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Kingsnairaland:
I was shocked when I saw it in their Bible that their almighty god is the throne of angel Michael that means Michael used his yansh (azz) to sit on their god see what twisting Bible can bring

maximunimpact:
Answer this first

Kingsnairaland:
[s]So among the heavy lies outlined the only one you focus on is just small issues that the writer wrote about women and husband relationships to show you you don't care about their scriptural lies
Jesus specifically warned us that those who lie their true father is the devil saying you know when amagedom will happen shows that you disrespect God who kept it secret[/s]

omojeesu:
Those on the way to hell won't listen to counsel.

Do you now acknowledge the truth of Catholicism?

Why is the rendering in your heritical NWT different from the Masoretic and Catholic version?

*God is your throne forever* and ever;
The scepter of your kingdom is a scepter of uprightness

Archangel Michael has God as His throne abi?

Why don't you bow your knees to Jesus in repentance. He is still waiting for you.

omojeesu:
Your unbelieving mind is not surprising! May you not be beyond redemption. Amen.

Who didn't know that the Hebrew quote of Son being God came from the Psalms? Paul gave the proper application to Jesus Christ in the light of the gospel and the New Testament. And you are so blind that you can't see that?

Did you read the other parts? Highlighting one verse and you *cleverly* dodged the other verses!!

And what has Daniel 9 got to do with Jesus? Totally out of context!!

2 [s]Corinthians

4:3 But if our gospel be hid, it is hid to them that are *lost*:

4:4 In whom the *god of this world hath blinded the minds* of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them.

Revelation

21:6 And he said unto me, It is done. *I am Alpha and Omega*, the beginning and the end. I will give unto him that is athirst of the fountain of the water of life freely.

21:7 He that overcometh shall inherit all things; and I will be his God, and he shall be my son.

21:8 But *the fearful*, and *unbelieving*, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and *all liars*, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the *second death*.

You and your deceived are at risk of the Lake of Fire. Stop the lying!

Repent now before it is too late!
Become a child of God.

Allow God to give birth to you and become a new creature, born again, born of God, born of the Spirit.

Matthew 6:33

But *seek ye first the kingdom* of God, and his righteousness; and all these things shall be added unto you.

*To enter the Kingdom you must be born into it spiritually because the Kingdom is spiritual in reality.

John

3:3 Jesus answered and said unto him, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, *Except* a man be born again, he *cannot* see the kingdom of God.

3:5 Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, *Except* a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he *cannot enter* into the kingdom of God.

3:6 That which is born of the flesh is flesh; and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit.

3:7 *Marvel not* that I said unto thee, *Ye must* be born again.

I became a child of God in 1983 when l obeyed the above and John 1.10-13:

John

1:10 He was in the world, and the world was made by him, and the world knew him not.
1:11 He came unto his own, and his own received him not.
1:12 But *as many as received him*, to them gave he *power to become the sons of God*, even to them that believe on his name:
1:13 *Which were born*, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but *of God*.

Will you do that as well? Jesus is waiting for you![/s]

livingchrist:
One of the function of the tree of life is to cause permanence in whatever condition or state in which it is eaten.

After Adam and eve ate from the tree of life, sin entered them and they fell from God's glory. [/b]They were judged and condemned for their sin, since they were in a fallen state, lost and far from God [b]eating from the tree of life would make their pathetic and miserable condition permanent for all eternity it would mean sin would remain for ever and the creation cursed for ever.
God showed his mercy by driving them away from the tree of life so as not to sentence themselves to eternal misery.

PARACLETOS:
That was a clear issue of their personal lives.
Understand where we are coming from.... From the fact that Rutherford and Russell TAUGHT AND PREACH TO MILLIONS WHAT YOU HAVE RETRACTED NOW.

