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Christianity EtcRe: Warning To Born Again Christians And Pastors Who Became Athiest by jaephoenix(m): 1:56pm On Apr 28, 2023
FxMasterz:
That's the same response a blind man would give you when you talk to him about the man which he can never see or feel.

You can't see what I see become u have sights while you lack it. May God heal your soul.
I see the Holy Limbs of Flying Spaghetti Monster in your life. Give in to him now or burn forever.
You can't see what I see become u have sights while you lack it. May Flying Spaghetti Monster heal your soul
Christianity EtcRe: Warning To Born Again Christians And Pastors Who Became Athiest by jaephoenix(m): 1:54pm On Apr 28, 2023
Image123:
What is Viking hell? Do you have hope of eternity?
Niflheim. You're doomed there if you don't accept Thor
Christianity EtcRe: Warning To Born Again Christians And Pastors Who Became Athiest by jaephoenix(m): 1:53pm On Apr 28, 2023
Image123:
i am telling you of many people, not limited to your mushroom experience.
And those people can lie?
Are aware many people in many religions can swear that their gods are real, and yours is fake, and when you ask them why, they say the exact thing you say now?
Christianity EtcRe: Warning To Born Again Christians And Pastors Who Became Athiest by jaephoenix(m): 1:51pm On Apr 28, 2023
Image123:
Advantages that you saw a flying unicorn today, not advantages of compelling me to believer you. Don't get your boxers twisted around your head already.
Are you telling me what you can tell me or what you know? i talk about reality, what we have seen and handled, remember? Not just typing letters together to form sentences like you are in an English lesson center practicing typing.
When has someone's testimony suddenly become reality? How do you know they didn't lie?
Christianity EtcRe: Warning To Born Again Christians And Pastors Who Became Athiest by jaephoenix(m): 1:50pm On Apr 28, 2023
FxMasterz:
Meanwhile the non existent demons are the ones responsible for your spiritual blindness.
Well, you are spiritually blind. Because if you aren't, you'll know Flying Spaghetti Monster created you
Christianity EtcRe: Warning To Born Again Christians And Pastors Who Became Athiest by jaephoenix(m): 1:48pm On Apr 28, 2023
FxMasterz:
Most atheist don't know they're demon possessed.

I thank God for your recovery. Welcome back home. May the Lord sustain you to the end.

Please there's something I want you to shed more light on.

I've met Atheists who speak very arrogantly and go to extreme lengths to speak blasphemously against God. All Atheists do it but there are some who go to the extreme. Here on Nairaland, a guy called maynman fits this descriprion. Can you please tell me what makes them do so? Is it because they resent God that much? Is it a demon operating through them? Is it because they've totally convinced themselves that there's no God?
It baffles me so much. Whatt exactly went wrong in their lives? Thanks for the answers in advance.
Why do you resent Allah, Flying Spaghetti Monster and Thor so much? Is it a jinn that is bothering you?
Christianity EtcRe: Why Churches Are Very Useless by jaephoenix(m): 1:46pm On Apr 28, 2023
coputa:
You pray to talk to God,it's a spiritual exercise.But God does not hear the prayers of a sinner,infact it's an abomination unto God.
So what are you talking or discussing with Yahweh? Sports? Politics? Bodrisky's panty color? undecided
Christianity EtcRe: Why Churches Are Very Useless by jaephoenix(m): 1:41pm On Apr 28, 2023
coputa:
for spiritual growth.
What is the importance of spiritual growth?
Christianity EtcRe: Why Churches Are Very Useless by jaephoenix(m): 1:40pm On Apr 28, 2023
eventainment:
I wish Gbile Akanni was advert. Bear in mind it's not a church but a fellowship and no them no de collect offering
Doesn't matter. Na advert
Christianity EtcRe: Why Churches Are Very Useless by jaephoenix(m): 1:40pm On Apr 28, 2023
northbird:
The problem with most of you folks is ,you don't study the scriptures yourself, you then come back and lump all pastor's into one group.

