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Dtruthspeaker:
As I said, if you were not a 12 year old, you would have heard that your gods (scientists) whom you love and worship have said It takes less than 30 seconds to get a first impression.

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://swnsdigital.com/us/2018/12/it-takes-less-thank-30-seconds-to-make-a-first-impression/%3Famp%3D1&ved=2ahUKEwiawqOrirH9AhUYRfEDHQE6ABkQFnoECCIQAQ&usg=AOvVaw2n9sYcoknjhHfNF94obcBv

So there is so much I can learn in 3 minutes.

Lol. You can make an impression in even 5 secs. The most important thing is the accuracy of the impression. That 30 secs most times gives a wrong impression. So with the wrong impression, do you think you can figure out the 'fruits' of such a person?

Jackanda1:
Well, I was an atheist.

Good. Same way you're worked up about atheism is the same way we're worked up about Christianity.
Savvy?

waldigit:
Natural man can't be easily convinced with things of Spirit, but I have a special ministry of doing that for willing mind.

Translation

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I don't have any data to convince you, so lemme take a quick break and give one of our regular excuses

Dtruthspeaker:
Do we not meet people whom we do not know everyday through various means and mode of meeting people?

I know atheism makes its followers have the intelligence of 12 year olds.

Lol. You meet a random guy, lets say in a stadium, bus or school. You don't if he's Catholic, JW or even atheist. Now how do you know this guy's 'fruit'? Remember you interfaced only 3 mins.
I'm waiting…

waldigit:
I only remind you. Anyway you may not understand if you don't believe He is.

No need to remind me, I know all that bullshit. And it doesn't stand up to scrutiny. That's why your comment lacks convincing power

Dtruthspeaker:
By their fruits we know them. (Hope this 12 year old has passed primary 5 to understand idioms and proverbs o)

Lol. Dude. I know in your religion, its illegal to actually engage your cerebral cortex.
We are talking about people you don't know their identity or address. How would you know their 'fruits'?

paxonel:
read it again

I did. I just quoted you. You actually said you don't know. And the truth is its impossible

Dtruthspeaker:
Let me rephrase my first answer as though I am speaking to a 12 year old.

Because those who are rejected by God are those who are in great suffering and in great pain.

Thus, from the abundance of their great sorrow and pain, their mouths curseth.

So how do you know they are in great suffering? Remember you don't live with them, and probably don't know them. How did you arrive at your diagnosis that they are actually suffering?

Dtruthspeaker:
Liar! What you already know about me is that you can not do rubbish with me. Either you argue validly or you shut up as you lose. No one can pretend or twist or dodge issues by changing post, around me.

Make a valid argument or shut up, that is The Law of Debate!

Lemme give you one more chance.
How do you know the 'rejected' folks you talked about aren't blessed and satisfied, even more than you?
Be clear in your answer. Good luck as you rack your brain

MaxInDHouse:
Of course i do read about these things in news but never has a Hindu or Buddhist spoken to me about anything perhaps you know a Hindu or Buddhist on Nairaland please tell me his/her name.
So it means such gods aren't supreme they're like local councilors whose existence is within their locality unlike Jehovah my own God who travelled throughout the earth to fetch for worshipers in all races! Isaiah 2:2-4

Ọmọ since they have no witnesses here why not let's conclude that they don't exist?

Ok. Lemme put it this way, since you don't understand.
Nairaland is a local forum, and caters to Nigerians, and to a small extent, non Nigerians.
If you have an Indian forum, do you think the majority there would be talking about your Yahweh?
You'll only hear about the Flying Spaghetti Monster in American forums, because much of its followers are americans?
Do you now understand

Dtruthspeaker:
Obviously because you are too stupid to understand.

I have learned something about you. When a certain debate is going against you, you suddenly throw a nonsensical post and posit that its the truth. And when prodded for clarity ,you spew your regular insults. Nobody is a fool here(except maybe some of your fellow theists)

MaxInDHouse:
If truthfully you do threads upon threads in the name of your God should have been a sign that you know your God but unfortunately you only argue against others talking about their Gods you have never opened a thread to preach or teach about your GOD!

