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Maynman:
You certainly don’t know what “gay” means.

Same for this. Educated the dude. He seems dense in these matters

Maynman:
Wrong!
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2015/sep/09/being-gay-african-history-homosexuality-christianity

http://america.aljazeera.com/opinions/2014/4/homosexuality-africamuseveniugandanigeriaethiopia.html

See why i said agnostics are monotheist sympathizers.

I have already intimated him of these info

Trollronaldo:
yes, not all animals sir.

Can you jusy stop spreading this lies?

Which animals don't engage in it?

Trollronaldo:
yes.

I thought I have debunked this proposition. Those researches are inconclusive

Dtruthspeaker:
See how the devils are screaming at death being directed towards them. They thought they were the only ones with a licence to kill.

Have you seen an atheist terrorist organization?

LordReed:
Yeah with possible exceptions in insects like ants and termites. The exception list would be relatively smaller.

Yeah. Maybe. I'll have to check those out

TheSourcerer:
are you gay though ? Bi-sexual maybe?

Nah bro. I'm straighter than an arrow. Love me some good pussy. I love lesbians tho. Dont care about gay niggas

LordReed:
Bwahahahahaha!. Are you incapable of listing the environmental factors you would remove to limit the spread of homosexuality?

This thread is well into its 11 page, yet this dude, who has been bickering about the 'environmental factors' hasnt intimated us

LordReed:
Rather the question is in which animal hasn't it been observed. Dogs, cats, chimps, ducks, lions, elephants, dolphins and so on. The list is shorter if you care to name the animals that haven't been observed doing it.

Virtually all animals engage in it

dalass:
You saw dogs mating or hens, horses,lions or which of these animals are you talking about?

Have you been following this thread, or you jumped in midway

Trollronaldo:
It means that you have not been following.


The argument is "Environmental factors can aid the spread of homosexuality, I didn't say that environmental factor can create it"


Let me give you an analogy that can help "environmental factor can help the spread of HIV, environmental factors with respect to peculiar culture may not necessarily create it"

Which environmental factors spread HIV

Trollronaldo:
ok, lemme to rephrase, maybe you will stop shooting at the strawman.

The argument is "not" environmental factors can cause the rise of homosexuality.

The argument is "Environmental factors can make homosexuality spread faster".

Please can you address the latter?

No offense. What's the difference

dalass:
Biology and agriculture science are part of science. In agriculture for example, how does a goat or pig business become profitable? You get male and female to breed offsprings!

The so called new age stuff wants to turn everything on its head!

You see someone who is female say call me pronouns like they, them and not "she, her"

It is even so unnatural and quite disgusting to see a man and a man, or a woman and a woman cuddling, having sex with themselves. Many of those idiots initiate little ones from very young ages. So it isn't natural, it is careful programming and nuturing impressionable kids to these unbecoming silly lifestyle and then they say it is natural! For where?

1. What do you understand by 'natural'?
2. We're not talking about 'trans personalities' here, but homosexuality. See the difference?

LordReed:
I have expressed the same thought. I used to naively think Christians were not prone to becoming extremists but I have been thoroughly dissuaded.

Oh, they abound. Check out christian terrorists. They kill Muslims and perceived enemies. And the media is kinda sympathetic to their cause

Trollronaldo:
lol. You don't know what you are talking about

Actually youre the one that's clueless

DeusXmachina:
It's not impossible to be agnostic and still have bigotry, but I'm questioning what path he went through to arrive at his agnosticism, that didn't work for him to examine his homophobia.

But I was referring to Dtruthspeaker, I remember him being a fundamentalist christian, but now he's so far down the rabbit hole, he's parroting "how to genocide 101".
I won't be surprised if he starts his own terror organization anytime now, with the way he's sounding like shekau.

Christian terrorist organizations exists.
Check them out.
https://www.salon.com/2015/04/07/6_modern_day_christian_terrorist_groups_our_media_conveniently_ignores_partner/
Our dear DTruthSpeaker may be in a sleeper cell.
I used to have my pic on my Nairaland profile, but I had to take it down when I became much more active, cos of folks like him

Xxxxtentacion2:
Oga its not the environment that turned them into gays, they were always gays its just that they can't express themselves that much in Nigeria...
If you carry 10 straight kids and put them in the UK after five years they will still be straight...
They is nothing in the UK that turns people into gays its just that they encourage people to express themselves more...
What percentage of UK population is gay if you know...

Dude just pulls out evidence and data from his ass and drops it on our laps

Trollronaldo:
this guy, you really Have a low IQ.
That's not how it works, you work with large sample size.

Your reasoning should be, if you place 1000 children in U.K and Nigeria, which of the two groups will probably become more queer in another 10 years.

Of course, it's common sense, more of the 1000 children in United Kingdom will likely become quer because there is an environment for it there unlike Nigeria. It doesn't mean that all 1000 will be queer.

Reason na

Are you aware that about 90% of 'queers' in Nigeria, don't come out of the closet, and probably wouldn't ever? For obvious reasons

Trollronaldo:
it's a stupid question.
Its like asking me what environmental factor influences drug addiction.

Of course, majority of drug addicts where not born to be drug addicts, they were introduced to it by people in their environment. Many homosexuals were not born queer, they were introduced to the act by people in their environment.

The question doesn't make sense.

You're comparing homosexuality with drug addiction? Like seriously?

