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MaxInDHouse:
All His promises except the once i listed which will be global and all those living will benefit!

Bro Max, please be specific about the promises fulfilled

God2man2again:
@ Jaephoenix, thank you for these questions.
Nobody paid me about promoting my church, I have been a member of MFM for more than 2 decades now. I am a volunteer for JESUS.

Through research and continous prayers and testimonies from members, I recently discovered that some MFM prayers are not ordinary prayers, they are actually vomited by the holy ghost, I didn't know this before but after sometime, I came to the conclusion that MFM prayers are surgical prayers that go deep. That worked mysteriously even beyond your imagination, all these are pointer to the fact that God is truly in MFM.

Now, concerning the white people, I told you to meticulously search for the message on YouTube, perhaps, if you had listened to the testimony of the GO about the white man who wanted to commit suicide but the wife brought him to the GO for prayers, in the spirit realm, a man in white garment opened his head as if you open a sardine Can and removed a rope from his brain, immediately, the thought of killing himself stopped. The wife complained that the father also committed suicide, it is in their blood.
Come to think of it, there are 3 major problems with the white, Divorce cases, ailments like cancer, diabetes are very common and Murder in various forms. They may be rich and comfortable but they have issues, if you know what I mean.
Curses are everywhere, they are part of life. Irrespective of the color, white or black.

Deborah story is available on the Facebook to read or watch for yourself so that you can judge. I have told you to do that already. Find time to that please, conscience or fear, whatever, the woman had issued the curse and I have explained the meaning of curse.

What are you trying to prove?
Apart from curses, don't you know that there is power in tongues, in your mouth.
Death and life are in the power of the tongue.
The most powerful weapon on earth is the tongue. Ask the elders.


Why won't we talk about science?
Scientific evidence are there for us to authenticate the fact about the blood.
We exist by the blood, there is life in the blood. Without the blood, the person is dead. Why do kids look like their fathers or mothers?
It is in the genes, you cannot
run away from your family bloodline.
There is high tendency to inherit from your father some of his good character or bad behavior. Blood smells.
One way or the other, you look like your father or like a member of your family.
That is how family tree is established.
Due to blood groups or genotype.
AA marry SS - AS
AS + AS- SS or AA
And so on like that.

Inside the Gene, you will found traces of resemblance from your father or mother and ultimately, you inherit their success or failures, unless you break the curse.

Thank you.

I have never read such a clusterfuck of bullshit in one piece before
1. About those miracles, they are all hearsays and anecdotes. No proofs. They may be staged by your head pastors or lies by the members to gain recognition. I need proofs. We have been telling you guys since time immemorial. WE NEED PROOFS. NOT TESTIMONIES BY YOUR MEMBERS THAT CANNOT BE VERIFIED. Alternatively, I can tell you to heal some of my patients. And please don't tell me to invite them to your church. Just speak the word. After all Jesus spoke and it came to pass, so why won't yall do the same. He said y'all would do greater works. The testimonies y'all parrot in your church are trumped up, go to the hospitals. How many pastors and MOGs are healing in hospitals? Nil. None. Because its all staged. Hospitals are where the real sick people are.
2. This story of the white man cannot be verified. They may be staged. Learn how evidence works.
Mental illnesses may be hereditary ,like schizophrenia and suicide also.
Divorce rates are higher in western countries because of their beliefs. Their women believe in gender equality and this belief is relatively very uncommon in Africa. Recently, it is picking up more interest in Africa, thus the rising rates of divorce. Women used to endure whatever they get in marriages in Africa. Not anymore. So get your facts right.
About diseases, I hate to break it to you but cancers, and familial diseases like diabetes mellitus, hypertension are not white man's disease. In fact, hypertension is more rampant in black people than white people. Some diseases are more predominant in black races and rare in whites, like fibroid. They have more random in the African gene. Diseases like tuberculosis, malaria, HIV, Ebola, Lassa etc are more random in Africa because of our peculiarly poor healthcare systems and beliefs.
About cancers, more bad news for you. Black people are at the highest risk for cancer death even though White people have the highest rate of new cancers. This increased mortality risk partly reflects a later stage of disease at diagnosis among Black patients, although Black patients additionally have lower stage-specific survival for most cancer types. And they present late because they usually go to herbalists, juju priests and pastors, before they eventually show up in the hospital. This is unlike the average White man that shows up immediately they have symptoms.
The causes of these diseases have been linked to diets and lifestyles and not any curses
So bro, I don't see any curse here.
3. Bro, there's no power in the tongue, I'm afraid. Its just like any other organ in the body. Gets its regular blood and nerve supplies from the heart and brain, respectively. Used for mastication and speech(and head ). African-american call their kids impressive names like President, Senator, GodWin etc. I have also seen people whose parents named them Amazing-Grace, Miracle-God etc turn out to be broke, sickly etc. Their parents made pronunciations and 'prophesied' all the good stuffs into their lives. Did their names and prophecies work for them? Hell, no! Some even die as kids.
I have seen white man name their kids Sandy, Rocky, Brandy etc. Quite unimpressive and 'Ungodly names. They didn't pronounce riches, intelligence etc during their naming ceremonies, but they turn out fine, way better than their african counterparts.
I tell people like you with this mentality of 'power in the tongue' to shout "I'll be the richest man in the world" 100 times a day and see if you'll get a dime. Did you think Gates, Musk etc became rich by shouting that they’ll be rich everyday? Matter of fact, they are irreligious folks.
4. Yes kids look like their parents because their genes code proteins which control how their hair grow, hips, height etc. And those genes came from parents. And no, you don't inherit bad character, success, failure etc. Those are gotten from factors like peers, environment etc. Haven't you seen where a man inherits wealth and squanders it? Did he inherit his parents success? Or you haven't seen professors that gave birth to dunces and never do wells?
So bro, my advice. Don't learn biology or any science from your pastors. They are ignorant. And you'll be one if you do.
Have a nice day

