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Christianity EtcRe: This topic has been removed by jaephoenix(m): 11:46am On Apr 08, 2023
EYESofHORUS:
Your attack on him only made you sound intelligent. He was able to proof you are intelligent by 0.01 with that your copy and paste text. You posted that and made it look like your own words. If you want to tackle people, then do it wisely and hounorably.

Same man didnt say he wrote all what he posted by himself neither did he say he copied it. He already told us he will notify us when he is done posting all his RESEARCH work.

I advise you to read, assimilate and learn. Then make your contribution. If you have different view from what he posted, then table yours without trying to discredit his research work. To think you threw you first jab by saying "We are not all an idiot" gave a very negative aura to the scene.

So bros calm down and lets have a good session on this topic. Savvy?
You have even made yourself more stupid. I didn't claim to write all the stuff myself. Did he in any of his posts drop his sources? No! He pretended they were his materials. He has made about 5 voluminous posts and not one source was quoted. So why castigate me? Are you not seeing you are all idiots and hypocrites. And not just that, cretards. You ignored the message and attacked the messenger. Go and buy sense, you wont
Christianity EtcRe: All Babies Are Enemies Of God by jaephoenix(m): 7:39pm On Apr 07, 2023
MaxInDHouse:
When the president of a country discover that his enemies have poisoned the minds of others against him surely his enemies have increased but then how does he treats the gullible ones who joined his enemies?
Well he will arrange for public awareness and many will have the opportunity to voice out the grudges they're holding due to misinformation. But until the case is settled they remain his enemies! smiley
Good. Does this president go about slaughtering his perceived enemies?
Christianity EtcRe: All Babies Are Enemies Of God by jaephoenix(m): 7:38pm On Apr 07, 2023
MaxInDHouse:
When talking about reasonableness i often laugh at the way most people use their brains! cheesy

