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LordReed:
Well anywhere gullible people are gathered some conman must emerge to take advantage.

jaephoenix:
...and he pops up and spews an entire pile of trash, just like I predicted. A mountain of evidence is looking at you. Witnesses, confessions, court indictments, many years of news coverage. You didn't even bother to investigate whether they are true or not.
Why are you always predictable?
This JW virus has gotten in too deep

Oga, your fellow Atheists dey commit atrocities inside "Atheists gathering"

Did your fellow atheists commit the same crime you are WAILING about?
Yes.
The President of Atheists confessed his sexual misconduct to the Washington Post.
Other Atheists have also been indicted for the same crime you are WAILING about.
Oga , remove the rafters from your eyes & clean out the stench in your Atheists fold,Awon supporters of rape.


Abeg carry your mumu GIBBERISH outta here.

oteneaaron:
1. The two Witness rule to establish scriptural crimes

2. The three year rule for sins of Elders.

Other reasons include:

1. Worldly wisdom cannot be trusted

2. Reproach must nt be brought on Jehovah's Organization - Witnesses are expected to solve problems within

3. Everyone must engage in preaching

It was not until the late 1990s, particularly since 1997, that Watchtower made attempts at policy improvement regarding child abuse, following legal and media pressure.

However, the July 2015 Australian Royal Commission into Institutional Responses to Child Sexual Abuse showed that Watchtower policies still fall woefully short of accepted best practice.

oteneaaron:
There have been several reasons that pedophiles have been able to find sanctuary amongst Jehovah's Witnesses and that the Watchtower Society is now being held accountable for the actions of its members.

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oteneaaron:
The Watchtower 1995 Nov 1 pp.28-9 gave the following advice regarding accusations of child abuse.



*Please note the bolded for emphasis.

oteneaaron:
It is a fact that the rot of sexual abuse of children has eaten deep into the organization of Jehovah's Witnesses.
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Not at all.
The fact that That Judas Iscariot and Peter betrayed Jesus & false brothers betrayed Paul meaning that betrayers had "eaten deep" into the fold of the disciples?

You can't ever disguise your bad belle for JWs.

oteneaaron:
Dear parents, please keep your children safe.

Pedophiles are everywhere - not just among Jehovah's Witnesses.

Stay safe.

oteneaaron:
Thanks a lot bro.

Courz:
Wow. Congratulations. I wish you a happy and successful Marriage.

tundein18:
Yes because he’s the son of God but also God

Oga, Jesus is teaching you @ Revelation 3:2,12 that himself is a Worshipper in heaven.

Oga, who does God his Father Worship?

Nah where you see equality between any Worshipper & the Being that Worshipper is worshipping?

tundein18:
The most important reason that Jesus must be God is that, if He is not God, His death would not have been sufficient to pay the penalty for the sins of the world (1 John 2:2). A created being, which Jesus would be if He were not God, could not pay the infinite penalty required for sin against an infinite God. Only God could pay such an infinite penalty. Only God could take on the sins of the world (2 Corinthians 5:21), die, and be resurrected, proving His victory over sin and death.

Is Jesus God? Yes. Jesus declared Himself to be God. His followers believed Him to be God. The provision of salvation only works if Jesus is God. Jesus is God incarnate, the eternal Alpha and Omega (Revelation 1:8; 22:13), and God our Savior (2 Peter 1:1).

https://www.gotquestions.org/is-Jesus-God.html

tundein18:
Who is Jesus to you then?

Revelation 3:2,12 & Matthew 16:13-17, the revelation from God given to Jesus Christ & Peter the apostle.

