Christianity Etc › Re: Charred Remains Of Sodom And Gomorrah Discovered (videos & Photos) by jaephoenix(m): 7:20pm On Mar 20, 2023 |
FxMasterz: There's a Witness that has always been there from the beginning. He will be there even after the end. Oh your sky daddy. Well, that's interesting. I would have believed you if you can prove that he exists in the first place, but you can't. So your point goes up in smoke |
Christianity Etc › Re: Charred Remains Of Sodom And Gomorrah Discovered (videos & Photos) by jaephoenix(m): 7:19pm On Mar 20, 2023 |
FxMasterz: The person who was there before anyone else knew about such an event. Those who wrote about it ever before archeologists discovered it. 1. Who is this person? 2. Which archeologists discovered Sodom and Gomorrah? |
Christianity Etc › Re: Charred Remains Of Sodom And Gomorrah Discovered (videos & Photos) by jaephoenix(m): 3:25pm On Mar 20, 2023 |
LordReed: LoLz! Who were the witnesses to the purported Sodom and Gomorrah event that wrote about it? I asked him the same questions. So I'm waiting for his answer |
Christianity Etc › Re: Charred Remains Of Sodom And Gomorrah Discovered (videos & Photos) by jaephoenix(m): 3:21pm On Mar 20, 2023 |
FxMasterz: For where? You've chosen what to believe. There are arguments for and against the topic. You stand for those who argue against and I stand for those who argue for.
These events happened before anyone of us. If you believe the speculators more than the witnesses, that's your own class of wisdom, and I must allow you to explore that to the maximum. So, keep clapping. Lol. Lets start from here. 1. Who are the spectators of creation and the great flood? 2. What are the arguments 'for' the Bible?  |
Christianity Etc › Re: Charred Remains Of Sodom And Gomorrah Discovered (videos & Photos) by jaephoenix(m): 7:45pm On Mar 19, 2023 |
FxMasterz: Who record events? The participators or the spectators?
Has archeology reached a perfect state where nothing more could be found?
Who should record the flood of Noah, the people swept away by the flood? Or you mean that archeologists should unearth the flood of Noah?
You only read from pages that criticise the Bible, and even if you read anything that provides evidence for Biblical events, you always chose to believe the ones that argue against the evidence.
This your bias would lead you somewhere. 1. Both participants and spectators can record events. Eclipses in the ancient days were recorded by spectators. The ancient Egyptians recorded their pyramid building progress, as participants. 2. There's nothing like perfect state in archeological findings. The depth at which an artifact is found does not, by itself, indicate age. Soil isn’t deposited at a constant rate, even in a small area. Rates of deposition are very much dependent on local geography, climate, and biological activity. Post-depositional activity can disturb relative positions (for example, plowing can raise things up or push them down). And artifacts can be deliberately buried, cutting through layers of soil.However, the depth at which an item is buried can assist in dating an artifact, or at least assist in dating when it was buried. The law of stratigraphy is that things buried deeper down are older. What you find on top is newest, stuff under that is older, stuff under that is older still, and so on. The artifacts that are supposed to be found around the supposed Bible period have been found and documented. But none of the Bible artifacts, relics, stele can be found. So let’s say that in some layer of soil you find the remains of a mosaic which, judging by the style, was probably made around 100 AD. You find some not-immediately-dateable pottery some distance below that, and some charcoal even farther down. With C-14 dating, it appears that the charcoal dates to around 500 BC. You’ve now got a couple of dates bracketing that pottery. Because it’s above the charcoal, it has to be newer than 500 BC, but because it’s beneath the mosaic, it’s got to be older than 100 AD. The depth, then, hasn’t told you how old the pottery is by itself, but along with other information, it does. 3. The creation and flood stories were supposed to be documented by Moses as Yahweh's scribe. However, this can be disregarded. Why A. Like I have explained earlier(maybe not in this thread) there was no evidence Moses existed B. The rocks and soil of Earth has been studied and scientists found out, there's no way something as big as a flood would have covered the whole world. Worse still, where did all the water go? C. The story of the flood was copied from Epic of Gilgamesh and Mesopotamia flood stories which all predated the Bible. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gilgamesh_flood_mythSome of the details of the Noah story seem mythical, so many biblical scholars believe the story of Noah and the Ark was inspired by the legendary flood stories of nearby Mesopotamia, in particular "The Epic of Gilgamesh." These ancient narratives were already being passed down from one generation to the next, centuries before Noah appeared in the Bible.
"The earlier Mesopotamian stories are very similar where the gods are sending a flood to wipe out humans," said biblical archaeologist Eric Cline. "There's one man they choose to survive. He builds a boat and brings on animals and lands on a mountain and lives happily ever after? I would argue that it's the same story."