MaxInDHouse:
Good!
It's not only Allah that promised it's worshipers many other Gods of the nations also promised their worshipers.
So back your question:
Why believe (trust) in Jehovah's promises and ignore all other Gods?

You have many friends, right?
If they're all making promises is it reasonable to trust (believe) in the ones who has never fulfilled any of their promises when there's one particular friend of yours who always keep to his words?
Why should you doubt the only friend who has never failed in fulfilling any of his promises and most especially when there's no hope?

So how many of yhwh's promises has he fulfilled?

MaxInDHouse:
My response to your question is not meant for only you but for interested followers of my thread so if you like don't even read through talkless meditating on the quoted scriptures, deserving ones will read, study, meditate and pray so as to grasp it for their own personal benefits! John 8:32

Promise of everlasting life!

©The dead will be called back to life ~Job 14:13-15 compare to John 5:28-29

© Paradise on a peaceful earth with no evildoers ~ Psalms 37:7-9, 29

© Wicked people will be removed for good on planet earth ~ Proverbs 2:20-22

© We will build houses of our taste and live as long as we desire ~ Isaiah 65:21-23

© Oldage will be no more and we will forever remain youthful ~ Job 33:25

© Death will be no more ~ Isaiah 25:8; Revelations 21:3-5

Do you want more?

Allah gave his goons similar promises. Why should I believe this one and ignore Allah's ?

MaxInDHouse:
Hmmm you're far away due to your long time with false religions!

To illustrate, let's say you're in a country where a good man is distributing what is for the benefit of the general public, do you expect him to be partial in the distribution? Matthew 5:45

But then if this distributor now has a special plan in secret for only his friends {Psalms 37:7-11, 29} and you know about this secret plan won't you like to get closer to him than others who don't know his secret plans?

Well true Christians aren't praying because of what is available for both the good and evil {Matthew 6:19-21} naaaaaaaaaaaaa we are building a personal relationship with God who promised everlasting life for only His friends. John 3:16

Do you now understand?

Now the next step in this dance….
Where did you get this promise?
Please quote a related Bible verse. Not these random verses you pull outta your anus and dumped on me

MaxInDHouse:
And i've answered you:

so that you may prove yourselves sons of your Father who is in the heavens, since he makes his sun rise on both the wicked and the good and makes it rain on both the righteous and the unrighteous. Matthew 5:45

Miracles aren't meant only for the righteous!

I was expecting this. And you jumped right into my trap.
Oh good, miracles aint for the righteous alone, right?
Everything you're praying for is gotten by atheists who don't utter a word of prayer, hell, they even curse your god. So why do you theists pray?

