₦airaland Forum

FarmTech:
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I can sense your no-wahala attitude .
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To the Op, I'm really ashame of Africa oo. Students are trying but our leaders and rich men aren't. In advanced countries, you will see people donating huge amount of money for research support. You hardly see that in Africa. Even if it happens some people will squander the money.
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There was one NL guy that built a rocket engine. I contacted him and one of the things he told me was that he did it for a government institution and the government gave them lots of money to continue the research. But guess what happened. They started fighting over the money, killing themselves oo. The guy just leave them and ran for his life. How can such a people progress? I pray that I and others like me will make a difference.
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Least I forgot. Africa will rather spend huge amount of money on immoral shows like BBN or BB Titan.
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And I forgot to say: Yes, all men were created by God, the father of Jesus Christ.

Western countries spend on 'immorality' and still spend on research.
And no, Yahweh doesn't exist thus couldn't have created anyone

AbdulMagaji:
Categorized as physicists?

Physicists are scientists. Astrologers aint

Lawag3:
Right now yeah we are increasing but wait till homosexuality is now in a majority it may soon be that way because the LGBTQ society are trying to indoctrinated children through movies and books

You know that some disease spread more quickly among homosexuals

In history civilizations like Rome the Greeks you might say homosexuality wasn't the cause of their downfall. Well you're right physically it wasn't spiritually it was. Like in the story of Sodom and Gomorrah the people didn't know that spiritually they have been mark for destruction physically it could have been a meteorite that wipe them out but it still doesn't change the fact that Thier destruction has be decided spiritually the spiritual controls the physical

1. Define 'indoctrination'? Now apply it to your narrative and see if it makes sense. Remember they are not telling the kids to be gay. They are simply telling them not to be homophobic ie don't attack or kill any homos. That's all. Go ahead and be straight but leave the gays alone
2. Are lesbians homosexuals too? If so, what disease spread quickly amongst them?
3. If you're gonna talk spiritual bullshit (that cannot be ascertained or confirmed), please check the next landfill. Thank you

Lawag3:
Homosexual can't reproduce so the workforce of a country reduced

Many diseases spread among homosexuals

Although you might not believe it but there are spiritual repercussions

Homosexuality is always a precursor to the death of a civilization

1. When Africa was replete with homosexuals, did our workforce reduce?
2. There's no specific disease that is spread through homosexuality, and in fact, lesbians spread STDs less than their straight counterparts
3. And no, I don't believe in spiritual. Its a huge pile of bullshit and you know it
4. Civilizations thrived with homosexuals, in fact we had homosexual kings in Africa
GET YOUR FACTS RIGHT BEFORE INTERFACING WITH ME

Lawag3:
I never said homosexuals were bad anybody can be bad gay or straight homosexuality is what I have a problem with it's unnatural and it doesn't add to society it takes from it.

What do you mean homosexuality is unnatural and what does it take from the society?

Lawag3:
I don't know where this question is leading to but do you believe that genetic engineering is unnatural that is tempering with the natural order changing some characteristics that normally will be there improving a characteristic. Nature has a way of doing things sometimes it isn't what we humans want so we temper with it change it to suit our taste. So to your question I have never thought it to be unnatural but I do know some bananas are forced to ripe before their due date others are injected to make them grow bigger.

That's not what he's saying

Lawag3:
Yeah but the science isn't stable yet still got a long way to go before it is main stream

It is actually mainstream. Its the same tech we used in producing cloned animals and cloned meat, which is sold in fast food outlets for years. The problem is ethical and religious issues raised by governing bodies and religious bodies, who feel humans are playing god.
This stem cell tech can also help us defeat plaguing diseases like sickle cell, diabetes etc

Lawag3:
I know that. You know what I also know is that these possibilities might just remain possibilities not reality.

They have been successful.
I'm sure you know of Dolly the sheep. Read her up
There has been other successes since then

Lawag3:
I never said that male and female animals can't reproduce. asexual organisms also reproduce using the male and female gametes not male and male or female and female gametes.

I'm talking all-male or all-female species. That is a species that comprises of only females, giving birth to new offsprings like that New Mexico whiptail lizards

Lawag3:
You should know that Parthenogenesis is impossible in humans a human child needs half chromosomes from both his parents to be human

And in Parthenogenesis sperm doesn't fertilize sperm an unfertilized egg only develop into an embryo and it only happens to lower life forms it can't happen among mammals.

So my point still stands since sperm can't fertilize sperm Homosexuality is unnatural.

