Christianity Etc › Re: JW 001 Should True Christians Support Wars? by Janosky: 4:17pm On Jul 11, 2021 |
RussellRutherfo: You this Pedophile Publisher employee of the WatchTower Babble Crap Society.
E be like say you want me to come and start exposing that secret occultic Elder's manual, Shepherd the Flock of God that is not made available to average second tier JWs where different rules are contained that sort of makes it hard to get CHILD ABUSE CASES BY JWs out to the Public.
Make I open my October 2019 edition paste am here for everyone to see or make I go previous editions. Which do you prefer? Your claim is GIBBERISH. [b]Source: reuters.com In 2017, Australia ended a five-year powerful government inquiry into institutional child sex abuse, which came up with 122 recommendations, including that Australia introduce a law forcing religions leaders to report child abuse. [REUTERSNEWS-T004/Id635fe00e15211e7acb4cd90b8c479ce] Australia's Cardinal George Pell, who is appealing a conviction for sexually assaulting two teen-aged choir boys, has been so far the most senior Catholic official worldwide to be jailed for child sex offences.[/b] Bros, which year did Australian legal system enact laws for mandatory reporting of abuse?
Australian legal system says where there is no law, there is no crime.
Rutherfo claim of a cover up is GIBBERISH. Bros, argue with your keyboard . 
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Christianity Etc › Re: JW 001 Should True Christians Support Wars? by Janosky: 4:08pm On Jul 11, 2021 |
Bishopkingsley: The governing body of Jehovah’s Witnesses refers to themselves as “the faithful and discreet slave” and congregants are called “sheep,” with elders and others in authority called “shepherds.”
Those who do not listen to Jehovah’s Witnesses are often called “goats,” and when such ones try to refute their teachings, JWs are told that it doesn’t matter if they cannot answer them as they are looking for “honest-hearted ones” who will receive their preaching.
The terms “brighter light” and “new light” are also commonly used to explain why their governing body needs to change their teachings and doctrines in the Bible.
Their teachings and literature are also commonly referred to as “spiritual food.” Other religions are referred to as “Christendom” and are outright called “false.”
Loaded and misleading language is also often used when talking about the positions of husbands and wives in a family. As brought out in this post,
https://jwvictims.org/2014/06/27/jehovahs-witnesses-reveal-their-own-dishonesty-by-accusing-women-of-competing-with-their-husbands/
a woman who is not submissive to her husband is accused of “competing” with him, leaving no room for a simple equalizing of roles between them. In your own house is your wife "equalizing roles" with you? You are free to type GIBBERISH & mislead the public.  |
Christianity Etc › Re: JW 001 Should True Christians Support Wars? by Janosky: 3:59pm On Jul 11, 2021 |
true2god: The problem of course is excessive brainwashing and with the false believe in the superiority of the watchtower organization over the rest. The moment they are presented with facts and evidence from the scriptures, that go against the traditional narrative of the watchtower, they will run away and will never visit you again for 'Bible (watchtower magazine) study'. The man who made the MISLEADING claim that "eating & drinking" in his Bible is not alcohol consumption even though "deep drinking dey him Bible, Romans 13:13. Even when he knows that drinking alcohol is a popular in all Mediterranean cultures ,inclusive of Jewish culture. Yet, he claimed that his church doctrine is superior to Scriptures. Bros, your claim is Spurious,abeg park well jare  |
Christianity Etc › Re: JW 001 Should True Christians Support Wars? by Janosky: 3:53pm On Jul 11, 2021 |
RussellRutherfo: According to the words of Jesus, the Only Leader. We are called to be Perfect (Matthew 5:48) and not for us to seek slave non-discreet "leaders" who are satanic liars to copy.
I sometimes don't know if you have a fully developed brain sometimes with the way you throw around Bible Verses and you don't even read the Bible Verses you throw around. I guess it's all based on the GB script playing in your head.
Even examining Hebrews 13:12-13 shows us clearly who this the Only Perfect One we all are to look up to and it is not the 8-Men New York Realtors that govern your life and that of other JWs.
Hebrews 13:12-13 NKJV — Therefore Jesus also, that He might sanctify the people with His own blood, suffered outside the gate. Therefore let us go forth to Him, outside the camp, bearing His reproach. Acts 9:3-6, Jesus Christ converted Paul. Acts 9:10,17-19, Jesus directed Ananias to Paul, he never walked alone. Verses 26-27, Barnabas led him to the leaders of JEHOVAH'S Servants in Jerusalem. Bros, confirm this Scriptural facts. Was Paul inspired to write Hebrews 13:7,13? Bros, argue with your keyboard.  |
Christianity Etc › Re: JW 001 Should True Christians Support Wars? by Janosky: 3:44pm On Jul 11, 2021 |
omojeesu: Your unbelieving mind is not surprising! May you not be beyond redemption. Amen.
