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Trollronaldo:
I know that the west are blackmailing other nations. Whether or not they have seccessfully confused some nations, I don't know, that's another topic

Which country blackmailed which one? Be specific

Dtruthspeaker:
The Bible also said most temptations are outside the body and we all know those temptations that come from our own passions eg desire of any woman that pleaseth the heart and eye, desire for cars for car lovers etc.

However, this devils know that the eye is also l a weakness while we all know it is a strength. Nevertheless, it is also a weakness and therefore, as already proven the devils are big on making people see, hence the investment in all the seeing things eg movies, magazines, pictures, adverts and television because they know that if man sees, man do! Eg fornication and premarital sex increased with the arrival of television and movies in the 60's where everyone then only saw the unclothedness of a woman only after marriage.

But thanks to man see, man do, premarital sex is now a normal occurrence.

Another example, James Brown followed bobrisky only because he saw how bobrisky became rich another monkey see, monkey do, and we all know that he did it for riches and not because he was tempted or had homosexual tendencies.

I have been watching violent American movies since a kid. Never picked up a gun to shoot anyone, or thought of it. If such movies, mags move you, you need to take a good hard look at yourself
By the way, I hate to burst your bubble(of ignorance). Bobrisky and James Brown aren't gay, just cross dressers. I don't think you understand the difference

MaxInDHouse:
You talking about intelligence earlier but from your later comments i discover you know little about INTELLIGENCE.

First of all an intelligent person doesn't have to force you into doing what you detest but when those who seems good, nice, kind and honest hearted to you began doing what you think is detestable your guard against the abominable will be weakened!

You said you're agnostic so it will be really hard for you to grasp how an unseen intelligent spirit being is subtly compelling the inhabitants of this planet to embrace what they formally detests with passion.

When God created this planet creatures having to do with sexuality are mainly males and females, but after Satan has convinced his spirit brothers (angels) into coming down to mate with female humans something strange happened to the human race: before then sex only takes place between two married persons but after those highly intelligent beings put on human flesh their goodlooking, intelligence and wealth made all the females on earth to fall for them so that instead of first taking this handsome guys home to their parents who will in turn ask for the families or background of these beautiful young guys the ladies started sleeping with them to keep the fine guys to themselves. That was how sex before marriage (fornication) became something normal to many humans.
Today Satan is using countries who seems to be highly sensitive towards the rule of human laws to promote LGBTQ in other countries who are either developing or underdeveloped.
So when atheists, agnostics and misinformed religionists who wants to mingle noticed that it has been embraced in advanced countries they'll welcome it as if it's OK.
No matter what you type here as long as your fellow agnostics, atheists or religionists began taking it as harmless to the society you'll be left with no other option than to compromise.

That's why you need to have faith in other to distinguish between right and wrong, and between the society promoting what is right from the society welcoming decadence!

I didn’t know Yahweh was conducting weddings between Adam and Eve, Cain and unknown females etc?

Trollronaldo:
we actually do jot need science to do that. That's the point.
Another point is that, the west should also stop blackmailing others who won't make it legal in their countries.

You said so that Western countries is blackmailing us via science, now you've changed to Western countries(alone).
You put yourself in that position. If your country is financially strong, would be begging for aids?
And besides they don't force African countries to accept gays

Jackanda1:
An average atheist on nairaland knows nothing about science. They only know how to bash God

Ok

Dtruthspeaker:
This is the point of all their human studies. They know how us more than we know ourselves for as they are our enemies, they have been studying and studying us whereas, we have been living our lives not knowing that an enemy is watching our every move and now he knows our openings which he can exploit to our destruction.

So, they know, to our indignation that we are monkey see, monkey do, which they tried with getting people to be sexuality wreckfull, fornicating and adultering all around first through their movies, novels, magazines, music videos etc and now that one has been successful.

Next, they told everyone, "there is no God, religion is a scam"and now idiots are stupidly repeating it all over the place.

So now, they are going for the big ones, homosexuality.

After that, they would go for beastiality which I call animality which they are presently hiding it under the cover of robotility aka sex dolls (though this one seems not to have much fire these days but I am sure it is a plan, they would still return to it when they are ready. But right now their interest is homoshitology!

Where did they announce in news that there I no god? Where have you been atheists broadcasting and doing live streams? About homo, have you seen a homo streaming services that broadcast into your channels like DSTV?
Conspiracy theories have killed you

Trollronaldo:
Homosexuality is here, it's not everywhere here.
Change that, that's a flawed reasoning.

