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OgaNightmare:
I'm not and atheist, I'm a JW like like you
This your ad hominems are now becoming more of a trademark

Ken4Christ:
Who are we going to believe? Your wicked organization that opposes the truth of God's word or what the word of God teaches.

The verse below confirms that Jesus has a body but it is a glorious one;

Philippians 3:21

Who shall change our vile body, that it may be fashioned like unto HIS GLORIOUS BODY , according to the working whereby he is able even to subdue all things unto himself.

And it says that our bodies will be transformed also to be like his glorious body.

I know that you are thinking of another lie to fabricate.

Interpret the above verse for me.

Mumu Pastorpreneur forgot John 17:4-5,24.
Jesus Christ was a glorified spirit before his Father sent him to earth.
He goes back to heaven as a glorified spirit.
There, resurrected humans transformed to spirits will dwell with God and His Son Jesus Christ, John 17:24.

ONLY those spirits dwelling with God in heaven possess sinless glorious bodies.

Not men in this sinful imperfect world where God's mercy speaks.

Courz:
JWs will never admit they are wrong. Never! Even though they are all falling into a pit.

This explanation of yours is consistent with other Bible verses. I remember another Bible verse I bumped into, I can't remember if it is John in Revelation or Daniel, one of them, was said to be [b]in the spirit while he was seeing the visions. Does that mean that one of them was in spirit form? No. It meant that they were under the influence of the Holy Spirit to see those visions[/b].

Common sense should tell JWs that when they have a doctrine that doesn't go with many other Bible verses, it is time to change that doctrine after all their so called Faithful Slave make too many mistakes in doctrines. How can you argue over a doctrine when there are so many other verses that totally destroy it? I have been asking them to explain why Jesus said he will raise up his body in 3 days and why Jesus told Thomas that he is not a Spirit. Not one of them could answer. They all went into their Robotic mode. Mad MaxInDHouse says Jesus lied and deceived Thomas that he had a physical body because Thomas was not ready to be told the truth. How Mad Max was able to read the mind of Jesus from 2022 down to thousands of years ago is Marvellous. And they get offended when they are called a Satanic Cult.

Mumu COURZ IBERIBEIST GIBBERISH.
Did your Bible says Daniel or John was dead in the flesh as a human being?
Nothing concern Daniel or John with Courz GIBBERISH.

This is screenshots of 1 Peter 3:18.
JWs are correct jare.
1 Peter 3:18 Greek word for word English:
He (Christ) was put to death in the body (fleshly realm with human nature where all men dwells)
But made alive ( to make that which was dead ( [i] in the fleshly realm) to live in the spirit (realm).

OgaNightmare:
Currently now my family is hitting back at me cus they've seen I'm no longer taking the Borg seriously . They're saying I'm no longer interested in spiritual things anymore that I'm dwindling.
Therefore I refrain from having any biblical discussion with them, cus no matter how hard I try they won't still wake up.
So this days I just force myself and play along.
Even if you show them from their publications the will never believe it, but time will tell.

OgaNightmare:
Courz just take a look at this, first a clear denial of the words of Christ and later a shameless admition of the plain language used in the passage.
Do the really have God's Revelation as the claim?

*Therefore, in answer, the Jews said to him: "What sign have you to show us, since you are doing these things?" In answer Jesus said to them: "Break down this temple, and in three days I will raise it up." Therefore the Jews said: "This temple was built in forty-six years, and will you raise it up in three days?" But he was TALKING ABOUT THE TEMPLE OF HIS BODY. (NWT)

#Now look at the interpretation of that verse from the Watchtower:

"This setting shows that Jesus was not talking about his physical body, but "he was talking about the temple of his body". ... Now with this broadened view of matters we must return to the consideration of Jesus' words, "In three days I will raise it up." We have seen how he did start giving attention to the building up of the temple of living stones after his resurrection on the third day of his death. ... this building of "the temple of his body" started then and continued through the years that followed ... Jesus' words, "In three days I will raise it up," were merely predicting that the [spiritual] temple would be raised up on the third day after his death on the torture stake, and Jehovah God was the one who raised up the temple by first raising up the head member of it, the Lord Jesus Christ, and from then on, from that third day on, God used him to raise up all the other members of the temple class. (Zech. 6:12) So through the Roman military the Jews broke down the chief and initial member of God's spiritual temple, but on the third day Jehovah raised him as a spirit creature and chief cornerstone of the spiritual temple. –The Watchtower, October 1, 1952, page 606-607.
*Absolutely concocted and covoluted explanation, the level of heresy in this explanation is top notch.

