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OkCornel:
When Yahweh executes judgment and justice he's blood thirsty.
When Yahweh does nothing, he's weak and powerless (you didn't say this, but I've seen this thought process countless times on this forum).

Smh.

He kills folks for letting the ark slip an inch, didn't he. He killed a man for doing coitus interruptus. He killed children who called Elijah bald. He killed folks that work on sabbath etc
What kind of justifications do you have for these actions?

OkCornel:
Smh, we've got folks running around with the understanding the God of the Old Testament was blood thirsty.

Same set of people believe in justice. Quite contradictory isn't it?

1. They blame God for killing the first born of the Egyptians, but say nothing about the Hebrew male babies thrown into the Nile to feed the crocodiles.

2. They are quick to blame God for instructing Saul to kill off the Amalekites yet, they forget these same Amalekites almost wiped out a defenseless Israel that just cross the red sea.

I can go on and on with biblical and historical accounts. It's a shame people see one side of the coin and cry foul.

What a weak ass defense of yahweh's cruelty.
So he asked the israelites to retaliate in the OT but the same yahweh 'declared turn the other cheek when slapped' in the NT.
Let’s consider three categories of Old Testament texts that are morally problematic:
the “crimes” for which God prescribes the death penalty,God’s anger and wrath in punishing his people, and God’s command to the Israelites to commit genocide.
The death penalty. There are numerous “crimes” for which God, through the Law of Moses, requires the death penalty. Among these are sacrificing to a god other than Yahweh (Exodus 22:20), persistent rebelliousness on the part of a child (Deuteronomy 21:18–21), a child who hits or curses his or her parents (Exodus 21:15 and 17), working on the Sabbath (Exodus 35:2), premarital sexual intercourse (Deuteronomy 22:13–21), and the requirement for a priest to burn his daughter alive if she became a prostitute (Leviticus 21:9).

God’s anger and wrath. In the Old Testament, God’s anger repeatedly burns against his people for their disobedience. At times, the punishment he dispenses seems particularly harsh, unjust, and disproportionate. Let’s consider just one example.

In 2 Samuel 24, we find that King David decided to take a census of the men of fighting age. The prophet Gad was sent to David to announce God’s displeasure with the taking of the census. The punishment for David’s sin: “The Lord sent a pestilence on Israel from that morning until the appointed time; and seventy thousand of the people died” (2 Samuel 24:15). David makes a decision that does not please God, and God kills 70,000 Israelites for it? How could this action ever be reconciled with a God of mercy, compassion, justice, and love?

Genocide in the name of God. I’ll mention one last category of scriptures related to the violence of God: those that describe the conquest of Canaan. At the time the Israelites entered the land to conquer it, Canaan was populated with small city-states or kingdoms made up of various ethnic groups speaking similar languages. God promised Israel that he would give them this land, but to do so these people had to be displaced.

This is problematic enough, but God wasn’t asking the Israelites to forcibly relocate them to other lands. God instructed the Israelites to kill every man, woman, and child among these Canaanites. In Deuteronomy 20:16–18, Moses gives these instructions: “As for the towns of these peoples that the Lord your God is giving you as an inheritance, you must not let anything that breathes remain alive. You shall annihilate them—the Hittites and the Amorites, the Canaanites and the Perizzites, the Hivites and the Jebusites—just as the Lord your God has commanded.”

The Hebrew word for “annihilate” has as its root herem (also transliterated as cherem or sometimes charam). The classic Brown-Driver-Briggs Hebrew and English Lexicon notes the meaning of the word in English is “to exterminate.” It also has the sense of devoting something to God by completely destroying it. This is sometimes translated as “ban”—a word that in this context means “given to God by complete destruction.”

In Joshua 6:20b–21, you can read about what this looked like as the Israelite army entered the town of Jericho: the Israelites “charged straight ahead into the city and captured it. Then they devoted to destruction by the edge of the sword all in the city, both men and women, young and old, oxen, sheep, and donkeys.” After the destruction of Jericho, next would come the people of Ai, then the people of Makkedah and Libnah and Lachish and Eglon and Debir—every man, woman, and child slaughtered and dedicated to God. In the end, the entire population of thirty-one city-states was utterly destroyed.

I suspect that most people who read the Bible either don’t think about this, gloss over these sections, or skip them altogether. I was fourteen years old when I first read the Book of Joshua. The stories didn’t trouble me at that time. They were epic battles with great story lines and heroic figures. Who doesn’t enjoy reading about how the walls of Jericho “came tumbling down”? Behind each story was the idea that God was fighting on behalf of his people. I suspect that’s how most people read these stories today.
Are the above actions of israelites retaliatory? No! So your defense is so weak, it can't form a smoke

terrezo2002:
Do you need approval for you to be accepted?

I asked you a question. Simple and clear. And its a yes or no answer. So please oblige me

Maynman:
They were trying to push an agenda, they had to be careful and do lovey dovey.