Do you see Hindus, Buddhist etc open threads here?No. Does it mean such religions don't exist? No

Dtruthspeaker:
Fool! When the weeping starts, you won't even be here.

Lol. Oh DTruthSpeaker I'm worried about live

Dtruthspeaker:
Stupidoo, no thirsty person can delude himself that he is satisfied.



Because hatred of God is always in the mouths of those who are in tribulation and sorrows and in great pain. From the abundance of their great sorrow their mouths curseth.

Lol. How does your post answer my question? Did you pass jamb?

paxonel:
to be sincere, the process how man was going to live forever before the fall of man, the bible didn't state that clearly, so i wouldn't know.

But how man is living forever today, the bible clearly state that

1 Corinthians 15:35 But some man will say, How are the dead raised up?(note : it is not saying how are the dead going to be raised up) and with what body do they come? ( it is not saying with what body are they going to come

Obviously, when we die we will come back with a different body.

With this, there is no fear of depletion of resources leading to ecological imbalance since the body is continually recycled through death

So in other words, you don't know how man is going to live forever

Dtruthspeaker:
Every one has confessed that "it was not like this before" and the family, broken, so you are talking rubbish.



Even stopping into stupidity is now a character of yours! (I will try not to forget this)

You even confessed it on my thread that this phenomenon has hit several other countries apart from Nigeria therefore it is global.

1. Which 'everyone' confessed brothers fighting each other is worse?
2. Which phenomena did I say its hitting several countries?

KnownUnknown:
Lol.

This dude's delusion is more psychotic than I thought.
At this rate, he'll need ElectroConvulsive Therapy and not antipsychotics

KnownUnknown:
Lol.

This dude's delusion is more psychotic than I thought

Dtruthspeaker:
The Bible prophecied that love shall wax cold such as never seen before and today we have seen these things, husbands and wives, brothers and family members are all enemies and O.Y.O is the way of living.



Revelation 13:17

The same way it did not say Nigeria or Isreal when it Said "love shall wax cold and brother shall hate brother" so you do not have any valid thing to say here.

1. Brothers and blood have been at loggerheads since time immemorial. In fact, wars have been fought between brothers or family members.
Rubbish number one.
2. So whatever that is quoted in the Bible can have local implication and not global?
You're funny
Now this is Rev 13:17
17[i] so that they could not buy or sell unless they had the mark, which is the name of the beast or the number of its name[/i]
How is this verse related to Nigeria? The situation we have is scarcity of cash to buy goods. Nobody is coercing anyone to accept any mark before buying or selling.
Rubbish number two.

MaxInDHouse:
Let's leave it at that for now because it's after you're well acquainted with the being you know as SUPREME that you can speak well about him/her/it with others!

What makes you think I don't know His Spindly Glory? May his Noodly Limbs has mercy on your soul

waldigit:
Don't forget He is God and not a man. As heaven is far from earth so is his ways from man.

Whoa.
Now that is a quick dodge technique.
… only that you won't escape that easily.
Few hours ago you were sure about 'the ways of the lord' and were dishing advices. Suddenly you can't defend him again, and you landed on that much used cliche which has been used by Christians when they get stumped. So if the way of the lord is so mysterious why do y'all claim that he loves you? Why do you think he doesn't hate your guts?

Dtruthspeaker:
Psalm 23 is my normal song because The Lord blesses me even too too much to the point that I am satisfied with life and ready to meet Him! I have already signed out from this world. Exactly as Written!

Lol. The sheer delusion.
And how do you know the 'rejected' folks aren't blessed and satisfied, even more than you?

