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Also the catholic church has accepted evolution as a concept, after realizing creationism is a lie? Though they are having problems marrying the two concepts

terrezo2002:
The fact that the person who proposed the big bang theory is a Catholic doesn't mean Catholic church accepted it.
Or have you heard any Catholic preaching it anywhere in their church?

Did you read the part the then Pope accepted it into the church? Or you developed acute visual loss during the part of that text?

terrezo2002:
Revelation 13:16-17 And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads:
And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name.

In Nigeria currently, people are groaning because there is no cash to withdraw. This has caused a lot of pains and trauma to Nigerians. Now imagine if you are not able to buy or sell anything unless you are given a devilish mark.
This time is coming soon to the whole world. It is the time of the antichrist. It is a time of great distress and great tribulations such as never been since the world was created.
It is good you don't take part of it. Escape with the flight of rapture.

You guys are wonderful.
Did anybody demand for a mark before any transactions?
That was how you rabble rousers started when BVN, credit cards, SIM cards came. Don't y'all get tired of all this?

guysbewise:
1. You not wanting to put a Bible under the pillow does not mean it does not work, The truth is that it works.
2. Do a research on the inventor of the cathode ray which later led to the TV and you will find that he was involved with the spirit world.
3. "The link between Kabbalah and quantum physics:
The kabbalists created an elaborate system to explain how the universe was sustained by divine energy flowing from an unknowable Godhead.
In his book, he uses concepts such as information theory to recast kabbalistic insights in scientific terminology. Or as the motto on the cover of the book puts it, “In the beginning, God created information…” Source: https://www.thejc.com/judaism/features/the-creative-link-between-kabbalah-and-quantum-physics-1.481174

The spirit world does exist and there are people who can communicate with the spirit world.

1. ..and I just told you those patients used all that before presenting to the hospital. Or do you think they had the experience and came straight to the hospital? An average Nigerian never first comes to the hospital when they have sleep paralysis or any mental issues. They usually exhaust spiritual means

2. This is from my research on cathode ray invention.

Cathode rays were discovered by Julius Plücker and Johann Wilhelm Hittorf.[14] Hittorf observed that some unknown rays were emitted from the cathode (negative electrode) which could cast shadows on the glowing wall of the tube, indicating the rays were traveling in straight lines. In 1890, Arthur Schuster demonstrated cathode rays could be deflected by electric fields, and William Crookes showed they could be deflected by magnetic fields. In 1897, J. J. Thomson succeeded in measuring the charge-mass-ratio of cathode rays, showing that they consisted of negatively charged particles smaller than atoms, the first "subatomic particles", which had already been named electrons by Irish physicist George Johnstone Stoney in 1891. The earliest version of the CRT was known as the "Braun tube", invented by the German physicist Ferdinand Braun in 1897.[15] It was a cold-cathode diode, a modification of the Crookes tube with a phosphor-coated screen. Braun was the first to conceive the use of a CRT as a display device.[16]

In 1908, Alan Archibald Campbell-Swinton, fellow of the Royal Society (UK), published a letter in the scientific journal Nature, in which he described how "distant electric vision" could be achieved by using a cathode-ray tube (or "Braun" tube) as both a transmitting and receiving device.[17] He expanded on his vision in a speech given in London in 1911 and reported in The Times[18] and the Journal of the Röntgen Society.[19][20]

The first cathode-ray tube to use a hot cathode was developed by John Bertrand Johnson (who gave his name to the term Johnson noise) and Harry Weiner Weinhart of Western Electric, and became a commercial product in 1922.[21] The introduction of hot cathodes allowed for lower acceleration anode voltages and higher electron beam currents, since the anode now only accelerated the electrons emitted by the hot cathode, and no longer had to have a very high voltage to induce electron emission from the cold cathode.[22]

Did you see any allusion to spiritual source? No, sir

3. Took my sweet time and was researching on Kabbalah. Bro, mysticism is a non-scientific field. It cannot be proven to be true.
And by the way, how can one man's book be the gospel truth, when it hasn't undergone any research or experiment to determine if Kabbalah is actually linked to science? So because he says so, then it must be the truth. Do you know how many fallacies you have committed?