Lets assume the universe was created. There was absolutely nothing in that article that stated why his/her god is actually the right one. None. It could be god or gods.
The post practically dodged the talking about the Bible.
The christian faith is centred on gospel of Jesus and Jewish history as narrated in the bible. The account of Jesus's life and all his theological teachings stem directly from the Genesis creation narrative, Noah flood, Israelite exodus, and Babylonia exile down to the birth of the so called messiah. But since it is found that many of the accounts have no basis in history, how come Christians still hold onto their faith? In the face of reality, vividly exposing that the accounts and narratives from Genesis till the end is fiction, and the characters captured in the entire bible are legends, on what exactly are Christians rooting their faith? Are Christians really trusting on folktales to bring them heaven/paradise they hope for?

The bible accounts, as interesting as it sound have no single basis in history. The creation story, many churches have accepted that it is metaphoric or philosophical which shouldn't be taken as happening at a historic time or place. The catholic and many Christian denominations admitted that the story of Adam and Eve is more allegorical, specially designed for theological purposes, without any basis in history. The Noah and the global flooding account too have no basis in history. Up till this moment, not a single shred of evidence have been found to buttress there was any global flooding on this planet. The global flooding and ark narration have so many parallels which further exposes the mythical nature of the account, having no basis in history. Up till date, no single shred of evidence have been presented that Noah or his Ark existed.

One of the story I loved back then as a child is the Exodus. The account detail Israelis enslavement in Egypt, emancipation by Moses, sojourn through the wilderness and the military campaign that rounded up Canaan. Findings have shown that the whole Exodus is pure work of fiction, not having any fact. There is no Moses, Israelite were never in or enslaved in Egypt, Pharaoh and his people were not plagued by any Yahweh, the Red sea was not parted, the wildernesses sojourn have no basis in history, and Canaan was not overran by Israel military forces. Archaeological evidence revealed that all the accounts about Israel in the bible is myth.

The monarchy reign of David and Solomon in the United kingdom of Israel is all false. Archaeological findings expose that Israel is a small clan in Canaan, having no king. There is no evidence or traces of the Solomon temple. The captivity by Babylon is more reconstructions of facts though. However, the bible rather provides half truth laced with propaganda which makes the whole account unacceptable as historical fact.

The Jesus account is majorly work of fiction. While many would argue that there is a historical personality known as Jesus as recorded by Apostle Paul, Gospels, and non Christian sources like Josephus and Tacitus, the fact remains that these are not eye witness account which can easily be dismissed. The earliest manuscript that recorded the person of Jesus is written somewhere around 60yrs after Jesus crucifixion. The gospel of Matthew, Luke and John all copied from accounts in the book of Mark. The authorship of the gospel of Mark is a subject if debate. However, the general consensus among the scholars is that whoever wrote the gospel of Mark is not providing an eye witness account but simply relaying heavily distorted traditions.

The Zombies invasion and the wingless ascension of Jesus is a popular incidence which would supposedly be witnessed by many people, but no one expect in the gospels wrote about it. Josephus and Tacitus mentioned that a person called Jesus or Christ but left out the major events recorded in the gospel. Josephus original writings has not been found, and scholars argued that the word 'Jesus' found in the Testimonium Flavianum is Christian interpolation. Tacitus was born 25yrs after the death of Jesus. None of this writings provided an eye witness account. They are majorly tradition with no factual basis.

The gospels have loads of inconsistency and contradictions. Apostle Paul admitted he learned the creed. As a matter of fact, Paul's sister and nephew were converted Christians before he converted. He also confessed he met with James and Peter for days, many years after his conversion. So it is nothing new, Paul converted base on tradition he was told to.

At a point, Paul questioned the basis of his faith, exactly what I wanted Christians to do. Apostle Paul, who didn't met Jesus or witnessed his death queried if Jesus truly died and resurrected. He questioned the historicity of Jesus crucifixion, noting with doubt that his faith and missionary job is in vain if peradventure there is no Jesus that died and resurrected. The inquiry furthermore buttressed that Paul only knew the traditional story of Jesus, and not the historical fact. Reason he added that one should find and stick to truth only.

My questions to people who are Christians, how do you keep onto faith knowing that all the narration recorded in the bible have no basis in history? Where exactly is the confidence of hope drawn from knowing that the Bible stories are fables having no substances in history? How can you strongly trust that a Jesus who never exist as accounted would take you to heaven/paradise? What is the basis of your faith; historical fairies or historical facts?

This is one hell of a load of bullshit

MaxInDHouse:
You know atheists don't even believe in miracles so there's no need calling them here!

You lack comprehension skills.
I said 'But what about those who don't believe in yhwh and don't give nada, how come they sleep and wake up in peace, and with even better health than us?'
Its atheists that don't believe in yhwh, don't give offerings/tithes but still have life and good health.
Learn to read properly

MaxInDHouse:
Underlined is a lie, you can't hear such among JWs.
Highlighted: miracles aren't just for the good but for all those alive! Matthew 5:45

You're free to ask any question!