The president of America lives in America and for sure he knows those who are his enemies right there in his own country but does that mean he will always kill them?
Well experience shows that it's only when they take actions to sabotage his government and cause his peaceful and obedient subjects harm that he will swing into action.
That's when an observer could sense that this are his enemies.
I wonder how this is difficult for normal humans to grasp but i can understand after all atheists doesn't want to hear anything having to do with a supreme being! smiley
You haven't answered my question about the Amalekites?
Christianity EtcRe: All Babies Are Enemies Of God by jaephoenix(m): 7:37pm On Apr 07, 2023
MaxInDHouse:
Did i tell you God didn't want babies to exist? cheesy
… yet he deemed them his enemies, and is intent on murdering all of them(according to you)
Christianity EtcRe: All Babies Are Enemies Of God by jaephoenix(m): 7:36pm On Apr 07, 2023
MaxInDHouse:
Fanatics are people that finds it really hard to look away from what others believe.
So you guys are the real fanatics here! cheesy
Fanatic is a person filled with excessive and single-minded zeal, especially for an extreme religious or political cause.
Its only you that have such zeal, not i
Christianity EtcRe: All Babies Are Enemies Of God by jaephoenix(m): 7:33pm On Apr 07, 2023
MaxInDHouse:
The virus is just an illustration so just as a king will never release a virus to kill his subjects the true God never release death to strike Adam and Eve rather He warned them of the consequences! smiley
Really?
Who created Satan? Yahweh!
Did he know Satan was gonna be a great deceiver? Yes!
Who gave Satan his omnipotent, omniscient etc powers? Yahweh!
Who created Eden and the tree of knowledge and planted it right in the middle of the garden(not even at the outskirts where it would be out of sight of Adam and Eve) and made it have luscious fruits? Yahweh!
Do you now understand your all loving god wanted Adam fvcked from the get-go?
Here is an analogy. You(yahweh) sent your son(Adam) to school(garden of eden) and paid a bully(Satan) to distract and beat the child, so he'll fail in school? I used the word 'paid' because he Satan is an upgraded being, having those powers handed to him by Yahweh. Whats his target? A puny Adam, a regular mortal with no powers whatsoever
Christianity EtcRe: All Babies Are Enemies Of God by jaephoenix(m): 7:27pm On Apr 07, 2023
MaxInDHouse:
His plans hasn't reached their turn so they're free to continue existing until the time comes when His patience runs out.
So until then whether you are ready to do His will or not you can continue existing! smiley
Can you explain the bolded, please
Christianity EtcRe: All Babies Are Enemies Of God by jaephoenix(m): 7:26pm On Apr 07, 2023
MaxInDHouse:
The people of Jericho and Amalek directly challenged His authority after hearing about His mightiness. Note that Ninevites repented simply because they heard not Jehovah but a messenger from Him. Do you think the people of Jericho and Amalek will listen or kill His messenger? Remember that the Amalekites and Jericho wanted to harm His people! wink
Ummm.
Can you showed me the Bible verses Amalekites, and Jerichoans challenged Yahweh. And please, the Nineveans repented after Jonah preached. Thank You
Christianity EtcRe: All Babies Are Enemies Of God by jaephoenix(m): 7:21pm On Apr 07, 2023
MaxInDHouse:
A ruler only kills when rebellion is getting out of hand so Jehovah won't just kill until His plans are disrupted by the rebellious. wink
Ummmm… I don't recall the Amalekites or Canaanites revolting or rebelling against Yahweh, before the Israelites showed up and slaughtered them all
Christianity EtcRe: Why Are You A Christian Or A Muslim? by jaephoenix(m): 12:30pm On Apr 07, 2023
Dindondin:
When evaluating people's life. When that person turn a new leaf with pure evidence, focus only on the bad. Leave the good.
No be that thing wey Jesus see and told someone to go n sin no more?
No be your types Jesus dey describe saying he who has not sinned should be the first to throw the stone? Read John 8 vs 7.
No be same Christianity talk say for all have sinned and has come short of the glory of God? Read Romans 3 vs 23-24.
Focus on the goodness of modern Christianity.
Christianity allows restitution. If those you claimed to torture and killed for witchcraft meet the msg of restitution and they accept it, they ll come out to apologize, accept any punishment for it. I don't know if any religion do that without due respect to all religions in the world.
So bros, it's logical to tow the part of Christianity.

True Christians don't throw away their roots. In every religion, culture or belief, there's tendency for fanaticism. Those you mentioned that are desecrating African deity did so with genuine or non-genuine purpose. The only part that Christianity may frown against is the part that's not morally good. For example, deity that requires human sacrifice. Don't blame the whites for coming to abolish such.
Actually restitution is a tenet for many religions, not just christianity. Christianity borrowed its Holy book and tenets from others
Christianity EtcRe: LOL Did God Really Love Humankind? by jaephoenix(m): 12:26pm On Apr 07, 2023
chieveboy:
Yup! It's simpler than you think.

1:Tilt the G-string to the side.

2: Use a funnel to part the faecal matter idling around...wait, this is not necessary because I'm sure there would be a clear line of sight...

3: Use your selfie camera and hold it in place

4: Send me TeamsViewer ID.


Cheers!
Ok. Keep your skirt and panties on
Christianity EtcRe: LOL Did God Really Love Humankind? by jaephoenix(m): 12:25pm On Apr 07, 2023
Dtruthspeaker:
Because
Thus saith the LORD, Israel is my son, even my firstborn: and I say unto thee, Let my son go, that he may serve me: and if thou refuse to let him go, behold, I will slay thy son, even thy firstborn.

Isreal is first, in everything and when God comes to judge, they shall be the first.
Which Israel? This Israel I'm seeing now?
Christianity EtcRe: LOL Did God Really Love Humankind? by jaephoenix(m): 12:24pm On Apr 07, 2023
Dtruthspeaker:
Like the electricity, gas cylinder, knives, generator, petrol, snyper, swimming pool, dogs and even snakes you intentionally put in your house and that surely electricity will shock your kids, knives will cut them, fire will burn them, water will drown them, dogs will bite them, snakes will bite them, stopped you from putting them in your house.

