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Aemmyjah:
Lying senile cursed god Courz
This January 2023 and you're showing results of October 2022
Your fufu brain needs replacement
I can well go to Google and forward back to November and say that France are the world champion and not Argentina
You're in torment

Mention your organization na
Where's your Pinky?
Has she changed her mind?
You're expecting me to leave my house and join you that rain has been beating cos you have no shelter from the storm and the only one available, you are not willing to join but it hurts you to see people thriving in there, enjoying themselves and people of all sorts are coming in

Your name is sorry
I really pity your children cos of the sadist they have as a Father
Sadistic, omnilying, cursed Courz is that will teach them how to lie and slander and manipulate others

Since you said all the misfortunes befalling JWs since Oct 2022 was a long time ago(even though it is barely 3 months ago), I was expecting you to post data and information showing that there are successes and growth in your organization from Oct 2022 to Jan 2023 but alas all I saw was just abuses you decide to rain on him. Why bro?
PS: Some abuses and cusses coming my way…

Aemmyjah:
Woooooooooooow
I de clap hands
Our stats for service year 2022 is already out and available on our website

Don't mind evil Courz
He's in torment but he does not want a drop of water, he wants that humble lazarus to be in the same condition as he is

Serena williams is also baptized. I'm not happy cos she was a celeb but that it will silence critics or make people rethink when they hear rubbish about Jehovah's Witnesses. Seeing that the popular woman will make them find facts by themselves about who we are but she's equal like everyone else
I hope she persevere in her service to God.
She's no longer the celeb we see on screen but she's now a Jehovah's Witness. She'll go from house to house telling ohters about the ultimate solution to mankind problem- God's kingdom

Bro Max
About what I told you via email
Jehovah has done a miracle for me ooo

I thought u guys said no more miracles

Courz:
You are even quoting for him exactly where Watchtower proclaimed that the world would in 1975 and he is still asking you to quote over and over again. Is that not Madness? At least, people reading his comments can see his stupidity and foolishness! They can see that he is not mentally sound. He is seriously blocking his brain from thinking so that he will remain blind. When he is tired of typing fantasies and choose to see Watchtower for who they are, he will wake up. All what he keeps typing is reassurance to keep him under Watchtower's spell.

In psychology, brainwashing as a form of severe indoctrination is marked by physical and psychological stress, intense social pressure, and a variety of persuasion techniques. The individual ends up having his entire worldview, complete with its 'logic'.

MaxInDHouse:
The battle is spiritual but you can still sense the armor of a real warrior! Ephesians 6:11-17

I am Maximus one of Jehovah's Witnesses each of you will receive a wound no matter how many you are that's not an empty threat but a promise from a fully armed warrior!

Lol. This guy

oteneaaron:
Here we go again.

Another round of beating around the bush.

Since you're waiting for me to teach you English, I will gladly oblige.

This is what I said:



This is what Watchtower, the "only true religion" said in the Awake! of1966 Oct 8 pp. 19 - 20:



Here is another statement from Watchtower, the "only true religion":



What is the difference?

Who told you guys the world would end in 1975?

Was it not your god Jehovah?

Was this not "food at the proper time"?

How can the only true religion be teaching LIES?

You can continue beating around the bush.

That is your modus operandi.

Dont sweat it bro. Just watch MadMax do another round of swerves and dodges. I pity him sometimes. It must be tiring for him

MaxInDHouse:
At last you've returned to your vomit!
So you're actually referring to me as "MAD" but all this people claiming they also believe in the existence of God aren't MAD except the one who has been responding to all your questions regarding the words of his God. Matthew 10:25

May JEHOVAH be praised!

They only claimed they are worshiping some god but they can't say anything about their gods {Psalms 115:4-8} and you accepted them the way they are only to start labeling the one who speaks about his God as "MAD" John 10:20

You can't gaslight me, bro. I'm above that

tctrills:
Man is an eternal being. Death is only a separation of the body and the spirit. It's only the body that dies.
Again through Christ all men shall be resurrected.
Also, it's ok if you don't agree or believe the bible but at least you should quote it correctly so we don't start arguing over nothing. The bible never stated that God was searching for Adam and Eve. Please let's stick to the more relevant arguments.