I wasn't referring to you cursed lots, I'm talking about atheists

MightySparrow:
You are just a blind critic then. Just read the history and the contemporary life of the nation of Israel with your Bible and world history. You will understand. But for a lazy critic nothing will suffice.

A critic does his job with a mind to make a concept credible. In your case, you posited a point, but when asked for evidence you have been squirming and whining for days, and pointing me to go look for evidence for you. C'mon bro. Both of us know you got no evidence. Someone pulls out stuff from his anus and dumps it on you and you believe it without a shred of evidence

MaxInDHouse:
Ọmọ many things happens but because we're able to explain you won't accept it as miracles but to me it's all miracles!

Of course you'll continue in your wilful ignorance. Of course you'll have to god-of-the-gap your way to prove your religion. Of course that is the regular theistic phrase you hear everyday in church, "The fact you slept and woke up is because of god. And he needs your money to continue such miracles"
None of the sheeple has asked, "But what about those who don't believe in yhwh and don't give nada, how come they sleep and wake up in peace, and with even better health than us?"
Nah, their minds have been preconditioned not to ask questions.

MaxInDHouse:
MIRACLE is what we can't explain but once we can explain how it happened humans no longer see it as miracles.
So stop deceiving yourself even your typing on that device in your hands is a miracle!

Lol. Trying to muddy the waters when beaten, Max? Same ol trick you employ everyday

MaxInDHouse:
What do you understand by that word "MIRACLE"

Now this is the definition of a miracle from an official source.

A miracle is an event that is inexplicable by natural or scientific laws and accordingly gets attributed to some supernatural or praeternatural cause.

Now, the question is, does science explain the phenomenon? Yes, it does.
Is it a miracle then? No, it isn't.
What you are doing(god-of-the-gap) is a regular pastime for people back in those days like 17th and 18th century folks. They believed lightning, flood, drought, epidemics, miscarriages, misfortunes etc were caused by the gods, and thus committed murders in the name of sacrifices, appeasing these gods. Now these gods were known by different names, depending on locations. Horus, Zeus, Huītzilōpōchtli, Thor etc. I can't say they were ignorant, because these information we have available now, wasn't then. But in your own case, these information are readily available, but you still decided to choose wilful ignorance and declined to educate yourself, and still gleefully god-of-the-gapping yourself to stupor.
And to imagine you claim to be an Intelligence officer… interesting

MaxInDHouse:
Hmmmmmmm, well some times our thinking differ because i detest old age, i always pity old people due to the compulsory restrictions that you cannot reject!

Right. Everyone have their choices. You got yours. I got mine

Kobojunkie:
1. All this here does is confirm that Olukoya is nothing but a Babalawo who uses the name of God to sell his trade, given that absolutely none of what is what you stated here correlates with what is presented in scripture.

2. God is the one who introduced generational curses on Israel in His Law of Moses which is the National Constitution of the State of Israel in the land of Canaan. And when God began cursing and kicking Israel out of the Land, He retracted that curse by using His name to swear that never again will such be found among His Israel - Ezekiel 18 vs 1 - 36. So, your Olukoya who tells you a lot that men have the power to curse you all and that generational curses still exist does not only deny God but spits in the face of God by his assertions that what he proclaims is linked to God of Israel.

3. Also, your claims regarding Reuben's curse are a lie. Yes, his father cursed him but there is no evidence in scripture that amounted to anything other than words out of his father's mouth, and understandably since God is the one who chose Israel for Himself, not Israel the man.

4. Jesus Christ did state that the blind will fall into the same ditch that their blind leaders - Matthew 15 vs 14 - will fall into and clearly this explains why most everything out of your mouth rings of Pagan ideas and nothing of that which is of God.

How legit is your Bible?

Aemmyjah:
It takes greater 'faith' (gullible ones) to believe in evolution than to believe in God
Our faith in God is based on reality and our power of reason
Theirs is based on speculation from so called intelligent men who claim to be wise when they are actually foolish

Yeah right. Ask him to provide evidence, and the dance starts

MaxInDHouse:
Even their evolution theory should be a miracle if it's true so they're deceiving themselves!