Jesus says himself is a Worshipper in heaven.

tundein18:
In Revelation, an angel instructed the apostle John to only worship God (Revelation 19:10). Several times in Scripture Jesus receives worship (Matthew 2:11; 14:33; 28:9, 17; Luke 24:52; John 9:38). He never rebukes people for worshiping Him. If Jesus were not God, He would have told people to not worship Him, just as the angel in Revelation did. Beyond these, there are many other passages of Scripture that argue for Jesus being God.

tundein18:
Thomas the disciple declared concerning Jesus, “My Lord and my God” (John 20:28). Jesus does not correct him. Titus 2:13 encourages us to wait for the coming of our God and Savior, Jesus Christ (see also 2 Peter 1:1). In Hebrews 1:8, the Father declares of Jesus, “But about the Son He says, ‘Your throne, O God, will last forever and ever, and righteousness will be the scepter of your kingdom.’” The Father refers to Jesus as God, indicating that Jesus is indeed God.

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John 20:28 ended with exclamation!
Go & Verify John 20:28 from biblehub.

Is "oh my God! meaning God Almighty?
No nau !
Jesus Christ spoke to Thomas @ John 20:17, why do you believe imperfect Thomas more than the perfect Jesus Christ?

Your mentors ADDED God to 1 Timothy 3:16 & 1 John 5:7, why would they not do the same@ 2 Peter 1:1 & Titus 2:13 to contradict Peter @ Matthew 16:16-17 & Contradict Paul @ 1 Corinthians 11:3?
Did the Jews, the disciples believe in Trinity?
No !

* Paul copied Hebrews 1:8 from Psalms 45:6.
Oga,go & verify Psalm 45:6 from the Catholic New Jerusalem Bible & the Message Bibles as well as the Hebrew language Masoretic Psalm 45:6-7.

tundein18:
John reiterates the concept of Jesus’ deity:
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tundein18:
“The Word [Jesus] was God” and “the Word became flesh” (John 1:1, 14). These verses clearly indicate that Jesus is God in the flesh. Acts 20:28 tells us, “Be shepherds of the church of God, which He bought with His own blood.” Who bought the church with His own blood? Jesus Christ. And this same verse declares that God purchased His church with His own blood. Therefore, Jesus is God.
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"The word was a god" , John 1:1 & John 10:33. (SCREENSHOT PROVEN evidences).
Also, Acts 12:22-23 is the rule for translation of John 1:1.
Why?
Greek lexicon John 14:1 & John 4:24, Jesus says " the God" refers to his Father (his Senior) , the same thing @ John 1:1, NOT to Jesus because Jesus is NOT Almighty

Also,Greek Theo's also means "a god" & the 2nd Theo's (the Word @ John1:1) does NOT refer to the Almighty God.

You have to use Acts 20:28 Twisted by Trinitarians.
Paul made the statement @ Acts 20:28,is Paul a Trinitarian?
No!
Jews do not believe in Trinity, 1 Corinthians 11:3, Paul says "the God is the head of Christ".
Romans 8:3, Paul says it's the blood of God's own son."

Greek John 4:24 , Jesus says the God is a Spirit".
Oga, does spirit have blood?
Is John 3:16 missing from your Bible?

tundein18:
John 8:58 is another example. Jesus declared, “I tell you the truth … before Abraham was born, I am!” This is a reference back to Exodus 3:14 when God revealed Himself as the “I AM.” The Jews who heard this statement responded by taking up stones to kill Him for blasphemy, as the Mosaic Law commanded (Leviticus 24:16).
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tundein18:
Is Jesus God? — Jesus claimed to be God.

Take for example the words of Jesus in John 10:30, “I and the Father are one.” We need only to look at the Jews’ reaction to His statement to know He was claiming to be God. They tried to stone Him for this very reason: “You, a mere man, claim to be God” (John 10:33, emphasis added). The Jews understood exactly what Jesus was claiming—deity. When Jesus declared, “I and the Father are one,” He was saying that He and the Father are of one nature and essence.

Why do you DECEIVE YOURSELF?

@ John 10:30, Jesus Christ is saying." I & my Senior" are one."
@ John 10:30 Father meaning "Senior,Elder, Ancestor."
Oga Tundein,Go & verify !

