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DeepSight:
This is too funny for me to properly respond to. I can only say that the fact that one believes in the existence of a soul does not mean that one subscribes to voodoo or magic. I will also plead with you not to absurdify the discussion. Because there is nothing wrong in saying that there are certain requirements for a body which a soul can inhabit, just as surely as there are certain requirements for the sort of computer hardware that the software can operate in. You are virtually asking why computer software cannot operate on a bare piece of plastic or wood.



This is my personal perception. Just as the software which may be required to operate a small machine like a Gameboy will be different from that required to operate Deep Blue or a Space Mission. In the same way, the intangible software of an ant is unlikely to be of the same cadre as that of a man. Again, just my personal perception.



You dont see your hand, for example, as a part of your inner personality. It is a tool, and you know it.



Frankly, I dont even think it is possible to conceive of one existing at all without the fundamental inner aspect of being.
Without that, everything physical would at once be meaningless.



You would address it as "me" or "I".
But there is a sense of ownership over it by your inward mind, and thus you will see it as "yours" - - - you will address it as "my" body.

That is the summary of all: Your personal conviction, without a shred of evidence

A001:
There are upper and lower limits of the range of light wave frequencies the human eyes can see, and also, there are upper and lower limits of the range of sound wave frequencies the human ears can hear.

These are natural limits.

Much is happening in our immediate surroundings we're unaware of.

How do you know all this

A001:
Yes. Reality is multidimensional (not just four dimensional) existing in layers just like an onion has layers. The soul is the innermost layer or the core of a living being with the outermost layer (the body) a mere projection of the soul.

Applying the concept of wave-particle duality to a human (as an example of matter), the soul is a distinct kind of wave or radiation that vibrates at a specific range of frequencies in higher dimensions with the body (particle) its spatio-temporal (4D) component or projection.

The soul exists, but it's one of the vast amount of things that are filtered out by our sense organs from our perception. Thus, we're only aware of minute aspects out of the vast amount of information (data) in our surroundings.

Due to these natural limits, there are many waves (such as the soul), particles, and radiations in our immediate surroundings we can't see or hear.

Bullshit

MaxInDHouse:
Well you're welcome to the world of true faith in Christ Jesus:

Since you're claiming an atheist no JW will call you Devil or Satan because Satan believe in the existence of God {James 2:19} what Satan detests is for intelligent beings agreeing to take orders heartily from another intelligent being when each person can actually do whatever pleases him. Genesis 3:4-5

So it's wrong as in unscriptural referring to an atheist as Satan or Devil, you've declared openly that you don't believe in the existence of God, the agents of Satan do acknowledge the existence of God publicly but within their hearts they don't agree that someone somewhere should give them orders without forcing them. Psalms 14:1

Where is Satan?

MaxInDHouse:
This will be the second time you will assume i said something instead of careful observation of what i typed.

The other time you said i used to call atheists Devils and Satan up till now you can't prove it just as i told you that you often assume Max said something simply because you're carried away with what churchgoers do say about atheists.

Now you said i told you JWs are perfect?

Haba! Please try to be much more careful when talking about me i am not a churchgoer and i've always told you my God differs from what the churchgoers are worshiping.

I am Maximus one of Jehovah's Witnesses!

I don't have the time to surf through your posts, but one day, you would make these comments again, and I'll catch you. Dey play

terrezo2002:
We all know how cars, aeroplanes came about. They were created. Same way humans are created too. If you don't believe this, it is your choice.
Quoting me about for what I share doesn't change my belief.

The process of car, aeroplane production are well documented and there are no guess works or duplicity involved. Is the process of human creation well documented without duplicity and falsehoods? No

MaxInDHouse:
This is why i always told you not to rely so much on the definition that's not reliable, the man called CHRIST is Jesus of Nazareth so it's those PRACTICING what he taught that you can rightly call CHRISTIANS not people claiming so!

Then such a person is not a true followers of the man who said:

“You heard that it was said: ‘You must love your neighbor and hate your enemy.’ However, I say to you: Continue to love your enemies and to pray for those who persecute you" Matthew 5:43-44

“Look! I am sending you out as sheep among wolves; so prove yourselves cautious as serpents and yet harmless as doves" Matthew 10:16

“Return your sword to its place, for all those who take up the sword will perish by the sword" Matthew 26:52

Some JW folks have done terrible stuff. Weren't they following Jehovah?

IslamIsIdiotic:
Stay away from weed

He could be on something worse than weed

MaxInDHouse:
I never told you so in fact that's why you keep accusing me of child molestation because i told you it happens everywhere.

The problem you have with me is that you're so much touched with my comments that you can't decipher how a religious person could be so articulate in his reasoning.
I always told you that no one is perfect!