It's like smoking weed is illegal here, it's here but majority don't smoke weed. It doesn't mean we should make weed legal.
Laws are meant to be broken, it's why thy are laws. Some people will break it anyways. Laws are set because people are already breaking it before it was established.
So that logic doesn't make sense


Stop following the western bandwagon. Communities can thrive and progress without homosexuality. The problems homosexuality will bring, if allowed to thrive, greatly outweighs the benefits.

Ranging from social challenges, public health challenges to marital challenges. Widespread queer can lead to social breakdown and even lose of population growth in the long run. It has a way of influencing people's approach to many things.

Learn to reason for yourself with respect to the peculiarities of your society. Asians are doing that. Don't take every western jargons.

1. Whether I used 'its everywhere' or 'its here'. Its the same thing. Even semantically.
2. Its illegal here. Yes. Still didn't stop anyone from doing it.
3. I just told you in my first post that I hate trannies(thus I am not in the 'Love everything western' bandwagon) but maybe you have reading disabilities and didn't see it
4. Are you sure heterosexual relationships also have problems? Is there any relationship, whether homo or hetero that doesn't have ish? All relationships breed health(STI) , social(unwanted preggos) even though the later is strictly a hetero issue.

Dtruthspeaker:
You are supposed to know what forcing is.

I do. I don't see anyone forcing someone to become gay here. Was the literature given to them against their wishes?
I have read gay shit. I didn't turn gay. Many kids read gay shit. And they are straight

Dtruthspeaker:
Die Satan, die! Die Satan die!

Why not use words like `Lucifer you shall die and burn in hell`
Seems more interesting

Dtruthspeaker:
Not when they start forcing others to like their rubbish.

Can you explain the 'forcing'?
Is Christianity being forced on us?

Dtruthspeaker:
See begging for followers. Kai Satan is wicked!

Why not use Belzebub? Satan is boring

falcon01:
yes I do! I know some gay people and we get along just fine I'm talking about kids Damn it! The sh*t been forced on kids who lack the basic Knowledge of How sexuality and Gender works! They grow and become messed up.

Again, explain how its forced on kids? Do you understand what forcing somebody is? Forcing means doing something against someone's [/b]wish. Or are they giving them such literature, [b]against their wishes ?

Trollronaldo:
it irritates me.
And then they call you homophobic. Wtf.

It's not a norm here, don't blackmail people into accepting a western norm

I expect an agnostic to have a certain level of intellect. Do you know homosexuality is rife in our society? Look at secondary schools and higher institutions and you'll know how these homosexuality is everywhere. The issue is acceptability. But whether it's acceptable or not, doesn't stop the trend. And it wasn't the white man that brought it here

falcon01:
My only concern with the LGBTQ+ alphabet gang is them forcing it on everybody, not even that but forcing it on little children who don't have an idea on how to grasp on the concept of Gender and Sexuality. A dude made an experiment and registered an account of 8-10 year old on YouTube kids and guess what The the suggested video was? It was filled with Homosexual stuff, Transecual stuffs, gender identity stuff, Drag shows and stuffs about accepting people for who they identify as with other lots of Bullshit. Wait let me look for a screenshot.

Can you explain what 'forcing in on everybody' means?
Do you agree Christianity is being forced on us by Christians?
Do you see anyone shouting you down to become gay? Or preaching about it in radios?

Trollronaldo:
Please kindly note that, I am not a religious person, I am an agnostic but I also do no agree that every society should be blackmailed into accept the idea of homosexuality on the basis of science. I also do not think that science should be used in selling homosexuality.


Atheist have this exaggerated trust in the efficacy of the methods of natural science applied to all areas of investigation. It's a major observation that I have had while trying to discuss the issue of homosexuality with an average atheist because of cause, majority of the proponent of homosexuality are largely atheists. They have this impression that people usually talk down on homosexuality because of religion and that there's a scientific basis to propagate it. If you don't agree with their so called "science of homosexuality", they will blackmail you.

What makes one intelligent is the ability to understand the sharp difference between culture and science, Identifying bad science, bad culture, good science and good culture. Know how bad science can influence good culture and bad culture can influence good science and then work to create a society to works majorly with a combination of good culture and good science like Japan is doing.
If you are over-reliant on science, you will blindly accept bad science. Yes, bad science exist.

