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ANTIlSLAM:
Someone here is lecturing and correcting on what you called Bible gaffes isn't it?


Are you aware that allah claimed to have revealed many books in the Bible, this is the same book you're condemning


Tell your brother to get you a copy of Torah I want to show u something maybe your brain go reset

… and he's doing a poor job of it. He needs help from you

advocatejare:
Lukuluku69 is not very sane, once he can’t answer your questions, he will start insulting you.


When they claim that Muhammad is mentioned in the Bible, this is what they mean

Reading through your posts, its a no-brainer the insults emanated from you

xproducer:
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The Lord YESHUA, the CHRIST is Wonderful (Isaiah 9:6)...

The point in quoting from the Holy Bible is that everything that is in dispute (by the op and those like him) is a misapprehension of truth and either way, does not negate all the Holy Scripture that I quoted... plus, it puts the reader on notice about their error!

When all is said and done what does one say to one's MAKER, particularly in light of all HIS merciful revelations to mankind? Tomorrow is not guaranteed to anyone.

Hebrews 9:27
And as it is appointed for men to die once, but after this the judgment,

So are you saying there is another version of the bible you're using because clearly those things are written and are as clear as day and night

advocatejare:
You were born a Christian, you wrote somewhere that if you can give a chick two orgasms in 1min, you will stop praying to God. So your reason for leaving Christianity is clear and it’s similar to what Islam promises, sexual pleasure in their paradise no wonder Muslim like antiChristian is hailing you, you guys have things in common. You even wrote somewhere that the person you were planning to marry is a bisexual, and you were proud of saying it.

When I saw that post, I knew you were not normal, a normal man won’t want a wife that will be sleeping with him and with another woman. You really need God or at least numerous antipsychotics

If you have any questions pertaining to the Bible, why not ask your other family member who are still in Christianity? They are your responsibilities not us, they were the ones that failed to guide you right

Ah, the regular blackmails chrissies employ.
1. Even if that talk about giving 2 chicks orggasmm wasn't a joke, its not related to religion at all. Christians say and do worse. Yet remain Christians.
2. What if I marry a bi? Is that any business of yours? At least I'm straight. Even if I'm gay, still no business of yours. And not in any way related to this debate. Christians even do worse. Many are gays and some are pedophilic gays like priests. I don't judge them
3. Why would I be taking antipsychotics? Do you even know what they are, or you pull up words from your ignorant ass and toss out around.
4. And just another poor effort to derail this thread. Nice try

TenQ:
Don't give your pearls to the pigs.

How on earth you want them to understand that they have goofed in their understanding that
Foreknowledge is different from Predestination
How can they be made to understand that God being JUST prevent him from Predestinating anyone for heaven or hell.
How do you want to explain that FREEWILL and predestination does not go together!

You can debate Atheists on Philosophy or Logic or Science BUT it is a waste of Everything to debate Scriptures or Religion with them.

Don't give your pearls to the Pig!

If u wanna debate me, come out and do it. Not side debate that you'll talk and run

TenQ:
What is your Evidence that Moses copied from the Epic of Gilgamesh?

Simple. The concepts of virgin birth, global flood, resurrection etc were copied from Epic of Gilgamesh which was proven to be written hundreds of years before the bible

TenQ:
Post your evidence of me dodging you.
QED!

Go through your posts and check where LordReed an I grilled you. And another where I and one another person( I think Workch) grilled you where you were talking about science but you got eaten alive. And said you have no business with atheists

TenQ:
The books of the Muslims talk about events and people in my Religion. We this have a common ground.

What ground do you have with Christians?

I was an ex christian. So I understand certain jargons you use, even better than a muslim

SIRTee15:
I know what u and maynman are trying to do. U people are looking for excuse not to be held responsible for your bad choices.
By claiming your destiny is irreversible then u can blame the creator for giving u a bad script to play out.
Let me tell u the truth, disobedient children will not escape judgement.
Adam tried that script with God in Eden, when he blamed his woes on the woman 'God gave him'. God didn't reply him but went straight to judgement.
That's how it's going to be for all rebellious souls.