John 17:21-22, Jesus Christ says my Senior (the Father), the Disciples and Jesus are one."

Oga, you are TWISTING the holy scriptures with your deceitful interpretation of John 10:30.

@John 17:21-22, did Jesus Christ exposed your deceitful interpretation of John 10:30?

Yes!!

MaxInDHouse:
See madness of the highest order!

But the same God cannot make a virgin have a baby without sex yet He can talk to the planet shey?

Those faithless Judaists has finished you!

NNTR:
When God said: 'Let Us Create Man In Our Own Image' God was referring to the fulness of the I AM THAT I AM divine nature to be physically represented on earth through creating human beings

Of course, this is in three dimensional context, (i.e. God the Father, God Son and God, Holy Spirit aka Godhead) being that God really, is infinity

Man (i.e. human beings) will be a conduit and expression of this desire

_{Personal text: Jesus is not a theologian. He is God who told stories.}

After all, Jesus Christ his Son taught you @ Matthew 19:4-6, that the God (his Father) the Creator is a "HE" not "US".
The same fact & Bible truth Jesus confirmed in Matthew 19:4-6
was confirmed by Genesis 1:26-27 & Hebrews 1:2.

Job 38:1-7, The God (his Father) testified to the truth of Genesis 1:26-27 , Matthew 19:4-6 & Hebrews 1:2.
(By the way, God the "Father" meaning God the "Senior".
This is further proof that your 3 equal persons triune formula nah wash !!!)

Trinitarians DON'T believe in Genesis 1:26-27, Hebrews 1:2 , Matthew 19:4-6 & Job 38:1-7, the truth revealed by the holy scriptures explaining holy scriptures.

From Genesis to Revelation, we know Jesus Christ saw the creation of man, did Jesus at anytime, any where teach that GIBBERISH Christendom crafted to DECEIVE all of you?
No !!

Trinity GIBBERISH is a man made Fraud jare.

knowingChrist:
Learn from this pls

Matthew 5:32
New Living Translation
"32 But I say that a man who divorces his wife, unless she has been unfaithful, causes her to commit adultery. And anyone who marries a divorced woman also commits adultery"

Matthew 19:9 & Matthew 5:32, Jesus Christ has settled the matter of divorce.

Long story no dey the matter.

FYI,
The Bible uses the same Greek word to reference adultery, fornication, sexual immorality , unchastity etc.

That word @ Matthew 19:9 & Matthew 5:32 (also in 1 Corinthians 6:9-10) refers to all forms of sexual activity/relationship outside of marriage union.

Please find out the meaning of Greek 4202 lexicon (circled in red screenshot) & be guided.

Shalom.

Courz:
Very True. It certainly shows that religions can easily deceive many just by claiming to be the One True religion. But by their doctrines, you will know whom they serve. Their doctrines and lifestyle expose them. Any religion that doesn't make Jesus the center of their teachings is disqualified and has proven to be False.

johnw47:
many orgs. claim they are the one true religion, to name just a small number:

roman catholic church
the orthodox church
the oriental orthodox communion
the assyrian church of the east
seventh day adventists
jehovah's witnesses
church of the latter day saints
etc. etc. etc.

they are very gullible people

WipKnot:
An orange tree cannot produce mango fruits.

Adopting the name of a fallen angel
Jehovah as your banner and corporate identify says it all.

Why should a believer reference you for the truth about God's word.

https://wol.jw.org/en/wol/d/r1/lp-e/1960561
The New World Bible Translation Committee stated: “While inclining to view the pronunciation ‘Yah·wehʹ” as the more correct way, we have retained the form ‘Jehovah’ because of people’s familiarity with it since the 14th century.

To cap it, the reason they continue to use "Jehovah" instead of the correct spelling Yahweh, is to be pleasing to man, not God.

Lasgidi90:
The woman is, as she is "supposed" to be the one to raise the children.