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OgaNightmare:
Now look at what they later admitted;

"To begin with, Jesus himself repeatedly foretold that he would be raised from the dead. Early in his ministry he referred to it, saying: "Break down this temple, and in three days I will raise it up." "He was talking about the temple of his body." (John 2:19-21) ... How can we understand all these plain statements if Jesus was not actually raised from the dead? –The Watchtower, November 15, 1969, page 678.

Funny people

Courz:
If you follow Watchtower, you will be caught in a constant state of confusion. These people use words to confuse the ignorant. These people are confused. It is true that some translations say Temple of his body just as there are others that say The Temple is his body. The same Bible also says our Body is a Temple. Therefore, the Temple is his body! So, why is Watchtower confusing people by saying that the Temple Jesus was referring to was not his Body? Why are people following these Confusionists consulting with demons that derive joy in confusing them?

Ken4Christ:
You have just testified with your mouth that you are not born again. So, you are sure to go to hell.

Meanwhile, Paul never said so[b]. He said God will change our bodies[/b]. He mentioned that those who are alive when Jesus comes will receive a new body.

Why am I even wasting my time on a son of perdition like you.

My only pain is gullible souls you will take along with you to that burning flame.

OgaNightmare:
Carry your mumu proselytizing and leave this place... nonsensical nonsense
Advocatejare abeg drop more trinitarian qoutes from the Koran

brocab:
{Isaiah 5:20} Woe to those who call evil good, and good evil; Who put darkness for light, and light for darkness; Who put bitter for sweet, and sweet for bitter..
Janosky defends the guilty.

Courz:
. Remember, Thomas said to the disciples that until he himself touches the body of Jesus will he believe he has been Resurrected. My question is Why did Jesus bother to try to convince Thomas with his hands and feet still having the holes of nails used to crucify him?

Courz:
Why did Jesus then say he is not a Spirit? JWs cannot answer that one because they don't listen to Jesus.
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Courz:
Have it in mind that Jesus before he died was human yet with Divine qualities of God who could perform miracles. And after he was resurrected, he was with a glorified body yet he said he was Flesh and bones to Thomas.

johnw47:
they can answer but it will be confusion or lies,
have to go on business, see you later

Courz:
What is the bone of contention here is that JWs teach Jesus was not resurrected with the Physical body but only with spirit body.

Courz:
They believe his physical body evaporated.

This deluded LYING IBERIBEIST.
COURZ IBERIBEISM extraordinary divorce from reality of Hebrew 10:10, 1Peter 3:18 & John 6:51

Ken4Christ:
Jesus told Thomas he is not a spirit. You say otherwise.

Ken4Christ:
He told Thomas has flesh and bone.

Pastorpreneur you are LYING.
Did your own Bible say Jesus spoke with Thomas @ Luke24:1-39?

Ken4Christ:
Why are you avoiding the encounter he had with Thomas.

You are only looking for scriptures that appears to support your pre conceived opinions.

Ken4Christ:
You will rot in hell. Worms that does not die will crawl in your body and torment you.

johnw47:
Ecclesiastes 7:6
For as the crackling of thorns under a pot, so is the laughter of the fool


fraud jw janosky

you love to keep repeating your same lies over and over again, of course:

Joh 8:44 You are of your father the devil, and you want to do the desires of your father. He was a murderer from the beginning, and does not stand in the truth because there is no truth in him. Whenever he speaks a lie, that is his natural way of speaking, for he is a liar and the father of lies.

you love to continually lie and blaspheme, calling the Christians Father and Jesus and Holy Spirit of the Bible: "3 deities" whch means 3 gods,
you also call them: "the 3 dogheads", and you call the Christians Holy Spirit of the Bible: "the ole demon ghost

your reward is coming:

Mar 3:29 but whoever blasphemes against the Holy Spirit never has forgiveness, but is guilty of an eternal sin

1Jn 5:16 If any man see his brother sin a sin which is not unto death, he shall ask, and he shall give him life for them that sin not unto death. There is a sin unto death: I do not say that he shall pray for it.

rev 20:15 And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire

OLAADEGBU:
"Does Genesis 2:7 prove that a "soul" is just a physical human life?"

