what I'm looking for- A case of SR of metastatic stage 4 cancer without therapy.

TenQ:
It started with a prep




Then you went full ballistic !



Furthermore, you said:


I then TOLD You!





So, again I say to you

I challenge you here again
1. Your evidence of how and when I ran away from debating you
2. An evidence that you won the debate by eating me alive.

Lukuluku69:
Of cos I know the discussion Sir and I also know that you are not Muslim, I chipped that in to answer the question you asked.

Sorry if that seems barging in on your Convo!

Ken4Christ:
It's the plan truth. The words of our Lord Jesus can't fall to the ground. He is Lord.

ANTIlSLAM:
Kikikikikikiki na u be the wise man be dat oo bah

ANTIlSLAM:
He's doing a poor job for hammering your agbari with the truth.. Tell your second to get you a copy of Torah, I want to show you something that will finish you kpatakpata

SIRTee15:
Highlighted is the exact answer I'm looking for. U do biopsy first to know if the lump/tissue is cancer or not. Others are secondary, if lump isn't cancer, why do want to grade or stage what's non existent.
So why did u say this below....
jaephoenix:

No. The essence of biopsy is to know the specific cervical cancer type which would determine the specific chemo to use. Why are you changing stance?

SIRTee15:
This is the one you posted..

This is the first documented case of clinically
evident visceral metastases of a bronchiogenic adenocarci-
noma developing after complete resection of the primary
and then showing complete SR. The epidemiology of SR is
reviewed and possible mechanisms involved in SR are dis-
cussed.
Above is not what I'm looking for- your case had treatment.
I can't find anything in other links- look for them and post here. U are the one making a claim not me.
I'm looking for SR in a stage 4 metastatic cancer WITHOUT ANY THERAPY.

Ken4Christ:
Apostle Paul in human and liable to make grammatical errors.

Ken4Christ:
Waste of time talking to you. You have made up your mind on what to believe. Please, don't cry too much when you get to hell. It's your chosen destiny.

Lukuluku69:
Islam fixed that Sir!

Iblis/Satan is said to be a Jinn in the Quran. And like humans, the Jinns are Free willed beings.

As for Angels, they obey the commands of their Lord.

TenQ:
Is it so difficult!?

You accused me of something derogatory
I said it is UNTRUE!
Supply your evidence

Is it impossible?
The record is there bro, there is no way I could have erased it!

Wannabe Atheist School boy argument amount to nothing!

SIRTee15:
We talking of 2 different things.
Pls let's not turn this thread into medical. Just go to Google and bring an evidence of spontaneous remission of stage 4 cancer without therapy.
Just one and I will give it to u. Seriously, it will rest.

SIRTee15:
You obviously confused and not ff the thread of conversation anymore since they are too many.
I replied your mention where u were talking about chemo being used for palliative care. It had nothing to do with the index woman.
This is my reply to your queries if the woman had treatment...
jaephoenix:

1. You said all I said was speculation? How do you know?
2. I know stage 4 CAs falls into palliative care. But they still receive chemo and radio. My question is was she on those treatments before they took her away?

2. Nope.
But common be real. So u expecting chemo and radio to do the magic for a metastatic cancer. It makes them worse if anything. Esp in Nigeria where adjuvant treatment support is poor.
Look here, the woman has received her healing, let's move on.
I can tell u another one I witnessed in uch if u interested. I get them plenty for pocket. MIRACLE IS REAL.

Oga I dont need your googled answers. I wont allow u turn this into a medical thread.
Answer simple basic medical questions? So when a woman comes to u with breast lump, whats the primary reason u would do a biopsy on the lump? To know the grade of her cancer or to know if she actually has cancer?
So those tissues from the bowel and the lump, why do we send them for biopsy?
If u have to Google to answer the above questions, then u are not a doctor.

advocatejare:
You’re learning fast. Kudos

advocatejare:
Grow some ball dude go and watch your porn