Now this cracked me up
Youre telling an atheist he wants to escape judgment.
This is like telling a christian that he'll burn in Niflheim(Viking hell) when he doesn't believe in it.
Just save your precious breath.
You probably don’t know who an atheist is

SIRTee15:
God is a spirit. He has no body. Read bible in context.

Oh, Sweet Jesus!
Did you read the bible verses where some people even said they dined with Yahweh face to face? Even Jacob fought him?

SIRTee15:
I think this has to do with choices made man
Already answered. No need going around in circles.
The problem is you and maynman wants the redefine definition of all knowing God.

Can you defined omniscient again?

omniscient
/ɒmˈnɪsɪənt/
adjective
knowing everything.

From those bible versed I quoted, DOES YAHWEH KNOW EVERYTHING? No! If he did, why would he take Israel on a merry-go-round to ascertain if they really love him? He'll simply tell them straight-up from the beginning that he knows they are rebellious.
If he's omniscient why would be tell Abraham to tie up his son, to sacrifice him, then stop him when he was about stabbing the poor terrified boy? What if his instructions to stop was too late, na so Abraham for stab the boy. An all knowing god would already know Abraham is loyal and tell him straight up.
Do you understand now?

SIRTee15:
1. Where did I say that? Read my definition of man.
2. Our duty as man is not to ask questions but to obey God. A creature shouldn't be questioning his creator. Each time we obey God it gladens him and releases power for us to fulfil purpose. That's what is expected of Adam in the Garden.

1. You said this
Only spirit is from God, body is from earth and he gave man a soul. The soul isn't part of God.
Adam had knowledge and intelligence that came from God. How was he able to tend the soil and gives names without knowledge. Man desired wisdom to make him like GOd, that was his greed.
God doesn't think sin, it's against his nature. His thoughts for us are good and pure.
Adam had the choice to either obey God and live or disobey him and accept the consequence. It had nothing to do with God.

[b]God is not responsible for the carnality of mankind. That was man's soul. [/b]Yes it's your right to disobey him and choose not to follow him.
But remember there's judgement and it's his right to execute judgement the way he deems fit.
If that's the case I wonder why we wasted 2 pages debating God's judgement on the disobedient souls in Noah's time. If it was their right to disobey God, why cry loud when God enforce his own right of judgment.

What does the bolded mean

SIRTee15:
2. Nope.
But common be real. So u expecting chemo and radio to do the magic for a metastatic cancer. It makes them worse if anything. Esp in Nigeria where adjuvant treatment support is poor.
Look here, the woman has received her healing, let's move on.
I can tell u another one I witnessed in uch if u interested. I get them plenty for pocket. MIRACLE IS REAL.

Chemo and radio can be used in palliative care. You need to read up

SIRTee15:
Bible said so, noah was the only righteous man on earth at that time. For all the people had corrupted their ways and became very violent. Gen 6.12.


Did I mention noah warned anybody?


Of course it will. Who will want his head chopped off on a block. I doubt u will last a day in the midst of those hyenas. The era of noah was hundred times worse.

Yes, we sure have more than one righteous man now. And men of good morals abound.
God protected Noah.
it was a small boat and it took him 50 years to build. That was enough time for couple of guys and women to finish the work.

You call an ark a small boat? Really?
Can a small boat accommodate all the animals in the world?

SIRTee15:
Your mentions too many to keep up. Same thing dancing around in circles. Now u ve jumped to original sin and why Christ didn't come earlier.
Let me ask you question. if Christ had come b4 the flood, what would have changed? Are u assuming there will be no judgement because Christ came earlier. Now that he had come, are u aware Jesus is coming back to enforce justice on the disobedient like yourself.
Christ came at the right time, when man had realised the carnal flesh cannot successfully fulfill the law, thus appreciating the work of Christ on the cross.

