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triplechoice:
It's very important because your predominant thoughts which are embedded strongly in your unconscious mind (subconscious) creates your personal reality which then greatly influences the things you say and do.

Unfortunately, most people are only concern with external actions and not fully conscious of how behaviour is controlled from the inside . It's for this reason, they erroneously believe their destiny is set by external circumstances beyond their control.

There's a more detailed explanation in modern cognitive science of how the human brain stores information to control behaviour. Everything is not known yet but at least, the knowledge they have provided at this time, is invaluable for anyone to make use of .

I expected someone like you who claim to be a medical doctor, and a self acclaimed expert scientist who know everything, to have this kind information, but it's obvious you don't. You're not current at all.

And the worst part, is that, without realising it, you have been arguing blindly like a religious fanatic and superstitious person each time you insist destiny is predetermined and cannot change. Just like an ignorant theist who thinks scientific theory means belief or speculation not backed by fact because that's how a dictionary has made him understand it.

If you say destiny is predetermined and cannot change, then the question you should ask yourself is, who, what has set the events that must play out in the future?

Is it your personal god or a flying spaghetti monster?


Are you really thinking of the things you type before you hit the submit button?

Do you even understand the actual reality behind the words you have been using all along to discuss the op?


You don't really understand what destiny means because you don't know how dictionaries compilers do their work and think that every dictionary entry of a word has a description that's enough to make you fully understand it all.

It's very obvious from your comments here that your understanding of destiny is still influenced by what you were taught in Christianity before you became an atheist.

An atheist who believes in predestination? I never seen this before. You're confused.


You need to wean yourself of your past Christian indoctrination before discussing this any further.

If you like focus on finding spellings mistakes in my reply and not the meat of the matter.

I will come back shortly to fully address your pettiness and craziness concerning the mountain you want to make out of a mistake which has happened to everyone here and most especially you. You very much guilty of the same thing . Yours is even worse.

I thought I was engaged in a conversation with an adult .
SHM.

You think you can throw snaky comments and veiled insults at me and get away with it?

I will tell you why you need more of the medications you give to the mad people you claim consult you all the time as it appears they have infected you with their insanity.

How does my thoughts creates 'personal reality'? Explain.

Like I said, one's destiny is predetermined. Its not something you control. If you know what pre-determined mean you won't be saying this.
Which information am I supposed to know? We all know the prefrontal cortex controls behavior and the link with the Limbic System gives it inputs on emotions. Thus your behavior may be controlled by anger, fear etc.
But again, all these have no association with destiny.
Destiny isn't controlled by any being. If you think there is, then you give the name and proof. You know the drill.
If you i am using my theist knowledge to define destiny, then I'll say everyone has a destiny which the devil, demons, bad folks etc, try to steal, and make me miserable.
Of course I don't take such views.
Atheism is a tag. I don't know what the others think. Everything we think has to follow a logical path. And logic says destiny is predetermined.
And one last. I never say I don't make spelling errors. But once I'm corrected, I take it as a lesson, and thank the person correcting me. Simple.
In your case, your arrogance was still disturbing you

PointZerom:
A carnal mind will never understand the things of the spirit.

The man who knelt down knows why he knelt down and the pastor knows why he didn't stop him.
All things works together.

Yeah, I thought so. He might as well suck his dick while he's at it. I guess that would get his attention faster, don't you think

gohf:
you believe they are without proof yet you refuse to believe God 😏😏😏

How is one supposed to prove his Christianity? Is there a Christian-o-meter? We just believe they said so, same way we believe you are. Though we can't say for sure, since there are no meters.
About the belief in god, there is no verifiable evidence of his existence.
Do you see the difference between the 2 notions?