YOU CLAIM THE APOSTLES DID SAME.
IT A MATTER OF DOCTRINE OF CHRIST NOT THEIR PERSONAL WAY OF LIFE. AM TALKING ABOUT WHAT THEY TAUGHT PEOPLE. SHOW ME WHERE THEY RETRACTED THEIR TEACHINGS.

DON'T MIX UP THINGS.

PARACLETOS:
1. Mention the name of the APOSTLE that committed the "error" in Acts. 4:34-5:11?.

2. We're the disciples "teaching" people that lifestyle in Mark. 14:7? Truly not. Of course Christ was still with them. Now after Christ left them, from Acts of the Apostles to Revelation show me their ERRORS?

3. About John 16:12-13.... After the Holy spirit came, show me where they committed any error again?

Always quoting scriptures out of context.... Its shameful

PARACLETOS:
Point out just ONE ERROR THAT THE APOSTLES MADE in the scriptures.

PARACLETOS:
Another LIE is preaching and teaching that Jesus was "CREATED"

If I ask you to point out just one portion that says He was created, you will start telling me stories. Your lies are second to none.

Bishopkingsley:
Am sorry again the mark is the holy spirit presence in their lives with the evidence of speaking in tongues

PARACLETOS:
Indeed you are a professional liar!

Are you in a Jehovah's Witnesses different from the one Russell founded?

PARACLETOS:
You dare not say that.
I asked you yesterday in one of my questions to show me where the apostles RETRACTED THEIR TEACHINGS as the False WatchTower witnesses are doing. You could not. Shame on you!!

This was my issue and you are trying to divert from it.

Bishopkingsley:
Our God is every where

PARACLETOS:
If you actually assimilated and comprehend the meaning of "witness" as I have evidently pointed out, you wouldn't have argued again. Sorry I won't respond to you again.

PARACLETOS:
Contradiction continues!
Your brother Maxi says that Rutherford was a Mouthpiece of God confirming what your WatchTower has taught for years, but you are now saying Jesus is the mouthpieces of God.
So between Rutherford WatchTower MOUTHPIECE and Jesus Christ MOUTHPIECE, which one should we follow and obey?

PARACLETOS:
This one just came out from nowhere to type what he doesn't understand. Have you taken your time to read what I posted about "witnesse"?
Who is a witness in the law Court? Since you think you too sabi

PARACLETOS:
Here is what they have to say about that word which is translated witness. (mariureo - ****): "*1.
To affirm that one has seen or heard or experienced something.Of the apostles, as those who had been eye and ear witnesses of the extraordinary sayings, deeds, and suffering of Jesus, which proved his messiahship.. So, too, Paul, as one to whom the risen Lord had visibly appeared" (Thayer). #2.
Kittel, in his Theological Dictionary of the New Testament defines the word thus: "Establishment of events or actual relations or facts of experience on the basis of direct personal knowledge." He says that it was a legal term: "One who can and does speak from personal experience about actions in which he took part and which happened to him." (He was defining the cognate martus - ****). He further elaborates upon it in its original sense: "The man who can speak about them from his own direct knowledge." And, he reiterates: "On the basis of first hand knowledge."

Thayer, in defining the term martus, says: "A witness, one who avers, or can aver, what he himself has seen or heard or knows by any other means. One who is a spectator of anything."

So, I can deny that they are Jehovah's Witnesses! In the light of what the Bible says on the subject, we must contradict and refute the claim they make. The passages they quote to substantiate their profession are taken out of context and, therefore, do not apply. They are but a false front in an effort to bolster their allegation.
It was to the apostles that Jesus said: " You shall be witnesses to Me . . ." (Acts 1:8 ). It was concerning the apostles Peter made reference when he said: "We are His witnesses . . ." (Acts 5:32). It was the apostles who had been put into the common prison (v. 25) and, in verse 29, Luke relates, "But Peter and the other apostles . . ." There is absolutely no way for these people to be witnesses. They were not spectators. They have neither seen nor heard what originally transpired and what was taught by Jesus. [/b]In fact, if these people who call themselves Jehovah's Witnesses had never lived, the word of God would still be true. It was through these original witnesses that the word of God was revealed(I Corinthians 2:8-10; Hebrews 2:2-4), and it was by these same inspired witnesses that the word of God was confirmed(Mark 16:20). No man today can reveal the word of God. No man today can confirm it, establish it, or verify it! So, no man today can be a witness. We can relate the word of God to others; we can tell the story of God's love and sacrifice; but be assured that the message would be true and irrefutable if none of us had ever been born.

