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Dtruthspeaker:
Why you do you show your folly,
When inside a tent can we not see the top (Ariel) of the tent ?

can a thing stand without foundation?

Your foolishness is without measure.

And I'm getting flak from the dude that failed o'level biology and geography? Awww shit.
Anyway bro, the earth doesn't have foundations.
And Isaiah was talking about aerial view. Aerial means views from the skies. And its obvious there wasn't any planes back then. Unless of course, you had flying chariots back then.

Image123:
You forgot what i told you, i don't owe you. Go out and search better.

Good. Since you have admitted you got no proof, don't go mouthing off that miracles exist. That would be lying, and guess who is the father of all liars? Nice!

kkins25:
Is there any one that wasn't copied from those before it?

I dont know. But we're not talking about those other ones, are we? We're talking about the Bible here. And there's proof it copied all its stories

LordReed:
LoLz! Don't be surprised someone will come out and start selling John 3:16 crypto. Bwahahahahaha!

There's even Jesus coin now

Aemmyjah:
You're the one shooting yourself in the foot and brain
Does the skies not look like a tent over the Earth?
How tiny would we be like when viewed from space?

Does Psalm 104:5 tells you the earth is flat as you yourself said?

Was Isaiah talking about aerial view of the earth? No.
Psalm 104:5 is even worse. Its saying the earth has foundations

Image123:
Quit sitting on that lazy armchair.

Lol. I aint lazy. Like I said, I have searched and haven't seen any proof. Its your turn to do the needful

Image123:
Weeks? i have barely known you for one week. If you can lie so brazenly about something so simple, you again prove yourself as the confirmed armchair critic.

About a week. Doesn't matter. Keep looking for excuses for your inability to provide proof

Dtruthspeaker:
That is the reason why the Bible is cryptic.

Lol. Cryptobible.
Which blockchain is it built on?

Dtruthspeaker:
Any one who was watching would see that the dreaded last days started after a certain prophecy was fulfilled and that was in 2010.

What happened in 2010 sir?

MaxInDHouse:
When John said:

"The one who practices sin originates with the Devil, because the Devil has been sinning from the beginning. For this purpose the Son of God was made manifest, to break up the works of the Devil" 1John 3:8

According to God's word when He looked at everything He has made it was PERFECT! Gen 1:31

God knew that no matter what Satan and his cohorts (demons) may fabricate right thinking humans will discern that something is wrong somewhere. Adam has the sense and power to say "NO" to Eve just as Job who wasn't as untouchable for Satan later did despite all the calamities Satan brought upon Job.

So if you doubt what demons are capable of doing then you need to intensify in your study of the scriptures.

Everything Jesus taught the demons themselves knew but the problem is that they are fighting against God's sovereignty.

For instance do you think your human rulers don't know how to make life comfortable for their citizens?
Of course they knew very well!
But why aren't they doing it?

Well it's because if life is comfortable for you the domination won't be there anymore and their own children won't rule over yours but if you're living from hand to mouth they will pay you to go and kill your brother who is speaking against them and if you decline tens of thousands around you will do it!

So i purposely brought this up please let the atheists cry if they want because God's only begotten Son has come to do what demons and their human agents tried to fabricate for thousands of years but failed:

"All those who have come in place of me are thieves and plunderers; but the sheep have not listened to them" John 10:8

YES! Many have come to confuse people so that by the time the real Christ arrive his case will make no sense but we have the EVIDENCE to prove that they're all working for Satan and demons who knew before hand what Jesus is coming to do!

Lol. Your case is getting worse.

kkins25:
And..

… that means your favorite story book, the Bible was copied.
Savvy?

Image123:
Just like i defined, an armchair critic. You already pre-determined that an unmentioned miracle did not happen, yet you expect me to waste my time trying to convince you. Who are you again? If you want to disprove miracles, get off that chair and put your money where your mouth is, work those lazy socks off.

I have already told you I haven't seen any, and also said if you have any evidence, let me have it. But you have been going round in circles for weeks now, just mouthing off. How would I get evidence of miracles when I clearly told you I haven't seen any?
Seriously I wonder how these guys reason

MaxInDHouse:
He is quoting the misinterpretation of atheists who infused in his head what he should think about God's word. Whenever you see an atheist quoting the Bible his white supremacists has spoonfed him on what he should conclude on each Bible verse he wants to quote.
So when they meet true disciples of Christ explaining better they get really mad thinking you can't know better than their white supremacists who told them they're the former custodians of God's word that brought Christianity to the blacks therefore they have the right to determine how a black man should think regarding the Bible!

If you ask an atheist "who is a CHRISTIAN" he will start telling you what his white supremacists gave him as a definition but if you ask him "who is CHRIST?" an atheist will get provoked because he knows there's no way he can rightly define CHRISTIAN without admitting that CHRIST should be the determining factor!

MadMax the man, always talking out of point as if its in fashion.
By the way, between you that is told everything to believe by 8 bald headed old white men and me, that think independently, who is being spoonfed?