Genesis 3
Then the man and his wife heard the sound of the LORD God as he was walking in the garden in the cool of the day, and they hid from the LORD God among the trees of the garden.
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But the LORD God called to the man, "Where are you?"
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He answered, "I heard you in the garden, and I was afraid because I was naked; so I hid."

If I knew where you were, would I ask you "where are you"?

[quote author=tctrills post=119884586][/quote]You dodged the most important question in that post

[quote author=tctrills post=119884586][/quote]You dodged the most important question in that post

MaxInDHouse:
It's about exaggeration nah!
JWs are people like you and i who have been in one shameful habit or another before they heard what convinced them about an organization of God's people so if they decide to join that isn't a guarantee that their former habits will vanish instantly, NO! Each will have to start fighting within himself or herself {Romans 7:15-25} how to leave it behind so as to fit in to the personality they're trying to build! Ephesians 4:22-24
But when churchgoers who were taught that it's automatic transformation as soon as they become Christians now see any JW fall back to his or her sinful flesh they will start to carry the story even add to it as if that's what the organization approves.

If you don't have JWs around you then you can't conclude yet remember as an atheist you don't believe in the existence of God because you never seen any but you have been HEARING people talking about God all around you!

How can the only true organization of god have members that are rapists? Aren't they supposed to be 'christ-like'?

MightySparrow:
If you know of any other way why not just try and have firsthand experience and let people rest on nairaland. As simple as that.
Experience, they say, is the best teacher.

I just told you my experience with supposed jazzman, but somehow u didn't read it. I even challenged a pastor. All scams.
By the way, there are 2m naira to be won, let your jazzmen know so they can win it

tctrills:
This is very different. It was the giver of life himself that chooses when and how to take away life.
So if I gave you my Play station for a while, would you tag me a bad person when I come to take it back?

The regular response christians give. When yhwh heals, he's a loving god. When he kills, he's just taking back what he gave.
But you conveniently forgot, he knows his creations would sin and knows the exact time they would sin, but he still went ahead to create them. In fact in the bibles confusion, it stated that god was searching for Adam and Eve in the garden of Eden. You mean an omniscient god can't figure out where his creatures were hiding?

oteneaaron:
Lol

Beating around the bush = your modus operandi.

The million dollar question he cannot answer -

Why will the only true religion be teaching LIES?

I confess. That response was MadMax at his. finest. Acutely ignoring the glaring question and chasing shadows

tctrills:
If you read the bible, you would learn that death comes to all men and all men would live again.
Why do you think the flood was a bad idea?

Right. Since death comes to all men, why not simply jump into a zoo filled with lions. Would even save your family funeral costs.
Oh, and why the flood was a bad idea? Why dont you stay under a swimming pool for 30 minutes. Lets see how you'll enjoy it

MightySparrow:
Good. I don't believe in those things either. Since others have suggested same things I suggest. While flexing your muscles on a blog and not at least try to verify by the nonsensical suggestions? Out of nonsense atimes something cogent could happen.
What do you think bro?

If you think the only way to verify voodoo is to physically assault an old man, then you need your brain examined. Imagine if you hear somebody slapping your grandfather? Thats plain idiocy! If i get stoned, I deserve it. Since you people said people can send jazz, why don't you send some to me

oteneaaron:
Raymond Franz was a bold man.

Even after becoming a Governing Member, he gave up all the pleasures that came with the position and he spoke the TRUTH to power.

Imagine all these evidences, and one fellow this thread is calling these their horrible LIES "wrong expectations".

The nerve!

I warned you about MadMax. Dude is plain legendary

advocatejare:
So if Jesus returned in 1914, who were you expecting again in 1975?

Jesus can return as many times as he wants. Its his world. Heck, he can even rent an apartment in JW Headquarters (Bethel House) and chill there

Courz:
No JW with their senses intact can come here to deny any of these. Why did they have to lie that they never made such False prophecy when their old publications have everything recorded? It is too late to lie. False Prophets as foretold by Jesus.