THE WATCHTOWER WITNESSES ARE FALSE WITNESSES

PARACLETOS:
You don't understand what you just said.
If Russell was or is the MOUTHPIECE of God, what then is JESUS? Heb. 1:1-2

PARACLETOS:
JEHOVAH'S WITNESS, A MISNOMER

The name this religious group has chosen to call themselves is a misdesignation. It is not only inaccurate, but, more than that, it is false and misleading. What I am saying is: They are not witnesses of Jehovah! The word witness belongs to a family of New Testament words which are used almost 200 times. I have examined a number of New Testament language scholars as to its meaning and use. Here is what they have to say about that word which is translated witness. (mariureo - ****): "To affirm that one has seen or heard or experienced something. Of the apostles, as those who had been eye and ear witnesses of the extraordinary sayings, deeds, and suffering of Jesus, which proved his messiahship. So, too, Paul, as one to whom the risen Lord had visibly appeared" (Thayer). Kittel, in his Theological Dictionary of the New Testament defines the word thus: "Establishment of events or actual relations or facts of experience on the basis of direct personal knowledge." He says that it was a legal term: "One who can and does speak from personal experience about actions in which he took part and which happened to him." (He was defining the cognate martus - ****). He further elaborates upon it in its original sense: "The man who can speak about them from his own direct knowledge." And, he reiterates: "On the basis of first hand knowledge."

Thayer, in defining the term martus, says: "A witness, one who avers, or can aver, what he himself has seen or heard or knows by any other means. One who is a spectator of anything."

So, I can deny that they are Jehovah's Witnesses! In the light of what the Bible says on the subject, we must contradict and refute the claim they make. The passages they quote to substantiate their profession are [b]taken out of context and, therefore, do not apply. They are but a false front in an effort to bolster their allegation.[/b]
It was to the apostles that Jesus said: " You shall be witnesses to Me . . ." (Acts 1:8 ). It was concerning the apostles Peter made reference when he said: "We are His witnesses . . ." (Acts 5:32). It was the apostles who had been put into the common prison (v. 25) and, in verse 29, Luke relates, "But Peter and the other apostles . . ." There is absolutely no way for these people to be witnesses. They were not spectators. They have neither seen nor heard what originally transpired and what was taught by Jesus. In fact, if these people who call themselves Jehovah's Witnesses had never lived, the word of God would still be true. It was through these original witnesses that the word of God was revealed(I Corinthians 2:8-10; Hebrews 2:2-4), and it was by these same inspired witnesses that the word of God was confirmed(Mark 16:20). No man today can reveal the word of God. No man today can confirm it, establish it, or verify it! So, no man today can be a witness. We can relate the word of God to others; we can tell the story of God's love and sacrifice; but be assured that the message would be true and irrefutable if none of us had ever been born.

THE WATCHTOWER WITNESSES ARE FALSE WITNESSES

Bishopkingsley:
The God son Jesus can ascend to the father God

Bishopkingsley:
By denying the Trinity and teaching that Jehovah God is supreme and Jesus is an inferior god on the order of Michael the Archangel, the Jehovah’s Witnesses are actually polytheistic—they believe in multiple gods.

Mormonism is a religious system that believes in many gods and denies the Trinity.

Furthermore, Jesus identified Himself as God several times. Three times in John 8, Jesus declared that He was Almighty God. “Therefore I said to you that you will die in your sins; for if you do not believe that I am He, you will die in your sins” (John 8:24).