And everyone blames the kid, for we all inherently know that the snake will only bite when they do something wrong.
Are you just trolling, or being honest? I don't imagine you keeping a straight face while typing this crap
Christianity EtcRe: LOL Did God Really Love Humankind? by jaephoenix(m): 12:22pm On Apr 07, 2023
Techobeys:
I do have palpable data but I do not think it’s wise to give it to you. If you have something very precious, you have to make sure the person who you want to give it to will cherish it and build on it. So dear friend, pardon me if I look away from you. Do have a wonderful day. Like I said, subscribe to my channel, perhaps you get lucky and catch me teaching about it.
Ok. Good day then. Hang on to your 'data'
Christianity EtcRe: Question For All: Why Does Isaiah 45:7 Say That God Created Evil? by jaephoenix(m): 12:21pm On Apr 07, 2023
thorpido:
Accord to you. undecided
Not just according to me, but your own Bible. The old hebrew connotation of that word still means evil
Christianity EtcRe: ************************** by jaephoenix(m): 12:19pm On Apr 07, 2023
triplechoice:
Scientific 'secrets' or technological 'secrets' exist as insider information ( further details) or inventions not revealed to outsiders until the right time or may not be revealed at all.It's not only in the sciences that will find this.

Every other field of human endeavour has 'something' which is not openly discussed or exposed publicly, and there are reasons for this.


1. To maintain the advantage which it gives to those who are privy to It.

Secret police or spies of some technological advanced countries are usually the first to use certain inventions to aid their espionage work before it's sold or exposed to the public.

2. To withhold certain information that would have caused the public to react in a particular manner that may not favour those pursuing an agenda.

3. For the personal protection of those using such secrets' in their businesses or whatever else they use it for.


4. To prevent misuse of the information or invention by the inexperienced public who may hurt themselves with it.



These are some of the reasons.

However, secrets in the sciences don't always stay hidden for long, a scientist somewhere would get to reveal it somehow.

But elsewhere, they may stay hidden and never openly discussed, so that even when you get to hear of it through other channels, you doubt if such a thing actually exist or is true.
So what has a 'juju mirror' gotta do with a scientific secret
Christianity EtcRe: All Babies Are Enemies Of God by jaephoenix(m): 11:56am On Apr 07, 2023
MaxInDHouse:
All have sinned and fallen short of God's glory {Romans 3:23} so right from a fetus in it's mother's womb the baby is God's enemy {Psalms 51:5} the reason Jesus told his disciples to become babies is the way children behaves:
They are willing to learn humbly.
They're not separated by racism.
They don't think of class.
They humbly follow orders even from their mates who is wiser.

These attributes Jesus wants his disciples to imitate from little children.

There are also traits Jesus condemned about little children:
They don't know anything more than food and drinks so whether there is merriment or mourning children plays as long as they finds their mates! Luke 7:31-32