Who didn't know that the Hebrew quote of Son being God came from the Psalms? Paul gave the proper application to Jesus Christ in the light of the gospel and the New Testament. And you are so blind that you can't see that?
Did you read the other parts? Highlighting one verse and you *cleverly* dodged the other verses!!
And what has Daniel 9 got to do with Jesus? Totally out of context!!
2 Corinthians
4:3 But if our gospel be hid, it is hid to them that are *lost*:
4:4 In whom the *god of this world hath blinded the minds* of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them.
Revelation
21:6 And he said unto me, It is done. *I am Alpha and Omega*, the beginning and the end. I will give unto him that is athirst of the fountain of the water of life freely.
21:7 He that overcometh shall inherit all things; and I will be his God, and he shall be my son.
21:8 But *the fearful*, and *unbelieving*, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and *all liars*, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the *second death*.
You and your deceived are at risk of the Lake of Fire. Stop the lying!
Repent now before it is too late! Become a child of God.
Allow God to give birth to you and become a new creature, born again, born of God, born of the Spirit.
Matthew 6:33
But *seek ye first the kingdom* of God, and his righteousness; and all these things shall be added unto you.
*To enter the Kingdom you must be born into it spiritually because the Kingdom is spiritual in reality.
John
3:3 Jesus answered and said unto him, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, *Except* a man be born again, he *cannot* see the kingdom of God.
3:5 Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, *Except* a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he *cannot enter* into the kingdom of God.
3:6 That which is born of the flesh is flesh; and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit.
3:7 *Marvel not* that I said unto thee, *Ye must* be born again.
I became a child of God in 1983 when l obeyed the above and John 1.10-13:
John
1:10 He was in the world, and the world was made by him, and the world knew him not. 1:11 He came unto his own, and his own received him not. 1:12 But *as many as received him*, to them gave he *power to become the sons of God*, even to them that believe on his name: 1:13 *Which were born*, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but *of God*.
Will you do that as well? Jesus is waiting for you! Hebrew Masoretic Text (older than ALL English Bible versions) of Psalms 45:6-7 "your throne given of God." This is the correct copy of Hebrews 1:8 quoted by Paul. Psalms 45:6 Catholic Jerusalem Bible confirmed authenticity of the Masoretic Text. Bros, your claim is Spurious. Argue with your keyboard.  |
Christianity Etc › Re: JW 001 Should True Christians Support Wars? by Janosky: 3:36pm On Jul 11, 2021 |
Bishopkingsley: Did you notice that Even those who are not born again are exposing jehova witness for their lies against Jesus every one now sees the truth of who created this Jehovah witness doctrine as a doctrine from the devil Bishop typing GIBBERISH upandan. What do you expect from a "Bishop" whose Triune deity switch off their nature and prayed to themselves @ Matthew 27:46 !  |
Christianity Etc › Re: JW 001 Should True Christians Support Wars? by Janosky: 3:30pm On Jul 11, 2021 |
RussellRutherfo: First Sir, before you start looking for one GROUP or the other to join because I have noticed that those with ITCHY EARS (2 Timothy 4:3-4 KJV) are always fond of what GROUP or the Other to join to be "taught" or to have a "herdsmen" mentality and "Biblical" approach where they will be "roboticized" and directed on how and who to talk to if even their family members start asking serious questions. They will be directed to not talk to even their Fathers or Children when these ones are shunned.
Psalm 11:3 KJV — If the foundations be destroyed, what can the righteous do?
With the Foundations destroyed that is how you will be jumping from one Arian Heretical group to the other. From Islam to JW. If JW is no more today. You might next jump to Scientology or Mormornism or even Atheism which is a complete disregard of God because of illusive search for a "One God" which is not even evident in JW.
The absence and rejection of the Holy Spirit is making you jump everywhere. If you truly Obey God's Word like you claim and quoted then you will be guided to know if JW organization or any other Arian Heretical group like Islam, etcetera is the "truth" or not.
You first quoted Hebrews 13:7 NKJV — Remember those who rule over you, who have spoken the word of God to you, whose faith follow, considering the outcome of their conduct.
If you are honest or you probably are too young and hence don't know the history of Jehovah Witnesses and those who birthed the organization you now subscribe to. In the light of Russel, Rutherford and others in the organization who repeatedly told LIES, CHANGED TEACHINGS AND FALSE PREDICTIONS/PROPHECIES.
Can you honestly claim that this group and the Governing Body that RULE OVER YOU, SPOKEN THE WORD OF GOD TO YOU. Have they truly conducted themselves in a manner that you can correctly IMITATE?