Jesus proclaimed Himself to be the I Am who spoke to Moses out of the burning bush (Exodus 3:14).

He does the same thing in John 8:28 and John 8:58. The Jewish leaders understood exactly what He claimed, and they attempted to stone Him for claiming to be God (John 8:59).

The Jews tried to do the same thing in John 10 after Jesus declared, “I and My Father are one” (John 10:30).

Jesus asked why they wanted to stone Him, and they replied, “For a good work we do not stone You, but for blasphemy, and because You, being a Man, make Yourself God” (John 10:33).

Contrary to the beliefs of the Jehovah’s Witnesses and Mormons, the Bible refers to Jesus as fully God. “For in Him [Christ] dwells all the fullness of the Godhead bodily” (Colossians 2:9, bracketed information added).

Paul wrote that we should live in a godly manner, “looking for the blessed hope and glorious appearing of our great God and Savior Jesus Christ” (Titus 2:13).

Even “doubting Thomas,” upon seeing the resurrected Lord, said to Jesus, “My Lord and my God!” (John 20:28). The fact is that Jesus is unequivocally called God in multiple passages.

Conclusion

The Bible is quite clear—there is one true God, and He exists in three Persons: God the Father, God the Son, and God the Holy Spirit. There is salvation in no other God. This Trinitarian God is eternal as stated in Isaiah.

God is one Being in three Persons.

BassReeves:
Hebrews 7:3
'Without [any record of] father or mother, nor ancestral line,
without [any record of] beginning of days (birth) nor ending of life (death),
but having been made like the Son of God, he remains a priest without interruption and without successor.'

Melchizedek was the king of Salem and priest of El Elyon aka Most High God

Now wrt to 'who has no father or mother no end of days', what that means is that there was no trace of records of his birth and death. Unlike Jesus Christ our Lord and Saviour of the world, Melchizedek's genealogy and/or pedigree is not official known. The Melchizedek priesthood unlike the Levitical Priesthood has no record line of descent, and so the priesthood is unique, so aside the fact that his name Melchizedek , means king of righteousness and king of Salem means king of peace the other similar Apostle Paul was drumming up here was that Melchizedek's priesthood was unique, just as the Priesthood of Jesus Christ, our Lord and Saviour of the world, is unique, and unlike the Levitical priesthood that the Israelites or Jews are accustomed to, familiar with or even used to

Melchizedek definitely had a father, had a mother, did die, but there arent any official records of this. Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence of his father, mother or no end of days.

Nope. Melchizedek is not talking about being God because if you carefully, closely and correctly read the bible, you'll have noticed that the operative word used in Hebrews 7:3 was resembling. Resemble means look or seem like, it doesnt mean same.

Melchizedek is a human being and not God. Jesus Christ, our Lord and Saviour of the world, is a human being and God, in fact humanity and divinity

Bishopkingsley:
Am say one being which manifested himself in three dimensions even in the three dimensions he shows him self in each dimension he is still called God

That what Trinity means that what the bible shows

Bishopkingsley:
Even though you see the original dead sea scroll in brown picture up on the screen shot you still continue to doubt

May God open your eyes

Bishopkingsley:
One is one God can never be three beings joined together that looks like they were created when they eventually joined so that why the scriptures state one in three

Bishopkingsley:
I thought I explained it with my own prove the Greek manuscript was written in capital letters

Notice all the words were in capital letters both in our own and yours but at the last part your people changed it to god

Bishopkingsley:
Your demonic Bible won't stand here sorry....

Nearly every cult and false religion denies the doctrine of the Trinity.

Two of the major cults that do this are Mormonism and Jehovah’s Witnesses.

The Jehovah’s Witnesses believe that Jesus is not Jehovah God. Instead, they believe that He is a god but not the one and only true God. Jehovah’s Witnesses have their own version of the Bible called the New World Translation.