Facepalm!
How is it a miracle?
I would like to know the institution your friend got his 'biology' degree from

Aemmyjah:
An Ape that works in a hospital can not conclude that even the development of a child in the womb from conception to delivery is a miracle

Again, palpable ignorance by these theists. And some people paid school fees for your education? Awful
Embryology is the branch of science for the study of the development of the fetus, right from the fertilization stage, through the morula to blastocyst, and eventually to the full grown baby we see. It explains how some congenital anomalies occur in babies and some teratomas(cancers which occur in newborns). During the growth of a fetus, a lot of 'errors' occur but because they are not fatal, the fetus continues its growth. But if a fatal 'error' happens, then the fetus dies. Causes of such errors include viruses, drugs, chromosomal issues.
So bro, cure yourself of this ignorance. Its too comedic.

MaxInDHouse:
Have you slept and waken up?
Take it as a miracle because many never woke up today!

I knew you'd say this, thereby exposing the well-known ignorance amongst theists.
Sleeping and waking cycle or Circadian rhythm is controlled by the SCN (suprachiasmatic nucleus) present in the hypothalamus, which lies in the brain stem. Inputs come from lights etc.
So no one is in charge of turning on or off your lights or consciousness, and its definitely not a miracle

MaxInDHouse:
Either of the two!

I hope I live up to a ripe old age

God2man2again:
@ Op, Kindly make research on YouTube about a message by Dr .D.K OLUKOYA when MFM Wuye Abuja was dedicated. Meticulously search for The Title of this message
DR.D K OLUKOYA||GENERATIONAL FAMILY DELIVERANCE (FIGHT FOR YOUR FAMILY)|| MFM WUYE ABUJA CHURCH.
This message was posted on YouTube 7 months ago.

Nevertheless Curse came as a result of iniquity, God started it in Genesis 3:14.
Then it went down to so many generations, it doesn't matter whether you are black or white.

What is a curse?
According to Google, it is a solemn utterance intended to invoke a supernatural power to inflict harm or punishment on someone or something.

Synonyms are malediction, evil eye, imprecation, voodoo, hoodoo, anthema, excommunication, hex, cess, jinx, malison, ban.
Blasphemous word.
Strong language
Swear word
Oath and so on.

Also, apart from God Curses are also invoked as a result.of man's inhumanity to man.
The cruel behavior that people show to each other.

Recently on Facebook, a lady called Deborah or so scammed a woman of a large sum of money and the woman put a curse on her if she doesn't return the money, the lady eventually returned the money and became born again, she is born again now. She is now an evangelist.

If you think I am deceiving you, kindly go to Facebook search and search for Evang Deborah, stroll down, you will see her real story her Facebook page.

In the Bible,(read Genesis chapter 49)
Reuben slept with his father's wife and his father cursed him,
Genesis 49:4" Unstable as water, thou shalt not excel; because thou wentest up to thy father's bed; then thou defiledst thou it: he went up to my couch"

The curse of thou shalt not excel is on Reuben.

The problem with Africa is that the root or the foundation of African is riddled with serious idolatry.
Too bad, God hates idolatry with perfect hatred. God is a jealous God.
Thou shalt have no other God before me.

Africans worshipped many Idols, the white men have their own issues with idols.

Mathematics is needed now.

Are you a Mathematician? Please come!

There is something called family tree.

For you to be born, you need 2 parents, 4 grand parents, 8 great grand parents, 16 people- 2nd great grandparents,
32 -3rd great grandparents,
64- 4th great grandparents
128- 5th great grandparents
256- 6th great grandparents
512 people- 7th great grandparents

For you to be born today over the last 10 generations, you have 4,000 ancestors.

You may say, it doesn't matter, it is a lie but come to think of it, you go to a Doctor and you a diagnosed with a particular ailment, the Doctor would ask, if it has happened to any member of your family.
Why is the Doctor asking?

Diseases are hereditary. They are in the blood line, they are in the family tree.

Once someone has done something evil that deserved a curse, it will affect the family tree.

That's why MFM is the only Church that can pray surgical prayers to stop these curses, however, it is not automatic, it takes time. Other churches can also do it but you can be sure MFM has it.

God decides the time to remove the curse but you must keep praying because you never know what is going on your family tree.

So many examples of curses on humanities.

Thou shalt not excel.
Thou shalt not marry.
Thou shalt not live long.
Thou shalt not graduate.
Thou shalt not be well.
Thou shalt not be rich.
Thou shalt not be educated.
Thou shalt not have children.
Thou shalt not go Scot free.
Thou shalt not travel out of Nigeria.
Thou shalt not be born again.
Thou shalt not believe in God.
Thou shalt serve idols.
Thou shalt not marry a good wife or husband.