Nobody is going to pray for you more than yourself..so if you have any issues in life, locate relevant scriptures in that area and begin to affirm the truth.
So why can't the amputees get healed
Christianity EtcRe: Why Churches Are Very Useless by jaephoenix(m): 1:39pm On Apr 28, 2023
northbird:
You don't know your scriptures. Jesus commended the centurion's faith, Jesus was amazed at his level of faith. because Jesus wanted to come in person physically to their house, but centurion said, Just say a word, and my daughter will be healed , that is great faith..
I didn’t say the centurion didn’t have faith. Remember you folks said the OPs uncle didn’t have enough faith, yet he prayed, fasted etc. He was even a Christian, and the centurion wasn't even a Christian, yet got healed
Christianity EtcRe: Why Churches Are Very Useless by jaephoenix(m): 1:38pm On Apr 28, 2023
northbird:
Read the events in John , Martha had faith that if Jesus had come earlier, things would have been better, but Jesus was saying, Have faith,regardless of how bad the situation is?
So Martha 's faith
Okay. So to you that's faith.
So what is different from what she did to what OPs uncle did? In his case, he fasted, prayed etc. Martha didn’t do all that, yet Lazarus was healed
Christianity EtcRe: Why Churches Are Very Useless by jaephoenix(m): 1:36pm On Apr 28, 2023
northbird:
What do you understand by HIV..? If I may ask you.
By my understanding of HIv+,it means the immunity of the blood cells have been compromised, cells too can heal themselves..and regain the immunity they previously lost.
Okay. Lemme educate you a bit.
In HIV/AIDS the white blood cells cannot fight microbes as they used to. Thus inflammatory responses needed for healing etc are impaired. So obviously you are saying the healing caused the white blood cells to regain their inflammatory functions.
So are you saying in cases of limb amputation both traumatic and auto amputation, the healing cannot work?
Christianity EtcRe: Why Churches Are Very Useless by jaephoenix(m): 1:31pm On Apr 28, 2023
northbird:
Faith is seeing the true reality of things and not giving validation to negative news which will in turn produce effects on the body and it's functions.

Let me give you an example,
If I told you ,
1. You have been given a new 3 bedroom apartment for life., how would you feel,you will feel elated,so also all the organs of the body.

2. Your new 3 bedroom apartment has been demolished by the state government..,how would you feel, downcast, 😔, so also the organs and functions of the body.

Two scenarios, both are not true,but they will nevertheless physically impact the functions of the body through the mind that receives and dwell on such thoughts,whether true or untrue.

That is how faith works, holding on to the truth ...
Whoa. Interesting…
Which organs of the body are specifically impacted by news?
How does this last sentence impact on your post. Don't you think its completely disconnected?
Christianity EtcRe: Why Churches Are Very Useless by jaephoenix(m): 12:40pm On Apr 28, 2023
northbird:
What do you mean by amputee healed..? You mean you believe a miracle ,if it grows back? That's ridiculous.
Oh its ridiculous grin
Someone with HIV can be healed. But an amputee can't have his limbs regrow. God of the impossibility grin
Lol, now this knocked me out.
Your honor, I rest my case
Christianity EtcRe: Why Churches Are Very Useless by jaephoenix(m): 12:38pm On Apr 28, 2023
northbird:
Don't be angry over nothing. Faith is what connects you to the miraculous. Dropping money or donating will never equal word generated faith within you.
So which faith did the dead Lazarus have?
Christianity EtcRe: Why Churches Are Very Useless by jaephoenix(m): 12:37pm On Apr 28, 2023
northbird:
1. I don't know that.