Finally u and maynman need to understand God has given man a choice via his soul. God made man with his own independent will- God will not make a decision for man.
Whatever decision man makes, God knows the outcome right from the beginning, but God will not force his will on mankind even if it's self destructive. You have to responsible for the choice u make so u can be rightly judged.
That's what set man apart and unique from other God's creation like angels, the right to make a choice- freewill.

After the flood, man had 2 choices, to repent and obey God or to revert to their evil ways of disobedience.
Your erroneous assumption here is to conclude God should know they will continue to sin so the previous judgement was a waste.
But even if God judges the world a million times, the next man would still be given that right to make a choice of who to follow. That's why he's a man and that's the only way his impending judgement can be deemed fair.
Understanding above answers a lot of your other questions.

Sorry, was Lucifer an angel?

SIRTee15:
Ok let me tell u why God made man.
God wanted beings that will obey and worship him because they choose to.
Celestial beings don't have that choice, they are all compelled to obey and worship God.
Now God gave man a soul that makes decision for him. Of course God wants us to worship him but he wants it to come from our free will. With the help of the spirit , it was meant to be obedience to God forever.
God gave Adam that choice in the garden. It was left for Adam to choose his path based on the leading of his soul.

Are angels amongst these celestial beings?

SIRTee15:
Actually there are more more people converting from Islam to Christianity than Christianity to Islam.
Above is according to pew research.
The problem is people who have never been to the door of a church since they were christened will join Islam and start claiming they left Christianity.
Which Christianity? Some of them couldn't even say the Lord's prayer.

The reason why Islam is appealing in the western world is multifactorial.
1. Christianity is dying in the west and compromising to a ridiculous extent. Immigrants churches that are suppose to fill the void are too clannish and doesn't appeal to the indigenes.
Westerners who desire spirituality will gravitate to the next religion available which is Islam.

2. Westerners are adventurous in nature, that's who they are. They love to explore new and novel things. There's nothing new about Christianity. It's been with them for thousands of years.
They are curious about this strange religion called Islam. Well they say curiosity killed the cat but even we blacks have benefited from this curiosity.
For those who don't know the segregation law against blacks in the west was centred around protecting the white woman from the 'dangerous' black man.
Most case of lynching of blacks and destruction of black properties by whites always start with the rallying cry 'a black man has assaulted a white woman'. The next thing is a white mob attack in black neighborhood.
Yet today the commonest interracial marriage in the world is between the black man and the white woman. The white women were curious to know about this dangerous black man.
I strongly believe if ifa religion is repackaged, modernised and reintroduced with a strong global appeal. The biggest converts will be westerners and not Yorubas.

3. Muslim offers a strong community that other religion lacks. This may not be a big deal in the most cultures where community is everything irrespective of religion but it's a big deal in the west where individualism is the norm.
Vulnerable people who need support will find Islam as a choice. Most converts don't even understand the religion itself but that community support and protection it gives is a big deal esp to those with personality problems.

4. Now this is the most important. Islam in the west is a watered down version of real islam. Muslims in the west don't practice islam, instead they exercise their right to freedom of religious expression as it suits them. What this means is they are very selective in what they practice. That right is protected and enforced by western law.
Islam in the west offer the goodies in it without burdening u with the bitterness experienced by Muslims in other parts of the world, the toxic and extreme form of Islam which is the true Islam dare not rear it's head in the west. Unfortunately this make islam look good in the west.

Thats a big lie. Pew research gotten from questionaires state there are more christian to atheist conversion, then christian to muslim conversion, than muslim to christian conversion. Stop all these lies

SIRTee15:
As I challenged that atheist in the other thread and he ran away. I will challenge u to tell me of any miracle you ve ever witnessed in your life. Like a miraculous event that defies any logical or scientific explanation.
In my work in the medical field, I ve seen miraculous healing both on Nigeria and oversea.
Miracles ain't for everybody. Jesus didn't open the eyes of all the blind in Judea otherwise there will be none left for Peter to open their eyes in the act of apostles.
I understand miracles is no big deal to u guys in Islam because Muhammad never did a miracle. They had to wait 200 yrs after his death to start fabricating miracles for him.

