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seunsiju:
Prophet TB Joshua's Daughter Gave Birth to a bouncing baby boy yesterday June 12th on her dad birthday ...
The man Of God is back alive.....Glory be to God

olayiwola4u:
Many religions do not talk about this part of the Bible because it seems absurd to them. They can’t fathom why a merciful God will prepare an everlasting fire for an everlasting punishment. Human beings can’t just comprehend this decision of God. He is not a man that lies. Whatever it’s written in his word will surely come to pass.


Almost all the Bible authors made mention of the existence of hell fire. You may erase the fact that such a place exist from your mind. That doesn’t change the reality of hell fire. Truth be told, hell fire is real. Jesus made it clear in Matthew 25:41 kjv that the place is real.

“Then He will also say to those on the left hand, ‘Depart from Me, you cursed, into the everlasting fire prepared for the devil and his angels”

According to the word of Jesus in aforementioned verse, the place was not prepared for human beings. It was made for the devil and its angels — Demons.

However, the devil is going to take some people with him. The people, who will go with him, are the perpetual sinners. They are the people who

refused to change their sinful ways and turn over to God.

God doesn’t want anyone to perish in the fire. He wants everybody to be saved, but some people prefer to spend eternity with the devil than spend it with their creator.

He has given everyone a freedom of choice. You are to choose where you want. It is left to you to choose either heaven or hell. God can never choose for you. In the garden of Eden, he gave Adam and Eve the freedom of choice. Unfortunately, they chose the wrong path due to their disobedience.

There is still time for you to choose between heaven and hell.

I will advise you to choose wisely. Actions speak louder than voice. Your actions will reveal your

choice better than what you confesses or professes.

See you in heaven.

Hell Fire will never be your portion in Jesus name.

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Image123:
As usual, you sidestepped the many points and corrections and move elsewhere as the Hypocrite that you are. Again, you forgot to answer the very simple question i asked about if you will collect money for Awake. You have to be quite gullible to be so hoodwinked at the bold.

hupernikao:
You aren't reading what I wrote well Sir.

Jesus, God became a man and will remain a man for your sake. God's authority was not for God, it's for man. David showed you that Ps 8, Genesis told you that Gen 1.

God's dominion is for man. Christ (man) is the model son (man) that entered into that dominion through his obedience (God don't obey God, the man Jesus did). This is so that men can know that, man can be at peace with God and dwell in same place with God.

Jesus, is called your brother because he is the man Jesus. God is not your brother, he is your God. Jesus, the son (man) is our brother. That is God who became man for you.

He died as man, rose as man, sit today in heavenly as man. This is why you can sit in him. God don't sit, man sit in the place of authority. He became God's servant for you. You have to understand Bible language used for Jesus even till now. It's man's authority.

So, take your Bible and read all prophecies of old in this light so that you won't start seeing Jesus man in heaven before his birth in earth.

This is foundation of Bible theology.

hupernikao:
You can help us point to where Jesus is mentioned there

Image123:
Joh 14:5  Thomas saith unto him, Lord, we know not whither thou goest; and how can we know the way? 
Joh 14:6  Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.

Jesus was evidently talking to His disciples, or more directly Thomas in this instance. Yet you clearly lie that He was saying this to religious leaders. Well, you'd rather believe your sad hall publications than common sense or the clear Word of God. When you repent from hypocrisy and become noble like the people of Berea, you would know indeed whether your lies are so.
The religious leaders had issueS with Jesus, not just an issue. They had issues with His healings, with His doctrine, with His actions on the Sabbath, with with calling Himself the Son of God, with Him forgiving sins, virtually with everything. Try to read the Bible and dump these junk that you sell. You are starting to embarrass literacy.

You forgot to answer the very simple question i asked about if you will collect monwy for Awake. We all know the chorus answer, which is YES. But your hypocrisy and pride will not allow you. Lol @ we are not the only good people, we are the only good group. What shameful dance are you doing? Is that not the exact thing i accused you of? Here you come mentioning your secret mentor TB that i did not even mention or think of. i asked you earlier in another thread but you did not answer. Will you also be his disciple? Remember, you are looking for power. Your organisation told you to wait till paradise or something, but you don't want all that. You are here online disgracing yourself up and down seeking for power from astral practice, now to TB your secret crush. Accept my condolences ehnn. Did he sponsor your schooling?

hupernikao:
You are the one moving back and forth. Why jumping from Michael is the ONLY archangel to Michael is Jesus.
This is what you wrote.