Yeah
Unfortunately it was too obvious to every human with a brain(except of course the mentally inept chrestus folks)

terrezo2002:
Good for you

Do you believe me or not?

Maynman:
Yahweh has nothing to do with the New Testament.

No wonder there wasn't wanton bloodshed in the NT

terrezo2002:
Joseph wanted to put Mary away when he knew she was pregnant, but the angel of God visited him and warned not to do so for she was conceived by the Holy ghost.

If I was in Joseph's shoes, I may have acted same way too

Good.
I am a flying man. Yahweh sent me to fly to your house this morning. Check the roof

terrezo2002:
So you think, but what you call fallacies are actually the truth

Lol. Whatever makes you sleep at night

Tboy222:


They are worst atheists than you are who are great servants of God now,time will fail me to mention them check out Jim Woodford a former atheist and pilot on his story of 11 hours in Heaven, check out Brian Melvin too and don't forget Ivan turtle too, their testimonies would tell you of the love of Jesus Christ that is beyond comprehension and surpasses all understanding.

Jim Woodford wasn't an atheist. Wasn't even agnostic. He said "I didn't consider myself religious".

Tboy222:


Yes you can, Jim Woodford ,Brian Melvin were atheists too check out their testimonies on youtube if they can ,you can too you cannot go too far from Jesus Christ, check out Randy Kay ministries on youtube to watch mind blowing testimonies.Jesus Christ bless you as you do.

Bro, that Youtube video was a wild goose chase. I looked up Jim Woodford and he says he wasn't religious. He didn't say he was agnostic. And I don't find anything interesting there apart from the regular NDE (Near Death Experience) garbage spewed not just by christians but other religions. And each have their own ideas of heaven and hell. So whose should I believe and why?

Tboy222:


No those were not pastors,those were individuals just like me and you,who suffered rejection from parents, some thought Jesus was hocus pocus a scare tactics used to control the masses, to put people in check abused,had it rough ,hated themselves,some commuted suicide,some were killed,some overdosed were declared clinically dead,saw what lies beyond and we're completely blown away,life is bigger than what you think it is.

I dare you watch those videos and you will be completely blown away,give it a try and you will be glad you did,Jesus Christ is the best thing that ever happened to man.

Re-read my question and look at your answer. Do they match?
Lemme rephrase. If I wanted to know if a man is a criminal, would I ask his wife and children?
Your youtube videos are just another lie-mongering videos littered all over youtube. Nothing I haven't heard before

waldigit:
There's no flaw with God. Only he is a dispensational being. There is time for every purpose and purpose for everything with Him. Each program is implented at it's target time, then He moves on to the next. But the nature of men is resistance to change that's where we have problem comprehending God.

So why was yahweh all very violent in the old testament and then suddenly nice and caring in the new? Isnt he the 'Unchanheable Changer'?

Tboy222:


Any atheist who does not believe in Christ Jesus should go on YouTube and search for this two youtube channels

Randy Kay ministries (youtube)
Prophetic dreamer (YouTube)

Kindly subscribe watch the interviews and you will see that Jesus Christ and Hell is no joke.

Wait a minute. So the evidence for the evidence of Jesus Christ and veracity of the bible lies in the hands of pastors? Really? Just like a muslim telling you to check for the truthfulness of islam at their iman's verses. Of course they'll tell you all sorts of stories without any evidence.
We need evidence, not hearsays and anecdotes

Dtruthspeaker:
Nature and History has already proven it true and the recent coming to pass of its prophecy of hardness of buying and selling also proves it is True.

1. How did nature prove the bible?
2.
a) Where did the bible prophesy about 'hardness of buying'?
b) And did it say the 'hardness of buying' would be specific to Nigeria (as is the case)?

terrezo2002:
Many atheists were never really born again not to talk of recieving the Holy ghost. They only identified with Christians. They have no Christian experiences because of their faithlessness. Instead of them to increase their faith, they sheepishly bow out and regard themselves as atheists.

Youre chock full of fallacies.
Now this one is No True Scotsman.
You'll do well to practice logical reasoning. Its not illegal yet in Nigeria, you know

Dtruthspeaker:
That is what people say just before the wheeping starts.

… and 6 hours later, I aint weeping. Is your yahweh afraid of wimpy mortals like moi?

terrezo2002:
God who created man and woman can also put baby in the womb of a woman without sexual intercourse

So if your gf tells you she's pregnant and she's a virgin, please believe her, don't come running to Nairaland to create a pity or cry baby thread

HISSCRIBE1995:
When you wake up from this
Then you would realize it like a dream
And almost less than a dream .

You will call it vapor
But yet it would seem less than a vapor
Then the new
The reality you wake into
You will call real ,even though now it's less than nothing .

Can you explain this, sire?

HeavenBreed:
For many of us, faith is a central part of our lives. We turn to God for strength and guidance in difficult times and we find comfort in His presence. But who is God, really? And how do we find Him? Is God in heaven?

These are big questions, and there is no easy answer. But the journey to a deeper faith is worth taking, and it’s different for everyone. There’s no one right way to find God.