Which atheist did you challenge and that ran away? You talked about a woman getting healed about stage 4 cervical CA and I gave you scientific evidence that many people irrespective of religion, race and nationality have spontaneous carcinomatous remission. Those people did not pray to any yahweh for healing, yet got healed. Is that too much for you to understand?

SIRTee15:
I sincerely don't understand what u trying to pass across here. Makes no sense to me.

Obviously you have no idea what the word Destiny is.
Religion has twisted it out of context

SIRTee15:
U will have to give me your definition of destiny because this irreversible destiny makes me doubt u are atheist.
Are u telling me a child born today has his destiny already fixed and nothing can change it.
You mean a child that doesn't even understand any sense of danger is already destined to be an armed robber or prostitute in life. And there's nothing he/she can do about it.
Even, if I'm not a Christian, I will never believe we come from some where to fulfil a definite script in life.
Irreversible destiny is nonsense. Family, genetics and environment determines our personality and greatly influence our future outcomes.
A child who grew up in a loving home with 2 parents, went to good schools and raised in a conducive environment will likely succeed in life compared to someone lacking above.
Go to prison and check the backgrounds of the inmates, it look similar - dysfunctional homes, poor education, grew up in bad neighborhood.
Guy, there's nothing like irreversible destiny. It's the choices u make today reflects on your tomorrow.
So if we have irreversible destiny, then Africa is destined to be forever poor, poverty infested, plagued with wars and famine and nothing Africans can do about it

That is why I asked you to define Destiny? Obviously you don't know what it is? Nigerian pastors have trusted that were beyond recognition.
This is the definition of destiny from Merriam-Webster.
1
: something to which a person or thing is destined : FORTUNE
wants to control his own destiny
2
: a predetermined course of events often held to be an irresistible power or agency
felt that destiny would determine their future
As you can see, its predetermined, meaning when one is born, what s/he'll be, his or her death age, wealthy or not, is already known and cannot be changed. No matter what s/he do.
I'm a fatalist atheist.
About African destiny, if its already pre-determined, then there's nothing you can do about it

SIRTee15:
If this is the best u can come up as evidence. Then u may not have managed lots of cancer pxt. That u even have to Google this up is funny, something that's quite common. Metastatic cancer is no longer death sentence compared to 1-2 decades ago.
One of my patient diagnosed of advanced squamous cell cancer of the mandible has now been told he's cancer free.
He had palliative radiotherapy last yr because they couldn't do surgery- tumour was too advance. Now the oncologist had written that he should be removed from cancer register because the cancer is cleared. I can't count cases like above I've encountered.
My own case is a woman who had fungating advanced cancer and it regressed without any treatment. So convenient it disappeared after meeting a man of God.
Ok let me be lenient. Post me cases of confirmed cancer diagnosis that regressed without treatment. Let's leave metastasis out of it.

1. Bro, I brought scientifically diagnosed cases from medical journals because anyone can claim anything online (myself included). And that example is better than me saying I know so-so and so person who had spontaneous remission after a late prostate cancer that has metastasized to the lung or liver.
2. And yes lots of people get cured of cancers worldwide, not just in nigeria. Thanks to science and not yahweh.
3. So you're saying your index patient never had a drop of chemo or ray of radio? How was the diagnosis of the late cervical CA made?

SIRTee15:
God sees all mankind in heaven. That's your final destination if you follow his will.
It's your choice not to make heaven, he can't drag u to where u don't want to go.

Looks like you don't understand. Ok lemme break it down.
Before we are born, yahweh knows if we are gonna make heaven or not, right? And this(making or losing heaven) happens irrespective of whatever we do on earth: its our destiny, right?
So why watch us get born and give us this notion of 'freewill' when its already predetermined?

SIRTee15:
What's the elephant in the room. Sincerely can't remember.

Ok. Lemme refresh.
1. Who created the concept of death for sin? Yahweh. Is it possible for him to forgive as an omnibenevolent god? Yes. There you go! A god that does not want to forgive the sin of his creations but instead imposes the law that they die or he kills his own son to appease himself for their sins. DO YOU UNDERSTAND WHY HE IS NOT OMBIBENEVOLENT?

