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MaxInDHouse:
I'm not your brother but neighbour.
Please stop calling me "MAD" simply because we aren't agreeing on matters, you can see that i don't agree with religionists too except Jehovah's Witnesses so if they call me "MAD" it's understandable because religionists in the first century also called Jesus "MAD" {John 10:20} but you that's not into any religion doing the same makes no sense at all!

Alright, neighbor. Thou art known as Max, henceforth. May the forces be with thou

LordReed:
I ask the question because you say dead matter needs some kind of indwelling before it lives, if that was the case then life wouldn't require the chemical functions, the so called soul should be able to power a body without them shouldn't it?

Also another corollary would be so do you think multicellular microscopic organisms have a soul or do you consider them as non living things?

I don't understand what you mean by "None of us experiences ourselves as a body". I've never heard anybody describe their experiences as something exclusively happening to their body but not to them unless the person was feeling some sort of detachment. Are you saying feeling a sense of detachment is what everybody feels normally?

BTW I think we have discussed this before, there is no "physical seat of consciousness" its an irrelevant question once you understand that consciousness is an emergent property that is based largely about the brain but is an amalgation of all the body's biological functions.

@ the bolded. Some schizophrenic and manic patients have described themselves as such. There's a reason they are mentally unbalanced

MightySparrow:
I like your explanation. Truth can be gleaned from the things that happen as well as things that don't.
I was in a class one day, a Bible teaching class,.
Our resource person retorted that we should not believe in the nonsense of the soul travel professed by some cults.


Incidentally, a many was there from another ministry, a new convert who was just coming out of Eckamker or Grail Message ( I can't remember which one).

This man angrily answered our teacher that she should not talk about what she knows nothing about. That it was what he had practiced for about fifteen years.

When someone leaves his body consciously, which part of him goes out?

What is a soul?

So you took the word of an ex-ECK over your teacher?

DeepSight:
It is disappointing for you to have to reach as far as such a fringe modern sect in order to fully ground your ad hominems against the ancient and timeless concept of a soul.

The soul is the intangible inner aspect of man, and this is also not a foolish concept because men of all ages have recognized that mere matter cannot, of itself, be a conscious and living being. Mere matter is dead. The body is a self evident and obvious tool for an indwelling being. Every function of the body attests to this, including all the senses as well as the very facts of birth and death.

So who created the souls(if it existed)?

TenQ:
Inorganic atoms react by exchange or sharing of electrons. Present exactly the same environment, you'll obtain the same reaction.

The DNA contains a library of information, where do they come from?

From replication

MaxInDHouse:
I have apologized and will never have anything to do with you again so free me please and go chat with whoever pleases you and stop calling me names. It's not by force you believe my God and it's not by force i become an atheist.
Stop following me with insults it's OK!

Where's the insults bro?

elated177:
Could you highlight what Yahushua the Messiah taught that you practise? What exactly do you teach that is not part of the personal opinion of your leaders?

Maxindhouse, for your information, I, elated177, am one of the saints, servants, followers, witnesses and messengers of Yahushua the Messiah.

2 religious fruitcakes squaring off. A rare sight to see indeed

TenQ:
A miracle is any occurrence that defy the natural laws.

Just explain how the dumb chemical elements acquired information?

Lets assume its a force that drives them together. So where does the force come from?

TenQ:
I didn't ask you any questions about DNA, and for your information, the DNA comprises of a chemical assembly of inorganic elements like Carbon, Nitrogen, Oxygen, Hydrogen etc.

Tell me how inorganic chemicals acquired information to produce life?

So its a miracle that makes oxygen, hydrogen to interact?

MaxInDHouse:
If you're not disturbed why following my thread nah?
You called me names and i have left you to do whatever pleases you yet as an atheist you can't live without quoting me the same person you call "MAD" John 10:20

Dude you call me names too. And I post in interesting threads and not just yours. Notice its not all your threads in post in.

MaxInDHouse wouldn't kee me here

MaxInDHouse:
I know why!

It's my comments that's disturbing you mostly because others you're able to outsmart with sound reasoning but mine you've found tough, practically applicable among well meaning citizens and irrefutably valid.
So it pains you everyday giving you sleepless nights that a Bible believer proved wiser and smarter than you with all what you're carrying in your skull.
Jesus is the most wonderful counselor of all time {Isaiah 9:6} so his real students will prove to be the wisest of all humans throughout the earth {Luke 7:35} that's why self acclaimed philosophers like you will hate us with passion {John 15:19} as you find it really difficult to refute what we preach, teach and practice within the society! Isaiah 54:17

Lol.
Hahahahahahahahaha

LordReed cuman hear what your guy is saying

TenQ:
Why don't you first answer my question

Do you Pray to God for your healing when sick?