Aemmyjah:
Lol
You specifically mentioned the Bible Said Earth is flat
I asked you to show me but you couldn't
Apeman

No, it didn't specifically mention flat earth' but look at these verses.

Isaiah 40:22
It is He who sits above the circle of the earth,
And its inhabitants are like grasshoppers,
Who stretches out the heavens like a curtain
And spreads them out like a tent to dwell in.

Psalm 104:5
He established the earth upon its foundations,
So that it will not totter forever and ever

Read these 2 verses first

Image123:
If you want evidence, come out and get it. i don't have time for armchair critics.

Evidence of something that didn't happen? Lol
Bro, this is 2023, your gullibility levels is off the hook

Aemmyjah:
Where's your evidence that everything in the natural world has no Creator?
Where's your evidence that the Bible says the Earth is flat?

Foolish ape

Ah, my dear friend is back
And here I am, thinking he'd change and be more courteous in the new year. Indeed I'm a foolish ape
Anyway, I thought we have gone through this part of the script, dear friend. In law, we have a saying(I may be a bit off the mark), he who alleges must provide proof. We all came to this world, saw everything , you alleged that not only was it created, but that it was created by your favorite sky daddy. So, you have to show us proof. I can allege it was the Flying Spaghetti Monster, and we'd haggle all day, and tire ourselves.
About the flat earth ish, I have dropped verses from your favorite story book where it said the earth is flat and with foundations.
Get a grip

NaBanga:
Then I pity the quality of physicians that Nigeria is producing. If you don't know what dry humping is, it means religion has completely penetrated your mind. Please do not do any pelvic exams on any women. Do not perform any obstetric procedures or advise any woman about fertility. I really pity Nigerians.

I realize I have to deal with ignorant dolts like you every now and then on Nairaland, so I'll be concise.
This is the definition of 'dry humping' taken from 2 reliable sources, namely WebMD and Medical News Today

Dry humping generally involves rubbing or grinding your genitals against your partner’s body or genitals. In many cases, one or both partners are at least partially clothed. Since dry humping can lead to orgasm, it can be pleasurable without the risk of pregnancy [/b]or sexually transmitted diseases (STDs), or during times you would prefer not to have sex. Dry humping may happen in addition to sex with penetration, or may act as pre-intimacy. Dry humping can also be done alone by rubbing your clothed genitals against a pillow or piece of furniture

Dry humping is sexual contact[b], but without bodily fluid contact, usually through underwear or clothes

Now as you can see, there are barriers to propagation of the semen into the vaginal canal. First is the clothing material, which is both a mechanical and chemical barrier. This alone would kill most of the spermatozoa because the fibers and the bacteria are simply not conducive for it to survive. Next is distance which is brought about by the phallus being far away from the vulva.
Now, I know a woman can be impregnated by semen released on the vulva. But in this case we are talking about a virgin, a virgo intacta, which presents a third barrier, which is the hymen. In most virgin females I have seen, this hymen is very tiny. Granted, semen is a fluid but it is very viscous and much much unlikely to enter the vagina, even if somehow it manages to negotiate the first 2 barriers.

kkins25:
Muslims believe that Jesus christ wasn't crucified, does it mean, islam has impacted christianity? Hindus interpret the phenomenon using tools from their own paradigm. It doesn't mean they incorporated the concept of resurrection into their tenets of beliefs. Moreso, you've not really said anything to backup that idiot's[no pun intended] claims.

Please, read little on what hindus really mean when they say Avatar. Or watch "Avatar: the last airbender" for some clue. Avatar kora and Avatar Ang are both Reincarnations of Avatars, but Kora isn't Ang as you would come to learn.

We are talking about copying stories here. The great flood, Virgin birth etc were all copied. What is complex about that

Image123:
i don't give such luxury to armchair critics, i am not at the mercy of silly arguments. If you want evidence, come out and get it.

Looks like this is a regular theist. There's this JW guy here, Aemmyjah. Any time I ask him to prove something, he'll tell me to look for the evidence. I'm like whoa. You ask me to prove mine, I get you the evidence. I ask the same, you tell me to look for the evidence. Lol.
Look theists, we aint all cretarded like y'all. Our brain isn't seeped in this brainwashing juice like yours

Image123:
Great, means more theists are wiser than engaging armchair critics.

… and you wanna engage a critic without facts?
Don't you see how bizarre it sounds?
Anybody can make any claims. If i tell you I wings, you won't believe me. So I don't understand your reason for not providing evidence

NaBanga:
It's best to use Google. The fact that you don't know this already speaks volumes. Nigerians' ignorance about science is too overwhelming at times. The average Nigerian is consumed with religion and can't think clearly.

Lol, bro
1. I'm a physician with 16 years experience
2. I don't need Google to explain such phenomenon to me because it doesn't happen. You said a dry hump(which means no penetration of the hymen has occurred). So how is the semen going to penetrate the clothes and pass through the tiny hymen hole.
3. Oh, and I'm not theist, bro

Image123:
i don't owe you.

Exactly the response I almost always get from theists who claim to witness supernatural events. No evidence!

NaBanga:
Yes they can dear.