2. There is further indictment for Yahweh. He purportedly created humans and the earth, including evil too , so why is he angry at the outcome of his creations?
Besides he is omniscient so knows how Lucifer would deceive and con Adam via the tree of knowledge, yet he went ahead to create both Lucifer and the tree(he even gave the tree luscious fruits and kept it in the middle of the Garden where Adam and Eve would be able to admire it) and got angry when the inevitable happened.
3. You seem not to understand the plot. Yahweh knew all along that man would sin again after even after he destroys us with the flood. So why kill everyone in the first place? Why not kill his son first ab initio instead of the flood, since he is so bloodthirsty.
4. CAN AN OMNISCIENT AND ALL-KNOWING GOD REGRET ON HIS ACTIONS OR BE SURPRISED BY THE ACTIONS OF HIS CREATIONS?
As a rejoinder, if yahweh knows the exact number of people making heaven, why charge christians on the Great Commission to preach the gospel all over the world?

SIRTee15:
He could have used the services of craftsmen willing to work in exchange for wages.
God's divine calling, the animals answered to the call of their creator. Just like Jesus called forth the fishes into Peter's net. Luk 5.4-6

Right, this is getting interesting
So the same vile sodom and gomorrah folks are working for Noah? Okay.
So Yahweh ranched all the animals in the world together? Are you aware all the animals couldn't have fitted into that ark? How did yahweh do that too?

Maynman:
You did not answer any of my questions, you were just contradicting yourself.
From saying your god knows possible choices to saying he knows exact choices yet you have freewill.


If God did not want man to commit the original sin, why did he give man a desire for knowledge, experience, adventure and carnal love?

The guy na master question dodger

SIRTee15:
Check fzmasterx response and my response to mayman. Most questions already answered, no need going on repetition.
Quote the direct word of God here. Can't go back and start searching, too many posts.
God doesn't sit a prophet down and tell him what to write verbatim, maybe with exception of Moses which he spoke with face to face. Numbers 12.8
God send his message in the spirit and the prophet delivers them in expressed languages that can't fully comprehend God's ways and thoughts, but the core message isn't lost which is the actual word of God, not the phrases or sentences used. That's why u read the bible in context.

Whoa. You ignored all the pertinent questions I asked you about yahweh's omniscience and ended with this? You even ignored the rebuttal about late cancers

Ken4Christ:
The Bible contains God's word. Not every content of the Bible is God's word. Even the words Satan spoke are written in the Bible.

There are some places men also wrote their personal opinion. For instance, some of the things Job said during the years of his afflictions were his personal opinions.

Even Apostle said in a verse that what he wrote was his opinion and not an instruction from the Lord.

God didn't dictate the writing of the books of the Bible.

The only passage that are clear instructions from God are the prophetic books and the specific instructions he gave to some of the saints of old.

The creation story was a revelation Moses received from God.

That God rested on the seventh day does not mean he was tired like we humans get tired. Spirits don't get tired.

He just wanted to institute a worship schedule which he did to the children of Israel. That day was chosen by God for them to devote themselves to worship.

Many other contents are historical. And as men are not perfect, you don't expect perfection in their report.

If two of us go to the scene of the same event and we are asked to put down what happened, you can be sure that we will present the story differently.

There are no contradictions in the Bible.

Tell me any contradiction from the book of the prophets. Show me where two different Prophets of old said two different things on the same thing.

It was stated in the bible that every word there is inspired and breathed by Yahweh. And any removal from it(which you are doing) would be met with stiff punishments. Be warned

advocatejare:
Deprive him of the attention, that is what he thrives on. You will see him vanish now

Let him go and meet his unloving parents to show him love and attention at home

Mentally, you're one of the dullest theists on Nairaland. And that's saying something, when you have contenders like Maxindhouse, Olaadegbu, Dtuthspeaker, Elated77

advocatejare:
Stop wasting your time on that boy called Maynman he’s not worth your attention. Deprive him of the attention he craves, his parents failed him, they were not good examples of Godly people to him so he hates God cos of the irresponsible nature of his parents. We can only pity him. Please leave him for now, let him sulk in silence!