Max, Max
If this JW stunt doesn't pay you, try comedy. You fit it like a glove

sukkot:
i am an illuminated spiritual scientist . An ascended master

Look at the post

ChineseBalloon:
Ascended master
There's nothing I won't see on NL

Seriously. That's what the nigga said

terrezo2002:
You should have asked me why the cars, aeroplanes are not self existing

You started it. Throwing around fallacies aint gonna help you. I know theists love this particular Special Pleading flavor

MaxInDHouse:
You don't have to be worried because real Christians don't vote nor participate in politics, we mustn't be part of people using weapons to intimidate or force others to do what is right. Matthew 26:52
In true Christianity everything we do is based on mutual agreement on rules that all of us subject ourselves to as we believe it's from the supreme being.
So if anyone among us after accepting decides he's no longer OK with it we stay away from them let them relate with those who aren't subjected to our rules, if you don't know our rules we deal with you as our normal neighbour whom we must love as ourselves.

Well, imagine someone like you, comes up and decides to slaughter all non-christians

Janosky:
Your last sentence,Oga you can't be too certain about my personal deductions in that period of time.
I might just be the Galileo Galilei of that era.[/b]

Well, maybe. But you certainly aren't the Galileo of this era. Far from it

Janosky:
No, you misunderstood the point I'm driving at.


None of Jehovah's servants are perfect, that's the point.
Remember that king David was close to God.
But his sin against God & Uriah was very grievous & the repercussions resonated far beyond his lifetime.

Do you now understand what I mean?

I understand. Max keeps on painting a picture of perfect folks

TenQ:
Dont act dumb.

Chemical reagents don't carry information ?

Information is data encapsulated logic.

Ok. Where does the information come from

TenQ:
The fact that it is an Enigma that disobey natural laws make it a miracle

Great. Who made the miracle?

TenQ:
Information come from replication!?

DNA comes from replication

MaxInDHouse:
Few decades ago a child was born and he grew up to be one of Jehovah's Witnesses but this child chose to be more active in the preaching and teaching campaign of God's Kingdom like the first century Jewish disciples of Christ so he enrolled as a pioneer (group name given to JWs who are more active in the ministry)
As a child he had an accident that left one of his legs deformed so he grew up with a form of bow leg that's not normal making him walk with difficulty.
He continued serving as a regular pioneer for many years preaching zealously, industriously teaching and making more disciples for the Lord then he had another accident that supposed to condemn his legs completely!

That faithful day he was with the other Witnesses leading as the captain (any brother that will direct the preaching work on a specific date) then suddenly a vehicle lost its control and as the driver was struggling to get it off the road it went straight to where the JWs were standing waiting to pair themselves as we usually does after our house to house field ministry (after the knocking on doors preaching we also return to those that welcome our visits in the past to continue teaching them)

There was a big gutter and a covet beside the road so everyone jumped over to the safer side leaving our brother who can't jump then the speedy vehicle headed straight to him until the car hit our brother and threw him into the empty gutter. Everyone screamed concluding that brother's legs has been condemned only to find him begging them to lift him out of the deep but empty gutter. His bag filled with books and magazines is what he handed over to them first then he was lifted out but instead of our brother's leg to be damaged or condemned as everyone expected both legs became fit as if a surgery happened.
Then he took his bag and said "the gutter was empty and i never sustained any injury, so lets continue" but this time around he walked like a normal human unlike his former condition so everyone was amazed!
That was how they all returned home from there to spread the news.

Well from my own understanding that was a miracle but was the power given to anyone?

The answer is NO!
JEHOVAH only used His Holy Spirit to heal His child who is ready to do His will!

Hallelujah.
Max, what's the name of this cute movie?

MightySparrow:
Yes, what is your take?

Apologies. Thought you are a Christian

DeepSight:
Souls emanate from that primordial living substance which is at the root of reality.

Also known as Bullshit

MaxInDHouse:
There is just one thing wrong with atheism: man wasn't created to direct his own steps {Jeremiah 10:23} so we need the uncommon sense from our Creator to know how we can cohabit peacefully with our neighbours.

As for wickedness it stems from a greedy heart and most people don't just like being evil it's our circumstances and conditions that leads us into temptation to do evil!

The title "GOD" connotes "SUPREME BEING" as human being we need a supreme counselor who will direct us to benefit ourselves {Isaiah 48:17-18} it's normal to object to this but then we mustn't think of setting up standards for our fellow human because none of us is supreme.

This is where the problem lies:
It's unnatural for any normal human to isolate himself from others that's why you will notice that those claiming atheists can't just walk away despite advocating independent thinking they're still worried over what others believe.
So even though you're not a threat to their life an atheist will always want to argue with you over your beliefs.
WHY?
God never create us to live without having to do with our fellow humans as BELIEVERS in the same line of thought!

I'm worried because some Christian nutjob like you can be president tomorrow and order all atheists killed, or force us to pray every minute

gohf:
May God hell you

Why, my guy. From 'help me' to 'hell me'.
Lol. Fatwa Envy in play here

gohf:
May God help you

Hehehehehe. Bro, u don't have anything to say. Are you dumbfounded?

Jashub:
Divide Mao and Stalins death counts...God's own wouldn't reach half of it.


Now I understand why there is so much hatred for anything communist (atheist )

Bro, we're talking about the whole damn world here. C'mon be honest for once

gohf:
May God help you

Lol. My guy don shut up

Jashub:
You're just ignorant. Have you bothered reading the Qur'an?