If you don't break these curses, there will be problem.

If the curse can affect the family, the family is a nucleus of the nation, it will affect the nation.
The nation will not make it. Nigeria is a case study.

Humanities need help.

You can decide to be somebody that will rewrite or change your family history or somebody that will follow the evil pattern of your family history.

If you go down.many will go down but if you decide to be an inspiration to this generation,.many will be inspired to rise up.

May God help us all in Jesus. Mighty name. Amen.

After taking my time to read through your unabashed advertisement and promotion of MFM(I hope that nigga pays you well), I have these questions
1. Somehow, in your haste to promote your favorite church, you still didn't talk about the OP's question which simply asked why 'generational curses' are not exhibited in the Western World or rather still, the rest of the world(outside Africa)
2. About the Deborah story, did it occur to you that she could have returned the money because of guilty conscience or fear of the curse, and not the supposed action of the 'curse'?
3. We ask patients about the hereditary cause of some diseases like hypertension and diabetes because they are present in genes, and these genes code proteins which interfere with body processes. These have been backed by science. Has your 'generational curse' been mapped in human genes? No. So please don't involve science when you wanna talk trash.
Thank You sir

Dtruthspeaker:
Why did you dodge my question and try to switch the burden of proof? I thought you were trying to be peaceful and apologetic. So your intention to apologize was fake!

Well, it is crazy of me to expect that you were decent.

Its crazy of me to expect hygiene from a smelly anus

MightySparrow:
Just read through the Bible yourself. See instances of pronouncement of curses like on Reuben Jericho, Esau etc. In general read about the life of Israel as it meanders through history.

Come to Yorubaland a d see the effects of Alaafin Abiodun Aole upon Yorubaland.

I need evidence. All those instances you gave me are all hearsays and anecdotes

MaxInDHouse:
Great!
So what hope do you in person have regarding the future?

Hope for the future? You mean when I'm dead or alive?

MaxInDHouse:
Wow!
You're sound today?
I hope you will always be like this, asking from the heart.

Those fetuses and babies were destroyed by the order from my God when Jesus of Nazareth hasn't established the preaching and teaching campaign for God's Kingdom.

So from the day Jesus commissioned that work all worshipers of my God mustn't join forces to raise weapons again because we're now hoping to see them become like us preachers and teachers of God's word with the prospect of living forever!

Please what keeps you going happily i will like to know why you've not committed suicide despite the world condition!

Same reason millions of atheists haven't been committing suicide, bro

MaxInDHouse:
The difference is i'm one of the preachers of the GOOD NEWS about God's Kingdom helping people around me to be hopeful of a better promising future for mankind, many have become peace lovers and well meaning citizens due to this fine WORKS!

So until i expire i've got a job to do that's keeping me busy and joyous as i'm seeing many responding positively to the Good News of God's Kingdom.

Please what about you?
What keeps you going happily?
Would you mind sharing it with me

So how do you know the fetuses wasted by your god aren't going to be 'preaching good news'?

Ken4Christ:
Daniel 12:10
Many shall be purified, and made white, and tried; but the wicked shall do wickedly: and NONE OF THE WICKED SHALL UNDERSTAND; but the wise shall understand

This verse simply says the wicked doesn't understand. And the wise does understand. Now what exactly are they understanding?

Ken4Christ:
Yes, I still maintain my claim. They are no longer under God's cover. But sometimes, mercy prevails over judgment.

Yeah, good old mercy and grace . The same mercy christians claim atheists enjoy when we get good health, prosperity etc. But when we encounter calamity, they tell us its the wrath of god. Y'all are a bunch of clowns. You n your inept god

Ken4Christ:
I am not speaking from both sides. It's the truth. The present day Jews are not saved because they rejected Christ. So, God's attention is presently on the church of the Gentiles.

The mercy the Jews receives occasionally is for Abraham's sake.

So how do we know when the lord shows them grace occasionally? There's no indicator anywhere

Ken4Christ:
Yes, his attention is currently on the church of the Gentiles. But occasionally, he shows them mercy for Abraham's sake. If you don't like that, go and hug a transformer.

Yeah, I am Abraham Lincoln. If you don't believe that, hug Kainji Dam

MaxInDHouse:
Whether you're a baby, youth or old man you will die in this system of things so what is the difference?

Cool. Since we'll all die anyways why don't you enter a railway track and die there? After all, what's the difference?