Trollronaldo:
homosexual exist but will not fester if not legalize.
By doing this, you will reduce and manage the spread. That's why it has a genetic undertone but the spread is adide by environmental factors. These are simple terms that are not hard to grasp.
If you don't create an e environment for it, it won't spread fast.

You cannot compare the prevalence of homosexuality in a society where its legal and another where it's not.

It's common sense.

In other words, if homo is banned, the spread is reduced. Is that what you're saying?

Trollronaldo:
What kind of question is this? 😂😂😂

Answer the question. Just humor us

Trollronaldo:
I am not comparing smoking to homosexuality, I am trying to let you see that it not a disorder per se, it's has to do with influence like smoking. That's environmental factors

I am not saying it's a disorder. I am saying that it can cause social disorder and its psychologically influenced.
Smoking is not a disorder but it ca be influenced.
This is your post where you compared it to smoking. Be stable so we know how to handle your case

Trollronaldo:
I am not saying it's a disorder. I am saying that it can cause social disorder and its psychologically influenced.
Smoking is not a disorder but it ca be influenced.

You have been screaming psychological disorder for 10 pages now. And I have been asking which psychological disorder, but you seem to be deaf about it

Trollronaldo:
Is that not the essence of a our discussion?

If you don't allow it to fester in your society, you will reduce the environmental influence, thereby reducing the health and social problems that comes with it. You can do it by making homosexuality strictly a genetic or psychological issue and that it has to be treated as such

Lol. Gays aint mentally ill. You need to get a grip on reality, bro

Trollronaldo:
I just it should be treated as a genetic disorder if confirmed and a psychologically disorder if not genetic. Because it's what it is.

It's not normal.

Its neither of the 2.
In the ICD 10, there is no pathology known as homosexuality. And those researches you hurriedly dropped here are not accepted into the medical community because it is in research stage, and hasn't been double checked. Always read your articles to the end before dropping it here

Trollronaldo:
a gay is a male Homosexual.

A lesbian is a female homosexual

A lesbian is not a gay

Read up here
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gay

Trollronaldo:
another gene on the human X chromosome with Xq28 (green) located at the tip of the long arm of the chromosome. Studies of the X chromosome as well as the entire human genome have linked Xq28 to the heredity of homosexuality in human males.

Please kindly research carefully before replying me

Did you finish reading up these researches and digest them, before you hurriedly post them here?

Trollronaldo:
nonsense, you can.
2/3 of gay spread is caused by environmental factors.
More people are likely to be gay in an environmental where homosexuality is legal.

Have you seen someone that was gay, yet he or she had no gay influence? How did s/he get 'gayed'?

Trollronaldo:
there's genetic undertone to some aspect of homosexuality with respect to hormonal disruption.
A gene named SLITRK6 on chromosome 13 was identified. The research supports another study which had been done by the neuroscientist Simon LeVay. LeVay's research suggested that the hypothalamus of gay men is different from straight men. The SLITRK6 is active in the mid-brain where the hypothalamus is.

However, a substantial amount of queer were influenced, it is this aspect that I have a problem with

In terms of the new results, there's bound to be a lot of interest in the study, but the researchers are eager to emphasise their findings are largely speculative for now, since there's still a lot we don't know about what these genetic variations really mean.

There's also the relatively small size and skewed European basis of the sample – not to mention the fact that it's all men – which limit what it can tell us about genetic underpinnings to sexual orientation more broadly across race and sex lines
Im surprised at this post, because these researches aren't yet double-blinded, and thus can't be stated as scientifically binding.
As for now, there is no stand-alone gay gene

Trollronaldo:
take a breath and study global dollar hegemony and then come back

He who pays the piper, dictates the tune. If your economy is so strong that it controls the world, then it means you are doing something right, aint it?

Trollronaldo:
go and ask ancient Africans. I already highlighted all the contemporary risks

Out of all the risks you stated, none holds water. Anal sex which is the main transmission route of HPV(which is the culprit for anal warts) which causes rectal carcinomas, is also practiced by heterosexuals.

Trollronaldo:
read this study, I don know why simple stuffs like this are difficult for you to research.

Please before you move the goalpost again, kindly note that I don't have an issue with the genetical aspect of homosexuality, what I have issues with is the influence an homosexual-based environment can have on some straight people which is the core of all the social and health issue I have been discussing. The environmental influence aspect is the core tool with whcuh homosexuality is been driven and sold to others.

https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2008/06/080628205430.htm

There is no single gene responsible for a person being gay or a lesbian.

That's the first thing you need to know about the largest genetic investigation of sexuality ever, which was published Thursday in Science. The study of nearly a half million people closes the door on the debate around the existence of a so-called "gay gene."

In its stead, the report finds that human DNA cannot predict who is gay or heterosexual. Sexuality cannot be pinned down by biology, psychology or life experiences, this study and others show, because human sexual attraction is decided by all these factors.

"This is not a first study exploring the genetics of same-sex behavior, but the previous studies were small and underpowered," Andrea Ganna, the study's co-author and genetics research fellow at the Broad Institute and Mass General Hospital, said in a press briefing on Wednesday. "Just to give you a sense of the scale of [our] data, this is approximately 100 times bigger than any previous study on this topic."

https://science.sciencemag.org/cgi/doi/10.1126/science.aat7693

These things you posted are just theoretical. Science is still stumped on homosexuality