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Kholiwe:
Religious people and foolishness. Sleeping and waking up has nothing to do with your sky daddy.

My brother… I don tire

yemzone:
God brought me back to life when I almost died in the hospital. 🙏

Lol. Health workers working their ass out and bring this dude back, and he decides to praise a god somewhere that watched 6 million Jews slaughtered

Osesbrainwave:
Being alive to type this is a miracle on its own. The grace of going out and coming is an underated miracle. Be grateful

Which is enjoyed by billions of humans including those that cuss out your god. And some that dont even pray to him

ozonechrome:
Your post reminds me of matt 8:2 where the man said lord if you willing you can heal me. Jesus responded "If I'm willing??" .

You need to believe he can and thank him that he has.

I've had so many miracles in my life. So many.

Recently my Permanent residence was cancelled for some issues with my ex. God restored my residence which only he could do.

Lawyers told me my case wasn't winnable I should seek asylum but I know the God I serve and trusted him.

Now I'm applying for my citizenship. It was a tough time in my life but I knew he could do it and he did.

Trust him with that situation.

God gave me a job when they said I wasn't qualified when i first migrated. It's been the perfect job for me.

It may seem impossible but remember that's when he shows himself best so he can glorify himself.

He makes all things beautiful in his time.

God can! God will! Trust him.

1. Which god are you referring to?
2. Hope you know if this qualifies as a miracle then Buddhists, Muslims, Atheists all benefit from your god. So you aint your god's favorite

Pimine:
Are you daft? It's unlikely to happen but if by some slim chance it does happen, then it's a miracle. How hard is that to understand abi you just like to argue?

So who performed the miracle, smartass?

orisa37:
I AM TALKING ABOUT DMITRI MEDVEDEV RUSSIA PRESIDENT 2008-2012 AND PRIME MINISTER 2012-2020. BORN 14/9/65.

Medvedev is his own man in another significant way. Unlike many of his predecessors, this Russian leader has publicly declared his faith.

He was baptized a Russian Orthodox Christian when he was 23 years old.

Asked why he embraced religion when he was raised in a secular nation, Medvedev replied that he "needed it."

"Why do people go to church?" he said. "They come because they feel a need, except if they're sightseeing. So at 23 I felt I needed it. I believe it's good for me, because afterwards my life changed.

"You don't really talk aloud about something like that because the religious feelings should be somewhere deep inside of you. If someone is displaying it, it's not really honest. It's more PR for yourself. But I believe religion is important for every person."

Source https://www.google.com/amp/s/abcnews.go.com/amp/GMA/russian-president-dmitry-medvedev-religion-music-rise-power/story%3fid=10357338

During a visit to Serbia, Medvedev received the highest award of the Serbian Orthodox Church, the Order of St. Sava, for "his contribution to the unity of the world Orthodoxy and his love to the Serbian people"

Source https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dmitry_Medvedev

Bro, I hate to break this to you, but you need to collect every single dime you paid as school fees

Dtruthspeaker:
Your evil brother Reed exactly raised this is and I answered him and he could not continue after that! So you wasted your time. Repeating yourself and repeating him No Road!

And hey lying devil, KJV said "bondsmen and bondsmaid" not slaves. You still used your devil Bible

Besides, bondsman is ancient name for slave

Dtruthspeaker:
Says the one who has no valid thing to say.



God is A Lawyer and He knows the importance of precision in Law and Law giving, hence He knows the difference between may and shall.



And I showed you that you are using Satan's Bible. God's Bible Said "servants" so you are in a different place.

And the fact that you are repeating yourself just proves how you have nothing to say.

… another instance you said Satan writes Bible. Many more instances you said the devil writes the Bible.
Liar liar pants on fire 🔥

Dtruthspeaker:
That is your Satan's replication of a Bible. The correct Bible said "servants obey your masters..."

This is you saying Satan wrote a Bible.
I'll pull up some more…

Dtruthspeaker:
Mad devil, your crooked change of post will not work.