So learn to distinguish between the attributes of babies that Jesus commends and that which he condemned! wink
What the Bleep has Luke 7:31-32 got to do with your post? huh
Christianity EtcRe: All Babies Are Enemies Of God by jaephoenix(m): 11:53am On Apr 07, 2023
LordReed:
Luckily there are. They are called PIMO - Physically In Mentally Out. PIMOs know its bullshit but can't leave for some reason or the other so keep identifying as JW.
Well, they could have just opted out. Or maybe they are enjoying something like physical security, business connections, financial gains
Christianity EtcRe: Why Are You A Christian Or A Muslim? by jaephoenix(m): 11:44am On Apr 07, 2023
Dindondin:
Ok. I v heard you. A religion doing right and correcting things that aren't proper that were done in the past isn't going to go backwards but forward always. I know people like you ll come and yurn this to religious arguments but I m here to set records straight.
Yeah Constantine did some stuffs that aren't proper. Muhammad did worst. Islam spread faster by violence. Wetin you see talk to that one?
It's that questionable character of Muhammad that made many to quit Islam.
You said I boasted. How?
Jealousy don dey affect you seriously and terribly.
1. Christianity did some good and bad stuff. You just eulogized the good and ignored the bad. What about torturing and killing of people in the name of witchcraft ?
2. I'm not here to talk about Islam. They are equally bad.
3. You're asking how you boasted? Even though you're still boasting more. Read your first post about Christianity being populous and thus being the right religion
Christianity EtcRe: This topic has been removed by jaephoenix(m): 11:35am On Apr 07, 2023
Ourtruth247:
This is why arguing with certain people can be really annoying. People like this guy above don't know anything about the topic that they are arguing about. Some of them probably just encountered the topic for the first time, and yet they are quick to call me ignorant.

Take a look at the bolded in the quoted post. This guy just went online and copied and pasted his reply without even changing anything. And he has the guts to tell me to "do my work well", something I have been researching for many years. It's really funny.

Attached is a screenshot of the post he copied and pasted his reply verbatim from.
Bro, can you tell me everything you posted here was typed by you and none copied?
Stop grasping at straws and face the facts. Copying stuff doesn't make them false
Christianity EtcRe: This topic has been removed by jaephoenix(m): 11:34am On Apr 07, 2023
Ourtruth247:
I'll only reply you this once and then continue posting because you seem intent on derailing the thread.

For someone quick to call me ignorant, you don't seem knowledgeable yourself. Quite an irony.

All those "changes" you mentioned are nothing compared to the drastic overnight changes in morphology that science tells us happened through natural evolution in just 300,000 years.

I don't want to keep repeating myself. Please reread my post. You can't compare lighter skin color and small change in height with all the simultaneous transformations I listed.

The funny thing is that actual knowledgeable geneticists won't doubt this. When you point this out to a geneticist they will say that there has to have been missing links, i.e fossils of other species that haven't been found that would show the natural progression of these features. Problem is we haven't found even one of those fossils.
So why do you think the scientists lied? How did you come up with your theory?
Christianity EtcRe: Why Are You A Christian Or A Muslim? by jaephoenix(m): 11:17am On Apr 07, 2023
Dindondin:
That tolerance is the key. Hate, lack of empathy, terrorism are associated with humanity not just religion. But if you have a religion than has billions of population, are almost in control of the world and hold enough tolerance to others, you should respect them. The works of the missionaries of the early late 18th centuries and 1900s birthed industrial revolution, modern medicine, abolition of slave trade etc.
You that I m quoting, ordinary malaria fit 🦟 don kpain your ancestors if not for quinine discovered by missionaries. You for nor exist!
1. Yes, christianity is the most populous religion but its declining fast. Atheism and then Islam is gaining more ground. So beware, in the next 50 years this boast of yours would be a lie, which takes me to my next point.
2. Being populous doesn't make it better. You're committing a fallacy of Appeal to Popularity. Which is wrong
3. Also, are you aware there was a time christianity wasnt a religion in the world. Then there was a time it was a less popular religion before Emperor Constantine decided to spread it by spilling the blood of unbelievers. So would you have made this your statement about being right cos you are more in numbers? No.
4. No, it wasn't missionaries that did researches to further medicine and science. And what's more, it wasnt Missionaries that discovered quinine or the cinchona tree. It was the Quechua Indians
Christianity EtcRe: All Babies Are Enemies Of God by jaephoenix(m): 11:03am On Apr 07, 2023
MaxInDHouse:
Ears you have but you can't hear, eyes you have but you can't see.
If JWs are preaching zealously and teaching industriously in all our neighbourhood how to settle the grudge people have against the true God then your brains aren't working fine! smiley
Yeah, preaching to us that babies(which they once were) are yahweh's enemies.
By the way Max, are these verses in your Bible…

Mark 9:36
Anyone who welcomes a little child like this on my behalf welcomes me, and anyone who welcomes me welcomes not only me but also my Father who sent me."