Culture and science are two different things, science is a method used in understanding the natural world and solving critical problems in the society while culture is the way people live their lives. Don't make the mistake of thinking that science can be replaced with culture, science can only influence culture, culture remains culture.

The "science of homosexuality" has been able to influence the western culture in accepting homosexuality as a norm. It's normal if other societies do not think that the so called "science of homosexuality" would have any positive impact on their culture, hence its inappropriate to blackmail those societies like China, Russia, Japan, Middle East and most part of Africa who do not want to accept that culture. There's still no logical basis as to why they should accept it rather than "homosexuality is natural". Crossbreeding is also natural then why are you not having sex with chimpanzees?

Joepheonix LordReed Nlfpmod

1. Science is science. There's no good or bad science. Unless you don't understand it. And it is not being used to disseminate homosexuality.
Homosexuals are amongst many socially oppressed groups which the Western world is trying to de-oppress. Other concepts they are trying to aid is women oppression, racism and religious oppression. These Western agenda, even though its not without partiallity is still okay by me.

2. There are actually many sex apart from 'males' XY and 'females' XX. There are intersex states, genital ambiguity etc. What would you call them? These people present in any morphological state, example, a 'female' that has a dick(I'm not talking about trannies here), 'females' with no uterus. They are not genetically females. These groups of 'freaks'(sorry to use this word but that is what the world calls them, even though I hate it) have aligned with LGBTQXXX(whatever). Now I am straight, I'm not gay or bi. Love me some pussy. I don't have issues with homosexual guys. We can be friends and I can employ them, as long as they keep their tendencies to themselves. I like lesbians tho. Beautiful creatures. My issues are with trannies. I feel they are cheats, especially those that engage in sports. A male that trannied into female trying to do women sport is just plain cheats. They should have their own categories.
3. Animals have homosexuality. I believe u know this. I hope you aren't amongst Nigerians that argue gay animals don't exist.
4. Sorry China doesn't have an anti-gay law
5. I also hope you're not amongst Nigerians that believe homosexuality is alien. Lol. The truth is homosexuality was normal here in some parts of Africa before the White man brought Christianity and told us its bad. Just as they are now telling us its good by wedding gay couples. .
African history is replete with examples of both erotic and nonerotic same-sex relationships. For example, the ancient cave paintings of the San people near Guruve in Zimbabwe depict two men engaged in some form of ritual sex. During precolonial times, the “mudoko dako,” or effeminate males among the Langi of northern Uganda were treated as women and could marry men. In Buganda, one of the largest traditional kingdoms in Uganda, it was an open secret that Kabaka (king) Mwanga II, who ruled in the latter half of the 19th century, was gay.
6. I have never threatened anyone to become homosexual and I have never seen any atheist threaten anyone to become gay. So stop the falsehood

Dtruthspeaker:
Don't bother, you are already useless, There is nothing redeemable not repairable in you or on you, for you are already blind and deaf.

… and this is the guy that said we should show evidence of yahweh's falsehood? Lol

Dtruthspeaker:
Here comes a devil who says thathouseboys/girls, cleaners, personal assistants should not obey their bosses and employers.

Lol. When did I say that?

FRANCISTOWN:
Those are very repsected intelligent people you mentioned up there. I'm glad you are one of the people who have enough brain cells to understand that religion (All of them) is crap. Many will still go on to believe otherwise after having so much truth staring at them up in the face. Have you ever wondered when filling a bio-data form. The two main religion is Xtianity and Islam. Some have sense enough to add others. What does this mean? It means only Xtains and Muslims are recognised, the rest can kiss some a**es. Though it may be difficult, but thru the support of many others , one of our goals is to see to it that atheism is accepted in the society and to possibly have many buildings where people just meet and talk about the beauty of nature and how to help each other achieve goals and dreams

Lol. I understand you but this noble venture may work, maybe 50 to 100 years from now, and not in the immediate future. Just by telling someone you're an atheist, you're public enemy number one. My wife(a nominal christian) begged me not to argue with Christians again. My former hospital director(a christian) during a post said it doesn't employ atheists and would fire any, not knowing I'm one. He doesn't mind Muslims. I left the place quietly after. The animosity and hate you'll cop would make your life unbearable. Further up north, they'll murder you real quick, for your troubles. In fact, when a Muslim extremist is to choose between killing an atheist or Christian, he'll go for the former first, before the later.
So we're endangered species

Aemmyjah:
Who gives evidence to someone that loves ignorance?