Be honest. Have they? Considering their History?!! According to your Bible, Hebrews 13:7,17, Rutherfo please mention the names of the leaders in Hebrews 13:7,13 who are perfect?  |
Christianity Etc › Re: JW 001 Should True Christians Support Wars? by Janosky: 3:26pm On Jul 11, 2021 |
RussellRutherfo: What happened to learning how to cook yourself instead of risking your health by placing the state of your health in the hands of that same restaurant that employs different cooks with different orientation and who might dish out appetizing looking poorly unhealthy unclean cooked dishes to you that will bring sickness and death in the long run just because you are lazy to cook for yourself.
The restaurant building don't possibly cook by itself. They employ people who do. Are you such a spiritual babe that you need a group of select men to think and organize your eternity?
Where did Jesus have his own Group and what was the name of this Jesus group? Did Jesus despite as a Great Teacher still not attend the Synagogue? Is an affliation with a particular sect just like the Pharisees, Sadducees, etcetera did now show that you are in the "truth"?
You would rather eat food poison from that grand looking restaurant than actually cook for yourself just because a family member pays for your meal everyday there? John 17:6-7, 1 Corinthians 3:23, Acts 15:7-14 , According to Jesus, Paul and Peter, who owns the Group / People chosen to bear Jehovah's name? Bros, argue against Jesus Christ nau  |
Christianity Etc › Re: JW 001 Should True Christians Support Wars? by Janosky: 3:12pm On Jul 11, 2021 |
achorladey: In their material his religious leaders stated clearly that they dish out imperfect food that in fact Jehovah didn't guarantee that his religious leaders will provide perfect spiritual food. In essence that spiritual food contains poison which will in turn lead to what his same religious leaders called MENTALLY DISEASED APOSTATES. He should recognize where the problem is coming from.
Reality tells me he can't pick his Bible and point where in the scriptures based Jesus salvation in joining any religious group. The Church is the people, the believers in God and Jesus Christ His Son, chosen to bear Jehovah's name. Acts 15:6-14 & Isaiah 43:10-12 (ASV) that is where salvation is. Jesus Christ & Paul says they belong to his God and Father. John 17:6-7. 1 Corinthians 3:23. Achorladey argue against Jesus Christ & against your Bible. 1 Corinthians 13:9,12 is Paul's knowledge perfect? JEHOVAH'S Servants knowledge is not perfect. See as Achorladey & all of him 3 pagan deities devotees dey DECEIVE themselves. 
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Christianity Etc › Re: JW 001 Should True Christians Support Wars? by Janosky: 3:05pm On Jul 11, 2021 |
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Christianity Etc › Re: JW 001 Should True Christians Support Wars? by Janosky: 1:28am On Jul 11, 2021 |
johnw47: [s]fraud mumu false jw janosky
God's word doesn't say "pre-incarnate Jesus Christ is angel of the Lord"
someones footnote say's that which you have added to God's word
Proverbs 30:6 Add thou not unto his words, lest he reprove thee, and thou be found a liar.
Joh 8:44 Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.[/s] Genesis 16:7, Malachi 3:1, Amplified Bible/ Geneva Bible © 1599. That is your Trinitarian Bible mentors giving you the bitter pill of Bible truth. Sifia pained WAILER  |
Christianity Etc › Re: JW 001 Should True Christians Support Wars? by Janosky: 1:25am On Jul 11, 2021 |
MightySparrow: We are saying the same thing: God exalted him to his own class - God. John 1:1 John 17 4-5,24.. He was exalted, given the godlike, divine nature. John 14:28 & 1 Corinthians 11:3,Would Jesus grasp the position of his Oga Boss? Can you see that Jesus Christ proven that Trinitarian TWIST of Phillippians 2:6 is untenable? |
Christianity Etc › Re: JW 001 Should True Christians Support Wars? by Janosky: 12:58am On Jul 11, 2021 |
hupernikao: You aren't yet to study the scriptures as a book.
Only Michael as archangel? This error alone flaws all your other explanation, hence I won't address them. Go back and do your proper study of angels in the bible.
Daniel 10:13 But the prince of the kingdom of Persia withstood me one and twenty days: but, lo, Michael, ONE OF the chief princes, came to help me; and I remained there with the kings of Persia.
One (echad). One among others. Chief (arch). A leader. One of the first. The commander.
So go and read properly before you start discussing about angels. It's clear you haven't done your homework well.
I guess also when Satan was referred to having is own angels, he must be have translated to Michael then.
Revelation 12:7 And there was war in heaven: Michael and his angels fought against the dragon; and the dragon fought and his angels,
I guess Michael is fighting Michael.
*1 God was spoken of as "God and his angels". I guess God changed to Michael since its only Michael that command angels.
