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SweetBuns:
In as much as I'd have liked to believe your story and sympathize with you, I still have to take everything here with a grain of salt because this is a faceless forum where anybody can claim to be somebody who did/experienced xyz.

If your story is indeed true, then I'm really sorry for your loss.
But still, you shouldn't write off all MoG because of one bad experience with people who called themselves into ministry. Have you heard of the Healing Streams by Pastor Chris Oyakhilome?

Go and do your homework, and see true miracles unfold
Stop looking at the world through a keyhole when there is a whole balcony avaliable to you.

Again, I'm sorry for your loss

All na scam
The press dont take pictures at his 'healing' sessions .
And recently got into trouble with South African authorities cos of it

SultanOfAbia:
somebody that even went to USA for chemotherapy.
Spent lots of money in India
This pastor at the beginning was telling him to ignore doctors report and have faith in God. When it got worse pastor invited him for miracle healing.
His wife was very desperate, she planned to take him to isreal weeks before he died

Was the chemo working? Was it a prostate ish?

SultanOfAbia:
One of my favorite uncle had cancer, he visited different churches. Looking for healing.
I remember one time I followed him to his pastors church.
They called him up for miracle healing
The pastor took my uncle to the altar and prayed and prayed, casting and binding together with the congregation

Then they both came out and the pastor said that my uncle had been healed. That he should do scam for the tumor.
The congregation shouted in praise
Pastor said that my uncle is already healed.
After program my uncle donate 400k to pastor.

On Monday, first thing we went to FMC and after the MRI scan. It turns out the tumor got bigger than before.

I watched my uncle slowly die in pain and agony upon all the prayers.
He lost faith in his pastor and other churches. He died 3 weeks later..

THE PASTOR REFUSED TO ANNOUNCE MY UNCLES DEATH BECAUSE IT WILL MAKE HIM LOOK LIKE HIS PRAYERS FAILED.

AFTER I NOTICED THIS
I VOWED NOT TO ENTER ANY CHURCH
THEY ARE BUNCH OF SCAMMERS SELLING HOPE FOR THE MASSES.

Sorry for your loss. I guess its a prostate cancer, right? We have poor cancer awareness in the country, even amongst health workers. And citizens hand their health over to a porn watching, popcorn munching sky daddy

Maynman:
That skills will make you a billionaire.

Christianity is a multi trillion industry with a large untapped market in Africa

truthCoder:
Early stage psychosis…

Nope. This is late stage. He's lost touch of reality and now lacks insight

MaxInDHouse:
Oh!
Now i get you, so you're so choked that you can't even breathe. I pity your life

I'll stop giving u this attention you crave

TenQ:
Did your research indicate that God dictated the book of Genesis to Moses?

Ok, then. How did we get the story of the creation?

TenQ:
I was wondering how like a boxer who is dazed cannot see and thus could even hit the referee to survive the match. You confidently accused me of something I know nothing about hence, the pix of the beatenboxer came to mind.

Sorry, I used to box in those days before I realized the the sport was not for me.

It is difficult with your level of confidence to think you were not dazed!
LOL!

You're still punch drunk. Check in with the neurosurgeon

truthCoder:
The moment you stop believing in all these religious stories and know for a fact that their stories are just horror stories is the moment those demonic dreams would stop.

Growing up, i had nightmares from these stories of witches and wizards our films wont stop telling. I stopped having those moronic dreams when I realized they were just stories.

In my teenage years I had nightmares about hell and horror movies. When I turned atheist, everything stopped. Nightmares, nyctophobia etc. In fact i watch horror movies at night with no lights on, but still dont get scared. It looked like a switched was flipped.
The human mind is powerful

Jackanda1:
The unpardonable sin is a story for another day.

From the energy you use in fighting the imaginary Yaweh in most of your posts, i begin to wonder if you're truely an atheist or one who's jealous of the goodness of Yaweh.

Becareful, God may arrest you soon

Same energy y'all expend to fight Muslims. You see topics everyday targeting Muslims and atheists. Who is expending more energy fighting who?
Now be honest(if you can), how many topics on Nairaland are pro atheist compared to pro Christian or pro Islam topics?

Image123:
Where is that?