Lol. Your faith is based on ignorance, in the first place

Dtruthspeaker:
I am not a liar, I said I will deactivate. I did not say that I would stop loving God.

But to show that God Wins all the time, I will up the stakes and say "I will become an atheists if there is anyone who can validly, reasonably and Truthfully counter my position."

So fire away it is all in record here.



You already know that I have defeated you severally in the past so you are tired of being beaten, so it is understandable why you sit in the audience.

So call your bests. Let's see if they shall not lose.

Hehehehe. This guy never fails to amuse me.

Dtruthspeaker:
And yet none give any reasonable and valid counter in opposition.

I am willing to deactivate and let you people have your way and go silent if any of you give a reasonable, valid and true answer in opposition, within the laws of decent debate.

So you all can take your shots.

There's no need. Even the ones we've been telling you here have been ignored by you

TheSourcerer:
Thank you for your comment and it excites me to know you are free from the religious shackles
I am not trying to be Negative at all I'm saying I'm done to an extent trying to 'Preach freedom" I have come to a conclusion Theists are physically unable to believe in the non existence of a God , maybe I am been negative or maybe I just don't care anymore which is very relaxing selfish but calming ,how is your day going though?

I understand you perfectly. Many of them are perfectly incapable of logical reasoning. And some have been steeped in religion since birth. It would be cruel to yank them off it. One even told me he can't survive without god. I just smiled and let him be

Dtruthspeaker:
God did not tell Abraham that If you pass my tests I will bless you. "No be everything dem dey tell pesin"'.



Yet you do not show the slave.

Ephesians 6:5-8 said servants and it is talking about normal employment and service. Of course you must be a devil to say that houseboys/girls, cleaners and personal assistants should disobey their bosses and employers.

Philemon 1:10-12 shows us that that was "Paul's own son "Onesimus" he said, not a slave. Philipians 1:12 did not say anything about slave.

So you see, you do not show anyone keeping a slave after God's commandments released them all.

https://www.nairaland.com/7554359/god-condemned-slavery-7-bible



"Out of the abundance of the heart the mouth speaketh"

"People seem not see that their opinion of the world is also a confession of character" Ralph Waldo Emerson.

I bothered to look up that verse for you. Here are the versions. Choose any one you like

Dtruthspeaker:
That is the "God made some people to go out to preach and tell everyone." I said. If not God lovers would not tell anybody anything, so that you people can continue walking and doing as you like till you enter the whole of complete destruction.

Maybe I need my eyes checked, but I was under the impression Jesus said 'go ye into the world'. He didn't say 'some of ye'
I even read all the Bible versions. Same shit

Dtruthspeaker:
hehehe! Who is my brother? Mark 3:35 ''Only those who love God and keep His Commandments".

Therefore, it is right to hate all you "I hate God people" for you are not my brothers or my neighbour but my enemies and God's enemies

So this is my prayer for them

Remember this, that the enemy hath reproached, O Lord, and that the foolish people have blasphemed thy name.

22 Arise, O God, plead thine own cause: remember how the foolish man reproacheth thee daily.

23 Forget not the voice of thine enemies: the tumult of those that rise up against thee increaseth continually ;

Set them up in slippery places and cast them down in destruction.D

Amen, brother DTruthSpeaker

FRANCISTOWN:
You don't read your Bible, but don't worry we got you. Mark 16:15-16
And he said unto them, Go ye into all the world, and preach the gospel to every creature. 16 He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved..." The same in Matthew 28:19-20. Going up and down preaching is one of Jesus's primary assignment to his followers. Thank you!

This dude isn't interested in Bible verses, don't you gerrit?
He has his own truths spun on the go as he rolls on

Dtruthspeaker:
Anyone who understands natural law would know that it is only a Person who was present at a particular time in view who gives a report in a present continuous tense.



And this is the correction. Biographies are written in 2 ways:

1) in present tense when it is written by the author himself eg "My Transition Hours by Goodluck Jonathan.

2) and in third party report speech in which the author always shows how he came about the information he gives, which shows that he was either present there or he was not there but was given the information by a person who was there eg see , "Goodluck Jonathan: The Making of a Statesman, written by Mr.Paul Nwankwo.