So, since you are interpreting bible as 1+1=2 then
Michael is Michael Jesus is Michael God is Michael Satan is Michael
*2 Since they were all referred as having their angels. [/b]This is your line of thought with you will still denied as select the one that suit you.
Like I told you, your issues is that you read bible to suit your imagination. Hence neglecting the language and events surrounding the text makes you a poor reader. Correct this. [b]God was spoken of as "God and his angels". I guess God changed to Michael since its only Michael that command angels". **1 Genesis 16:7 Amplified Bible & Geneva Bible.. Double wahala for Trinity GIBBERISH. Bros, Your denial of this verse "angel of the Lord/Jesus Christ, deh this thread oooo. **2. "Simply put the God you see in the old testament is that Jesus". 
Since they were all referred as having their angels."
Bros, is it now crystal clear to you that "THEY" are separate beings? Double wahala for Trinity Fraud.
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Christianity Etc › Re: JW 001 Should True Christians Support Wars? by Janosky: 12:32am On Jul 11, 2021 |
hupernikao: You aren't yet to study the scriptures as a book.
Only Michael as archangel? This error alone flaws all your other explanation, hence I won't address them. Go back and do your proper study of angels in the bible.
Daniel 10:13 But the prince of the kingdom of Persia withstood me one and twenty days: but, lo, Michael, ONE OF the chief princes, came to help me; and I remained there with the kings of Persia.
One (echad). One among others. Chief (arch). A leader. One of the first. The commander.
So go and read properly before you start discussing about angels. It's clear you haven't done your homework well.
I guess also when Satan was referred to having is own angels, he must be have translated to Michael then.
Revelation 12:7 And there was war in heaven: Michael and his angels fought against the dragon; and the dragon fought and his angels,
I guess Michael is fighting Michael.
God was spoken of as "God and his angels". I guess God changed to Michael since its only Michael that command angels.
So, since you are interpreting bible as 1+1=2 then
Michael is Michael Jesus is Michael
God is Michael Satan is Michael
Since they were all referred as having their angels. This is your line of thought with you will still denied as select the one that suit you.
Like I told you, your issues is that you read bible to suit your imagination. Hence neglecting the language and events surrounding the text makes you a poor reader. Correct this. But why would you claim Satan is Michael? @ Revelation 12:7-9,12 is Michael fighting himself? Bros, you are viewing Daniel 10:13 written originally in Hebrew from the perspective or thought /lens of an English speaker. Wrong !!! Any scripture in the old testament, the question to ask is : how do the Hebrew readers understand this verse in their language? Or in the case of NT, how do the Greek readers understand that verse in their own language? Hebrew Lexicon 259 "one of" meaning "the Head /First Commander. Compare the same word @Genesis 4:19,2:11, and Daniel 10:13. 1 Corinthians, Christ the Archangel Michael can't be God. Scriptures explain Scriptures. Shikena! |
Christianity Etc › Re: JW 001 Should True Christians Support Wars? by Janosky: 12:07am On Jul 11, 2021 |
MaxInDHouse: I just sent you a pm, check your mail!  Noted. Thank you my brother,Max.  |
Christianity Etc › Re: JW 001 Should True Christians Support Wars? by Janosky: 11:52pm On Jul 10, 2021 |
RussellRutherfo: This guy and Stephen Lett. I don't know who thrives better at idiocy. I can only imagine you look as imbecilic as Stephen Lett and his facial expressions on TV. The Bros Rutherfo knows the truth is causing him sifia painment.
[b]This is it: Malachi 3:1 1599 Geneva Bible 3 1 Of the messenger of the Lord, John Baptist, and of Christ’s office. 1 Behold, I will send my [a]messenger, and he shall prepare the way before me: and the Lord whom ye seek, shall speedily come to his Temple: even the [c]messenger of the Covenant, whom ye desire: behold, he shall come, saith the Lord of hosts. Footnotes a. Malachi 3:1 This is meant of John Baptist, as Christ expoundeth it, Luke 7:27. b. Malachi 3:1 Meaning, Messiah, Ps. 40:1, 7; Dan. 9:17, 25. c. Malachi 3:1 That is, Christ, by whom the covenant was made and ratified, who is called the Angel or messenger of the covenant, because he reconcileth us to his father and is Lord or king, because he hath the government of his Church." ++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Malachi 3:1 Amplified Bible The Purifier 3 “Behold, I am going to send My [a]messenger, and he will prepare and clear the way before Me. And the Lord [the Messiah], whom you seek, will suddenly come to His temple; the Messenger of the covenant, in whom you delight, [/b]behold, He is coming,” says the Lord of hosts.(A) Footnotes [b]b.Malachi 3:1 The Messiah as God’s representative will confirm and establish the covenant (see Is 42:6). ++++++++++++++++++ Jesus is the messenger/Angel of the covenant , Confirmento !!Bros, go & quarrel with your Trinity mentors for exposure of your fallacies. The words of the holy Scriptures (Genesis 16:7, (Amplified Bible), Daniel 10:13 (Geneva Bible ©1599) is "imbecilic" to Rutherfo bigot DECEIVING himself. |
Christianity Etc › Re: JW 001 Should True Christians Support Wars? by Janosky: 11:26pm On Jul 10, 2021 |
RussellRutherfo:

This year's "Powerful by Faith" Convention Propaganda Summit that they held online. You know that they were unable to sell their Magazines offline at the different stadiums where they usually gathered people at so they were openly begging online for GENEROUS DONATIONS to be made at donate.jw.org this year.