Bro, I deal in hard core data.
Gimme data and leave old wives tales, I beg of you

expert234:
Yeah. Witches are real

One word: Proof

Ken4Christ:
Jesus loves you. Accept him as your Lord and Saviour and join the family of the new supermen on earth.

One day, we will fly to heaven.

I have been flying to heaven on several occasions.

Dtruthspeaker:
You really are mad o! I did say that trading has not completely stopped nor did I say that it was impossible for the other channels to work, yet you missed it! Hmm

Read your heading , it clearly said '… Hardness of buying and selling'
And I debunked it by saying people still do transactions

terrezo2002:
Everything you said is false. We can continue the conversation when you have the right knowledge. Good bye

While the Big Bang is as old as the universe itself, our concept of it is still strikingly new — less than 100 years old. And if you dig into its origins, you come across a curious fact.

Atheists, devout Christians, you might want to sit down for this: The Big Bang theory was first proposed by a Roman Catholic priest.

It wasn't just any priest. It was Monseigneur George Lemaître, a brilliant Belgian who entered the priesthood following his service as an artillery officer in the Belgian army during World War I. He was also an accomplished astronomer and a talented mathematician and physician. After earning his graduate degree in astronomy from the University of Cambridge in England, he came to Boston and spent a year at the Harvard College Observatory before earning his doctorate at MIT

In the early 1950s, Pope Pius XII not only declared that the big bang and the Catholic concept of creation were compatible; he embraced Lemaître's idea as scientific validation for the existence of God and of Catholicism.


Source
https://www.wgbh.org/news/post/big-bang-theory-roman-catholic-creation#:~:text=In%20the%20early%201950s%2C%20Pope,of%20God%20and%20of%20Catholicism.

I hate having arguments with people like you and Dliespeaker. You don't know anything but you make the loudest noise.
Sies!

Dtruthspeaker:
See yourself! First you said



After I countered, and said that was a miracle you then shifted post to say



And now that I pointed out your madness of calling a medical miracle a disease you have yet shifted again to say
"The fact that we said someone cannot walk, doesn't mean the person cannot walk again" where you had said "can't happen"

Do you see how crazy you look and sound?

First, before you reply me, I expected a right thinking person to read up what idiopathic means, but this is Dliespeaker, one of the dumbest theists to draw breath, so he doesn't care.
Idiopathic in medical science basically means, we dont know for now the etiology of a disease. There are also spontaneous remissions(sr) which means some disease(especially cancers ) get cured without drugs. Now before you god-of-the-gap sr and start shouting 'miracle', it happens to christians, Muslims, atheists. So choose your poison. Science is still researching these sr phenomena. There has been many phenomena that has been attributed to supernatural interventions in the past, but has been found to be quite natural. Example, epilepsy, sleep paralysis, schizophrenia etc. All the above were thought to be demon oriented, til science found plausible causes and treatment that worked. Imagine in these days, people like you still think they are supernatural oriented

Dtruthspeaker:
I did not say buying and selling has come to a halt but it has greatly impeded trading most especially as many of the other popular alternatives all seem to have stopped working at the same time leaving people pursuing those things called new notes.

People still buy and sell with transfers and other channels. Talk another one

FxMasterz:
They can choose to relate with us the way they please. You're the one who calls it 'hide and seek' because of your limited experience. My question to you is that, have you ever sought for God? Also, why do you think God must seek you or deliberately show Himself to you without seeking Him?

Remember in the bible and other 'sacred books', those gods spoke directly to their subjects. Even sent them blessings and curses directly. They saw action, first hand!
Now what is happening? Hearsays! And from these hearsays, pastors, imans, etc scam these gullible people, using the religion to scam them.
And talking of seeking god, you think atheists haven't tried all those stuffs and came up empty?