gohf:
nahh, it's all true 😊

Then go ahead. Enjoy yourself

LottiOk:
I really admire the energy, time & patience you have in schooling these psychotic patients of yabaleft on the loose here on NL religious section. Your replies are always logical & straight foward for that anyone including the fruitcake you address can't dispute without sounding more foolish. And even lacing it with sarcasm always makes me not want to miss any of them. Look Jaephonix you,Lordreed,hopefullandlors,Maymann,knownunknown & any other atheists here are my hero's & deserve national awards for how you school the demented fruitcakes here. Infact I wish I could order a full trailer load of chilled hienken with goat meat peppersoup for you guys. I've learnt so much from you guys ever since I stumbled upon NL religious section in 2020. You guys helped me come out from the closer as an Atheist & av never regreted taken such bold step despite d backlash I've faced & still facing. I must admit I'm not as learned or enlightened as you guys are but soon I'll try & contact you guys personally to share more books & knowledge with me. You guys make me so proud to be an Atheist & I wish you guys more success in all your endeavours + more grease to your elbows as you school these cretards that know deep down within them you are making sense but the cognitive disonace they suffer from won't let them admit they are wrong.

Keep up the good work guys & continue to Pepper them with logical reasoning.

Dude thanks, but there's no book for atheism, unfortunately . Just use your 'god-given' brain and process through the loads of information available to you

elated177:
Keep telling yourself that.


Are you sure you are ready for a convo with me?

What convo?

Corrections:
Christians are happy people who are always thankful (grateful ) to God. Scientific evidence suggests that being happy has major benefits for your health. A vast scientific literature has detailed how negative emotions harm the body. Serious, sustained stress or fear can alter biological systems in a way that, over time, adds up to “wear and tear” and, eventually, illnesses such as heart disease, stroke, and diabetes. Chronic anger and anxiety can disrupt cardiac function by changing the heart’s electrical stability, hastening atherosclerosis, and increasing systemic inflammation.

God's words are always green and they can never fade away from one generation to another. God's Word is like water that falls to the ground, it will surely accomplish its task (softening the ground ) before returning to where it came from ( the atmosphere).

Matt. 24:35
“Heaven and earth will pass away, but my words will not pass away.” It is also found in Isaiah 40:8

Therefore, all of God's words are not ordinary, they have a task or purpose to perform in a man's life. Those who listen to them will live.

John 5:25
“And I assure you that the time is coming, indeed it’s here now, when the dead will hear my voice—the voice of the Son of God. And those who listen will live.

Now, the Bible, which contains the word of God, says in the book of 1thessalonians 5:18 ''it says that we should thank God always.

1 Thessalonians 5:18 NLT
“In everything give thanks; for this is God's will for you in Christ Jesus. ”

It is now clearer that the reason why God is giving this command is for our own good. It is evident that sickness has easy access into a man's life that is full of hopelessness. Hopelessness is a feeling or state of despair; lack of hope ( you can not help yourself and nobody can help you ). When you give thanks to God for your challenges, you are simply saying there is hope for you. You are simply saying that there is a supreme being ( God ) who is stronger than you and your challenge and can therefore help you where you can not help yourself. When you have this reality of hope, you become happy emotionally and hopeful. The good news is that when you are happy and hopeful, God through the power of his word, heals your wound and fortifies your body against sickness.

Romans 15:13
I pray that God, who gives hope, will bless you with complete happiness and peace because of your faith. And may the power of the Holy Spirit fill you with hope.

The mission of the devil is to steal, destroy and kill. The devil steals from people. What the Devil can not steal, it simply kills it, and what it can not kill then it destroys. The devil achieves this easily by fighting your ability to be thankful to God ( appreciative ) thereby creating a scenario where it is all about yourself fighting the Devil alone ( a battle you can not win ). The Devil fights and over powers you to a point that you can not help yourself, let alone anybody helping you ( become hopeless ).

It is therefore, very important for the Children of God through our Lord Jesus Christ or Christians to always express their gratitude to God for all He has done, He is doing and will still do. When we do this, we acknowledge that God is our hope, because God is stronger than us and our adversary, the Devil. This enables God to give us hope and happiness, which in return heal our wounds and fortify us against sickness.

Give us groundnut to be eating while listening to your bullshit.
Where did you even pick this up?

elated177:
The witchcraft taught you by your ancestors is one.

I don't think you are ready to engage me in a real discourse, although I have already told you to go your reprobate and degenerate way.

Lol. I dont practice witchcraft. So I don't know what you're talking about

PointZerom:
You don't handle spiritual things with sentiments.