I told you charity must begin at home (hebrew) and you stupidly asked



Now I have answered you and now you are changing post!

Mad man, NO ROAD!

Again where did the verses answer my question? For the avoidance of doubt, I asked where the bible said non-Hebrew slaves should be freed?

Dtruthspeaker:
Your evil brother Reed exactly raised this is and I answered him and he could not continue after that! So you wasted your time. Repeating yourself and repeating him No Road!

And hey lying devil, KJV said "bondsmen and bondsmaid" not slaves. You still used your devil Bible

You said KJV which means King James Version.
Please of the versions is KJV

Dtruthspeaker:
Obviously your madness has returned if not you would have seen that you were the mad one who said



Your madness has surely returned and that is because your head has knocked since you have been struggling to find something valid to say but you can not!

Bro you first said Satan wrote the verses. I'm merely echoing what you said

Dtruthspeaker:
Who does not know that thou shalt not kill means do not kill who is innocent and righteous?

And to clear the doubt for mad people He went on Say "the innocent and righteous slay thou not:"

Meaning murderers and adulterers and witches and evil children can be kllled. If only Isreal had obeyed the world would have been very very sweet and not been dying.

You're adding to the gospel, your punishment awaits you.
You wish you can kill us abi? No worry

Dtruthspeaker:
Romans 1:16; Luke 24:47; Romans 2:9.

Everything whether good or bad starts with Hebrews first.

Romans 1:16
For I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ: for it is the power of God unto salvation to every one that believeth; to the Jew first, and also to the Greek.

Luke 24:47
And that repentance and remission of sins should be preached in his name among all nations, beginning at Jerusalem.

Romans 2:9.
There will be tribulation and distress for every soul of mankind who does evil, for the Jew first and also for the Greek,

What has these verses got to do with non Hebrews getting set free?
Do you think we're your regular cretarded theists you meet?

Dtruthspeaker:
KJV

Right…

Here you go…

Leviticus 25:44-46
King James Version
And as for your male and female slaves whom you may have—from the nations that are around you, from them you may buy male and female slaves

LordReed make I borrow your laugh small…
Bwahahahahahahaha

Dtruthspeaker:
You are just repeating yourself. I told you charity begins at home/remove the log in my eye and

So Hebrews must first be freed before others can follow.

Where was it instructed 'others can follow'
Lol

Dtruthspeaker:
Is there anything in this world that is good that does not have its opposite evil replica?

You don't have anything to say.

So which specific versions of the Bible are Yahweh written? Can you list them, lemme check them out

Dtruthspeaker:
Says the one who has no valid thing to say.



God is A Lawyer and He knows the importance of precision in Law and Law giving, hence He knows the difference between may and shall.



And I showed you that you are using Satan's Bible. God's Bible Said "servants" so you are in a different place.

And the fact that you are repeating yourself just proves how you have nothing to say.

Ah yes, Dtruthspeaker now believes Satan wrote KJV. Bro do you know this Satanic Bible is where these translations you quoted copied from? Newer versions like Living Bible etc all got theirs from KJV which was an official Bible at point, before many versions changed many things there to appear 'modern' and 'normal'. So you're quoting from Satanic verses
Oh my days

Dtruthspeaker:
And none of these said "and take slaves" or "I command you to take slaves".

That is a commandment of yahweh and he simply means 'take as slaves'.

I have already explained all these above so, you people have no thing.

Lol, its pathetic trying to find a wiggle room in this argument. Dude is now clutching at imaginary straws. Hahahahahahaha

Dtruthspeaker:
You are the one who is an insane person else you would have seen and known that I said your analogy failed to meet the case..

Read my analogy, it fits the case. The friend did not castigate the abuser. Neither did your yahweh castigate slavery

Dtruthspeaker:
As I always say, no one will kill mama snake and leave her children. No one will find and kill father bandit and kidnapper like Kachalla Baleri (https://www.nairaland.com/7551889/bandit-leader-kachalla-baleri-flaunts#120578722) and leave his children alive.