You obviously don't know a certain MadMax. That nigga can lie that he is not alive

tctrills:
Exactly, he knew and he still went ahead because he does what's best for mankind.
The question you need to ask is what is God's plan for mankind.
Does he want us to live in a bubble outside the influence of sin, pain or Satan?

Really? What was best for mankind was wiping out the whole world with the flood? Really?

tctrills:
God has all knowledge.

Fine.
So he knew Adam would fall for the tree if evil, but he still went ahead and planted it by him?
He knew the devil would deceive humanity but he still went ahead and created him?
Answer these 2 and I'll ask some more

MaxInDHouse:
You've said it all "You see NEWS"
When you hear people publicizing stories from far away lands against a religion but you have members of this same religion within your own neighbourhood yet such report is rare in their midst you should know that something is wrong nah!

Below are African pedophiles but how many are JWs?

1. So those news sources are carrying fake news, right?
2. What if I have no JWs around me?

MightySparrow:
I understand your standpoint. You want to know what a curse really is just travel to a village, any in your state. Look for an elderly person especially a herbalist and give a dirty slap. Or better still look for a place where they have taboos, try to do otherwise. You will have first hand experience of what a curse is. Experience is better than logic. I wish you success in your research bro. Godspeed.

I'm tired of all these 'go to a village and slap an old man' speech. Its retards that believe that kind of stuff.
Juju is created for control.
1. If juju does exist, many African countries wouldn't have been subdued and defeated by the whiteman who used only muskets(ancient guns). Despite the sheer number of those African armies and their witch doctors, the relatively fewer Whitemen invaded, killed and captured them, including the juju carvings. To those our ancestors those carvings were our gods and possessed great powers. To the white man, it was some good sculpture with nice designs. So those 'great and powerful' juju were carted away in dirty stinky cartons grin So much for powerful voodoo. Same scenario repeated itself in many African and African originated countries like Nigeria, South Africa, Haiti etc. Your Benin bronze head that was carved and revered by the ancient Edo Kingdom(revered til now to be the headquarters of witchcraft in Nigeria grin) were amongst artifacts stolen. This same Edo youre wanking yourself sore. Their God is useless grin
2. If actually juju exist, their owners would have been filthy rich. I mean all they have to do is teleport to CBN or many bank vaults, steal the money and get out. But nothing of such happens
3. James Randi, an ex-magician set up a challenge for any supernatural practitioner including pastors, shamans, psychics etc. Show us your power and cart away 1mil usd. Simple. Til he died, nobody showed up. Upon living in the US which is the hotbed of Pentecostal miracle workers, none dared come forward. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/One_Million_Dollar_Paranormal_Challenge
There was a similar challenge by a Nigerian atheist for 2m naira on Twitter but nobody showed up. Instead people were telling him to go to hinterlands. But its a challenge, he doesn't need to go anywhere. People go to shows like Nigeria got Talents etc and showcase what they got, the show doesn't go around looking for artistes or gymnasts. Even at that, the young man visited such hinterlands but came up empty. The problem about going to those juju priest shrines is that those venues are rigged out to perform the 'magic'
4. If you notice, with the ubiquity of cameras , yet no video exists of any pastor healing amputees. Nope. All you see are healed sickle cell, infertility etc, stuff we can't verify. Amputees are on the streets, with many of them in orthopedic hospitals in Igbobi, Enugu etc
5. If juju is valid, Africa would have won many sporting events. This world cup finals would have been played by African. But despite every juju they do, they end up not getting near the semi finals.
6. I have had 2 personal challenges with dudes here who claim to have supernatural powers. One said he heals the sick and a pastor, RoyalDiadems. Turns out he's a fake. He even threatened me with madness. I begged him to go ahead. Til now he disappeared and hasnt replied any of my prompts. Another is a supposed juju priest. I told him to make me mad or curse me. Same outcome, fake
So bro, no, I don't believe in those nonsense. But if you got proof, do let me know

tctrills:
Is there a difference between Yahweh and Yahweh omniscient?