But yet you won't let muslims rest

ANTIlSLAM:
The fool says in his heart, “There is no God.” They are corrupt, they do abominable deeds; there is none who does good.

And the wise man shouts aloud "There is no god"

advocatejare:
I have blacklisted you from the list of people that are worth my attention since. You’re too retarded to get my time, get lost! I don’t have time for kids!

The way you sissy chrissies run away from challenges is interesting. But you wanna challenge muslims. But you won't grow balls to challenge atheists

FxMasterz:
As I promised you yesterday, I've decided to expose your lies and deceit in rendering some of these verses out of context. I'll take 10 verses only even though you challenged me to pick only 1.

I'm not here to engage you. Engaging Atheists is a waste of time. They're not seekers of truth. They engage you to tell themselves they're intelligent while exhibiting a high level of folly.

Before I continue, I must let you know that the Bible was written by imperfect men urged on by the Spirit of God.

God uses men to mininster to men. Men are God's channels. Even though men are imperfect, God uses their imperfections to bless others as long as they're doing all they do in honesty and sincerity.

1 Corinthians 13:9-12 established that we know in part and prophesy in part. The perfect would come later but the perfect is not yet here.

When you read the Bible as a canal man, you are reading the imperfect letters of the Word. 2 Corinthians 3:6 says those letters kill. They don't give life.

That's why the first step into the things of God is a spiritual rebirth. When you approach the Bible as a spirit being, the Holy Ghost takes you beyond the limits of imperfect letters that kill. You're ushered into the deep things of God that are not available on the surface. The Spirit of God gives you life through those imperfect channels. God still uses Imperfect men today, and their words are still called 'The Word of God."

When you hear Christians saying they're going to church to listen to the Word of God. They're going to listen to an imperfect man who preaches behind a pulpit. His words may be imperfect. It could contains errors. But he preaches with all sincerity to the best of his knowledge. God uses his imperfect knowledge to bless the hearers.

The Bible itself does not lay any claim to perfection, so this thread of yours is useless.

Now, let me start addressing your issues. The deception in your post is too obvious.

1. God is satisfied with his works
Gen 1:31
God is dissatisfied with his works.
Gen 6:6.

I'll be as brief as I can.
In Genesis 1:31, the context was the entire work of creation. He was satisfied to see the physical replica of his thoughts. He achieved what He had in mind. They were as exact as He had intended them to be.

In Genesis 6:6, God was not dissatisfied with His works. That's a blatant lie. Quote the verse if I'm lying. God regretted creating man. That's the verse. Man isn't God's only work. He's just a very minute part of His entire creation. He regretted creating man because man misused his freewill which God had given him. Man reinvented himself. Ecclesiastes 7:29 sums it up:

[/b]"Behold, this only have I found: that God made man perfect; but they have sought out many inventions."[/b]

Only man o. Not His entire works.

2. God dwells in chosen temples
2 Chron 7:12,16
God dwells not in temples
Acts 7:48

In the Old Testament era, God related with man physically, and at the time, physical temples were the only meeting place with God. That's the context of 2 Chronicles 7. In the new testament, after the death and resurrection of Christ, God started relating with man spiritually. Men became God's Temples. That's the context of Acts 7. The former temple was a mere shadow. The later temple is the real deal.

3. God dwells in light
Tim 6:16
God dwells in darkness
1 Kings 8:12/ Ps 18:11/ Ps 97:2

God dwells in light but to those who are blind like yourself, God dwells in darkness. They can't see God. When the veil is removed off your face, and you begin to see clearly, you'll see God. But as long as Satan's veil of darkness remains upon you, you can't see God.