This COVID-19 thing affected their magazine and real estate business badly plus they are getting more exposed in the developed world for their several Child abuse covered up cases.
Na only African JW brothers like MaxDintheHouse and his fellow Ignorant African brothers the Governing Body still dey deceive. In the West they are getting slammed left and right with lawsuits for their child abuse cover and shunning nonsense that they previously castigated the Catholic Church for doing what is unbiblical but years after changed themselves. LIAR Rutherfo ! According to Screenshots evidences.... Shame on you, bigot ! 
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Christianity Etc › Re: JW 001 Should True Christians Support Wars? by Janosky: 11:21pm On Jul 10, 2021 |
omojeesu: May Jehovah deliver you from your blindness! Jesus an angel?
Hebrews
1:1 God, who at sundry times and in divers manners spake in time past unto the fathers by the prophets, 1:2 Hath in these last days spoken unto us by his Son, whom he hath appointed heir of all things, by whom also he made the worlds; 1:3 Who being the brightness of his glory, and the express image of his person, and upholding all things by the word of his power, when he had by himself purged our sins, sat down on the right hand of the Majesty on high; 1:4 Being made so much better than the angels, as he hath by inheritance obtained a more excellent name than they. 1:5 For unto which of the angels said he at any time, Thou art my Son, this day have I begotten thee? And again, I will be to him a Father, and he shall be to me a Son? 1:6 And again, when he bringeth in the firstbegotten into the world, he saith, And let all the angels of God worship him. 1:7 And of the angels he saith, Who maketh his angels spirits, and his ministers a flame of fire. 1:8 But unto the Son he saith, Thy throne, O God, is for ever and ever: a sceptre of righteousness is the sceptre of thy kingdom. 1:9 Thou hast loved righteousness, and hated iniquity; therefore God, even thy God, hath anointed thee with the oil of gladness above thy fellows. 1:10 And, Thou, Lord, in the beginning hast laid the foundation of the earth; and the heavens are the works of thine hands: 1:11 They shall perish; but thou remainest; and they all shall wax old as doth a garment; 1:12 And as a vesture shalt thou fold them up, and they shall be changed: but thou art the same, and thy years shall not fail. 1:13 But to which of the angels said he at any time, Sit on my right hand, until I make thine enemies thy footstool? 1:14 Are they not all ministering spirits, sent forth to minister for them who shall be heirs of salvation?
Conclusion:
Jesus is God-kind in origin, in essence and not angel-kind. He is neither an angel nor Archangel Michael. Psalms 45:6-7, Hebrew language Masoretic Text proven your Trinitarian TWIST of Hebrews 1:8 is a FRAUD. Psalms 45:6-7 is the original copy of Hebrews 1:8-9. Daniel 10:13-15 1599 Geneva Bible 13 But the [a]prince of the kingdom of Persia withstood me one and twenty days: but lo, [b]Michael one of the chief princes, came to help me, and I remained there by the Kings of Persia. Footnotes Daniel 10:13 Meaning, Daniel 10:13 Though God could by one Angel destroy all the world, yet to assure his children of his love, he sendeth forth double power, even Michael, that is, Christ Jesus the head of Angels. According to your Trinitarian mentors and your Trinitarian Bible, JWs are correct. Bros, roger that.  |
Christianity Etc › Re: JW 001 Should True Christians Support Wars? by Janosky: 11:13pm On Jul 10, 2021 |
RussellRutherfo: This is something predominant with JWs. They yap same regurgitated balderdash from same source and appluad themselves as making a whole lot of "sense" and get angry when you won't just swallow hook, line and sinker the regurgitated balderdash they picked from their Governing Body. Daniel 10:13-15 1599 Geneva Bible 13 But the [a]prince of the kingdom of Persia withstood me one and twenty days: but lo, [b]Michael one of the chief princes, came to help me, and I remained there by the Kings of Persia.