This version translates John 1:1 erroneously. While the inerrant Word of God states, “In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God” (John 1:1), the New World Translation presents the last phrase of the verse this way: “and the Word was a god” (emphasis added).

The article “a” is not in the original Greek. A rule in Greek grammar states that when an anarthrous (no article) predicate nominative is present it is for emphasis.

The noun is “Word” and the predicate nominative is “God.” Since no article is present before the predicate nominative, “God,” the verse is testifying that the Word (Jesus) is God.

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When John wrote "ho theos" at John 20:17, John 14:1, John 17:3 & John 1:1, did he refer to Jesus Christ?

achorladey:
Show where Jesus based salvation in joining a RELIGIOUS GROUP. Make I bold am well

achorladey:
Na everytime your the abundance of your heart leads your mouth and fingers to type deception. Na your mode of operations. You will use our deception to teach the truth elsewhere. No be today you start am. You still never show where Jesus based salvation in joining a religious group yet you shout DECEPTION

RussellRutherfo:


This Pedophile Publisher employee of the WatchTower Babble Crap and Tracts Selling Real Estate Society.

All these nonsense you wrote up.


You just dey shout Geneva Bible 1599 since morning so do you accept Geneva Bible now as better than NWT of the JW?

Please, can you copy and paste 1599 Geneva Bible rendition of John 1:1-2 and why the Poison New World Translation Bible rendition of John 1:1-2 by JW says otherwise?

Why you no accept 1599 Geneva Bible of John 1:1-2 but you dey look Daniel 10:13?
Cults just like their fellow Arian Heretics group: Islam always cherry picking what part that they like and making a mountain out of a molehill.

Geneva Bible 1599:
John 1:1,2,14,15,16
In the beginning was that Word, and that Word was with God, and that Word was God.This same was in the beginning with God.And that Word was made flesh, and dwelt among vs, (and we sawe the glorie thereof, as the glorie of the onely begotten Sonne of the Father) full of grace and trueth.Iohn bare witnesse of him, and cryed, saying, This was he of whom I said, He that commeth after me, was before me: for he was better then I.And of his fulnesse haue all we receiued, and grace for grace.


Poison New World Translation Bible:
John 1:1
1 In the beginning was the Word,+ and the Word was with God,+ and the Word was a god.*


The Hebrew Scriptures of the Poison New World Satan's Translation Bible is based on the works of a Jesus rejecter, Rudolf Kittel. Can you show us how these verses and commentaries were rendered in the Biblia Hebraica

All of a sudden na Geneva Bible your don like
Pedophile Publisher employee of the WatchTower Babble Crap Society.

RussellRutherfo:
Still adding more evidences to easily show how satanic these JW liars are.
They tell lies in one breath and misinterpret the Bible in the next.

Everyone head to the website to see many of JW young ones who were sexually abused by JW pedophiles who were approved by the GB that puppet controls them.

JW: Powerful by Pedophilia

RussellRutherfo:
This is not an insult to you but you are possessed and mentally disturbed. For real, Do you really read these Bible verses you post or you just lift directly from the JW site and repost for us.

Do you really understand and know how to read in English language?

What other language can you read so maybe we might read in that language and see if you can be loosed from these captivity that GB has tied you in.

Was there a demarcation of some part of the Church claiming to be the only "Truth" and the rest as to be destroyed?
Even a Sect of the the PHARISEES were Believers in the Church and they questioned according to how they understood the Old Hebrew Scriptures but they were still part of the Church. You can see from even other translations. Did Paul and Barnabas act in a foolish manner like the Governing Body to claim that no one can question anything? That if these Believers who had a sort of Pharisees understanding of the Scriptures be DISFELLOWSHIPED and SHUNNED if they ask an UNSCRIPTED JW question? Did Peter immediately disfellowshiped and shunned them like JW organization does if one starts asking a question that they don't like? Or did the Apostles and Elders of Peter's days immediately ask that their fellow Church family members not talk to them again?