1. You're now shifting the goalpost, you didn't mention mammals or humans, you're talking about fertilization without sperm. Now you have been caught by the balls, you're recanting dishonestly
2. Actually parthenogenesis happens in humans
https://www.newscientist.com/article/mg14819982-300-the-boy-whose-blood-has-no-father/
… and mammals
https://www.syfy.com/syfy-wire/parthenogenesis-has-been-achieved-in-mammals-for-the-first-time

So you need to get your shit right

MaxInDHouse:
Reports you said so you can't expect a JW to testify against such a person when only what we have is REPORT not what we saw!

That's the reason behind all the accusations you've been hearing all these while. People like you feel a JW should testify against fellow JWs in court when we aren't eyewitnesses!

Lemme break it down cos I see you're playing an ostrich.
A particular JW has been accused of mol@station several times by minors, and is reported to the elders. But there are no eye witness. Now he is accused one more time, and this time the case is before the authorities. Now during police investigation ,the elders are asked if the accused has been accused of such crimes before. But they deny it(or refuse to comment)
What do you think is the problem in the above scenario?

Hashabiah:
Don't be daft . Scientists can be biased and this has been proven through out history . One fine example will the Louis Pasteur. Kindly read up on him and see

2. Democrats are highly funded by LGBTQ communities and this is a fact you can check . In fact Biden and Nancy Pelosi openly stated this in their speeches on the day they were sworn in .

3. Like I said earlier, science doesn't say anything ; it is scientists that do . And any fool with a bias can put data on the internet space and call it factual, but reality and science will say things completely opposite the data . For example , scientific data analysis in 2020 showed that the streets of Africa will be filled with dead bodies due to covid , but the findings turned out to be less than even 33. 7% .

1. I read up on Pasteur just now, and I don't know what you're talking about. Even if a scientist was biased, you can't have all the scientists biased. This shows you don't even know how scientific methods work. Ignorance is all I see from you
2. Stop talking rubbish. I never said dems don't have donations from LGBTQ.
3. You're dafter than a red brick wall. No scientific body or scientists made any any analysis that Covid would litter the streets of Africa. That prediction was made by Melinda Gates, a mathematician. She has no medical degrees whatsoever, and just decided to make unfounded predictions. And whats worse, no doctor, scientist, CDC, WHO etc backed her up.

Look, I realize you're scientifically inept. Get your shit right before interfacing with me

Hashabiah:
Shut up .

1. LGBTQ already in the curriculum of all school in the west and that's because the LGBTQ community sponsors most Democrats and their electors. This is not a conspiracy theory and it is something you can check up on online.

2. You're deviating from the topic by bring in fallacies that arent even logically connected to the discussion

3. Where is the common theme that Christians and Muslims have ?

4. You're not a doctor ; you're just an idle troll with a penchant for illogical banter. No doctor I know will accept the idea that men are homosexuals by birth because that even goes against the laws of medical genetics and neurological biochemistry

1. LGBTQ content aren't in all school curricula, and the content there wasn't fitted there by LGBTQ. It was done by governments. Even if LGBTQ lobbied with unlimited sums of money, if their aim runs contrary to the Constitutions, it won't fly in their respective senates or parliament. Thus it means their agitations are legit.

2. I'm pointing out that the copulations of gay couples don't bother nobody. That's the point of this analogy

3. Did you read my point, or are you on auto-repeat mode? I said they have similar qualities. I didn't say they have the same god.

4. I'm not here to prove my profession. Its irrelevant to this discourse.
We know people exhibit homosexual tendencies from birth. Unfortunately I'm not responsible for your ignorance. You should hold your schools or your lack of cognitive reasoning responsible. You have no idea of medical genetics or neuro-biochemistry. So get the Bleep outta my sight

Hashabiah:
The authors you brought up were actually practicing homosexuals who have written about the finding you're boasting of ,thus making their validity not only biased, but outright illogical.

Secondly, it's a known all over the "woke " culture that the LGBTQ communities fund the Democrats and their government officials, which is why you'll see those officials advocating for the acceptance of homosexuality.

Deep down , even science knows homosexuals are mentally disturbed people who need help

1. Which authors? You mean scientists? Scientists don't tell governments what to do? They do their researches. The government has bodies who peruse those researches and makes recommendations to the government to make laws based on those researches
2. Democrats have funding from many people not just LGBTQ. And again, democrats dont make laws themselves. Whatever recommendations have to go through the house. If the LGBTQ agitation runs afoul of the Constitution, then its eschewed. Simple. But since it doesn't run afoul of it, it is upheld
3. I don't know how you came about the bolded, but hey, I'm chatting with a theist, facts and data don't mean nothing to them

Hashabiah:
Your ignorance is on another level

1. Gay people are forcing us to accept them through the LGBTQ curriculum being taught in schools and other institutions

2. Your analogy is a fallacy that's just deviating from the discussion's core theme .

3. All theist don't believe in the same God, or is the God of the bible the same as the God of the Quran ? No ! But you didn't knoe this because if you had taken the time to study , you won't be displaying this level of ignorance on a public forum.