4. God is seen and heard
Ex 33:23/ Ex 33:11/ Gen 3:9,10/ Gen 32:30/ Is 6:1/
Ex 24:9-11
God is invisible and cannot be heard
John 1:18/ John 5:37/ Ex 33:20/ 1 Tim 6:16.

God is seen and heard by those to whom He reveals and manifests Himself. God is invisible but God does manifest. If you seek Him you'll find Him.

5. God is tired and rests
Ex 31:17
God is never tired and never rests
Is 40:28

First let me see where the verse says God was tired in that Genesis 2. His work was done or what else did He have to come back later to do? He rested to teach man how to rest not because He was tired Himself. He laid an example for man. Today by that example, we have resting days. We rest even when we're not tired. We have a physical rest and a spiritual rest. If man can rest even when he isn't tired, what makes you think God rested because He was tired? If i decided to rest in my house on Saturday and not go to work, does that mean I'm tired? SMH. Give me the verse that says God was tired. Anything else would be ignored.

6. God is everywhere present, sees and knows all things
Prov 15:3/ Ps 139:7-10/ Job 34:22,21
God is not everywhere present, neither sees nor knows all
things
Gen 11:5/ Gen 18:20,21/ Gen 3:8.

The purpose of these verses is to show us that God cares and is absolutely interested in the affairs of men. How did He know that men were building something in Genesis 11? How did He know that Sodom was perverted in Genesis 18. How did He know all these already before saying He'll come down or go to confirm? Those verses are merely demonstrating God's concerns for man which is one of the core messages of the Bible.

7. God knows the hearts of men
Acts 1:24/ Ps 139:2,3
God tries men to find out what is in their heart
Deut 13:3/ Deut 8:2/ Gen 22:12

God knows the hearts of men but He tries the hearts of men in order to prove to man that the man who was tried deserves whatever God does to him.

"By no means! Let God be true though every one were a liar, as it is written, “ That you may be justified in your words, and prevail when you are judged.

God would be proved right when men or anyone judges God's actions. Even the man who is cast to hell would know for sure that he deserves hell. By the trial, everyone knows that God is casting him to hell, not just because of what God thinks about him but by the results he himself has produced.

8. God is all powerful
Jer 32:27/ Matt 19:26
God is not all powerful
Judg 1:19

God is all powerful but His power is available to man in the measure to which man is Obidient to God. In Judges 4, under the pophethhood of Deborah, an Obidient and faithly woman of God, God destroyed Sisera and his large army of iron chariots. Faith and Obidient are the two important yardsticks for measuring how much of God's power is available to man.


9. God is unchangeable
James 1:17/ Mal 3:6/ Ezek 24:14/ Num 23:19
God is changeable
Gen 6:6/ Jonah 3:10/ 1 Sam 2:30,31/ 2 Kings 20:1,4,5,6/
Ex 33:1,3,17,14

I don't need to answer this. I'm sure the book you're copying from was written by a Satanist.

You mean if God decided to punish a people, and the people repented and asks to be forgiven, God must go ahead and punish them in order to prove that He doesn't change?

God has never changed. He hates evil and goes all out to punish it after giving the evil doer ample time to repent. He then rolls out severe warnings. If the evil doer repents, He forgives and turns back the intensity of the punishment. That's how He has always been. That's how He is till today.

10. God is just and impartial
Ps 92:15/ Gen 18:25/ Deut 32:4/ Rom 2:11/ Ezek 18:25
God is unjust and partial
Gen 9:25/ Ex 20:5/ Rom 9:11-13/ Matt 13:12

In Genesis 9:25, Noah cursing his son makes God partial? Hahahaha, wonders shall never end. In Exodus 20:5, God is partial for commanding the Jews not to worship idols? How foolish can this assertion get?

In Romans 9:11-13, God already knew what Esau was going to do and become. God knew his heart. He knew he'll not serve God. God judged him before hand. And we see that God was right in His judgement by the kind of life Esau eventually lived.

This brings me back to the verse that makes you conclude that God does not know the hearts because He tries the hearts of men. I've responded to that already. This allegation of yours further proves my position that even though God knows man's heart, people like you will accuse God of wrongdoing if God does not prove through trial that the man deserves what God says or does to him.