FxMasterz:
That's an assumption. How come human beings speak to the supposed God in prayers and still believes He hears. You can't speak to someone you don't see except you know for sure He exists. The first humans weren't fulls. They knew exactly what they were doing.
I've not written this for argument sake anyway. Just to introduce some new line of thoughts. I do not have any doubt as touching what I believe.
Thanks for your input.

Do you know there are thousands of gods during the ages of polytheism? And these gods were spread throughout the ages, from the Scandinavians(Thor), Aztecs, Mayans, Egyptians, Greeks(Zeus) etc. Did any of those gods speak to them? No. They even sacrificed people when no god told them to. Only high priests who claim to be spokespeople of those gods give them orders that 'thus says the gods'.
Thus they are foools, contrary to your views.

A001:
You invited me to a silly thread, claimed I said something I didn't say, and when I asked you to quote where I said so, you replied with the same post where I challenged you to back your claim with a proof.

It's obvious you're suffering from a brain disorder. This forum needs a block button. Public nuisance like you and the dolt that created this thread should blocked.

You are severely mentally cretarded. Reread that post and explain it to yourself. How does it sound to you? Was that initial post even addressed to me?

terrezo2002:
Lol. Science itself will not make sense without God the creator.
Your science told you the whole creation came as a result of a big bang theory. If this is what you believe, then what you learnt in school is total crap and you should regret going to school.

Actually, the big bang was advocated by theists. In fact the catholic church believes it, and even accepts evolution.
And how did your god make sense of science when the said science doesn't prove god? You well so?

Dtruthspeaker:
That desperate! You mean you call a situation in which doctors had said a person would NEVER walk again only for the person to one day start walking, an unknown disease? Gosh what a desperation

Understand how science work. The fact that we said someone cannot walk, doesn't mean the person cannot walk again. We say he or she cannot walk based on subsistence science because another doctor in another environment can make him walk, with better science. Especially in an advanced country.
Same with when we give somebody expected days to live. Our individual prognoses may differ based on subsisting scientific prowess.
In fact when a doctor gives his/her prognosis, and the patient goes for a second opinion, its still medical science that helps that same patient overcome the previous prognosis. A better medical science.
So come off your ignorance

guysbewise:
In response to your post I have opened this thread to address it here.

Why is it that keeping a Bible under the pillow day and night all the time stops sleep paralysis? This is because the Psalms in the Old Testament are very powerful.

Science itself is witchcraft. Research can improve an invention but coming up with the first invention of complex technologies involves knowledge from the spirit world.
Here is a documentary by a white man on some scientific inventions that involved communications with the spirit world. It says in the second video that the world of modern Physics is dominated by Jewish theorists, and it goes on to say that modern Physics often puts forward theories which have come straight from the pages of the Jewish Kabbalah.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8gGzTTx_QqM



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qYznDBC_fQk

1. Bible under the pillow doesn't work. Its anecdotal evidence, not proven evidence.
2. No, science isn't witchcraft. I assume you know the definition of both terms. There is no meeting point or common ground because everything in science is proven and can be proven anywhere, anytime and anyhow. Not so with witchcraft.
3. Have you seen any scientist quote knowledge from the spirit world? How do spirits give knowledge?
4. Can you name the Jewish theorists?

All in all, your deposition is just wild speculations and no hard facts, which is the mainstay of science.
About sleep paralysis, I have managed some cases in that regard, its mainly benzodiazepines and other sedatives we use. No bible under the pillow, no fasting and praying, and of course, no bullshit

FxMasterz:
I think we can get somewhere with this.
Frankly speaking, no one has the records of what the first humans worshipped. Our ancestors who were polytheists were still a later generation. Yet, we can still make judgement on their basis because at least they're theists, and we can safely say that theism was handed down to them by their predecessors.
For the first humans, we cannot talk about education because they wouldn't have needed it. These set of people would definitely see, touch and know whatever they were worshipping for them to have passed it down to all human race. We're the ones who need education because we don't know what they knew. All our religious education or research should be geared towards knowing what they knew. Or towards seeing what they saw.