Not as the Watchtower would have you understand. However, their error is examined here at http://ow.ly/kHgb50LHF8u

Mark 3:4, Jesus asks "is it lawful to save a soul or kill a soul on the Sabbath?
OLAADEGBU and Christendom GIBBERISH .

OLAADEGBU:
"Jehovah's Witnesses, Isaiah, and the state of the dead"

The Watchtower teaches contrary to The Book of Isaiah as demonstrated in this article at http://ow.ly/8ys550LHEBp

OLAADEGBU:
"Jehovah's Witnesses, Ecclesiastes 9, and the state of the dead"

Jehovah's Witnesses teach contrary to the Scriptures, as you can see by reading further at http://ow.ly/JWcS50LHEv7

Ken4Christ:
You are so wicked. And you are doing it to the destruction of your own soul. Who did this to you?

brocab:
{Isaiah 5:20} Woe to those who call evil good, and good evil; Who put darkness for light, and light for darkness; Who put bitter for sweet, and sweet for bitter..
Janosky defends the guilty.

achorladey:
They are professionals regarding hiding their agendas to look good while ridiculing others.

achorladey:
They are professionals regarding hiding their agendas to look good while ridiculing others.

Mumu Pastorpreneur, was Jesus Christ a human being before he was born on earth?
Why do you want to force him to heaven with a human body when 1 Corinthians 15:50 & 1 Peter 3:18 as well as Acts 9:3-10 is in your Bible?

As 1 Corinthians 15:50,1 Peter 3:18 & Acts 9:3-10 the holy scriptures dey sweet us JWs,nah so e dey pain dem 3 deities worshippers & their anywhere belle face atheists friends.

thorpido:
People like you like cherry picking.
In John 10;30,Jesus said,I and my father are one.Please tell me what it means.

Ken4Christ:
Your punishment in hell will be worse than that of Russell. Russell probably didn't have anyone to correct him. But you are so fortunate to have people exposing your lies.
Why are you not commenting on the encounter Jesus had with Thomas?

achorladey:
No get sense peddling peddler remain for where I keep you like this by ruminating and regurgitating the below.

Since you know you will come around and accept the fact that you harbour CSAs and use in and out of court settlement to solve it amicably. By now you should have stopped your NO GET SENSE PEDDLING.

poncedeleon:
cafu criticize him for benching Arnold alex. now again he has subtited walker for him. Klopp was right After all. England change team base on criticism from pundit

thorpido:
How do the scriptures you quoted mean anything different?

achorladey:
Since you know you will come around and accept the fact that you harbour CSAs and use in and out of court settlement to solve it amicably. By now you should have stopped your NO GET SENSE PEDDLING.

achorladey:

I know you have to save your face and head, the reason you were asking Did Jesus harbour betrayers so you can have more reason to harbour CSAs. Many problems of your NO GET SENSE PEDDLING PEDDLER on nairaland.

Ken4Christ:
So when the Bible says in Romans 12:1 that we should present our bodies as living sacrifice, does it mean that will we lose our bodies?

They have brainwashed you with scriptures and interpret it out of context.
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Pastor for whose sins did you present your body as a sacrifice as Jesus Christ have done?

Carry your mumu TWISTING of Roman12:1 outta here.

Ken4Christ:
The verse just means it was the Spirit of God that gave him life. It's not saying he resurrected a spirit being without a body.

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Pastor, twisting the holy scriptures, did your Bible at 1 Peter 3:18 say the spirit of God give (put) Jesus to death?
The pastorpreneur DUBIOUSLY ADDED "Spirit of God" whereas 1 Peter 3:18 says "Jesus put to death in the flesh (meaning Jesus died in the earthly realm as a man) & made alive in the spirit (now living in the spirit realm)"

If this pastorpreneur get sense,he would have realised that Paul never saw Jesus Christ in the flesh as a man but only heard his voice speaking because Jesus Christ (@ Acts chapter 9:3-10) is no longer a human being after his resurrection

achorladey:
Mr NO GET SENSE PEDDLING PEDDLER on nairaland enjoy your NO GET SENSE PEDDLING.