Oh really? How do you handle them?
Whats spiritual about walking on the knee

PointZerom:
Oyedepo never ask them to kneel down or walk on their kneels but they chose to do so for the respect they have for him.

Even to the extent of walking on their knees? Why didn’t he command them to stop it. Or better still tell his orderlies and security details to order anybody kneeling down out. Its because he enjoys it. Stop defending him

Thanksful:
Your ignorance is monumental at the same time amusing

You are too ignorant to survive. You haven't dropped any shred of fact since you jumped into this argument. Just spouting abuses, as if it wins arguments, instead of facts

Thanksful:
Non existent Solomon's temple? So why the conflict in between the Jew and the Islamic world in Israel.

A lot of illiterates are on this app.

Try and travel fess

The cause of the conflict is because the Israelis and the Arabs over Jerusalem.
It is not about Solomon's temple

Thanksful:
You sound more illiterate. That's the point. Everyone has been waiting for them to discredit th bible for more that a thousand century. The point is they haven't been able to discredit it due to fact available to them which they have been trying to suppress but your level of illiteracy can't allow you see

I don't really understand your point.
You said I should go to Israel. You probably thought Jesus tomb or some other assumed relics would be found there. Unfortunately they aint there. The Judaists there would even tell you Jesus was a regular dude and wasn't a god. You want them to discredit the Bible? Lol. Lemme ask you. Have you seen the Dannish or English countries coming out to discredit Snow White and some other stories that supposedly happened there? Have you seen Saudi Arabia government coming out to discredit the story of Aladdin? Hell no. They are assumed fairy tales, and nobody has the time to roll out press releases on them. Its you cretards that take the Bible serious that hold on to these myths

Dtruthspeaker:
I am here waiting to see if you would have something intelligent to say but as I said, you have nothing. Loser!

"There is no valid argument against the Truth.". Loser even if you devote your whole life time looking for a counter, you still would die the loser because there is no valid argument against the Truth Loser

No problem.
Whenever you can rephrase that gibberish, we can continue the debate

judedwriter:
Are you calling the Bible a fairy tale??

Anyways. You are free to choose your path, no be by force to go heaven.

It is actually.
There's no evidence outside the Bible that it happened

judedwriter:
Read the story of Esau and Jacob.

Many people use others destinies like tissues paper this evil days.

Erm, are you sure you wanna use a fairytale as an example, kind sire?

triplechoice:
It's typo ,Mr English teacher. You don't expect me not to know how to spell the word, knee.
I have something to do now. I would respond to your number 2 later.

Lol bro. Nigerians think a lot themselves. Many of my patients call it kneel, and I correct them all the time. And I bet this particular one isn't a typo but you can't bring yourself to agree. I also bet you are amongst those that point to the bone in your back and call it spinal cord. Please take your L in peace

Dtruthspeaker:
If there was something wrong with what I said, you would have pointed to out since but because there is none, you forming "you don't understand" thinking that by wasting time, you would have something intelligent to say.

But nothing shall come because "There is no valid argument against the Truth".

Lol. You drop some gibberish and expect something magical to pop out from there. Or when your opponent cannot make head or tail of the gibberish, you declare yourself winner and run off.
Its a regular antic of yours we are used to.
If you think that post makes sense, rephrase… it

Dtruthspeaker:
Atheist never play fair. You should expect them to lie and cheat and change of post and insult when you corner them.

All the threads that your illiteracy was exposed and you ran away are there to be seen. Go there and reply them

Thanksful:
I thought you were looking for a prove to some bible facts? Omo! Your challenge is more than we thought earlier

… and my reply showed you that the people you think would corroborate the Bible facts, would in fact, discredit it.
Your problem is illiteracy

Thanksful:
Travel to Israel if you want to be informed.

Lol. Dude Christianity is a minority religion in Israel. In fact there's more Muslims than Christians there. Lol.
And Judaism, the major religion there, regard Christians as sell-outs or stupid.
So talk another lie

Dtruthspeaker:
Wow! I can't believe you can not comprehend this simple everyday thing.

Does that thing you wrote mean anything to you? If it means something to you, then rephrase

triplechoice:
Lol. A kneel jerk reaction from you.