2. Go and read well about the centurion as regards faith..

3. Things don't just happen, they are made to happen.

4. Never seen one. We are talking of healing not regrowth of human limbs.
1. Good. You don't know. So don't judge
2. We're talking about the daughter who has the disease, not the centurion. Besides, the centurion didn't fast, pray, go to the mountain, all he did was ask his daughter to be healed, and boom, it happened.
3. Obviously you haven't read that part of your Bible properly. I suggest you go back and read it
4. Bro, so a limb regrowing isn't a healing? Really? shocked
Christianity EtcRe: Why Churches Are Very Useless by jaephoenix(m): 12:33pm On Apr 28, 2023
Westerhoffe:
If you don't understand, have any idea or experience, then it's no use trying to explain.
You love dodging questions. You said all diseases are either spiritual or natural. Someone asked you which ones are spiritual, you reply him that if he doesn't have any experience, he'll not understand. If I have an experience of the 'spiritual disease' would I be asking you?
Sies! angry
Christianity EtcRe: Why Churches Are Very Useless by jaephoenix(m): 12:31pm On Apr 28, 2023
Westerhoffe:
With GOD, all things are possible.
I asked a simple question and its yes or no. You said you have seen many miracles(which are all staged), so I ask you again, have you or any chrissie here seem any amputee limb regrow? See amputees are 2 a dime these days. They even litter the roads. There are at least 7 orthopedic hospitals in Nigeria, each with a teeming population of amputees. Yet not even one, just one, has been healed. What does that tell you?
Christianity EtcRe: Why Churches Are Very Useless by jaephoenix(m): 12:24pm On Apr 28, 2023
coputa:
How does God pour blessing on the wicked,is it temporary blessings of the wicked that you termed God's blessings.Some wealthy people who got their wealth from the devil,some decades ago,are now the poorest in their locality.God's blessings endureth forever., the devil's is for a while.
Are you aware some people who 'got their wealth from yahweh' are equally broke?
Christianity EtcRe: Why Churches Are Very Useless by jaephoenix(m): 12:23pm On Apr 28, 2023
coputa:
Is mostly when you are doing the right thing that God's grace normally got activated.As a student you must study hard to pass your exams first before praying for grace, ditto a sick person who is sick should see a doctor for proper diagnosis and treatment first before backing it with prayers and maybe healing from a pastor.
The pastor is not a doctor to consult when you are sick,the pastor is not your books to consult when you want to pass your exam.Grace always visits at the place of your works,Works in all ramifications.Grace doesn't come when you are doing the wrong thing.
Why exactly then do you pray?
Christianity EtcRe: Why Churches Are Very Useless by jaephoenix(m): 12:19pm On Apr 28, 2023
Ylink4sure:
Your uncle went to a man in this case with a title (Pastor) and not God. He should have gone to God and going to God doesn't necessarily mean stepping out to anywhere. Afterall,Jesus indicated that the best prayer are said on our knees,alone, behind closed doors. The pertinent issue is did he have a personal relationship with God. It is better to have that relationship with God and go to him in terms of crisis than to allow crisis compel us to rush to God for a miracle. Even at that even with a relationship with him anything can happen! Remember,he said he'll have mercy on whom he chooses! A relationship with him increases your chances of victory over troubles.

See,God is complete! He doesn't need you,it is you that needs him! So,you can decide to give up on God, he won't stop you for the same reason he hasn't compelled you to serve him!
OP said he has gone to Yahweh severally, nothing happened. Thus he went to the pastor
Christianity EtcRe: Why Churches Are Very Useless by jaephoenix(m): 12:18pm On Apr 28, 2023
lereinter:
I agree that there are many scam pastors now, infact listening to radio is enough to know

The ones that are not selling oil and water are doing marketing for travel agents to carry people to Israel and Jordan

But you must understand that God only heals not any pastor

Jesus Christ told the blind man He heal, not to go back to sin else worst thing would happen

Do you know some things are punishment from a misdeed and sin


Everyone is going to die, and the utmost is that you reach heaven

Many of the apostles were killed in gruesome ways, but they already saw where they were going


Either in pain or not, the utmost is to serve God and be holy
Like what things? And whats the punishment
Christianity EtcRe: Why Churches Are Very Useless by jaephoenix(m): 12:17pm On Apr 28, 2023
coputa:
Churches are not useless,it's the followers and the pastors that are practicing it wrongly especially in the African continent.
There is this wrong notion that it Is the pastor that will heal you and solve your spiritual problems,no,the church is to build your faith and beliefs,and when is done every other thing Will fall in place.
Many pastors has noticed this and they have taken great advantage of it to swindle guilible adherents.
Church is not useless.
What is the usefulness of churches?
Christianity EtcRe: Why Churches Are Very Useless by jaephoenix(m): 12:15pm On Apr 28, 2023
northbird:
Sorry about the loss.. it's painful. But miracles are real....But .. the most important factor in invoking the miracle is always the subject/sick person.
"The just shall live by his faith"

Not the preacher's faith,or pastor's faith or congregation faith, but your own faith. Most people don't know this open truth.