Footnotes Daniel 10:13 Meaning, Daniel 10:13 Though God could by one Angel destroy all the world, yet to assure his children of his love, he sendeth forth double power, even Michael, that is, Christ Jesus the head of Angels.Bad Belle , enemy of the truth.  |
Christianity Etc › Re: JW 001 Should True Christians Support Wars? by Janosky: 11:04pm On Jul 10, 2021 |
Bishopkingsley: MightySparrow: 1 In the beginning was the Archangel Michael and the Archangel Michael was with God, and the Archangel Michael was God. 2 The same ( archangel Michael) was in the beginning with God. 3 All things were made by him (archangel Michael); and without him (Archangel Michael) was not any thing made that was made. 4 In him (Archangel Michael) was life; and the life was the light of men. 5 And the light shineth in darkness; and the darkness comprehended it not.
Isaiah 9:6 6 For unto us a Archangel Michael is born, unto us a Archangel Michael is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace.
Archangel Michael shall be called Everlasting Father.
John 5: 23 That all men should honour the Archangel Michael, even as they honour the Father. He that honoureth not the Archangel Michael honoureth not the Father which hath sent him.
This is the kind of thing jehova witness preach does it not sound satanic [b] Genesis 16:7 Amplified Bible 7 But [a]the Angel of the Lord [/b]found her by a spring of water in the wilderness, on the road to [Egypt by way of] Shur. Footnotes Genesis 16:7 This is the first occurrence of “Angel of the Lord (YHWH)” in Scripture. The Hebrew word for “angel” means “messenger” (an angel of God is a special messenger from God who speaks for and is closely identified with Him) and context determines whether the messenger is an angel or a human. The same is true for Greek, and the word “angel” is an English form (transliteration) of the Gr aggelos. The Angel of the Lord can be a special case, however. Many Bible scholars believe that this Angel may be a theophany, that is, a physical manifestation of God, in which case the word Angel is capitalized. The Angel of the Lord may, based on context, be the pre-incarnate Christ, the Son of God.
The Trinitarian Amplified Bible says their Triune deity, "pre-incarnate Jesus Christ is angel of the Lord, Yahweh, him Boss.
Jesus Christ is Archangel Michael. The Bible says JWs are correct. Hallelujah !!!!!
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Christianity Etc › Re: JW 001 Should True Christians Support Wars? by Janosky: 10:56pm On Jul 10, 2021 |
RussellRutherfo: This Pedophile Publisher.
You are always screaming curse words at people. You are representing your god-Rutherford very well. Na so the mugu and New Hater, Rutherford go dey buy Rolls-Royce and Beth Sarin Mansion for his Secretary he was having an amorous relationship with why claiming that it was for supposed resurrected Bible characters and as with anything JW failed. Bros, continue making FALSE claims and type GIBBERISH. Na your way.  |
Christianity Etc › Re: ⚫⚫⚫⚫ Just Like God, Satan Also Has His Own Trinity Of Evil by Janosky: 11:59pm On Jul 09, 2021 |
Bishopkingsley: That is the truth They put a then refused to put big G
Just because they hate Jesus the same way Satan hate Jesus Greek Theos have 2 meanings in English. "God / a god." Ho Logos was with ho theos-the Father/the God Almighty The second theos "the word was God/a god" is NOT ho theos-the Father/God Almighty. The same Greek 1510 2316 is @ Acts 28:6 & John 1:1- "was a god". Bishop, your Bibles evidences (study the Screenshots carefully) proven your claim is FALSE. 
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Christianity Etc › Re: ⚫⚫⚫⚫ Just Like God, Satan Also Has His Own Trinity Of Evil by Janosky: 11:49pm On Jul 09, 2021 |
Bishopkingsley: My only question is why do you people hate Jesus the same way devil hate Jesus You can not come online to discredit John 20:17, John 3:16,36 & Revelation 3:12,21 & the words of Jesus Christ & pretend you love him.
Besides you believe portions of Scriptures tainted with omissions & additions by men to discredit the words of the son of God@ John 20:17, John 3:16,36 & Revelation 3:12,21.  |
Christianity Etc › Re: ⚫⚫⚫⚫ Just Like God, Satan Also Has His Own Trinity Of Evil by Janosky: 11:39pm On Jul 09, 2021 |
Bishopkingsley: You know it the truth read the real Greek letters You resorted to LYING that JWs insert definite article into John 1:1. Abeg park well with your GIBBERISH.  |
Christianity Etc › Re: ⚫⚫⚫⚫ Just Like God, Satan Also Has His Own Trinity Of Evil by Janosky: 11:20pm On Jul 09, 2021*. Modified: 11:36pm On Jul 09, 2021 |
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Actually there should not be any confusion on these points at all unless you have been allowing 'Jehovah's Witnesses' to confuse you (which, I suspect, you have). Opinion is not really as 'diverse' as you may have been led to believe.