Everything that has been achieved or created by anyone in this world first began as an idea, thought, in the head of an individual before steps were taken to bring it to fruition.
Hope you understand me better now

1. It's knee jerk, not kneel jerk
2. So what if every action was first an idea. How is it of importance to personal destinies?

Dtruthspeaker:
It is established in advance that you should eat to live if not you must enter into the second it is established in advance that if you do not eat, you would DIE!

It's as simple as that!

What the fuq did you write here? Does it make sense to you?

Dtruthspeaker:
Stupidoo, that is why you have no other thing to say than to say something stupid.

This world is a predetermined one and we move from one predetermined thing to another predetermined thing. Eg you don't eat, you die and don't eat eat again. You eat then you keep on living to eat again.

Please don't say anything to me for you have long since exhausted your intelligent bundle subscription.

What is the meaning of predetermined?

predetermined
/ˌpriːdɪˈtəːmɪnd/
Learn to pronounce
adjective
established or decided in advance.
"a predetermined level of spending

So bro, predetermined means ones destiny is established in advance. It doesn't change or 'diminish' or get 'stolen' like your psychotic pastors tell you

triplechoice:
One's destiny is the result of the thoughts and beliefs one hold on strongly to.

Wtf?
So if I dream and think like Elon Musk, I end up like him?
Is there something wrong with the water in Nigeria?

Proof?

LordReed:
Projects that show that the Bible is full of myth, legend and wishful thinking? If you can, show us the artifacts that have been recovered from the Red Sea or the ones from the Dead Sea or the ones from the 40year pilgrimage in the Sinai desert or the ones from the Jericho wall or the ones from King Solomon's beautiful temple.

He'll tell you to get your own PhD so you'll understand.
The people of Jericho were said to have been utterly wiped out by the Israelites. But descendants of Jericho are currently alive now.
Bundles of lies

Dtruthspeaker:
Please, try and stay intelligent. You already know that I do not have patience for unintelligent people.

If she did not Bleep, then she has and retained her pre - not bleeped destiny, like a person who did not put his hands in fire.

But since she chose to Bleep and be bleeped, then she also gets the preset destiny of the bleeped like the guy who puts his hand in the fire and gets burned.

Either way, both are already predetermined and preset.

Oh Unintelligent One, destiny is predetermined . Its not changed

Dtruthspeaker:
Now you see that even a dictionary can be wrong and deceive you.

Wikipedia
https://en.m.wikipedia.org › wiki
Destiny
Destiny, sometimes referred to as fate (from Latin fatum "decree, prediction, destiny, fate", is a predetermined course of events.

The word is determined course of events.

https://www.nairaland.com/7571594/teenager-buries-newborn-baby-alive#120953325

If she did not fuq, she would not be here. And now where she used to live in her father's house, her destination has now changed to prison and the men who fuqd her and who she fuqd are the ones who have changed and stolen her former destiny.

Also, when those men are caught then we would see that their own destiny too has changed for they too are going to prison.

Do you understand what 'predetermined course of events' mean? In the context of your story, it means the girl was destined to fuq them and those men(if they were caught) are destined for jail or whatever incarcerations are due.
There was no change of destiny. Its already predetermined

Dtruthspeaker:
No one can explain anything to a stupid filthy fool!

Ok

Dtruthspeaker:
As its name says, It means destination.

Good.

And this is the dictionary meaning


destiny
/ˈdɛstɪni/
Learn to pronounce
noun
the events that will necessarily happen to a particular person or thing in the future

That means no matter what you do, its still your destiny. If my destiny is to die this morning, even if I like let me hide inside a room locked up, I'll still die. Earthquake fit happen come kill me.
So if someone marries a bad wife, or wastes his time in a church(like depicted), its still his destiny, nobody took anything.
If my destiny is to be very poor, then I can't help it.
And one more thing, not everyone is destined to be rich, like your psycho pastors tell you. They even say rich men harvest 'destinies' from poor folks. Some of them even call it 'star'. I mean, how? How can Ned Nwoko steal the destiny of Portable?
Are you guys mentally unstable?