Care to explain the science, sire

Image123:
Oh,blimey! i thought you said it was all copied from some epic book? Where do you stand, copied or hatched?
What do you know? The fact that you haven't seen any healings ever shows you haven't seen anything. Better for you to keep quiet and let those with experience handle their matter. A man with an experience is not at the mercy of some mere arguments.

1. When I say copied, I mean the stories. Some concepts were copied too. Like an eye for an eye
2. Oh great. Since you have witnessed miracles, can you prove at least one of them? Give before and after photo, with addresses and medical documents.

MaxInDHouse:
That's why i often told you that you're a religionist it's just that you don't know the god you're worshiping.
How can you spend your time, data, and effort in going through all those pains yet there's no tangible reason for doing all that?
Ọmọ you dey worship something but you no know!

So why do you take the time, data and energy answering me?

MaxInDHouse:
She wants to worship with me but since you're OK with her why not join in worshiping with her?

Worship as what?

NaBanga:
Any woman can have a virgin birth. This can be done through "dry humping" where the man releases enough to enter the woman, but does not penetrate the woman. It can also be achieved through IVF AND IUF. Immaculate conception is another matter all together.

Virgins can't get pregnant like that

tctrills:
Ok, at least we know where we both stand. Hopefully, we would discuss other topics in the future.

Ok sire

tctrills:
You are really a funny guy. But then you totally misunderstood my comments. Religion is not a popularity contest. I was actually addresses you fallacy.
So I mentioned the Christian population because when you said Y'all, it was the fallacy of bunching 2.4 billion people and thousands of sects together. You can't boast of meeting and discussing with most Christians or even most sects. IYou could have addressed me as a single entity discussing with you but you chose to bunch 2.4 billion people together.
So all your pew research talk was not needed

Bro, when I said y'all I mean you all. Now its an uncountable quantity. It just means some of y'all. Not all y'all .Just like when rappers say "Y'all niggas is crazy", it doesnt mean every single black male is crazy. So no, I didn’t commit any fallacy of hasty generalization

tctrills:
This is so unfair
We are talking about a religion with 2.4 billion followers.
About your so called errors, honestly l think you are imagining things. Are there questions to be asked? Yes
I constantly ask questions each day.
But I think you keep looking for faults that you now see faults and errors that don't exist. You now see something wrong in every word God speaks.

1. Yeah, I know. Theists love fallacies. I was wondering when you were gonna dip into the fallacy can.
You just committed one well known theist fallacy: appeal to popularity.

The appeal to popularity fallacy is made when an argument relies on public opinion to determine what is true, right, or good. This approach is problematic because popularity does not necessarily indicate something is true. Using this flaw in logic, a person may come to a conclusion that has little or no basis in fact

Youre appealing to the fact that christians are about 2.4 billions strong, so that means they are right. But you conveniently forgot that there was a point in time Christianity was a minority and polytheism was 90% of the world belief. Imagine if someone has asked an ancient Greek worshipping Zeus if he was right and he replied that almost all Greeks worshipped Zeus, so he must be the true god
Or asking an ancient Scandinavian Viking why he worshipped Thor?
See my drift?
The reason Christianity is the more popular religion is because the Romans who ruled the world were christians(even though theirs weren't more like paganistic Christianity compared to today's version) , they converted masses by the sword, and not evangelism. If the Arabs had won more wars, you'd probably be a muslim. Heck, if you were born in India, you'd be trying to convince me Hindu is the true religion and Christianity is rubbish.
By the way the population of Christians are diminishing. For example in the US, The U.S.'s Christian majority has been shrinking for decades. A Pew Research Center study shows that as of 2020, about 64% of Americans identify as Christian. Fifty years ago, that number was 90%.
2. You said I looked for faults. Really? If a mere mortal like me can easily find lies and contradictions in a book that was supposedly divinely inspired, what does it tell you?

tctrills:
I don't understand why you are being paranoid. I never told you l know the mind of God. What I know is what God reveals to me.
Kindly explain the Hallmark of delusion that you believe I am exhibiting. I am eager to learn about my delusion from the expert.

1. If you noticed, I used the word 'y'all' which is the contraction of 'you all'. So it means I wasn't referring to you but christians generally, especially those that say they got the mind of god, in fact, god na dia paddy, wey dem dey halla anyhow, dey drink tea with. But once I post this passage to them, they start giving all sorts of excuses, like saying god is god etc. Some recant from their 'yhwh na my paddy' posture to I don't know.
I watch all these drama unfold with amusement.
Since you have no repsonse to this error, do you still wanna see more of the Bible gaffes?

tctrills:
All you showed my were 3 places you think God changed his mind,Or you interpret it that way.
I think you are dwelling on the petty. What really did God do that you are not in agreement with not this petty stuff where you are trying to force your personal interpretation on us. I refused to interpret God's thoughts because it's not in my place to do so.

You refuse to interprete yhwh's thought but you guys pride yourself of 'knowing the mind of god'. Now it's time to prove you know the 'mind of god' youre balking. Lol.
What you're exhibiting is one of the hallmarks of delusion.