Psalms 139:13-16
13 For you created my inmost being; you knit me together in my mother’s womb.
14 I praise you because I am fearfully and wonderfully made; your works are wonderful, I know that full well.

Matthew 18:9-10
9 And if your eye causes you to stumble, gouge it out and throw it away. It is better for you to enter life with one eye than to have two eyes and be thrown into the fire of hell.
10 “See that you do not despise one of these babies. For I tell you that their angels in heaven always see the face of my Father in heaven


Mark 10:15-16
15 Truly I tell you, anyone who will not receive the kingdom of God like a little child will never enter it.”
16 And he took the children in his arms, placed his hands on them and blessed them


Psalms 127:3-5
3 Children are a heritage from the LORD, offspring a reward from him


Is that how Yahweh treats his sworn enemies? By cuddling them and telling you to be like them? grin
Christianity EtcRe: All Babies Are Enemies Of God by jaephoenix(m): 10:52am On Apr 07, 2023
Fireoflife:
For me that's a good thing
Cool. You can be a scriptwriter with your skills. Why waste it?
Christianity EtcRe: All Babies Are Enemies Of God by jaephoenix(m): 10:46am On Apr 07, 2023
MaxInDHouse:
Many babies are born deaf and dumb, blind, cripple, sickle cell, abnormal, i have seen a child born without nose only for this baby to die few minutes after it's birth and many are still dying.

So why did God allowed all these to happen to innocent babies if they're not His enemies?

This is what Abraham the father of all those having faith said about the one and only true God:

"It is unthinkable that you would act in this manner by putting the righteous man to death with the wicked one so that the outcome for the righteous man and the wicked is the same! It is unthinkable of you. Will the Judge of all the earth not do what is right?” Genesis 18:25

So considering what has happened to millions of babies in history and what Abraham said are babies God's friends or enemies? Psalms 51:5

Abeg warn this OP make he no dey tamper with JWs o because i will prove to him that all his friends and himself knew nothing about the true God! smiley
Being yahweh's enemy as a baby, and a Muslim one at that, why weren't you destroyed? You haven't answered this?
Christianity EtcRe: All Babies Are Enemies Of God by jaephoenix(m): 10:43am On Apr 07, 2023
MaxInDHouse:
Just quote a verse in the New Testament where a faithful servant of God pray for child/ children that will ends this unwarranted argument! smiley
That's not the point here, stop grasping as straws. If there's no babies, you won't exist
Christianity EtcRe: All Babies Are Enemies Of God by jaephoenix(m): 10:41am On Apr 07, 2023
oteneaaron:
Wow.

You are now treading paths of pure fanaticism.

This sounds like something a boko haram member would say.
Show me a non fanatic JW and I'll show you a flying whale
Christianity EtcRe: All Babies Are Enemies Of God by jaephoenix(m): 10:40am On Apr 07, 2023
MaxInDHouse:
I've told all atheists on this forum that there is a difference between intelligence and wisdom.

An atheist could be intelligent but wisdom only belongs to true believers.

So if any atheist feel like challenging the idea of God destroying babies let him give a better opinion in this scenario:

You are a King and you want your kingdom to be peaceful but a certain region has been infected with a virus that's killing them you have the power to cure them but they need to prevent doing things that will give the virus power.
So you sent them a letter through messengers some have read your letter with keen interest and acting on the instructions but many ignored your letter and continued infecting others including those who are following the preventive measures.