Catastrophic events of this kind are not unique to the Bible. Some contemporary examples include the 2004 tsunami that wiped out villages on the coasts of 11 countries surrounding the Indian Ocean. There was also Hurricane Katrina, described as the worst hurricane in United States history. copied 4. Bro I have a scientific mind. And science loves to disprove itself. What may be true today may be wrong tomorrow. So if you have evidence the flood or any Bible event happened, please let me know. I'll humbly recant. I'm not in any religion that says 'believe it by faith' irrespective of the glaring evidence against it |
Christianity Etc › Re: Charred Remains Of Sodom And Gomorrah Discovered (videos & Photos) by jaephoenix(m): 6:52pm On Mar 19, 2023 |
FxMasterz: Please would you be specific? Regarding the sun standing still. That was an experience Joshua had with his armies. We can't tell whether the phenomenon spread to other places as well. Scientifically speaking, it should. But then, the people would only observe the phenomenon without knowing why or how it happened. Only Joshua and his people did. So, that can't be part of anybody's history.
Im referring to this group of people in your post regarding the sun/moon standing still |
Christianity Etc › Re: 7 Things Many People Don't Know About Pornography by jaephoenix(m): 6:48pm On Mar 19, 2023 |
Geovanni412: Even Atheists believe that you should Love your neighbour as you love yourself.
If you love your sister, Would you encourage her to join the porn industry?
Your answer to that should be the metric for evaluating your personal ethics. My sister has her own mind. Much as I don't like her becoming a porn actress, if she decides to be a porn actress tomorrow, I won't knock or judge her. She's still my sis. |
Christianity Etc › Re: 7 Things Many People Don't Know About Pornography by jaephoenix(m): 6:45pm On Mar 19, 2023 |
Realiskit: Nigerians, the most confused religious people on earth. Shouting God up and down but deeply, they are worst human beings polluting every corners of the world.
Corruption is everywhere and you stupid religious people think Pornography is our problem. Btw, what is the difference between you, the oloshos sleeping around with every possible holes full of stds and a porn addicted person, who is safe from stds and various other sexually transmitted diseases?
Anyways, God has left Nigeria long time. Why won't he, a country that doesn't want to change, where every living soul has criminal mindset. Check pornhub, xvideos etc. The top 5 traffic is from Nigeria. But na we holy pass |
Christianity Etc › Re: 7 Things Many People Don't Know About Pornography by jaephoenix(m): 6:44pm On Mar 19, 2023 |
plumule: When I become successful we praise God, but if I did something wrong I will be held accountable. If you are a Christian you should live by example.
The more I meet Christians, the more I don't want to be one Most christians are toxic people |
Christianity Etc › Re: 7 Things Many People Don't Know About Pornography by jaephoenix(m): 6:43pm On Mar 19, 2023 |
PythonPros: Ita clear that you are ignorant of what goes on in the porn industry and what's worse is that you are not open-minded to other people's perspective or views Lol. I'm the most open-minded dude you'll find around here. But it doesn't mean I imbibe wrong data. I watch porn(yes I said) and I know how the industry works. Most of the actresses know what sells. And that's a bigger ass and boobs. Do you wonder why such procedures are costly? Most men don't want child like looking women. They want those with the goodies. Notice I used the word 'most', meaning few men prefer children or teens, but these age group have under developed goodies. And most reputable sites won't allow child porn on their platform because of FBI, FCC or some other bodies. In fact they always put up a notice that their actresses are older than 18 |
Christianity Etc › Re: 7 Things Many People Don't Know About Pornography by jaephoenix(m): 6:36pm On Mar 19, 2023 |
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Christianity Etc › Re: 7 Things Many People Don't Know About Pornography by jaephoenix(m): 2:25pm On Mar 19, 2023 |
PythonPros: Still butresses my point. Most porn producers use actors/actresses who look like children to perform subversive/bondage sex. Technically, this is legal since they are adults but the end goal is clear and that is to satisfy/groom the sexual fantasies of both active/passive pedophilias.
So, in conclusion, porn can indeed promote child sex abuse Huh, porn producers use actors that look like children? Nigga r u for real? How many porn actresses look like kids? Many even do boob and ass implants. Are those supposed to make them look like children? Clear case of calling a dog a bad name so as to hang it. See as you even jump to conclusion  |
Christianity Etc › Re: 7 Things Many People Don't Know About Pornography by jaephoenix(m): 2:22pm On Mar 19, 2023 |
Dtruthspeaker: "A dog barks when his master is attacked. I would not be a Christian if I saw that God's is attacked and yet I remain silent."