This is very strong because they wouldn't pass down religion without having a cogent reason for doing so. I'm very sure that the first humans who passed it down didn't do so as a fabrication because there'll be nothing to gain from such. If atheism was the root, then we can discard religion because, if the first humans saw nothing, the human race would worship nothing, and it would be very difficult for anyone to convince anybody to worship something that does not exist.

Religion came from ignorance. The first man saw the earth, lightning, water etc and decided they must be created. And they decided there has to be a higher being who they had to complain to. Thus prayers were born. No god revealed anything

FxMasterz:
Bro, religion dates far into man's distant past. The first humans have a better understanding of these things than we whose religious histories have been majorly lost, and what we now call religion generally is a metamorphosis.

First, we need to understand that no one invented religion. It was actually in our roots. The first ancestors worshiped something or someone. Then, several generations afterwards, that something or someone became less known since everything at the time was passed down through oral history.

Then cane a generation that does not know what to worship but know they must worship something or someone as their fathers did, resulting in a mutiplicity of gods as everyone worships what he seems fit.

Generations later, some people are asking 'Is there really a God? Is there really an Afterlife?' if we have traceable records, I'm 100% certain we'll find the first Atheist who ever lived. This means the human race didn't take off in Atheism and then plunged itself into religion as we have it today. The Agnostics are themselves confused because they don't know what to believe.

The whole argument would have been easier if we have ancient records of things from the earliest man but the very lack of this is the reason why we all have disagreements.

However, even if such ancient records exist, many would still doubt such records. There are those who'll call them Fabrications. And of course, there are those unscrupulous elements who'll try to do mischievous forgeries and scripts for some personal gains at the expense of others.

Logically looking at it all, the begining wasn't atheism. That's fact. The first humans were theists. That should point us to some truths. They evidently were theists because they knew or even saw what they worshipped.
They also knew why they were worshipping him, it or them. They've passed the concept down to the entire human race who have now lost the identity of what was worshipped, and now the confusion.

Except we can prove that Atheism was the first thing humans ever did before veering into religion, we cannot safely void this kind of reasoning.

So if whatever the ancestors were worshipping showed themselves to our ancestors, how come they have been doing hide-and-seek with us? Shyness?

A001:
You're dumber than the religious people you criticize. A stupid person like you has no moral right to condemn any religious person because you're as foolish as them making claims yet when asked to provide proof, you're bringing irrelevant comments.

Youre as dumb as they come. How did you manage to read and write?

Carcholce:
Dtruthspeaker!!!

You just confirmed my thoughts about you. 😭😭

Please don’t ask me what are my thoughts about you. You’ll cry too if I tell you.

Bro, say no more. That dude has some severe psychosis I'm trying to manage

A001:
I can see your education is a waste. I told you to quote where I said "God can exist" and you quoted the same post below where I asked you to back your claim with a proof. Didinrin, it's obvious you've a brain disorder.


You both are a disgrace to atheism. When una escape from your mental asylum?

Your post was nebulous, to say the least. I don't have time for you, this fine morning. Have a good day

A001:
Who cares? Yesterday, the dimwit called agnostics monotheists. Today, it's agnostic theists.

Yet, he can't back his claim with my post that says God can exist or only one one God exists. I'm sure tomorrow, he will use another term he doesn't know its meaning to describe agnostics.

I don't have the luxury of time to be engaging a foolish poster that calls himself an atheist yet bears "divine light". It's plain stupidity.

Mr A001 Please who wrote the above posts.
Are you now seeing you have mania?

Dtruthspeaker:
Of course you people don't say never because you have been taken by surprises when you people said "never" by miracles, we all know that.