And thou shalt not kill means "thou shalt not kill the innocent and the righteous"

Exodus 23:7
Keep thee far from a false matter; and the innocent and righteous slay thou not:

Which is we have have The Law of death penalty.



It said "love your neighbour" enslaving your neighbour is not loving your neighbour.

It said "ye shall not afflict ...a fatherless child". slavery is an affliction.

It said, Thou shalt not follow a multitude to do evil:". Slavery is an evil.

So you see you people have no thing.

The commandment states Thou shalt not kill.
Full stop. Don't add or subtract anything. Remember the storybook says a curse awaits anyone adding or subtracting

Dtruthspeaker:
The part of knowing that that permanency is subject to the full will and discretion of the master. Thus, the master at anytime can bid the servant go.

But as we have even seen some masters have been so good that the servant became a part of the family and even got put in his master's will.



Shifting the burden of proof to me will not work for I have already shown you where God Said all slaves must be freed

And so the burden is on you, which is why you are replied that it was only Hebrew slaves, to which I replied your reply by saying because, charity must first begin at home (remove the log in our eye first).

So thus, all these is a change of post and deviation from post.

No Road

Exodus 21
1
"These are the laws you are to set before them:
2
"If you buy a Hebrew slave, he is to serve you for six years. But in the seventh year, he shall go free, without paying anything.
3
From The above it says Hebrew, not everyone.

I thought lying was condemned in your storybook, and Satan is the father of liars. So you behave like your father

Dtruthspeaker:
That is your Satan's replication of a Bible. The correct Bible said "servants obey your masters..."

So Satan is now writing bibles?
Satan also wrote King James, NIV, Amplified etc and other major versions. Hope you know the earlier version of the Bible was KJV and it bore 'slave'. Many versions copied KJV and switched it to 'servant'
Hebrew word: ‘ebed (also transliterated as ‘eved). It is commonly translated 'slave' in English, and that is what is used in the Bible.

Lol

Dtruthspeaker:
"May have" already tells you. Not a "shall have".

And this statement also shows you that they had no boundaries in enslaving. Anyone could be enslaved.

So of course this the first step of removing slavery which is by removing the log in their own eye first, hence why I told you "of the Hebrew first".

The children of the house must be the first to be free.

And as you can see by the time of the judges, you do not see any slave in Isreal whether of Hebrew or of other nations.

Lol. This guy loves clutching at useless straws
So your problem has boiled down to modal verbs. So because Yahweh used may instead of shall, then the Israelites shouldn't obey the instructions.
@ the bolded, in trying to dig your Yahweh out, you now dig your own grave
And no slavery wasn't removed in the bible, in fact even in the New Testament, slavery was upheld as shown by the verses I posted

orisa37:
I MEAN MEDVEDEV.
PUTIN HAS THE DNA OF HIS ATHEIST FATHER.
THAT'S WHY PUTIN IS SUFFERING FROM JESUSPHOBIA(JEHOPHOBIA).

What Is Daniil Medvedev Religion?
Daniil Medvedev’s religion is Christianity. Daniil Medvedev is a Russian professional men’s tennis player.

On February 11, 1996, he was born in Moscow, Russia’s capital and largest city. On March 15, 2021, the right-handed tennis sensation achieved a career-high ranking of World No.2.

Medvedev has two older sisters, Julia and Elena, who are 12 and 8 years his senior.

His mother noticed an advertisement for group tennis lessons at the pool where he took swimming lessons when he was six years old.

Aside from sports, Daniil’s other childhood interests included harpsichord and guitar lessons.

Source https://www.zgr.net/en/wiki/what-is-daniil-medvedev-religion-details-about-his-parents-ethnicity/

And if you could read properly, you'll see in that article I posted on Putin that he said specifically he's a Russian Orthodox Church and he still wears his church pendant his mom gave him. Do you think an atheist would wear it?