A figment of fiction

Jackanda1:
Were you a nominal Christian or were you born again and serious with church before becoming agnostic?

I was born again with all the bells and whistles that come with 'born again-ism' like speaking in tongues, seeing in the spirits
When you see the truth, you realize its all bullshit

Jackanda1:
Anytime i post against atheism, you get really worked up. I wonder whose servant you really are?

Why do you get worked up about atheism in the first instance?

Dtruthspeaker:
Atheists can never be accepted by The Lord.

It takes a lot to be an atheist and once a person gets there, it is game over for that person.

Oh, I'm shaking in fear of the lords wrath

Techobeys:
In today’s video on TECH, we explained what the gospel is and also explain who first received the gospel and what that person did with it. We also talked about the origin of unbelief and who is the first unbeliever.
Kindly watch and share to bring the light of the truth to the world.
https://youtube.com/shorts/w9l_AV-iZfY?feature=share

Just watched this clip. Who preached the gospel to Adam?

Techobeys:
I don’t like disbeliever. I did a video session that you refused to watch but someone assume I’m a Christian that just believes?

You have to watch my videos then you’ll know if I’m a scholar or a person who just believes.

It’s not sound to refuse to accommodate a beliefs bc of your own biases. That’s not an element of intelligence or rational thinking. Go on my channel, subscribe if possible and watch my videos, then you’ll see whether I just believe or I have done my work to know the truth accurately.

Post a link here. Lemme put 5 mins there. It better be good

Techobeys:
It’s not an history but an article. Anyone can write it. It’s usually unsound for people born 2000 years afterwards to be telling me the history of what happened 2000 years ago

If believe 'anyone can write it', why do you think anyone can't write the bible?

tianshie:
I don't know if this is the right place to post this terrifying experience. I travelled home (to Nigeria) last month. My cousins told me mermaids had been spotted at the village stream (iyi) numerous times, and the elders had decided people should stop going to the stream. They were literally shaking. I laughed in their faces. Mermaids? Were they sure? I told them off for being idiots and they shook their heads,

On December 24th we were supposed to go watch football. After I waited for them in front of our compound, I thought perhaps they had gone to the stream. I began walking there. As I approached I heard the sound of voices, like people jumping in the water and shouting for joy. I said to myself, "See these boys oh. So na here dem come to enjoy with their babes."

When I emerged on the water, my head began to swell. I mean literally. I saw a woman with reddish skin lying on her back on the bank, her legs raised. A good looking man with a band of cowries around his wrist was on top of her moving his hips powerfully between her thighs. They saw me. Stopped. They looked at me. I just stood there as if a giant hand pressed me to the spot.

Then they slipped quietly into the water, and submerged themselves, completely disappeared. I'm not ashamed to say I ran from that place screaming like a girl.

Some people have suggested I go for cleansing. But apart from some nightmares, I feel okay.

But damn! It's the most bizarre experience of my life!!!!!!

Anyone have a similar experience?

When did you start smoking crack

Is the bible fiction or true

Does this mean you are swimming in good luck?

I don't fear them

terrezo2002:
God cures all kinds of diseases. Science just means discovering things created by God. Without creations, there is no science.

1. Another random wild claim from you. It has become your trademark, so I wont bother asking you for evidence or data. I have been in practice many years, yet your god has refused to cure any disease I have managed.
2. And I won't bother asking you about the source of creations

Dtruthspeaker:
And another set of incurable diseases with new sets of hard to pronounce names or even variation of old diseases still rolling out in their place. And aluta continua!

And nothing new in the end and medicine/ science never really catching up but always playing catch me if you can.

And God still unseeable and unassailable.

Medical science is always hindered by many microbes, both viral and otherwise. It has been there since time immemorial and won't stop even after we're gone. And they would become insusceptible to antiviral and antibacterial agents, thus newer anti-infective agents would be made to counter the newer forms of those viruses/bacteria/fungi/protozoa. Its a cycle that would continue. We used chloroquine to treat malaria years ago. Now due to abuse, the protozoa is resistant to it. Then we started Artemether combination therapies. Right now, there's now resistance. So now, to battle malaria, we use all types of drug cocktails.

What is the import of the bolded sentence on this discourse?

LordReed:
Wow, if what I heard that viruses don't get cured is true then this is a total paradigm shift. In any case I salute those tireless researchers on the forefront of these kinds of breakthroughs and the ones involved in this in particular. I hope I live long enough to see more of these incurable diseases getting trounced.

Most viral diseases are actually self-limiting and are harmless. Even your Covid is self-limiting and would burn itself out in days. Only exception is people with immunocompromised states like diabetes, HIV, those on steroid use etc.
Few viruses are deadly and that is cos of their ability to mutate quickly to resistant forms. HIV is a prime example. With this breakthrough, it'll be a thing of the past. Plus there is HIV vax in the works. Mosquito vax is already shipping to many countries.
So soon stem cell therapies would be commercialized and even be available in Nigeria, maybe from next year