[s]John 1:1 clearly reveals the deity of Christ. Please note: *The Word was with God, and the Word was God (NKJV). *The Word was with God, and the Word was God (NIV). *The Word was with God, and the Word was God (KJV). *The Logos was with God, the Logos was divine (Moffatt). *The Word dwelt with God, and what God was, the Word was (NEB). [/s] *[s]The Word was with God, and the Word was God (RSV). *The Word was with God, and the nature of the Word was the same as the nature of God (Barclay). *That word was with God and was God (Phillips *The Word was with God, and the Word was God (NASB). *The Word was with God, and the Word was God (ASV). *The Word was with God, and the Word was God (Douay-Rheims). [/s] *[s]The Word was with God, and the Word was God (Darby). *The Word was with God, and the Word was God (ERV). *The Word was with God, and the Word was God (Weymouth). *The Word was with God, and the Word was God (Young's Literal). [/b][/s]
In contrast, the New World Translation (that is, the JW 'Bible') renders this part of John 1:1 in a most unusual way: 'The Word was with God, and the Word was a god.' This is a clumsy and incorrect way of translating John 1:1 and the JWs only do it for doctrinal reasons (that is: because they accept 'Arianism' which has long been a heresy of established Christianity;
Arianism allows Jesus to be God's highest creation, but not God). Please note that every major translation recognises that the original Greek insists that there is no qualitative difference between the Word and God - despite this, the NWT insists on demoting the Word to 'a god.'
The indefinite article (that is: a) does not, by the way, occur in the Greek but is inserted by the Witnesses to represent a Jesus who is separate from God. This flawed device simply will not do if one is going to be faithful to the Greek and even liberal Bible scholars have never suggested the downgrading of the Word in the manner in which the 'New World Translation' does (that is, as "a god" - an indefinite article and no capital 'G').
This is a flagrant betrayal of what the Greek very clearly states and puts the NWT at odds with about 40 other English Bibles which have no difficulty in correctly interpreting the Greek text. In complete contrast, the New Testament is clear about the divinity of Jesus: Matthew 28:19-20; Ephesians 1:23; John 4:25-29; 6:64-65; 13:11; 19:28; 21:17.
1. He knew their thoughts: Matthew 9:4; 12:25; 22:18; Mark 2:8; 12:15; Luke 5:22; 6:8; 9:47; 11:17; John 2:24-25; 5:42; 6:6,64-65; 16:19,30; Acts 1:24.
2. He knew the future: Matthew 16:21; 20:18-19; John 2:19,21-22; 12:23-24,32-33.
3. He is Eternal: 1 Timothy 1:17; 6:14-16; Hebrews 7:24-25; Revelation 1:4-5,8,17; 2:8; 21:6; 22:13.
4. He is pre-existent to Creation: John 1:1-3,10; 3:13; 6:62; 8:34-36,58; 17:3-5,24; 1 Corinthians 8:6; Philippians 2:5-11; Colossians 1:13-20; Hebrews 1:2; Revelation 13:8.
Yes, in Hebrews 1:8, the writer of Hebrews indeed calls Jesus 'O, God.'
✹✹✹✹✹✹✹✹✹✹✹✹✹✹✹ Bishop, do yourself a world of good and acknowledge the Source you copied this GIBBERISH.
Copy copy plagiarist
Where is your evidences for your FALSE claims that JWs insert Greek 3588 (the) definite article in John 1:1?
LIENUS, Hebrews 1:6 copied Psalms 45:6. Read Psalms 45:6-7 , Masoretic Texts is older than any English Bible you know. "God is your throne/ Your throne given of God" (Confirmed by Jesus @ Revelation 3:21 "my Father's throne" . Read both Screenshots evidences. It is super accurate. Your Trinity mentors DUBIOUSLY omitted the Greek 3588 lexicon from John 1:1 lexicon to DECEIVE you.
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Christianity Etc › Re: ⚫⚫⚫⚫ Just Like God, Satan Also Has His Own Trinity Of Evil by Janosky: 11:05pm On Jul 09, 2021 |
Bishopkingsley: [s]I told you your Bible was demonic from the devil because devil hate people to call Jesus the man that defeated him devil hate people to call him God
Devil defeated the first Adam but a life giving spirit Jesus dealt with him all Satan children the only thing they know is to hate Jesus the same way their father the devil hates him
God said Jesus name is higher than all names in the universe so when devil and his children hear that name Jesus is God they become so angry to the extent of creating their own Bible to pull people to their evil cult
The aim of the devil actually is to make Jesus look like a common man so that his name will be come common so that it will not have effect
But God word stand sure forever this Jesus is still tormenting devil and his children on earth[/s] Shuuuoooo !!!!! John 1:1 the word is ho Logos. Greek 3588 ho ...(the) Ho Logos-the word was with ho theos-the God.@ John 14:1, John 17:3 , John 1:1 & John 20:17, Bishop,in your own Bible lexicon, who did John and Jesus call "ho theos -the God"?