I have shown you scriptures that you are wrong on boht end but my last post is to correct you on think Michael is the only arch angel. I pointed you to Daniel

Daniel 10:13
But the prince of the kingdom of Persia withstood me one and twenty days: but, lo, Michael, one of the chief princes, came to help me; and I remained there with the kings of Persia.

You left that one and start parading another error.

Please read scriptures well. Please nah beg I beg you. Your Bible interpretation is very poor to be sincere. How can you interpret 1 Thess 4:16 like this

See how you arrived at Jesus is angel Michael, like a chess player. This is draft playing you are doing not Bible study.

Please reread it again.
And when you are ready for sincere study, I will be here.

Genesis 4:19 Hebrew 259 lexicon,means "the first", the senior.
@ Daniel 10:13,("one of the chief princes) ,as it applies to Daniel 10:13, means "the head of angels".
Geneva Bible since 1599 confirmed that Hebrew 259 means " the Head of angels", that is Jesus Christ..
Matthew 25:31 & 2 Thess1:7-9, 1Thess 4:16, Revelation 12:7-9, according to your Bible, Bros,who is the head of angels?

hupernikao:
haddeylium
MaxInDHouse
DappaD
Janosky

I want to believe you are of the same belief system and hold the same Bible theology. The reason I will address you together.

The confusion you are having here is simple.

Firstly, you are not reading Bible text the way the author wrote it. You already have a mindset of what the scriptures is saying then now looking for scriptures to justify your stand. That is a wrong way of Bible study


2. You don't interpret scriptures by picking a verse out of its context without using it the way its context used it. Verse only have meaning within its narrative. You don't lift verse to support another verse by neglecting the meaning of same verse in the context where you lifted it from.

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Now, let me emphasis what I have been saying since on this thread for you. I will put it in simple grammar to understand.

1. A fundamental fact in the Bible is that Jesus is a name of a man. A man born into this word. At least everyone reading the Bible will agree with this. It is not a name of an angel or name of God. It's human name.

That means, I must not loose focus of this when I see the name and must used it rightly.

Jesus is the name of the son of God (man).


2. Jesus wasn't mentioned in OT as a name nor did he appeared there as a person. He couldn't if we all read the Bible the right was, as Jesus is a man and not born by then.


3. The OT emphasized the oneness of God all through the OT, yet in God's plan revealed by his prophets in OT, it was evident that God's plan for man is that a man will be born in future as son of God (man) to save man. Thus he isn't an angel or any other being existing somewhere before. It was God himself who will be reveal as the son (man) to humanity.


4. The culture, language, history and theology of the Jews never expressed or explained God beyond the one true God.

... The lord our God is one...

But observe the OT Bible language well, the expression you will see of God are.

God
Spirit of God
God's Spirit
My Spirit
Lord God

All these are the same person expressed in different usage. The Spirit of God is God. This is evident in all the scriptures.

Hence what some refer to as God the Spirit, a personality well define in the scriptures as God.

But you won't see Jesus in any expression in OT but in form of a son to come revealed in OT prophecies.

Note this
All texts to be showing Jesus as God the Son or Jesus as angel in OT will fail critical test of the scriptures. Thus I advise such fellow should remove his self imagination glasses and read scriptures as inspired by God not by self.


5. In NT

[b]God came to man, as man named Jesus. A model son. A man must have a father, hence, Jesus the son of God. [/b]Hence the reason you have the father/son relationship. It's because of humanity.

Note, OT already showed us that God is the one to come, to save man, to die for man. But God can't die, hence its a prophecy of a man, a son of God, the very God as the very man.

So, God became man, Jesus, hence the expression, God the son. This sonship is a full expression of God's love to man to save man. God became a son, carried the body of suffering as Christ for man's sake. Note, in sonship, God lay aside all glory, hence, the reasons you see Christ as full expression of man in attribute, yet the very God who gave up his privilege for man's sake.


6. That son, the man Jesus will continue to exist as the model son, at resurrection, he rose as man, ascended as man and sit at God's authority promised to man even before the foundation of the world.