A nail added to confirm your no get sense peddling. You do not Harbour CSAs now. Which one be malign. After all you accept many court cases don dey settled concerning the matter in and out of court paapaa. Apply your NO GET SENSE PEDDLING.

achorladey:
You know I will not allow you remove your NO GET SENSE PEDDLING PEDDLER ON NAIRALAND. Are the words of your religious leaders INSPIRED like that of Jesus Christ and Paul?

achorladey:
Stop regurgitating things I have placed where they belong. No dey carry animal sacrifices come my front. That one na discussion wey you enter and eventually ran away.

Are the changes of 1 Samuel2:27-32 inspired?

Are the amending and improving of 2 Corinthians 13: 9,11 inspired?

2 Corinthians 13: 9,11 ,1 Corinthians 13:9 &
1 Samuel 2:27-32 are the biblical principles & precedents JWs are copying.


Mumu atheist idolizing his mumu

achorladey:
Mr NO GET SENSE PEDDLING PEDDLER on nairaland who equally peddles WAILINGS on nairaland now accept that in terms of population and growth the CATHOLICS are performing better than his religious group.

Na your brother IN Jehovah ask question, he couldn't respond to the response I gave concerning that.

To your images posted so far, it is a reminder that your religious organization share common denominator with those you love calling christendom or BABYLON the GREAT in CSA saga

thorpido:
Jesus said,I have spoken to you of earthly things and you do not believe; how then will you believe if I speak of heavenly things? No one has ever gone into heaven except the one who came from heaven—the Son of Man. John 3:12-13

There are things beyond comprehension for the natural mind.Jesus said how will you believe heavenly things anyway?

The Muslim says God is great! The Muslim then begins to query the greatness........such a contradiction! If indeed He is great,then His ways must be beyond human limitations and the Bible rightly says so in Isaiah 55:9....As the heavens are higher than the earth, so are my ways higher than your ways and my thoughts than your thoughts.

@second bolded,Jesus said no man has gone into heaven except He who came down from heaven.Think about that.

ViceGovernor:
You're � on point.
Even in Ecclesiastics 7....It says God has made man upright but man will seek out many inventions.

I don't see any reason why they should dig out such a plague . How did they know such a thing even exists

God abeg who go help

WriterNig:
https://i2-prod.mirror.co.uk/incoming/article28600510.ece/ALTERNATES/s1200d/0_Microscopic-View-of-Semi-Transparent-Coronaviruses-on-Blue-Gradient-Background.jpg

Scientists have revived a 50,000 year old zombie virus that had been trapped deep within the Siberian permafrost in Russia.

Over a dozen prehistoric viruses were discovered by researchers from the French National Centre for Scientific Research.

They made the foreboding discovery within ice cores deep underground in Siberia, Russia.

The preprint study revealed 13 never-before-seen viruses that had been laying dormant within the ice for tens of thousands of years - and are now being brought back.

Researchers revived a virus that was 48,500 years old, called Pandoravirus yedoma.

However, this is not the first time the boffins have found such ancient diseases trapped within the ice.

https://i2-prod.mirror.co.uk/incoming/article28600509.ece/ALTERNATES/s615b/0_Ice-cave-in-Baikal-frozen-lake-in-winter-season-at-beautiful-sunset-Olkhon-island-Siberia-Russia.jpg

Back in 2014, the same researchers found a 30,000-year-old virus trapped in the permafrost and found that, after all that time, it was still able to infect organisms.

Now, with the thirteen new viruses in hand, scientists are thawing them out to assess their impacts on public health.

However, the find raises a very real and worrying possible threat to the world.

As the permafrost, or permanently frozen ground, melts and thaws, the ice is releasing the chemicals and microbes that were trapped there.

This is happening more and more because of climate change and could include releasing more ancient viruses we know nothing about.

https://i2-prod.mirror.co.uk/incoming/article28600531.ece/ALTERNATES/s615b/0_A-single-stylized-COVID-19-coronavirus-cell-on-paper-pattern-background.jpg

achorladey:
Mr NO GET SENSE PEDDLING PEDDLER your Bible states Paul's words are INSPIRED. Your governing body whom you equate with Jesus and Paul said their words are not INSPIRED, FILLED WITH ERRORS and mistakes in doctrines and organization directions.

Mr NO GET SENSE PEDDLING PEDDLER on nairaland. You see the difference