No I don't. Waste of energy and time. I take drugs

TenQ:
Of course, you are a miracle. If not, explain how
1. A collection of inorganic chemicals (which you are) developed consciousness?
2. An assembly of chemicals (which you are) can choose its own course of behavior violating both the laws of physics and chemistry?

Please, make it short.

In case you are not aware, organic chemicals are made from in-organic elements like Carbon, Hydrogen, Oxygen and Nitrogen

Do you know what DNA is? If you don't, its okay. Use Google. While at it, check what it does.

TenQ:
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I expected this stupid question !

How do you want me to drag my evidences unto Nairaland for your adequate scrutiny?

What kind of evidence will suffice for you?

I suggest you take a chill pill, recheck the dictionary meaning of the word miracle. Then check whether you have any events in your life that is supernatural. That is how a logical being reasons. I know religion has wiped the word logic outta your brain, but you can try and use it. perform the above actions and revert

MaxInDHouse:
And settled out of court just as JWs also went to court and settled out of court Sir!



You're so fond of calling me "MAD" just because i don't think like you. Doesn't that make you a terrorist?
Because that's the only reason people can't live and let live, it's not compulsory you and i think the same way if truly you're an atheist that's what your brains should support which is freedom to choose whatever you like.
But calling your fellowman "MAD" for disagreeing with you doesn't define an atheist Sir!

Nah, I don't call you mad for being a theist. 99% of folks here are theists, do you see me calling them mad? Hell no! Ask yourself why

MaxInDHouse:
Prove i'm not smarter by following those that are smart nah?

What do you think.
Between a slowpoke and a genius who always follow ever quoting the other?

Lol. Another headbanger from the stables of MadMax

MaxInDHouse:
Michael the son of Jackson did settle many of such cases out of court and it was after his death that all those accusing him of child molestation took to their social media pages to confess their sins.

So ọmọ you're wrong with the highlighted!

He went to court

TenQ:
Even with medication, I pray.

The question to you is:
Do you Pray to God for your healing when sick?

What is the essence of prayer?

Janosky:
From Genesis to Revelation,has Jehovah's servants ever been perfect?
1 Corinthians 5:1-2, did you see that taboo between step mother and child?

Ok. So you're saying since the ancient guys did it, ya'll gon go one better by mol@sting your own kids?
Nice

Janosky:
Oga, what do you call those natural phenomena that science can't explain nor understand?

There are many phenomena like that, but scientists eventually figure it out. Just like lightning, flooding, earthquakes etc. Ancient folks thought they were punishments by gods. Even though some peeps still believe them as punishments til today, we know how they originate, and can predict to an extent when they occur. I'm sure if Janosky was living back in those ancient days, he'll say those phenomena were supernatural cos science couldn’t figure it out

Janosky:
When you fall sick ,do you pray for healing without any medication at all?

Nah people like you dem they deceive in Christendom, when Pastorpreneurs dey do IVF & born Twins,dem go say nah miracle dem take born Twins.

Do you believe in miracles?

Janosky:
According to your submission, when jaephoenix agrees to an out of court settlement with his legal opponent, therefore both parties are guilty?


The fact that someone makes litigation against jaephoenix is evidence he is guilty?



Romans 12:18
"If possible, so far as it depends on you, be at peace with all men"

JWs strive "to be at peace with all men" ,thats the principles from the holy scriptures we follow.
It is not a perfect world.

Stop twisting facts. The fact that Jaephoenix agrees to settle out of court is evidence of culpability

TenQ:
Thanks bro.

I am expecting him to ask me to bring the evidence to Nairaland! SMH!!

They do not know that every child of God is empowered to preach, heal and cast out demons. The limitations depend only on our Spiritual gifting, the level of our faith, the level of our fellowship with God and a life of purity!

But this is completely absent in their lives as they do not have the Spirit of Christ!

I can as well tell you I'm a miracle, can't I?

TenQ:
Evidence!?
1. I am an evidence
2. My wife and children are evidences
3. Those I've prayed for are evidences

Ummm
1. How are you an evidence? If you are, so are billions of people.
2. Ditto
3. I don't understand
Just in case you're one of those ignorant theists that don't know what a miracle is, this is the definition
an extraordinary event manifesting divine intervention in human affairs
Show me how you are a miracle?

gohf:
you finally do quote scripture and still show yourself a liar... "As if he was God himself" the same bible said children obey your parents, slaves your masters and citizens your leaders. Yet to you this is God prompting slavery, what should God say to make a rebellious soul like your pleased, kill your masters, be unfaithful to those you serve. The same scripture that it is written if you are asked to go a mile, go an extra. That we should work more.