And saying "explain" in response to an answer I gave to your question means that I have answered the question.

Its not because of that, you dumb. Its because of idiopathic causes.
When you reply a question with shady terms, the onus lies on you to explain

guysbewise:
I was like you before bro, but now I know demonic activities are real. It's not something to show proof of, but you can only experience it from someone close to you who can attack with demonic activities, then you will not ask for proof again.

Lol. Those 'demon activities' are known sleep paralysis. Its sad Nigerians are so deficient in scientific knowledge and would be the first to tell you the spiritual controls the physical. Ask them to prove the spiritual exist, and they go gibberish. Now tell them to tell you why they think the spiritual is very important and how its knowledge has helped them, since it controls the physical. They go more gibberish. You know all these things but yet those you call spiritually blind are better off than you. Of what use is your 'spiritual knowledge'?

christistruth01:
You don't know a thing yet you pretend to know because you are too proud to admit that you don't have a Clue


Isaac Newton who discovered the Laws of Gravity was a Pastor

Tesla the greatest inventor was a very devout Christian and a deeply Spiritual Man

Faraday who discovered Electricity was also a Part time Pastor

Youre indeed a cretard per excellence. Did any of these scientist you mentioned fix 'god' in their researches? Did you see Faraday, Tesla or Newton say god created electricity or gravity? Religion has eaten deep into your brain.
By the way, those scientists weren't your regular christian. In todays christian standard, they'd be deemed unbelievers.
Newton was a heretic. Newton was an unusual Christian. At some point in his adult years, and certainly by 1690, Newton had dismantled the standard biblical proofs for the doctrine of the Trinity whilst keeping his beliefs to himself.

Tesla backslid. He turned rogue when he realized christianity was a scam. He was raised an Orthodox Christian. Later in life he did not consider himself to be a "believer in the orthodox sense", said he opposed religious fanaticism, and said "Buddhism and Christianity are the greatest religions both in number of disciples and in importance."

Faraday was Sandermanian christian. Maybe can check out what they do, if your brain can handle the burden.

A001:
You can't find the post? Keep quoting me with different monikers manufacturing lies in your head.

Huh?
Dude, I don't have another moniker.
Are you off your rockers?

A001:
Quote where I said so. It seem you dey ment, mentioning me unnecessarily on a stupid thread I don't follow.

You said this on this thread, didn't you?

Yet, he can't back his claim with my post that says God can exist or only one one God exists. I'm sure tomorrow, he will use another term he doesn't know its meaning to describe agnostics.
Looks like youre the psychotic guy here

Ken4Christ:
Upgrade your life. You need Jesus. Get out the hook of the devil who has programmed your life for destruction.

Tell me, can you fly to Yaba?

43Ronin:
Do you stay close to yaba?

Was about asking the same

terrezo2002:
In your mind you have made an intelligent post. Well, I was not speaking to you. Those who can relate can understand.
Keep explaining everything scientifically like we didn't study science. You will understand someday.
Cheers

Obviously you didn't do science. If you did, you're entitled to a complete refund and an apology to your parents for the waste of funds

Dtruthspeaker:
You said likely and not "never" meaning it can happen.



See, if I say you are abnormal you would be offended but what else can I say when I clearly answered your question and you even moved on to say "explain".

Which I have now finished explaining it and now you say I did not answer the question. Which reasonable person would not think whether you are mad?

In medicine/science, there's no never. Even though we know an event can't happen, we use 'not likely'. Its unlikely your insomniac can't get a good sleep.
And no, that answer you gave me wasn't a reply to my question. But if you want to decline, no problem

Dtruthspeaker:
That is not the issue and I know you got the point that it is a miracle to him if and when he slept deeply and richly and undisturbedly all night like most people have sometimes.

And I'm trying to tell you its not likely to happen.
You dodged the question I asked Is sleeping and waking a miracle?