Viking hell. I may have got the spelling wrong. Its Scandinavian

Image123:
There are many people who were not theists but had such trouble and ran to theism looking for solutions. Oppression is not only experienced by theists, don't be naive yet again.

I can't say for everyone tho. I'm telling you of my experience. And he's telling you of his. Go figure

Image123:
i will not doubt you, but ask you for the advantages if you feel compelled to make sure i hear it.

Advantages of compelling you to believe it?
Whoa!
They are many. For starters, I can tell you this unicorn can heal you of any disease and can give you eternal bliss if only you give me money

Image123:
LoLz, living without hope of eternity this. BTW, many theists don't fear angels or demons or gods. Many Christians like me simply fear God, that's all. And we do sleep far better than you do.

How sure are you that you won't burn in Neilfheim?

LordReed:
I am convinced that the only way to investigate this world is through all the senses available to me, when anyone can provide me a solid methodology with which to define what spiritual is and explore it then I won't trouble myself.

Actually, I am enjoying reality just as it is, no worries about stories of gods, angels or demons. I know you fear these things and they keep you up at night but I don't, I sleep like a baby most days so good luck to you with your gods, angels, demons and worrying.

Same as me. It amuses me when I wake up and hear such tales from theists casting and binding non existent demons

Jackanda1:
I want you to google 'Todd White testimony' and ensure to watch and listen to it on youtube. Todd White is a former atheist whose testimony i believe would bless you.

I can as well tell you I saw a flying unicorn today. Would you believe me or ask me for evidence?

Jackanda1:
Are you honestly convinced that this world is only physical and has no spiritual component?

I have had so many personal experience that you might not even believe if i bother to tell you. But the spiritual aspect of this world is so real.

There are bad and dark powers as well good ones in this realm and beyond, staying neutral as an atheist/agnostic doesn't exempt you from their influence.

Like i did, you need to begin to ask yourself questions and open your heart. Atheism and hardness of heart shuts you out of reality.

1. What experiences?
2. How come these dark powers manifest on theists alone but run away from atheists? Cos my Christian wife has all kinds of demonic obsessions like nightmares, sees ghosts in dark etc, while I don't see such. She shivers in fear while I am sipping my chill. Mind you she has talked to her pastors

Jackanda1:
If you've once recieved salvation by faith, walked with God and today you've declared yourself an athiest, you're in alot of danger.

1. You're in danger of commiting the unpardonable sin aka the sin unto death aka blasphemy of the holyspirit aka final apostacy. Its not that God won't forgive. But you're resisting forgiveness by hardening ur heart.

2. You're making yourself an agent of the devil by spreading atheism and turning people away from God. God is trying to build, yet you're destroying.

3. Since you work for the devil, you would most likely end up with him in HELL.

4. Just like Esua, you're throwing away your birthright in christ which are salvation, the Holyspirit, faith, righteousness and the kingdom of Heaven etc.

5. Declaring yourself an athiest and resisting God opens you up to demonic possesion and influence. You might not even know you're possesd, but that doesn't change the fact.

I'm writting this as a repentant athiest who went about blaspheming God.

Repent before its late!

I'm not interested in replying the other bullshit but this one got me.
You labelled the topic as unpardonable then you said Yahweh would forgive. Are you high on quality kush?

Ken4Christ:
He is alive. He lives in me.

So does the Flying Spaghetti Monster, bro. Praise His Noodly Name

Ken4Christ:
So, why haven't they found his corpse for over 2,000 years?

Which thief will come near a tomb that was heavily guarded by the Roman Soldiers?

If you want to quote a myth, why don't you quote one that has a good plot? Snow White and the Seven Dwarves have better story lines

Ken4Christ:
Refuting a claim without proof is nothing. Show me the grave of Jesus and I will believe you.

But his tomb is empty. Hallelujah, Jesus lives.

Lol. Someone that never existed. Nice thought though

Ken4Christ:
You are making a joke out of this. But I know that you know the truth that Jesus is Saviour and Lord.

You will bow before him one day. You and your spaghetti will not escape Jesus.

I know you are laughing at me, but one day you and your ilks here would bow down and prostrate before Him. Look at Him now and behold his Glory

SIRTee15:
u know u confused, u may think I wont read it or miss it. Or I wont pick on it.
just like the new links u sent today which I will talk about once u apologize.