Bishop, answer the question.. 
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Christianity Etc › Re: ⚫⚫⚫⚫ Just Like God, Satan Also Has His Own Trinity Of Evil by Janosky: 10:18pm On Jul 09, 2021 |
Bishopkingsley: The apparent differences in spelling between the word ‘God’ in the phrase ‘and the Word was God’ (‘theos’) and in other places, (even in the previous phrase, ‘and the Word was with God’ (‘theon’)) is due to inflection in the Greek language.
Each Greek noun normally has 8 or 9 forms (cases & number) in which it can appear. (). In the first instance in John 1:1 it is the object of preposition and thus is in the accusative case. In the phrase in question,
it is in the nominative case (indicating the subject or predicate nominative - equal to the subject). But it is the same word for ‘God’, and in both phrases here indicates the One and Only True God.
So the apparent difference is spelling is not because ‘theos’ is a different word than ‘theon’, but is a different form of the identical word. Whether there is inflection, that is not the point. @ John 1:1 the word is ho Logos. Greek 3588 ho ...(the) Ho Logos-the word was with ho theos-the God. @ John 14:1, John 17:3 , John 1:1 & John 20:17, Bishop,in your own Bible lexicon, who did John and Jesus call "ho theos -the God"?  |
Christianity Etc › Re: ⚫⚫⚫⚫ Just Like God, Satan Also Has His Own Trinity Of Evil by Janosky: 9:50pm On Jul 09, 2021 |
Bishopkingsley: Am still doing the research I was busy today I could have done the research I will but my point remains those Bible that gave the correct words out number your fake Bible Greek lexicon 1513 2316 = was a god. Proof : Acts 28:6 & John 1:1. Greek 2316 theos ,2nd meaning is "a god". In John 1:1, first theos - 'ho theos' the Father. In John 1:1 "the word,2nd theos means "a god" IYKYK.People also ask What does the verse John 1 1 mean? [It] is clear that in the translation "the Word was God", the term God is being used to denote his nature or essence, and not his person. ... This verse is echoed in the Nicene Creed: "God (qualitative or derivative) from God (personal, the Father), Light from Light, True God from True God… homoousion with the Father."
John 1:1 "the word was divine/a god.
The word is Not ho theos -the God, his Father. 
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Christianity Etc › Re: ⚫⚫⚫⚫ Just Like God, Satan Also Has His Own Trinity Of Evil by Janosky: 9:39pm On Jul 09, 2021 |
Bishopkingsley: I don't see any new question here what are you getting into or trying to say... Sorry 1John 5:7 There are three that testify /bear witness." Anything more than this is FRAUD,not Holy Scriptures. Do not add or subtract. God's Commanded. |
Christianity Etc › Re: ⚫⚫⚫⚫ Just Like God, Satan Also Has His Own Trinity Of Evil by Janosky: 9:36pm On Jul 09, 2021 |
Bishopkingsley: No it not let say it ts the number of Bible that wrote the correct one out number yours That Screenshot is Greek interlinear word for word English. It's accurate ooo. |
Christianity Etc › Re: ⚫⚫⚫⚫ Just Like God, Satan Also Has His Own Trinity Of Evil by Janosky: 9:34pm On Jul 09, 2021 |
Bishopkingsley: My sheep hear my voice Those who belong to God will definitely hear him [s]Once you show example and explain the scripture three times if the person refuses to hear know they are not meant to be saved We know the first question that devil said to eve that destroyed mankind
So his children always follow his footstep[/s] I know you believe a virgin gave birth to Jesus but if I ask you to prove how scientifically possible you won't be able to But inside you you accepted it by Fath A virgin can be artificially inseminated & she will give birth without sexual relationship with a man. Very possible scientifically. Bishop, Where did your own Bible says "those who belong to God will definitely hear God switched off God in him and spoke as a man? |
Christianity Etc › Re: Is The Holy Spirit 'god?' by Janosky: 9:11pm On Jul 09, 2021 |
MightySparrow: God is a Spirit, John 4: 24, what gender is God? Angels do not have gender Matt 22: 30 So? hupernikao: This isn't true with Greek lexicon.
In Greek as in most ancient languages, the Grammatical Gender Is Not the Same as Personal Gender.
You have mixed the above up.
Just like ruach (spirit) in Hebrew is feminine and masculine in Aramiac (these are languages used in writing the Bible). We can't use this grammatical gender to identify the gender personality. Those languages arent constructed like that.
You will need to study Greek word structure and construction better. Where in your Bible is God Almighty referenced as "it /itself"? |