4. Homosexuality is a mental disorder because the bulk of the human race is largely heterosexual. Any abnormalities in nature are not regarded as the true characteristics of a species and it would be insane to accept any deviating traits in a species of animals or men as normal

Bro, your daftness is intriguing.
1. LGTBQ arent in charge of school curriculum. Its the government. And that order to change it came from their constitutions. It's not LGBTQ that changed it. Yes, they lobbied for it. But the final judgement to amend their constitutions comes from their Supreme Courts( old men and women who aren't gay), after which their constitutions are changed to capture all human rights. Then after the Constitutional change, the curriculum and other amendments are done, before it gets to textbooks. And all these people involved in this chain of events(which takes years) aren't all gay, but they have something in common: upholding human rights
2. No, its not. Read it again
3. I didn't say they believe in the same god, you dafty. I said they have a common theme. Christians believe in yahweh who has a holy figure called jesus, and they believe in a holy book called Bible. Muslims believe in allah who has a holy figure called mo, and they believe in a holy book called qoran. Etc etc. Is that too hard for you to understand?
4. Again, no we doctors don't manage homosexuals. It's not a disease. Never a disease. Its sexual preference. Just like characters. Some people are bucolic. some are introverts, others extro.
So because most people are right handed, or cannot roll their tongues, others that are left handed, or can roll their tongues are pathologic? R u sure u don't need your brain checked?

MaxInDHouse:
YES just that the society we live thinks it's odd!

I don't live my life based on societal expectations. The number one person I should make happy is me

MaxInDHouse:
That the truth, i too don't fancy having children after the experience i've gathered in life so far. But the society in which we live so much believe in child rearing that's why many aren't enjoying their marriage.
What really baffles me is when gay and lesbian couples wants to have children!

Again, its none of your business. They wanted to give children who have been abandoned a home. Something you couldn't do

Hashabiah:
You're reading articles by authors who are homosexuals . The links you provided shows that the bulk of your authors are practicing homosexuals thus making their findings very biased

Whoa. Just whoa. So you found out one scientist is gay, that means all the scientists are all gays?
By the way, do you know how scientific data are obtained?
So you don't know data is testable and reproducible. Even if a scientist lied about something, the next scientist would find out.
Bro just take your L in peace

LordReed:
Of course but then how do you know?

And that is the summum bonum of all questions. How do you know?

Workch:
Scientism is an ideology that suggests that all knowledge can and should be absolutely dependent on scientific methods without considering the limitations of science with respect to many topics. Scientism with regards to atheism thinks that scientific method can determine the existence of all gods, without putting into consideration that there's a specific kind of God that is deistic that is beyond the scope of science. They also fail to realize that science is actually not interested in disproving gods, even if it tries, it can never disprove all gods, hence science is Agnostic with respect to religion.

Scientism is bad because it's

1. An inherently self-refuting philosophy.
2. Unscientific.
3. Dogmatic.

Dogmatism and science are completely antithetical to each other, so viewing science in a dogmatic way (which scientism does) completely defeats the entire purpose of the scientific method which was specifically designed to avoid dogmatism when applied correctly.

Science is aware of the limitations of the scientific method (as taught in science class). Scientism, on the other hand is not… and doesn't take those limits into account in the reasoning process when determining what is true in reality.

This leads to a plethora of logical errors, such as the unwarranted dismissal of untested / untestable claims, the dogmatic blind belief in the current consensus, it leads to Naturalistic extrapolations for whatever the scientific method can't answer, and many many more logical errors from the mis-application of the scientific method.

Honestly, I'd say scientism may be the most damaging philosophy of our time when fully & properly understood and it is what informs the philosophical choice of many atheists.

The problem is so few atheists fully & properly understand it that they conflate science with Scientism, which is precisely what results in the the numerous intellectual errors, some of which I described.

Scientism is, unfortunately, a very widespread philosophy and atheists who adhere to it are almost always unaware they are. The worst part is Scientism is a common philosophy within the scientific community itself, significantly detracting from their credibility overall.

Those who adhere to Scientism typically assume a HIGHER sense of scientific literacy for blindly believing the current consensus, when in reality that means their scientific literacy is LOWER. Science is not a body of knowledge to be blindly believed. It's a METHOD of discovery requiring no faith… including no faith in academia's current consensus.

Science is not absolute, there are many aspect of life that science cannot explain, it is why we have special fields like sociology, art and commerce that will take care of them. This doesn't mean that I believe many religious gods, I am just saying that atheists are as myopic in their views as even many religious people. Atheists are overdependent on the efficacy of science and practically worship it.