It shall not be well for him in this life and God shall pour His anger in him forever and ever! Lawag3 |
Christianity Etc › Re: 7 Things Many People Don't Know About Pornography by jaephoenix(m): 1:51pm On Mar 19, 2023 |
Geovanni412: Porn ruins your motivation cycle
The dopamine levels rise very quickly while watching porn and drop below base level when you're done
Sex can't replicate the highs of porn..
Listen to Andrew Huberman, the neurologist..he talks more on this.
Israel understands how porn ruins motivation and that is why they used it as a weapon by broadcasting it on TV station of the enemy Palestines. See :https://www.smh.com.au/world/middle-east/porn-run-on-seized-tv-channels-say-residents-20020401-gdf5uw.html Hubermann talked on masturbation, not porn. You can watch porn without masturbating, and you can masturbate without watching porn. They are not congruous |
Christianity Etc › Re: 7 Things Many People Don't Know About Pornography by jaephoenix(m): 1:39pm On Mar 19, 2023 |
Adakintroy: In what way?.
Maybe the abstract science confuse you. The more you venture into the human science you will see they are scarily identical. Please explain |
Christianity Etc › Re: 7 Things Many People Don't Know About Pornography by jaephoenix(m): 1:38pm On Mar 19, 2023 |
AnyanwuSilas: Why insult me, did I insult you? Dont bother. Theists always want to protect their god because he is actually powerless. And they insult anybody trying to question him |
Christianity Etc › Re: 7 Things Many People Don't Know About Pornography by jaephoenix(m): 1:33pm On Mar 19, 2023 |
dontrulee: You dey talk nonsense. If you don't have any sensible thing to say, just keep quiet He's right. Point out where the Bible condemned masssturbation |
Christianity Etc › Re: 7 Things Many People Don't Know About Pornography by jaephoenix(m): 1:28pm On Mar 19, 2023 |
Adakintroy: Religion is the psychology of the ages. If someone said porn is bad..what has he said that common scientist has or will not say.
People like you who see nothing good even the obvious are what is wrong with science. Science religion don't fight, they compliment. Is all for the good of mankind. No they don't compliment each other |
Christianity Etc › Re: 7 Things Many People Don't Know About Pornography by jaephoenix(m): 1:27pm On Mar 19, 2023 |
PythonPros: Your points are duly noted and i have no interest critiquing them since it's clear that you are a quite the professed authority in the subject matter.
I am particularly interested though in point number 7. You seemed so passionate and fixated in your belief that "Pedophilias thrive more without porn".
Can you share any links to articles or documentaries supporting this statement or are we to conclude you arrived at this based on your own vast wealth of experience? Pedophilia is a criminal paraphilia, meaning its an punishable sexual perversion. Its something one gets addicted to gradually. Many people(even here on Nairaland) have been assaulted as kids by uncles, aunts, parents etc. And this have been around way before porn became common. The causes are maultifactorial and nebulous. Most commonly atteibuted factor is hormonal(though it is inconclusive) https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4478390/https://psychcentral.com/disorders/causes-of-pedophilia |
Christianity Etc › Re: 7 Things Many People Don't Know About Pornography by jaephoenix(m): 1:05pm On Mar 19, 2023 |
Fmghewzy: Are you sure you understand what the guy is saying Sha before you started attacking him.
Cause if you did , you would see that he right to an extent.
In some areas you are right as well. I just don't understand why you are attacking him. I understand him perfectly. Please point out where I'm wrong |
Christianity Etc › Re: God Did Not Create Good And Evil by jaephoenix(m): 1:04pm On Mar 19, 2023 |
tctrills: And God saw every thing that he had made, and, behold, it was very good. And the evening and the morning were the sixth day. So you are saying evil is good? |
Christianity Etc › Re: God Did Not Create Good And Evil by jaephoenix(m): 1:02pm On Mar 19, 2023 |
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Christianity Etc › Re: God Did Not Create Good And Evil by jaephoenix(m): 11:47am On Mar 19, 2023 |
correctguy101: Isaiah 45:7 agrees with the Quranic verse you post.
But truly I say to thee, let no man say this is good or that is bad, for there's really nothing good or anything bad. That is why the ancestors say one man's food can be another's poison.
It's like a man that snatches a bird from the claws of an hungry cat. Is that good or bad? It's good to save the bird yet very evil to deprive another from their daily bread....  So is murder good or bad, according to your opinion? |
Christianity Etc › Re: God Did Not Create Good And Evil by jaephoenix(m): 11:46am On Mar 19, 2023 |
advocatejare: But Allah said that evil is from him, are you calling Allah a liar?