Righteousness2:
Nlfpmod

You love DECEIVING YOURSELF.
No be today we know. .

1 Corinthians 15:19 ,1 Timothy 6:7 & all other quotes you made on this thread, NONE IF THEM has any connection to your GIBBERISH.

WipKnot:
Now this is for those who seek the truth about the WORD of God, and not in any way to argue with JW.

The scripture has already written about JW in
2 Timothy 3:5-7 King James Version
5 Having a form of godliness, but denying the power thereof: from such turn away.

6 For of this sort are they which creep into houses, and lead captive silly women laden with sins, led away with divers lusts,

7 Ever learning, and never able to come to the knowledge of the truth

Now back to topic
The Holy Bible says, God is not a man that he should lie.

In Genesis 1:26 God said let us create man in our own image,
and God created man in his own image.

Does it mean Gód has cheated the others. Impossibility

In Exodus 3:14 - And God said unto Moses, I AM THAT I AM

In John 8:58 Jesus said, Before Abraham was, I AM.

Our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ has claimed equality with God Almighty.

Why, because, HE is God Almighty.

WipKnot:
The HE in the last sentence

Why, because, HE is God Almighty is english language expression.

Now modified to
Why, because, Jesus Christ is God Almighty put to rest any ambiguity.

WipKnot:
It is most important to bring to bear the whole verse so men would not be led astray by diversionary tactics.

Genesis 1:26
And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth.”

Genesis 1:27
“So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them.”

WipKnot:
In Exodus 3:14 - And God said unto Moses, I AM THAT I AM

In John 8:58 Jesus said, Before Abraham was, I AM.

Our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ has claimed equality with God Almighty.

Why, because, HE is God Almighty.

Oga,go & study the Hebrew Tanakh of Exodus 3:14 & stop DECEIVING YOURSELF.
Gullible sheeples

Everywhere Jesus Christ said "my Father" in your own Bible, Jesus is saying "my Senior, Elder, Ancestor"

WipKnot:
Now back to topic
The Holy Bible says, God is not a man that he should lie.

In Genesis 1:26 God said let US create man in our own image,
and God created man in HIS own image.

Does it mean Gód has cheated the others. Impossibility.

Wipknot : "The holy bible says God is a "HE".
Wipknot: "HE (God) created man in His image.

Oga Wipknot which of your Gods is a "HE"?
You have proven that your own Gods are more than one.
Who are your "others" distinct from your "HE cheating them?"

Confused Trinitarians

WipKnot:
Now this is for those who seek the truth about the WORD of God, and not in any way to argue with JW.

The scripture has already written about JW in
2 Timothy 3:5-7 King James Version
5 Having a form of godliness, but denying the power thereof: from such turn away.

6 For of this sort are they which creep into houses, and lead captive silly women laden with sins, led away with divers lusts,

7 Ever learning, and never able to come to the knowledge of the truth

. Oga, was JW written in your own Bible@2 Timothy 3:5-7?

Everyone else knows that the correct answer is no.

You made FALSE claim to DECEIVE YOURSELF.

paschu:
I am not denying the divinity of Christ. I am only saying what the Bible teaches, which is the fact that even in divinity, there is what you may reffer to as heiarachy or ranks. And if you still want to insist that the Son is equal to the Father, how then would you explain the following scripture:

1Co 15:28 And when all things shall be subdued unto him, then shall the Son also himself be subject unto him that put all things under him, that God may be all in all.

The events of 1 Corinthians 15:24-8 took place in the spiritual realm,in heaven ofcourse!

What is the meaning of " God the Father" in 1 Corinthians 15:24-28?
God the Father= God the Senior.

Greek word for Father meaning "Senior".

Trinity nah Scam.

KingEbukasBlog:
You are making an error here bro . If you see Yahweh as higher in rank then you have three different gods each having different ranks - that's heretical . Remember to uphold the truth of the trinity , you have to understand that they are one in every aspect - divinity , rank , glory , honour , supremacy etc .