Then, we are bold to call you fool, for the nighttime in the village shows you how True that there is a light, even in the bush after the sun has departed.

But this is offpoint.

And you really think you are the first "i hate God" here. Error, all your brother's have raised all this arguments before and we destroyed them, that is why you do not see their rubbish threads again.

But again, all this is a departure from post!



We all know what a fall is, so your attempt to cover for them is useless.

And right now, you have proven you have nothing on this issue, so you have joined them in the fall and have lost.

1. Is the Bible written in present continuous term?
2. When someone writes his own biography, it becomes an autobiography. Maybe its a strange word, but its in the dictionary

FRANCISTOWN:
Lemme school, because obviously you do not read that your Bible 1 John 4:20 says if anyone says, “I love God,” and hates his brother, he is a liar; for he who does not love his brother whom he has seen cannot love God whom he has not seen." You do not have love in your heart did Jesus not ask you to pray for your enemies? But because even you know that prayers don't do jack.

Dtruthspeaker has his modus operandi and its not backed by the buybull

FRANCISTOWN:
I do not understand this



God never told them that, you are helping God again by saying what he didn't say.
.They still had slaves after the freedom, even Paul supported slavery in Eph 6:5-8, even Paul returned a runaway slave to the master in Phil 1:12

God even mentioned it in (Exo 20:10-17, Exodus 21:2-4, Deuteronomy 15:12). (Leviticus 25:39-46) Prolly you don't know some of us are even more grounded in the Bible.


After many many years of his support towards slavery, he later asked only Hebrew slaves to be freed in Jere 34



No1. Let's not get personal, trust me, you don't wanna travel this lane with me.

No2. You don't know me, you were too quick to conclude that my life is bitter (you are a "" like your fake daddy) . And just for the records. My life is not bitter. Till tomorrow I'm still as cute as 20 people joined together

No3. I'm not being punished, Everything is working according to plan and I'm still as cool as ever . You just showed that truly your God is a task master. You are scared of being punished right? Sorry o.

We(specifically LordReed and i)have pointed out this fact to him on 2 threads but like I stated earlier, DTruthSpeaker creates his own truths and realities, and doesn't give a fvck if it runs contrary to yahwehs scrapbook

FRANCISTOWN:
Believe me sir, though I'm not where I want to be right now. But I'm making serious effort because I'm sure my life is in my hands. I do not believe anything is impossible. About 400 people have seen this thread. Just if, I mean, if just 4 people are liberated via this thread, we are satisfied. The four can go on to liberate other four, that makes it 4+16= 20. Now the 16 liberate 4 each , that makes it 4+(16×4) = 68. Do you get the geometric progression now sir?

Wrong environment, and certainly wrong timing,bro. Critical reasoning is a taboo in this neck of the woods. Moreso, the capacity to reason that deep is even lacking, worsened by the religious fanaticity

TheSourcerer:
I am actually very impressed by the calm collected and non insulting replies of the Atheist compared with the Theists comments with fools, sinner, hell, condemned, hate , evil damnation blah blah .
I really commend the FreeThinkers very matured response all of em

We're used to it. The only atheists that get offended by it are the fresh ones. Old heads like us swim in insults, in fact we bask on it. Try having any discourse with dudes like Elated177, Druthspeaker, Jesusjnr2020 etc and you'll have a year's worth of insults showered beautifully on you
I think the insults is a divergent for them to avoid logical and factual thinking

FRANCISTOWN:
Anyone who understands "The rules of concord" would know that God definitely didn't write that. A third person subjective, objective, possessive and demonstrative pronouns(He, him, his, that) were used for God himself. It's just like how "biography" is written, you can't write your own biography (To the English liguists, I stand to be corrected). Without deviating from english language grammatical structure, this makes a whole lot of sense and I just sounded cool. However if you argued further that God wrote the books himself (which obviously he didn't) . Then we are bold to say God is a liar for creating light before the sun and the moon, and vegetations before the Sun which is common sensically impossible.



They didn't fall, they got busy and just decided to leave you. But I will not leave you alone, I will make you run out of this thread and all of my other threads in the future. People must be liberated

You are one hell of a guy. This guy DTruthSpeaker doesn't abide by the laws of logic, science or truth. He creates his realities and truth as he chooses, even if they run afoul of his holy book