Putin Personal Faith

Putin has been keen to present himself as a man of serious personal faith. This is a trend that has seemed to become more pronounced throughout his time in office. Cynics suggest that the increasingly confident assertion of faith is part of a broader trend of seeking a nationalist agenda as economic performance declined. However, even relatively early in his presidency Putin had spoken at times about his faith and had already formed an apparently close bond with certain members of the clergy in the early 2000s, when his popularity was at its peak.

In early meetings with then US President George Bush, Putin certainly made much of his personal faith, showing off the small aluminium cross that he wore round his neck and making much of his Christian commitment. Bush was by all accounts certainly impressed – relating the account of the meeting in his book Decision Points.[xiv] Bush, of course, was famous for his own evangelical faith and it is entirely possible that Putin emphasised this precisely to win a friend in the US president. However, the story of this little baptismal cross is one which Putin has highlighted on several occasions and figures prominently in a passage from the biography


Source https://www.theosthinktank.co.uk/comment/2022/02/16/essay-on-vladimir-putin

Once more, stop this display of ignorance. Anytime I log on to Nairaland, I'm always educating some theist on stuff that is common knowledge. Why is religion so anti-knowledge?

Dtruthspeaker:
Where did He say "and take slaves"?

Leviticus 25:44-46
New International Version
44 “‘Your male and female slaves are to come from the nations around you; from them you may buy slaves. 45 You may also buy some of the temporary residents living among you and members of their clans born in your country, and they will become your property. 46 You can bequeath them to your children as inherited property and can make them slaves for life, but you must not rule over your fellow Israelites ruthlessly.

There are at least seven passages in the Bible where God is depicted as directly permitting or endorsing slavery. Two of these are in the Law of Moses: God permitted the Israelites to take slaves from conquered peoples permanently, and the Israelites could sell themselves into slavery temporarily to pay off debts (Exod 21:2-11; Lev 25:44-46). The other five passages are in the New Testament, where slavery as a social institution is endorsed and slaves are called to obey their masters “in everything” (Eph 6:5-9; Col 3:22-4:1; 1 Tim 6:1-2; Tit 2:9-10; 1 Pet 2:18-20).

But slavery is viewed positively in Scripture well beyond these commands. Owning slaves was seen as a sign of God’s blessing (Gen 12:16; 24:35; Isa 14:1-2), and there are literally dozens of passages in the Bible that speak of slavery in passing, without comment. Slavery was simply part of life, and most people saw it as just the way things always were, even the divinely ordained order of things. And yes, in case there is any doubt, this was real slavery: “the slave is the owner’s property” (Exod 21:21). Both Old and New Testaments called for better treatment of slaves than many of the peoples around them, and the Law of Moses in particular called for better treatment of fellow Israelites as slaves. But slaves could be beaten (Exod 21:20-21; 1 Pet 2:18-20), and slaves could be taken as concubines (Gen 16:3-4; Exod 21:8-11) or even raped without serious consequence (Lev 19:20-22).

These passages are all pretty straightforward. One could even say that the Bible is clear on this: the institution of slavery is permitted by God, endorsed by God, and owning slaves can even be a sign of God’s blessing.

Dtruthspeaker:
As I always say, your imbecility does not make you see that this case does not apply.

Judah's daughter in law was in an abusive relationship and God struck down the husbands.

So, devil, you don't have any thing.

You really have problems in English language. At least I know you aren't in secondary school and any adult knows what an analogy means. Except DTruthSpeaker
SMH

orisa37:
YES.
WITH SOLOMON AND JESUS CHRIST THE RIGHTEOUS, THE WAY THE TRUTH AND THE LIFE , WE ALL NEED GOD.

What do you need god for exactly?

MaxInDHouse:
You have answered the question but you only followed what was written in the Bible to give your answer just as a mathematician who gave the answer his teacher told him without knowing how to work out the solution in a practical sense!

We need God for just one thing: the PEACE that surpasses all understanding!