No. I'm asking if Yahweh is omniscient(all-knowing)?

tctrills:
No he does not need to edit the bible. He has continued to reveal. Revelations did not end with the bible.
You should know that the bible is not just one book rather, it is a collection of God's revelations over a period of time.
God's revelations show the evolution in human society. To the first humans, the only commandment he gave was don't eat the fruit.
Then as man progressed, He continued to add laws and commandments cumulating in the ten commandments.
Then came Jesus Christ with more laws and commandments.
And when Jesus left, he promised to continue to teach through the Holy Ghost.

IMPORTANT QUESTION
Is your god Yahweh omniscient?

MaxInDHouse:
That group name was CODED!

The group name "CHRISTIANS" was adopted in Antioch when observers noticed the first century followers of Christ {Act 11:26} doing the works Jesus commissioned {Matthew 28:19-20; Act 1:8} but Jesus foretold that Satan will initiate his own agents right in the midst of true believers {Matthew 13:25} so what group name will they also claim if not "Christians"?

That's why JEHOVAH waited for almost 2,000 years so that after Satan's agents have polluted that group name then JEHOVAH began calling His loyal ones out from under Satan's blindfolded religionists {Revelations 18:4} the hidden name all false religions can't bear now is JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES! Isaiah 65:15

That's why Jesus is speedily separating us from them to the extent that everywhere you go all religionists on this planet keep talking about the one and only organization that's different in a unique way from all others {Matthew 5:13-16} so when you hear them maliciously saying evil things against us it's not that we claimed to be perfect but they can all see the difference between the groups of imperfect humans the one that's doing God's will and the rest that can't present any evidence of their good WORKS as a group! James 2:18-26

Where is evidence of the bolded?
And why do you think the devil hasn't 'polluted' this group again? All we see is news of these select group mol@sting kids. I mean verified news

emonkey:
Your comment is running tangent to the question.

That is Kobo, the Nairaland junkie, in a nutshell. Never talks about the matter. Always puffing on his kush

tctrills:
Like I told you, slavery was a universal practice at the time. There was nothing wrong with it.
God reveals himself to men according to the times. If you have read these verses a thousand years ago, they would have been perfectly ok to you. Why would you use the same measure to judge people who existed thousands of years ago. The commandments and revelations of God have always met the needs of the times.

Lol. So yhwh changes his commandments and laws according to the prevailing culture and society. So maybe yhwh should edit the Bible to reflect the current society and laws, so as 'to meet the needs of the times'. And then in 500 years or so, version 3.0 should be out

MaxInDHouse:
Isaiah 43:10; Hebrews 12:1

WE ARE JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES!

Lol. Max
I saw witnesses.
Anybody can claim to be called by yhwh and quote different parts of the Bible. Heck, I can commit murder and quote the Bible as back up

God2man2again:
Oh! Oh! @ Jaephoenix, your reply is like a typical nairaland on religious forum debunking and fighting the truth about the things of God.
You registered 15 yrs ago, and you are 3 months 15 days on line.
3 months out of 15yrs.
I should have known that you have been saying this thing with different monikers for 15yrs on line.

Whatever you say, it doesn't matter because some of your replies agreed with what I said and others disagreed.

I rest my case.

Thank you.

And the only defense to what I said is to drop the ultimate trash. What has my moniker, Nairaland age or online duration got to do with this discourse. Even if I have monikers, what's the importance of that to this? This defection is typical of theists when caught in a trap.
So what if I'm atheist. Prove me wrong or forever shut up. That is how y'all go around deceiving people in the name of miracles. I can't count the number of patients that have died after they have been convinced that they have been healed. From hypertensives to diabetes.
So, brother, take your delusions and scam and stuff it where the sun don't shine.
I'll continue to debunk y'all scams til you stop

MaxInDHouse:
Jehovah promised the Israelites so many things and fulfilled it but all that is none of my concern because it's from what He promised faithful people from other nations that i could benefit!