The Satanist book from which you're copying is a book of lies at its best. I can't find any truth in it. I've just exposed the first 10 lies. The book is merely written to mislead people like you in order to further strengthen the fetters of your captivity so that you can become surer candidates of hell.

This is a very poor attempt to discredit the Bible.

There are indeed human imperfections in the Bible but this first 10 verses of yours don't fall in that category. They were deliberate lies sordidly collated to look like truth.

I really pity your soul.

Why do you chrissies throw the bible under a bus when it falters under scrutiny.
2 Timothy 3:16-17
New International Version
16 All Scripture is God-breathed and is useful for teaching, rebuking, correcting and training in righteousness, 17 so that the servant of God[a] may be thoroughly equipped for every good work
And youre commiting heresy by castigating this word breathed by yahweh.
1. I said Yahweh regretted creating man, not all his creations. If you regret cooking a poor pot of soup, are you satisfied with it? Of course not.
Which brings us to this.
WHY SHOULD AN OMNISCIENT AND ALL-KNOWING GOD REGRET HIS ACTIONS OR BE SURPRISED BY HIS CREATIONS?
Please dont dodge this question like many chrissies do.
2. Jesus flogged thieves out of the temple which he says is his house.

3.
Notice it was stated clearly in those verses yahweh dwells in dark clouds. There was no allusion to unbelief or anything like that.
This is precisely the reason 1 bible can spawn thousands, and more of denominations. Everyone have their own meaning of a particular verse. You see how you twisted this verse that was plain as day into something that is completely off. One can commit murder and have a 100% bible backup. No wonder same bible gave rise to denominations which kill their members. Like Jim Jones of the Guyana disaster, the recent Kenyan massacre and many others.
4. Another nebulous claim from you.
God is seen and heard by those to whom He reveals and manifests Himself. God is invisible but God does manifest.
So why would yahweh reveal himself physically when its a death sentence to humans? Besides this statement of yours completely goes against these quoted verses which are breathes of yahweh.

5.
It is a sign between Me and the children of Israel for ever; for in six days the Lord made heaven and earth, and on the seventh day He rested and was refreshed
Can a being with limitless energy be refreshed?

6.
And the LORD said, “Because the outcry against Sodom and Gomorrah is great, and because their sin is very grave, I will go down now and see whether they have done altogether according to the outcry against it that has come to Me; and if not, I will know
So an all knowing god doesn't even know what's going on here?

7.
Thou shalt not hearken unto the words of that aprophet, or that dreamer of dreams: for the Lord your God bproveth you, to know whether ye love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul.
This verse is just saying that yahweh is testing their faith in him. It didn't state anywhere that he wants them to know their own decisions changed their 'destiny'

“Do not lay a hand on the boy,” he said. “Do not do anything to him. Now I know that you fear God, because you have not withheld from me your son, your only son


Deuteronomy 8:2
New International Version
2 Remember how the Lord your God led you all the way in the wilderness these forty years, to humble and test you in order to know what was in your heart, whether or not you would keep his commands


These 2 also show yahweh does not know the outcome of the isrealite Wilderness journey or whether Abraham would kill isaac. If he knew, why would he ask the dude to do it? He would have told Abraham that he's a faithful servant

8.
Judges 1:19
King James Version
19 And the Lord was with Judah; and he drave out the inhabitants of the mountain; but could not drive out the inhabitants of the valley, because they had chariots of iron
I don't even understand how you are defending this verse. Its clearly stated that yahweh couldnt destroy the iron chariots.

9. This answer further strengthens the notion that yahweh isnt all knowing. CAN AN ALL KNOWING AND OMNISCIENT GOD CHANGE HIS MIND?
Also notice that yahweh actually changed from a vindictive bloodthirsty god in the OT to a caring god in the NT. Can he be said to be an all knowing and unchangeable god? Nope!

10. Oh bro. These aint lies as youve seen. I just showed you that you're wrong