Ok. I thought u won't read it when you particularly requested for it? Your pastor did a good job on your brain

SIRTee15:
Why didn't you post the full statement. Why did u delete the last sentence about surgery.
If it's irrelevant as u claim, why did u delete it and not post it here.
That's why I accused u of dishonesty. U knew what u were doing. U were caught and now doing window dressing.
Only for u to come back and referred to me as a liar even though u didn't even know who u were speaking to.
Apologise and we will conclude on the matter. It takes a lot of humility for a man to admit his mistake and correct it. I will definitely respect that.
Except u want to tell me u have been destined not to apologise no matter what.

If I was dishonest, would I post the link to you ? Don't you think I'll be shortchanging myself?
Are you seeing how religion has made you lose logical reasoning?

MaxInDHouse:
That's exactly what other guy said about you it's always accusing people when you failed to win them over to your atheism!

Ok. Its true. Can you stop distracting me

TenQ:
By the way, do you think it is sensible discussing religion with SPIRITUALLY BLIND F_OO_LS?

Before I respond to you why I speak to Muslims, will you admit that you were beaten blue-black by someone else that you couldnt see properly and thus had to just point to a random passerby in TenQ and accuse him of debating you on medical related matters?

Same way it doesn't make sense for a Muslim to debate holy stuff with an infidel like you
Who beat me blue black? You mean that quick that thinks SRs are induced by Yahweh? No thank you!

TenQ:
You don't need to personally give a single hoot about Muslims?
You are controlled by the same master, hence your master DIRECTED you to come to the Defence of Muslims.
And you did: Case dismissed!

Did God WRITE the Bible?
Did God DICTATE the Bible?
Muslims claim that the Quran is the DICTATED and Perfectly PRESERVED Verbatim Words of Allah!
And this is their primary instrument of ENSLAVEMENT to both Christians and Muslims!

The Knowledge of the Truth Sets Free!

Defend Muslims if you can, both of you would be rubbished and put in your place by simple set of words!

Have you read my posts about Muslims?
Is there any thing I've said that their OWN spiritual Books did not say?
https://www.nairaland.com/tenq

Please how did Moses supposedly write the genesis?

SIRTee15:
The same reason it makes no sense to bring dictionary to Christian theology.

Dont worry, when a client asks you to define a car or whatever, tell them the dictionary meaning your pastor told you.
Even your theology employs secular knowledge and dictionary. They use etymology, philosophy etc which are all secular knowledge

SIRTee15:
If u consider this a reasonable response, then u lost.
How many children of professors end up as criminals compared to children from dysfunctional home with poor upbringing.
God has a wonderful plan for every child. The thought he has for us is good and not of evil. He has no plan for any child to become a robber or prostitute.
Whatever force u following is sick and it's eating u up.
Even if I'm not a Christian, I will never believe in a fixed destiny, it's nonsense.
So if u have a crystal ball that tells u your kids will end up as robbers as adults, will u continue to waste money on them ?
Why is there no prostitution in Saudi Arabia. Is it because no female child in the country is destined to become a prostitute?
Answer the question.

You don't even understand English. Please define preknowledge. Who dey teach una all this things?
Who told you theres no prostitution in SA? A simple Google search coulda helped you but you prefer that knowledge your pastor is feeding you.
Leave religion and learn.

MaxInDHouse:
Don't explode my friend, i'm just enjoying the show of shame between you and your friends with whom you were criticizing God's people on the other thread!

I have promised not to interfere with whatever you're doing together.

So cheers!

Like I said, take your shrivelled child molesting ass outta here. This is no JW thread

SIRTee15:
Why didnt you post the full statement. Why did remove the aspect of treatment. That's dishonesty.
So removing the primary tumour is precaution
They should have left it and declare the woman cancer free then, see attempt to give excuse for act of dishonesty.

Do you lack comprehension skills. The patient had SR. But they did surgery. My mum had breast cancer. Did chemo till no lumps were palpable. Chest xray and CT showed no lesions yet they onco advised a mastectomy which I agreed. Mitotic cells can cause a relapse later
They way you argue shows you dont even have medical knowledge and youre here running your mouth

SIRTee15:
I demand an apology form you for defamation of character before we continue this discussion. Otherwise no more.

You have been blamspheming against me but I kept my cool, now you want an apology when you have been found out