Dtruthspeaker:
Being active for The Lord does not mean that The Lord has accepted you. Catholics and jws are "active for The Lord" but we know that The Lord can never accept them

Lol. And how do you know the lord accepted you?

paxonel:
then we have failed to follow the right principle that ensure success
ofcourse one can be in heaven and die of hunger if he is ignorant.
Scriptures says my people perish because they lack knowledge. That is also applied in heaven!

Luke 19:11 And as they heard these things, he added and spake a parable, because he was nigh to Jerusalem, and because they thought that the kingdom of God should immediately appear.

Read the preceding verses of this chapter and see the parable Jesus used to illustrate what happens in the kingdom of heaven, that if you don't work you may suffer

we'll all be alive, there wouldn't have been anything called death.
Initially, man was created to live forever.

Lol. Do you actually think every man could have lived forever. Lol. Christians.
The resources on earth would have been depleted long ago and the ecological balance disrupted

falcon01:
how do you think all this came to been? Why are we humans the only ones building cars Houses, and guns? Why are we aware of ourselves and surrounding? Why are we?

Good question.
The truth we don't know how we came here. Scientists aren't sure though a number of theories are around. Also evolution explained how we moved from unicellular to multicellular beings. Its not shameful to say I don't know, after all, there were many phenomena science didn’t know how they happened, but today, its common knowledge. Like lightning, droughts, floods etc. The ancient man thought it was caused by gods by science has dispelled all such nonsense. And science has already dispelled the creation stories of each religion
But to say we were created, is wrong. Why? Many cultures and religions claim their favorite god created the world, but they all have a common theme and that is lack of evidence, and the fact that their holy books contain lots of lies, and contradictions. Which drastically reduces their credibility.

OkCornel:
Lol, Satan wrote versions of the Bible? That’s news to me.

All I’m asking is to go to the original language the scriptures were written and translate directly to English from there.

There are bible study tools that can help with that.

The Hebrew phrase translated as “little children” here in the King James Version is קָטָן (qatan) נַעַר (naar) which carries the meaning of “small boys, young men, youth.” In 1 Kings 3:7 Solomon says, “And now, O LORD my God, thou hast made thy servant king instead of David my father: and I am but a little child (qatan naar).” Some suggest that Solomon was in his mid-twenties while an ancient book called, Apostolical Constitutions II (Ed. Lagarde 14, 17) suggest that he may have been as young as twelve: “Solomon was King of Israel when twelve years old.” Other places in Scripture seem to indicate that qatan naar refers to “young men” (1 Samuel 20:35; 1 Kings 11:17).

Source https://lastmessageofmercy.com/article/view/2-kings-223-25-did-god-kill-children-as-a-result-of-elishas-curse

OkCornel:
Go to the Hebrew Scriptures and prove to me it was kids that mocked Elisha.

The original authors wrote the scriptures in English abi?

These are the translations. Most used 'boys' few used 'children'

OkCornel:
Go to the Hebrew Scriptures and prove to me it was kids that mocked Elisha.

The original authors wrote the scriptures in English abi?

Are you amongst those christians like Dtruthspeaker that believe Satan wrote most versions of the Bible? And this is KJV youre casting aside like this

falcon01:
doesn't sound fair

Why

MaxInDHouse:
Now you see what i mean?
At least i made you a believer in the supreme being whatever you call yours doesn't matter just believe (trust) in a supreme being first then we can talk about the way forward!

Ok, now I believe in a supreme being. What next? Do we need to suck their dicks or what

falcon01:
so there is no God and Religion is a waste if time

Bulls-eye

paxonel:
that is the scam they are scamming people, especially people of poor countries in Africa who are in search for food to eat.
The op is a chief scammer beware of him

Scriptures made us to understand that heaven is not about food or drinks.
Heaven is about eternal life.

Ofcourse if you want food you can always work for it, anyone can work for food you don't need to be a believer to do so

But heaven is about restoring man back to the state he was when Adam and Eve was created, which is eternal life

So what if we work for food and we still dont get it? Like some that die of hunger. Is it still heavenly?
Do you think if Adam had not eaten the fruit, we'll all be alive?