.... If some good befalls them, they say "This is from Allah". But if evil, they say "This is from thee" (O prophet). Say: "All things are from Allah.... -Quran 4:78 We're talking about Yahweh here, not Allah. Get a grip on reality |
Christianity Etc › Re: God Did Not Create Good And Evil by jaephoenix(m): 11:45am On Mar 19, 2023 |
Dtruthspeaker: A gun was in existence before you were born and you know why you are punished for possessing one, so no issue here What is the relevance of this post to the OP's? |
Christianity Etc › Re: God Did Not Create Good And Evil by jaephoenix(m): 11:44am On Mar 19, 2023 |
AntiChristian: So that all may know, from where the sun rises to where it sets, that there is none but Me; I am the LORD, and there is no other. I form the light and create the darkness; I bring prosperity and create calamity. I, the LORD, do all these things. Isaiah 45:7
What calamity did "the LORD" create? I was about posting this passage before you beat me to it. Looks like most chrissies don't even know their buybull A pity |
Christianity Etc › Re: Jesus Christ Was Chosen Even Before Adam's Sin. God Does Not Make Mistakes by jaephoenix(m): 11:41am On Mar 19, 2023 |
tctrills: Is God omnipresent? And yes, the entire purpose of religion and worship is for him to direct our lives and path and ultimately becoming like him. 1. Are you saying Yahweh isn't omnipresent? Yes or no 2. You're speaking from both sides of your mouth. You say your aim of seeking any god is to be omnipotent, omnipresent and omnibenevolent. In the same breath, you said its for direction. Please be more coherent |
Christianity Etc › Re: Jesus Christ Was Chosen Even Before Adam's Sin. God Does Not Make Mistakes by jaephoenix(m): 9:38am On Mar 19, 2023 |
tctrills: Now my 6 year old. Becoming like God means having his power and his knowledge. It means we can do all things. That is what it means to become like God. Is that 6 year old enough? Ok, my elder bro. Now here's the question sir. The attributes of a god includes omniscient, omnipresent, omnipotent, omnibenevolent etc. So you pray so you'll have all these powers?  |
Christianity Etc › Re: 7 Things Many People Don't Know About Pornography by jaephoenix(m): 9:29am On Mar 19, 2023 |
trendo360: Plenty nonsense. Tell those into porn the medical side effect of it with proofs instead of typing plenty words trying to make just a point. There's no medical 'side effects' |
Christianity Etc › Re: 7 Things Many People Don't Know About Pornography by jaephoenix(m): 9:26am On Mar 19, 2023 |
PythonPros: This. He/She literally said nothing. Was expecting him to discuss the following 1. A user's IP address can be noted and used for blackmail. 2. Similarly, a user's camera can be hacked to capture the images of users for blackmail 3. Chronic porn users tend to derive less satisfaction from their real life partners 4. Chronic porn users tend to hit a plateau quicker hence seek riskier and more morbid sex acts to fuel their insatiable desires. 5. Lack of trust in your partners especially when caught engaging in despicable weird porn. 6. Promotes early sexual activities in children Etc 7. Promotes pedophilia, incest, homosexuality, trans-porn, bestiality... Take ur pick
Forcing religion down people's throat achieves nothing since most people do not feel guilty as watching porn IS NOT A CRIME.
Heck, most movies now have some degree of porn in them.
Let's be reasonable please in our submissions. 1. You're talking online porn. What if he's watching a porn channel? 2. Ditto 1 3. Happens to non porn watchers too, especially people that cheat 4. Ditto 3 5. Not all porn are despicable. And non-porn watchers still distrust their spouse when they cheat. In fact distrusts happen in cheating more than porn watchers(if it happens at all) 6. I never watched porn til I was in secondary school, and I have friends like that. They still got their girls early. In fact, I didn’t even start having sex til uni. So this point is unacceptable 7. Absolute rubbish. Pedophilias thrive more without porn. And people didn't become pedophiles, trannies etc by watching porn. Did you even think before spewing this? |
Christianity Etc › Re: 7 Things Many People Don't Know About Pornography by jaephoenix(m): 9:18am On Mar 19, 2023 |
Dtruthspeaker: You are blaspeming me but certainly both you and the other guy is blaspheming God.
Adam did and he got dusted. The stupid guy who kept his talent did it and got thrown in hell. Yours is Fire! Lawag3 |
Christianity Etc › Re: 7 Things Many People Don't Know About Pornography by jaephoenix(m): 9:17am On Mar 19, 2023 |
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