Please tell me what you will do to save those acting on the safety instructions if not to exterminate all those infected but refused to act on preventive measures! smiley
Did it occur to you that it was the king that released the virus itself, knowing initially that some of his subject would succumb to it, but he didn't care.
What should we do to that king? Worship him more?
Christianity EtcRe: All Babies Are Enemies Of God by jaephoenix(m): 10:37am On Apr 07, 2023
MaxInDHouse:
All newly born babies are God's enemies but they must be killed only when their parents who supposed to teach them God's word don't want to do so and at the same time disturbing those sent to teach these babies!

So God sends them back to their default mode which is DUST! Ecclesiastes 3:20

As descendants of Adam humans in general are sentenced to death {Romans 5:12; 6:23} this includes the fetus in the womb, babies, toddlers, teenagers, youths and older ones are all sinners in line for destruction!

But due to His mercies God began planning to save obedient ones through His program so if anyone doesn't know His plans God will send His messengers to teach them but when they're not ready for this that won't stop Him from going on with His plans so they must be given what they really deserve as Adam's descendants: DEATH!

I wonder why those claiming believers aren't here to speak up for their God, i thought they want to preach and teach just like those trained by the group the man OP quoted is a member! smiley
So why didn't Yahweh murder you as a murderously devilish Muslim baby, whose parents didn't care about JWs, and probably drove them away when they came preaching?
Christianity EtcRe: All Babies Are Enemies Of God by jaephoenix(m): 10:34am On Apr 07, 2023
MaxInDHouse:
You're getting things wrong again!

Jehovah doesn't kill His enemies until there is no other option. Noah's contemporaries, the inhabitants of Sodom and Gomorrah, Jericho and Amalek were destroyed not because they are Jehovah's enemies but because that's the last option as Jehovah was prepared begin His work to restore sanity and these people were posing a threat.

So Jehovah doesn't just go about killing His enemies it's when there's no other way out! smiley
Uhhhm
What happened to converting the people of Amalek and Jericho? Like he did with Nineveh?
Christianity EtcRe: All Babies Are Enemies Of God by jaephoenix(m): 10:33am On Apr 07, 2023
MaxInDHouse:
It's obvious churchgoers aren't coming to this thread after my touch so let me answer you! smiley

Babies are God's enemies but God doesn't kill His enemies when they're posing no threat to pure worship or His will in fact they still have a hope and that is what they will grow up to become after they've developed their own line of thought and opinion about life in general.

I was born, bread and raised by Muslim parents who lives among other religionists in a peaceful neighbourhood where JWs are allowed to preach and teach. Note that the JWs are God's representatives in every human society so their freedom to continue doing the will of their God largely depends on what God will do to those living in that place.

So as a baby JEHOVAH has no business with me not until i grew up and began thinking about Him and His ways. I could remember vividly the day i prayed to God (without mentioning any so called divine name) asking Him to show me His worshipers due to all the contradictions in religion. But i was shocked when this people with bags and umbrellas kept coming now and then as if they're the ones i'm seeking. At first i drove them away like scavengers but they won't stop coming that's why i decided to ask them the one and only question bothering my mind.

Why did God create so many religions yet they have contradicting teachings and conflicting doctrines?

I guess that was the day i began studying with JWs because they answered my question satisfactorily.

So my friend Jehovah didn't kill me because my parents never posed a threat nor disturb His Witnesses doing His will! smiley
Yahweh had no business with a Muslim baby yet he killed many ignorant babies? Really?
Christianity EtcRe: Why Are You A Christian Or A Muslim? by jaephoenix(m): 10:28am On Apr 07, 2023
Dindondin:
I m a Christian cos I see the religion as having more freedom for life, empathy, love and meekness. The reforms came during the era if Jesus unlike the old testament times.
So I m a Christian cos the religion is straight forward in what's good and what's bad.
Gaskiya!

I would v converted to Christianity if I was born in a Muslim home.
I studied the tenets of Islam but found what I ll call personal defects.
Nice and beautiful lies. Though christianity is marginally more tolerant than islam, it doesn't mean that it does not have the problems associated with religion. There's still hate, lack of empathy, terrorism etc

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