Paul told first century Christians in Philipi:

and the PEACE of God that surpasses all understanding will guard your hearts and your mental powers by means of Christ Jesus Philippians 4:7

And through whom can anyone have this type of PEACE?

Jesus said:

I leave you peace; I give you my peace. I do not give it to you the way that the world gives it. Do not let your hearts be troubled nor let them shrink out of fear. John 14:27

Now listen to the sacred secret!

Right from the garden of Eden Satan has won the heart of majority of mankind he is their choice as ruler so it's his system of rule that majority of mankind prefer rather than God's system of rule. That's why the scriptures say Satan is the prince of the world {John 14:30} he offered Jesus a chance to rule the world with him {Luke 4:5-7} but Jesus rejected Satan's system of rule {John 6:15} that's why Paul could refer to Satan as the god of this world {2Corinthians 4:4} and John called Satan the evil one in whose hands the whole world lies! 1John 5:19

Anyone looking at politics for the solution to mankind's problems today can't have a rest of mind because disappointments will always come from all sides but whoever rely on what Jesus taught us about God's Kingdom will have a hope of a brighter future knowing fully well that Jesus has conquered {John 16:33} and that sooner he's coming to take over the kingdom (government) of this world! Daniel 2:44; Matthew 6:10

That is the only way to real PEACE, all those anticipating a better condition through politics will continue to experience grief! Luke 21:25

So if you want the real PEACE find the true Christians (Jehovah's Witnesses) today and let us teach you how we are always relaxed no matter what happens in the world under Satan's control! John 12:31

How many kids have you molested this year

Tboy222:


He owns your soul , your body, your life , yhe air you breathe, the food , air and water you consume, he owns your brain, and the whole universe, what exactly did you own and what exactly does God owes you.

No, Allah owns them

Penwielder:
There're so many people today that are following God only because of what they think they can get from Him. They tithe because they've been taught that that it is a money-doubling secret. They pray and fast and engage in all manner of spiritual exercises with the hope that that would make God notice them and bless them.

I hate to put cats among your pigeons, but if success as the world defines it is what you're indirectly following God for, you're doing the "wrongest" thing. It's better, much more easier to be successful in terms of gaining wealth and fame when you do it on your own than when you try to use God.

The holy scriptures tells us that after God had banished Cain from His presence for murdering his brother, he went out and built a city. Get this. He didn't just build a house or an estate; we were told he built an entire city. God cast him away, and yet he was able to accomplish such a mighty feat_he was able to birth and pioneer a city. That means there're so many things you can do without God. (Oh my God, did that shake some of your dear religious beliefs?)

Some of us don't realize the powers we have in ourselves; we don't know how much we can do if we're determined. And that's why we think we need God to be successful (please understand that the context of success here is material.) There're so many atheists, people who do not acknowledge the existence of God and who do not worship or pray to Him, who are proudly successful; they are owners of large empires, and the very people that fear and call upon the name of the Lord work under these men. So you see that serving God isn't a means of becoming successful. In fact, with God it's even more difficult, because God will make many demands of you. There're so many things He will ask you not to do, so many restrictions and limitations He will place on you.

So our service of God shouldn't be because we want Him to help us become successful according to the standards of men. Our service of God should be based on the fact that it is mandatory. That's the whole essence of our existence; that's why we were created. So serving God is all about fulfilling the purpose for which we have been created and not about using God to give us what we think we need.

I beseech you therefore to search your hearts and set your priorities right. Your need for God shouldn't be tied to what you can get from Him. Your need for Him should be founded on the ground that you were made for this sole purpose: to do His bidding. If you won't serve God genuinely, it'll be much better you go solo because you have more chances of succeeding that way. But be rest assured that all you can achieve outside and without God will only amount to nothing, and peace and fulfilment will elude you. You can indeed be successful without God, but you need God to find that peace that comes only by fulfilling purpose.

Rooting for you.
J. Ebute (Penwielder)

So what's the use of 'god'?

orisa37:
ATHEISTS DON'T KNOW NOTHING.

What do theists know?