Faith comes by raising your consciousness through self affirmations of healing verses ( repetitive confession ,like 7 times daily of different verses .In the orients, it's known as chanting mantras.. Till the verses enters the subconscious, where instructions will be given to the cancerous cells to stop replication and begin the restorative process at the cellular level.

The body has the power to heal itself, it's a latent power ,most people don't engage it.
Drugs and medical intervention just aid. The real healing is from the host/body itself
1. How do you know the deceased and others like him didn't do such or more, and still didn't get healed?
2. Did the daughter of the centurion healed by Jesus undergo such rigors or hoopla. Matter of fact, how many of those jesus healed went through all that? Only thing Jesus said was their faith healed them, but I never read anywhere any of the sick was not healed because of 'insufficient faith'
3. How come miracles don't happen these days despite Jesus saying wonders would be more in the later days?
4. Finally, how many amputee limbs have you seen regrow
Christianity EtcRe: Why Churches Are Very Useless by jaephoenix(m): 12:11pm On Apr 28, 2023
Westerhoffe:
I am not trying to infuriate anyone here. Read my comment properly and understand.

The closeness those prophets of GOD the children of Israel go to, do you know how well they maintain it before and with GOD?

Or have you not read what GOD said about a prophet He did not choose Himself?

Was Moses the one doing all what he was doing then by his own powers?
Which of the self acclaimed prophets/pastors today are willing to become Spirits in human bodies like those prophets of GOD in those days?

Do you think it's just by screaming, "I command healing to your body!" at the name of Jesus and everything will just be happening?

Most pastors today don't even know GOD!
Understand what I am trying to make you realize!!

When JESUS CHRIST spoke in:

Matthew 17 (KJV)
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²⁰ And Jesus said unto them, Because of your unbelief: for verily I say unto you, If ye have faith as a grain of mustard seed, ye shall say unto this mountain, Remove hence to yonder place; and it shall remove; and nothing shall be impossible unto you.
²¹ Howbeit this kind goeth not out but by prayer and fasting.


Do you realize that GOD does not even recognize some of these Pastors/ministers that are leading you, but which many are following sheepishly?

To be a true Man of GOD to the level of laying hands on the sick and they getting healed is not achieved by the loudness of your prayers on the microphone and the air you blow into the microphone to polish your glory before men. It is achieved by your closeness to GOD, your relationship with the Almighty and your hotness in the HOLY SPIRIT.

All sicknesses are natural or spiritual.
So the power to reverse it when it defies medicines is in the hands of GOD alone, not in the hands of pastors… they're not GOD.

And the issue is, most of them today are only seeking their own fame and glory.

That a pastor is shouting and sighing does not make him or give him the power to be able to heal the sick, please.
Pray sir, what sicknesses are spiritual?
Patiently waiting for your enlightening answer
Christianity EtcRe: Why Churches Are Very Useless by jaephoenix(m): 12:08pm On Apr 28, 2023
eventainment:
Well, the question I will ask is do you love God?
If yes!
Then it is written: if you love Me keep my commandments!
And one of the commandments states thus: do not forsake the congregation of the RIGHTEOUS.
Instead of not going at all be attending Gbile Akanni fellowships: Living Seed (Peace House) is not a church but a fellowship where Christians from different denominations meet to expose Gods word.
This one don dey don advert sharp sharp
Christianity EtcRe: Why Churches Are Very Useless by jaephoenix(m): 12:07pm On Apr 28, 2023
IamANigerianMan:
May his soul rest in peace, bro, the truth is that God works wonders and perform miracles not a pastor, please , note, God is not a magician he is a miracle worker, God is not babalawo, God is God, your uncle cannot start run from church to church because he needed miracle, how was his relationship with God? Does he know what God says concerning his heath in the bible? 3Jn2, Ps103:1-3, Ps91:14,16, Jer 30:17, 17,14, Ex 15:26, Ex 23:25-26 etc brother let be genuine with God and enjoy our inheritance (Divine health) instead running to God in sin.. I pray your own life is useful to God now.
Have you seen an amputee healed
Christianity EtcRe: Why Churches Are Very Useless by jaephoenix(m): 12:06pm On Apr 28, 2023
FRANCISTOWN:
Abobi biko, no just vex people here. Them no get faith for inside Jesus yet them carry am go church.
No be in Jesus name the pastor take pray? Why them no carry am go mosque or shrine?