If you had you'd have seen that what Muhammad taught his followers(muslims) was completely different and opposite of what Jesus taught his followers (christians ).

See the following verses muslims still use to commit atrocities:

The Quran’s Sura 5:33 says about infidels, “They shall be slain or crucified, or have their hands and feet cut off.”


Sura 9:5 says, “Slay the infidels wherever you find them ... and lie in wait for them ... and establish every stratagem (of war against them).”


Sura 47:4-9 promises paradise to whoever cuts off the head of an infidel.


Compare that to Jesus who said :




But I say to you, love your enemies, bless those who curse you, do good to those who hate you, and pray for those who spitefully use you and persecute you,(Matt 5:4)


To him who strikes you on the one cheek, offer the other also. And from him who takes away your cloak, do not withhold your tunic either.(Luke 6:29)


These are completely two different religions with completely different idealogies.


2. Yes, God commanded Israel to exterminate all the cannanites tribes dwelling in Cannan , and the reasons for that was because they were knee-deep in child sacrificing and all sorts of abominations. But before doing that, God had specifically commanded Israel to first make an offering of peace to any cannanite tribe willing to make peace (Deut20:10-11)


Lastly , Jesus never commanded anyone to fight wars on his behalf through crusades, slave trade and conquest. So stop blaming Jesus for badly-behaved Christians


P.S : Atheism has killed more people than the crusades. Just look up Mao and Stalin and see how they annihilate more than 8 million of their own people, just to prove that there is no God . Sick

1. Your Yahweh specifically instructed the Israelites to slaughter everything that moves in the cities of Amalek, Canaan, Jericho, Canaanites, Perizzites, Jebusites and others etc. Everything. Even babies. Same babies you claimed they were sacrificing to their gods, is the same your Yahweh instructed the Israelites to murder. He even got angry when the Israelites kept some of the people alive, he wanted them dead
And no, Yahweh specifically didn't ask the Israelites to offer peace to those people.
Summary of yahweh's lovely touch in the old testament
1. The Flood (Genesis 6-
2. The cities of the plain, including Sodom and Gomorrah (Genesis 18-19)
3. The Egyptian firstborn sons during the Passover (Exodus 11-12)
4. The Canaanites under Moses and Joshua (Numbers 21:2-3; Deuteronomy 20:17; Joshua 6:17, 21)
5. The Amalekites annihilated by Saul (1 Samuel 15)
Let’s consider three categories of Old Testament texts that are morally problematic:

the “crimes” for which God prescribes the death penalty,
God’s anger and wrath in punishing his people, and
God’s command to the Israelites to commit genocide.
The death penalty. There are numerous “crimes” for which God, through the Law of Moses, requires the death penalty. Among these are sacrificing to a god other than Yahweh (Exodus 22:20), persistent rebelliousness on the part of a child (Deuteronomy 21:18–21), a child who hits or curses his or her parents (Exodus 21:15 and 17), working on the Sabbath (Exodus 35:2), premarital sexual intercourse (Deuteronomy 22:13–21), and the requirement for a priest to burn his daughter alive if she became a prostitute (Leviticus 21:9).

God’s anger and wrath. In the Old Testament, God’s anger repeatedly burns against his people for their disobedience. At times, the punishment he dispenses seems particularly harsh, unjust, and disproportionate. Let’s consider just one example.

In 2 Samuel 24, we find that King David decided to take a census of the men of fighting age. The prophet Gad was sent to David to announce God’s displeasure with the taking of the census. The punishment for David’s sin: “The Lord sent a pestilence on Israel from that morning until the appointed time; and seventy thousand of the people died” (2 Samuel 24:15). David makes a decision that does not please God, and God kills 70,000 Israelites for it? How could this action ever be reconciled with a God of mercy, compassion, justice, and love?

Oh, What a loving god

The peaceful demeanor only started in the new testament, and it was by Jesus, not by Yahweh. And if you say both are the same, then you insinuate Yahweh is schizophrenic

P.S. Christianity alone(not counting other religions) have killed more. From Hitler, the Crusades, Witch trials in Europe and America, Huguenot Wars, The Inquisition etc has killed more than Mao and Stalin

terrezo2002:
May your eyes and brain be opened in Jesus name

You never see anything

Maynman:
Bwaahahah, ordinary jehovah the israelite god?

IsraEL was given to yahweh by his father, EL.

Ah, Maynmann has joined the fray. Terrezo youre in deep shit. Just deactivate your account now

terrezo2002:
Jehovah is self existing eternal God. Humans were created by Him.

So if he's self existing, why can't the world be self existing too?

AnyanwuSilas:
You go around making claims you can't prove, what's the meaning of electromagnetic frequency? Spiritual scientist my foot, you should provide extraordinary evidence when you make extraordinary claim.

We have been asking the fraud to present his evidence here and other threads, but dude said he's an 'ascended master'. So we left him alone. He's either a fruitcake like many here, or he's just catching cruise

sukkot:
you made that man delete his account . why do you people just harras innocent souls for nothing ? you ought to be ashamed of yourself

Wetin I do? Dude said he's my shrink, I asked for his certs