He promised to organize Jews who will go and teach people of other nations about Him! Zechariah 8:23
He promised that after these Jews have trained people from different races they will become preachers and teachers in their own lands and start helping honest hearted and sincere individuals also to join the one big and happy family of peace loving worshipers! Malachi 3:16
He promised that faithful people throughout the earth will be gathered together and perfect understanding will occur among them! Zephaniah 3:9
He promised that these people from different nationalities will use what they found in His words to teach themselves {Isaiah 2:2-3} and the result is they will resolve all their disparities among themselves, divert their resources into production of food and information materials, erase the making, buying, selling and usage of weapons among themselves and vow never to raise weapons against anyone again! Isaiah 2:4
He promised to continue passing timely information to His faithful and loyal ones so that while others are confused about their future and began using weapons to kill one another {Revelations 6:3-4} His own worshipers will have the same line of thought {John 17:22} and have LOVE among themselves! John 13:34-35


All these JEHOVAH is fulfilling throughout the earth today and no sincere individual can say he or she doesn't notice JWs doing this now.

Please ask worshipers of any other God to tell you what is their God has promised that's happening now!

Can you point out one verse, just one, that said the chosen people of god is JWs?

tctrills:
Wrong. Homosexuality is a sin so even if it's becoming trending does not make it right.
Again God made man the head of the family and Gave women their roles. I understand this is no longer trendy but it is still right.
Also, slavery was practiced in bible times all over the world. Yet, it was bible believing Christians that challenged and ultimately ended slavery. The bible is about progress. We learn that God does not reveal all his truths at once. So don't expect the bible to cover all topics. The works and revelations of God continues even after the bible.

The taking of female captives is encouraged by Moses in Numbers 31. After being instructed by Yahweh to take vengeance upon the Midianites, Moses tells the Israelites to kill the male children and nonvirgin females but take the young virgins for themselves

Misogynist quotes


1 Timothy 2:12 - "I do not permit a woman to teach or to exercise authority over a man; rather, she is to remain quiet."

Leviticus 15:20 : "And everything on which she lies during her menstrual impurity shall be unclean. Everything also on which she sits shall be unclean

Exodus 21:7-11
7 “If a man sells his daughter as a servant, she is not to go free as male servants do.



Nowhere in the Bible was slavery condemned. None.
Pro slavery quotes
Exodus 21:20-21
20 “Anyone who beats their male or female slave with a rod must be punished if the slave dies as a direct result,
21 but they are not to be punished if the slave recovers after a day or two, since the slave is their property

1 Timothy 6:1-2
1 All who are under the yoke of slavery should consider their masters worthy of full respect, so that God’s name and our teaching may not be slandered.
2 Those who have believing masters should not show them disrespect just because they are fellow believers. Instead, they should serve them even better because their masters are dear to them as fellow believers and are devoted to the welfare of their slaves. These are the things you are to teach and insist on

Titus 2:9-10
9 Teach slaves to be subject to their masters in everything, to try to please them, not to talk back to them,
10 and not to steal from them, but to show that they can be fully trusted, so that in every way they will make the teaching about God our Savior attractive

Ephesians 6:5
5 Slaves, obey your earthly masters with respect and fear, and with sincerity of heart, just as you would obey Christ

Colossians 3:22
22 Slaves, obey your earthly masters in everything; and do it, not only when their eye is on you and to curry their favor, but with sincerity of heart and reverence for the Lord

1 Timothy 6:1
1 All who are under the yoke of slavery should consider their masters worthy of full respect, so that God’s name and our teaching may not be slandered

1 Peter 2:18
18 Slaves, in reverent fear of God submit yourselves to your masters, not only to those who are good and considerate, but also to those who are harsh.

Your Bible even said to kill homosexuals. In as much as I dislike homosexuality, I won't let hands on them. But your all loving god, said to kill them.

I could go on all day, but if we were to abide by your Bible, we would be homophobic murderers

tctrills:
Yes books were removed. But these do not change the meaning. We can argue that it reduces the amount of information that would otherwise be available to us. But the central message remains.
Let's look at it like a biology textbook. You may remove the chapter on ecology and reproduction but it still remains a valid biology textbook. The information therein would still be accepted as correct biology.
True a lot has been changed in the bible but some of us continue to appreciate the value it continues to offer.

Do you know the Bible is misogynistic and homophobic? It degrades women, murders and encourages slavery