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What are the other methods of observing our environment

AbdulMagaji:
Astrologers, are they categorized as scientist too?

They arent

Hashabiah:
Another stupid response that's filled with blatant ignorance. All those advocating for homosexuality are predominantly into the act and are indirectly involved it . Data reports on groups advocating and supporting homosexuality are known to be biased . Take a look at this list

https://www.childwelfare.gov/organizations/?CWIGFunctionsaction=rols:main.dspList&rolType=Custom&RS_ID=146&rList=ROL


You'll see that most of these groups have largely predominant LGBTQ supporters which are currently practicing homosexuality, thus making their findings not only questionable, but outright biased .

UK, US, NZ, Israel etc have presidents, senators, constitutions and parliaments that promote gay marriage and relationships. Going by your mentally retarded analogy, they are all gays then

Hashabiah:
1. Why should I be forced to accept what is contrary to my system of beliefs and idealogy? Isn't that bigotry?

2. Kissing couples has absolutely nothing to do with this discussion and it's a stupid analogy to use in the defense of homosexuality

3. You don't know the differences between christians and muslims , which is why you're fitting them under the same umbrella , which is stupidity of the highest order .

Lastly , homosexuality is a mental disorder and people with such need treatment . To subscribe and condoned their behaviour is simply saying homosexuality is a natural phenomenon that can't be helped.

1. Again, nobody is forcing you to be gay. They are telling you to accept them as humans. Imagine if everyone is allowed to treat his neighbor the way their holy book prescribed. There would be chaos. Muslims would decapitate any Christian they see. I guess that's okay with you.
2. Oh yeah, kissing couples have everything to do with it. Kissing and copulating
3. They are all theists and they believe in supreme beings with a supreme messenger and a holy book. So yes, they have similarities
4. Again, homosexuality isn't a mental disorder. Google up the ICD 10, or the new ICD 11. Its not a disease. We don't manage gays

MaxInDHouse:
YES!
But will you approve a marriage between your son and a lady who can't produce children?

Its their choice

Banilla:
There's no more to add.

Honestly, homosexuality isn't a choice... People who are gay say so and they know best...

Yeah. Even people that claim to have been saved, have the urge once in a while

MaxInDHouse:
The highlighted has proved you wrong!

Here we are talking about creatures that are males or females in totality so back to they question:

How many animals do you know that males do mate with males to reproduce?

This proves you didn't even read my link. Bro, read up and cure this ignorance that is bedevilling you

Aemmyjah:
Mention one gay Animal

Wrong question.
The question you should be asking is which[b] animals aren't gay[/b]
To be honest, I haven't found any

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homosexual_behavior_in_animals
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_animals_displaying_homosexual_behavior

You should have paid attention in biology class instead of those fasting and praying sessions

Aemmyjah:
Tomorrow, if you hear a JW oblige to such obscene act, you'll start talking nonsense
Not just gay, I am not an immoral person

If a JW turns gay, of what business is that to me?

Dtruthspeaker:
Pick anyone. All the score na hunger and starvation you go get las las. Even if you win, olosho go chop am run and you no go make am again till hunger decide to pity you and ki you.

And dat is after homosexuals don rape life comot for your body finish.

Do fasting and praying for Holy Vodka. Gimme odd abeg

Dtruthspeaker:
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Stupid Lunatic cannot identify a baloney and that your very statement is exactly what an Ariaria mad man who failed at school will say. You better go back to Aba market, there is plenty of refuse there for you to eat and sleep in. Stupid Mad ibo Fool!

You're talking as if you didn't sleep at the refuse bin on top Oshodi

2elliot:
If you didn't get it before, now get it. My point was that the Freemasons are behind our current enlightenment and innovation. You can go and verify. From the very earliest inventors and scientists, were freemansons. Even though they try to hide the devil worshipping aspects of it but instead tell us that their cause is noble. They hid their devil worship in codes and gematria, and so only a few can decode. Again, my point is that we shouldn't envy them because they are more enlightened than we are. You may think all of these technologies are wonderful, but there is a purpose far beyond what the ordinary man could see or understand.

And they saved your skin via these innovations. Don't you think that alone is cause for you to worship them, considering your own god hasnt done diddly squat to bring you into this world or save you

2elliot:
QLol. How is my point trashed? Aren't the Freemasons behind enlightenment and innovation?

No. Scientific innovations were rolling in way before Free Masons came into the picture. And they had nothing to do with it. Even if they had, you had shot yourself in the foot cos science made you able to listen to your pastor when he's miles away, science saved your life, and in fact, this rubbish youre typing was enabled by science. All of which you said was enabled by the Free Masons. If its actually true, you should be bowing down and thanking those Masons
Savvy?