In a world where slaves hated their masters, they should learn from Joseph who found himself in slavery and was faithful and good not sleeping with his boss's wife, so they shouldn't take what doesn't belong to them. Do you even know what it means to be honorable, may not when common civil servants can't serve faithfully without bribes. It was because of God Joseph didn't sleep with his boss wife

look damned is the man who twists Gods word, changes it, removes from it for whatsoever reason especially for a selfish reason. You out of the foolishness of your heart said God describes how to become a slave for life even when the scripture you quoted doesn't say so, not to mention other verses that you left out that teaches the truth. But out of your wickedness have you not distorted the truth. Is this what your ancestoral great ape taught you as morals, to lie against what you feel is dumb and can't defend itself. Or to misquote what you have read is very moral.



Why didn't you write about the redemption and the solutions provided to the very actions and decisions these men make to sell themselves to slavery.

Even the slaves were to be treated properly but is there kindness in your heart to see it, when you seem so filled with hate with a being you claim not to exist.

Even Jesus said some of those hundred laws and rules were given by Moses because of the wickedness in the hearts of men.

And when you release them, do not send them away empty-handed. You shall furnish him liberally out of your flock, out of your threshing floor, and out of your winepress. As the Lord your God has blessed you, you shall give to him. Remember that you were slaves in Egypt and the Lord your God redeemed you. That is why I give you this command today. But if your servant says to you, “I do not want to leave you,” because he loves you and your family and is well off with you, then take an awl and push it through his earlobe into the door, and he will become your servant for life. Do the same for your female servant.


Deuteronomy 15.

You will not understand if God doesn't help you nor save you. You will not agree if God never visits you.

😂 May God help you

Lol. This is like when someone(yahweh) sees his best friend(slave master) maltreat, beat up and rape his girlfriend(slaves) and he tells his best friend's girl friend, "Please be obedient to him, if he says suck his dicck, suck it with love and care, if he says jump out of the window, do it head first". Instead of castigating his best friend for his sins, challenging him, or even reporting to the police.
Nowhere in the Bible was it stated that slavery is bad. Even in the 10 Commandments, murder, lying, adultery was castigated but not slavery.
So shut up your dirty lying mouth

gohf:
may God help you

Your ignorance is palpable.
You don't even know humans have a tail bone. Please google 'coccyx' and cure yourself of your ignorance.
During fetal development, the humans grow a tail til a genetic alterations causes it to stop. The remaining tail stays with us. Sometimes the tail continues growing to full 10cm or more, and have to be surgically excised.
Why do I have to educate theists anytime I login to Nairaland? Why?

gohf:
You are indeed confused. which nonsense explanation you liar, you didn't even quote the bible all you did was claim you knew what was in the bible whereas you still are in no way able of showing you are have any level of authority to claim to know what the bible teaches.

If you can't see the bible quotes, you need an ophthalmologist

Jashub:
Christianity was far different from Islam in terms of idealogies.

Secondly, Jesus did not teach his followers to pick up swords and fight battles on behalf of God, but Muhammed did that and that was how his religion spread.


So don't blame Jesus for the behavior of bad Christians who wanted to control the world.

1. Same way muslims argue that the terrorists we see aint true Muslims. Look, anyone can commit any sin, even murder, and s/he is covered by any of the holy books, be it Bible, Qoran, Veda etc.
2. No bro. Christianity is the same as Islam. Pinpoint the differences, lets see. Its all religions. Everyone insists his or hers is different, while its same ol, same ol.
In the Bible, Yahweh instructed Israelites to butcher up whole cities, didn't he?
Bro look, if not for the Great Crusades instituted by the Romans and Constantine, you'll be headbanging and shouting allahu akhbar, because those wars spread christianity to the Gaels, Anglo-Celtic countries which are the present day Britain, and the British brought it to your ancestors. So it doesn't matter

terrezo2002:
Let's not deviate from the topic. Leave defects alone. You know in part. There are many things you don't know

Lol. You can't just quote unknown sites for teratogenic drugs. They are even divided into classes and misoprostol isn't amongst any

terrezo2002:
Well, God didn't come from thin air

So where did god and humans pop out from?

terrezo2002:
And someone comes and tell you who he knows how the money got there, you who don't know begins to argue with the person. What does that make you?

And if the person tells me the money got there from thin air, would you believe it?