Acts 15:4-5 NKJV — And when they had come to Jerusalem, they were received by the church and the apostles and the elders; and they reported all things that God had done with them. But some of the sect of the Pharisees who believed rose up, saying, “It is necessary to circumcise them, and to command them to keep the law of Moses.”

Acts 15:5 ESV — But some believers who belonged to the party of the Pharisees rose up and said, “It is necessary to circumcise them and to order them to keep the law of Moses.”


Instead how did Peter and the elders respond to them? To prove that they were really followers of Jesus. Did Peter and the rest immediately made a demarcation between them and disallow the move of the Holy Spirit and suddenly claim that they were now in place of the Holy Spirit that bears witness to Jesus, the Only Perfect One that all true followers of Jesus is to look up to and not to 8-Charlatans at New York who claim to be mouthpiece of Jehovah.

Acts 15:6-12 NKJV — Now the apostles and elders came together to consider this matter. And when there had been much dispute, Peter rose up and said to them: “Men and brethren, you know that a good while ago God chose among us, that by my mouth the Gentiles should hear the word of the gospel and believe. “So God, who knows the heart, acknowledged them by giving them the Holy Spirit, just as He did to us, “and made no distinction between us and them, purifying their hearts by faith. “Now therefore, why do you test God by putting a yoke on the neck of the disciples which neither our fathers nor we were able to bear? “But we believe that through the grace of the Lord Jesus Christ we shall be saved in the same manner as they.” Then all the multitude kept silent and listened to Barnabas and Paul declaring how many miracles and wonders God had worked through them among the Gentiles.

Considering the non-distinction that Apostle Peter spoke on here about the believers whether of the Pharisees Jews who believed and of the Gentiles believers. Where exactly did the Satanic JW organization copy the distinction that they give that only the organization is the seperatist "truth" and that every other Christian Church will be destroyed in Armageddon? That anyone who questions the lies of their false predictions and evil history is an "apostate" and should be shunned? Why does the JW organization as against what Apostle Peter said here by stifling the Holy Spirit in the hearts of all JW and taking the Holy Spirit's place, holding JWs captive as the only source of knowledge for all JWs must come from the GB, making a distinction and placing yokes on JW that even Russell, Rutherford, etcetera could not bear with their various doctrinal change and teaching/new light adjustments that now see old JWs who previously held on to those revised teachings and who died in them before they were reversed as dammed candidates of Hell?


You still have not shown me in the Bible where Church in these Greek Scriptures were Called Jehovah Witnesses? Same Jehovah not rendered in the Greek Scriptures plus you dodged my previous question of if you accept Geneva Bible 1599 rendition of John 1:1-2;14 and why the Poison New World Translation Bible renders this different since you so love the Geneva Bible and cherry picked Daniel from it.

Rutherfo thinks divisive sects were tolerated by JEHOVAH'S Servants of Paul's day,
@Matthew 5:20, Jesus Christ says Rutherfo receive SENSE !

JWs have Questions from Readers ,
ask whatever you want to receive more understanding about.. Millions have done so & received better clarification

Rutherfo:
Where exactly did the Satanic JW organization copy the distinction that they give that only the organization is the seperatist "truth" and that every other Christian Church will be destroyed in Armageddon?

John 3:16, 36 & John 20:30,31, John 17:3-7, According to Jesus Christ, who will not receive everlasting life?
According to Jesus Christ, Did Jehovah's Servants believe in 3 Triune deities?

JEHOVAH'S witnesses in the Christian Greek scriptures- Acts 15:14,17 (compare 2 Chronicles chapter 7:14 & Isaiah 43:10-12.
The people chosen to bear Jehovah's name.).
Did the Greeks call letter "J" in the name you call Jesus?
Bros, double standard tie gele for your head.

1 Corinthians 5:9-13 "Do NOT associate with anyone unrepentant... Remove,EXPEL them that refuse repentance