This excerpt offered the best explanation

KingEbukasBlog:
We need to start having a clearer picture of who God truly is and how he reveals Himself to man


There are several references to the throne of God in the Bible. Jesus calls heaven “God’s throne” in Matthew 5:34, recalling God’s statement in Isaiah 66:1, “Heaven is my throne, and the earth is my footstool.” Other references to God’s throne are found in 2 Chronicles 18:18; Psalm 11:4; Hebrews 8:1; 12:2; Revelation 1:4; 3:21; 4:2; and many other verses.

A throne is a special seat reserved for a monarch. When the Bible speaks of God’s “throne,” the emphasis is on God’s transcendence, dignity, and sovereign rule. The fact that His throne is in heaven further underscores the transcendent nature of God’s existence.

The throne of God need not be thought of as a literal throne. God the Father is incorporeal (John 4:24). Not having a physical body, God does not literally “sit.” References to a divine throne are akin to biblical allusions to God’s “hand” or “mouth” or “eyes”—they are anthropomorphisms, descriptions of God couched in human terms out of deference to our limited knowledge. God has to describe Himself in ways we can understand.

Isaiah sees the Lord “high and exalted, seated on a throne; and the train of his robe filled the temple” (Isaiah 6:1). At that time, the prophet was having an inspired vision. God’s throne (and His robe) are not to be taken as literal, physical objects. Rather, God was communicating to Isaiah the magnificence, splendor, and exaltation of His Being. Other descriptions of the throne of God are found in other prophetic visions, e.g., in those of Ezekiel and John.

God’s throne is a place of power and authority. In 2 Chronicles 18:18, the prophet Micaiah relates his vision of God’s throne hi room, in which spirit beings stand in attendance. Compare this to Job 1:6, where God demands answers from the angelic beings summoned there.

God’s throne is a place of majesty and honor. The Bible says that, when Jesus ascended to heaven, He “sat down at the right hand of the throne of God” (Hebrews 12:2). There is no higher place than heaven. God is the King of heaven, and Jesus holds the place of honor at God’s right hand.

God’s throne is a place of perfect justice. “He has prepared His throne for judgment” (Psalm 4:7; cf. 89:14). The final judgment, described in Revelation 21, is held before “a great white throne” (verse 11).

God’s throne is a place of sovereignty and holiness. “God reigns over the nations; God is seated on his holy throne” (Psalm 47:8; cf. 103:19). He does whatever He pleases, and all He does is good.

God’s throne is a place of praise. John’s vision of heaven includes a scene in which a “new song” is sung in praise to the One who occupies the throne (Revelation 14:3). Around the throne, the praise of God is surely “glorious” (Psalm 66:2).

God’s throne is a place of purity. Only the redeemed, those who have been granted the righteousness of Christ, will have the right to stand before His throne (Revelation 14:5).

God’s throne is a place of eternal life. God is the Source of life. In heaven, John sees “the river of the water of life, as clear as crystal, flowing from the throne of God and of the Lamb” (Revelation 22:1).

God’s throne is a place of grace. Not only does the throne of God represent judgment for the unbeliever, but it also represents mercy and grace for His children. “Let us then approach God’s throne of grace with confidence, so that we may receive mercy and find grace to help us in our time of need” (Hebrews 4:16). Inside the Jewish temple was the Ark of the Covenant, which was a “copy of the true” (Hebrews 9:24), and it had a “mercy seat” where God’s presence would appear (Leviticus 16:2, ESV).

One day, all creation will bow to the majesty of God’s throne (Philippians 2:9–11). The regal beings surrounding the throne of God will “lay their crowns before the throne and say: ‘You are worthy, our Lord and God, to receive glory and honor and power’” (Revelation 4:10–11).

http://www.gotquestions.org/throne-of-God.html

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