Una go dey do like say na una Sabi pass.
So them do wrongly unto say them carry the man go Church huh? Akwana? Those ones wey them dey carry go TB Joshua wey them go dey alright nko?(though we know say all those ones na staged)

And how e take wrong say people believe in their pastors? Even the buybull encourages the faithfool to believe in their pastors
2Chro 20:20 "....Believe in the LORD your God, so shall ye be established; believe his prophets, so shall ye prosper. " .

When the children of Isrealites needed anything, they went straight to their prophets, because prophets are said to be the mouth piece of God.

It's obvious you guys don't know anything about that book you carry about.

I can give you many instances in the Bible where believing in prophets yielded good results. So stop acting like you know all
Ask him if the daughter of the centurion that was allegedly healed by Jesus had faith
Christianity EtcRe: Why Churches Are Very Useless by jaephoenix(m): 12:04pm On Apr 28, 2023
woginid967:
You think i am just gistin?

Bro I have been healed before.... It works.... Na una no know how to waka .

Men dey.... Legit Spiritual work dey wey dey work fast.
Healed of what, sir? grin
Christianity EtcRe: Why Churches Are Very Useless by jaephoenix(m): 12:02pm On Apr 28, 2023
Westerhoffe:
Churches are not useless.

I'm sorry about the loss of your uncle, but too many things are just not right in the pictures.

The isue with most of you is that, you don't really have faith in GOD, but you want Him blasting miracles down on you before you can believe, meanwhile, the Bible says without faith, it is impossible to please GOD.

Why do you think JESUS CHRIST mostly tell those He healed that aacording to their faith, let it be unto them?

Your uncle sowing ₦400,000 as a seed shows he thought he is paying for the miracle he thought he has received.

The pastor collecting the money as a seed is a glutton who thinks he can sell GOD'S actions for money.

There are too many errors in the picture.

GOD cures and heals for real.
I have witnessed many of such live experiences.
But you see most of those moG who claims to bind and banish are only shouting that to make themselves relevant to the congregation. GOD does not work through a proud vessel who thinks they are the ones doing the works because they're a pastor/minister.

Who has the power to alter nature and even reverse it if not GOD?
Do you even know if that pastor is close enough to GOD to bring GOD'S hands down into action?

Miracles and healings are not done by the screamings and shoutings and groanings and belchings and jumpings of any pastors. Miracles are done by GOD. So what do you now expect when you go to a pastor for a miracle and not to GOD?

If your uncle had been healed, do you think that Pastor would have given GOD the glory or claimed it to himself as a strong moG?

He refused to announce your uncle had died because he doesn't want to be seen as someone whose prayers cannot heal like he is the one to make your uncle whole in GOD'S stead.

Know who you go to as a Man of GOD, because majority of those around now are men of the Bellies.

You just learnt a lesson the bitter way, that not all men are of GOD.
Have you seen an amputee limb regrow? Yes or no grin
Christianity EtcRe: Why Churches Are Very Useless by jaephoenix(m): 11:51am On Apr 28, 2023
ChybuzzDD:
Just pray you don't get cancer or any other terminal disease one of these days.

You'll be forced to learn the truth about religion
..and those that have cancer got healed by your Yahweh?

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