That is why he is your lord today, you can have what he has because he did all he did as man for man. This is the reason we believe in the resurrection of our body. And reason we know man can and will live forever because we have a savior, a man, that rose and live not to die again eternally.


This is the story of the Bible.


Note
I didn't use a text of the scriptures because I wanted to present it in a story you can understand. Your response will determine if we can now look at the details of the scriptures.

livingchrist:
Yahweh is a trinue God.

Genesis 1:26-27 And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth.
So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them.

It was Jehovah alone that created all things no other God was with him.


Isaiah 44:24
Thus saith the LORD, thy redeemer, and he that formed thee from the womb, I am the LORD that maketh all things; that stretcheth forth the heavens alone; that spreadeth abroad the earth by myself;

John 1:3
All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made.

Jehovah is a trinity, Jesus as well as the holy spirit os Jehovah but they are different persons.

Bros, how many persons is "Him"?
.

Person wey claim say he's normal, he tells himself "Him" means 3.
Pls don't confuse your kids with that GIBBERISH.

hupernikao:
I am sure you aren't reading my texts.

You can only wake up a sleeping man, you can't wake up a man pretending to sleep. This is your case.

Trying to wake you up to this knowledge won't be productive until you are ready.

Like I have told you before, you aren't ready to read and comprehend this. When you are ready for discussion, I will know, then teach you to understand the concept under discussion.

Bros, you wrote GIBBERISH.


5 centuries ago, Geneva Bible Translators, your Trinity mentors, said Jesus Christ is archangel Michael and an angel of Jehovah @ Daniel 10:13. 12:1 & Joshua 5:14
This fact has been confirmed by KNOWMORE56, your fellow Trinitarian.


Bros, the same 'oly ghost is teaching you & your fellow Trinitarians, meet them for further expositions or continue typing GIBBERISH

hupernikao:
I will stay on the topic of your misinterpretation of Jesus as angel first. Since you are yet to still understand what the name or the person Jesus means. Nor understand the humanity of Christ. Going into his resurrection will only bring more confusion to your reading.

All texts you quoted up there has nothing to do with what the authors implied. They are your imaginations. But it's allowed, it's a stage in Bible learning. To imagine, to lift scriptures and see self revelation in the name of spirit inspired revelation.

I am sure soon you will be able to fully read the scriptures and accept it the way the authors were inspired and interpret it as such.

Pending that time, get this right in your mind and it will help your explanation of who the man Jesus is.

1. Jesus is a man born of a woman, the savior of the world.

2. Jesus wasn't the name of God, it's a name given by God to a MAN at birth, who will at last bear the authority of God.

3. When you Read OT text, stop referencing Jesus as preexisting in any form. No text for that. I know you have text that can confuse your reading. But check it well, they are mostly prophecy of the future about a MAN to be born, Jesus. Any interpretation outside this is self imagination.

4. Stop quoting verses without reading its full chapter to understand what the verse is truly saying. Read the chapter first to give meaning to a verse, then use your knowledge of other places in the scripture to interpret the verse. Don't give an independent meaning to a verse.

A verse must retain its meaning when read with its surrounding text. That is, the meaning of a verse, no matter anywhere you want to apply it, must be derived from the context of the chapter you are lifting it from.

Read the above again.



This is how your errors are seen in all verses you are quoting.
If we insert those verses back to their surrounding context and chapter and read it together in their chapter for a meaning, we won't arrive at the meaning you have been giving them when read independent from their surrounding text.
Hence not biblical.

This simple rule above is sacrosanct in Bible interpretation and save us from imagined inspiration driven by desire of self revelation.

MaxInDHouse:
Each of them wants to preach and teach but where are their fellow believers?

When Jesus started he proved all the religious groups in Israel wrong then he PRESENT his own group as those belonging to the same spiritual family with him. Matthew 12:46-49

hupernikao will continue to argue from now till tomorrow but ask him to PRESENT his church where members share the same line of thought with him. NO WAY!

Yet he's been arguing with his so called Christian brethren from thread to thread on Nairaland, one could wonder "if this is how pure worship should be then how are they worshiping in spirit and truth?"

MaxInDHouse:
©Jesus stood for the salvation of God's people and that's exactly what Michael also reportedly did! Isaiah 11:10 compare to Daniel 12:1

©Out of those in the spirit realms only Jesus is said to be a special son of God and Michael is said to be the Archangel while all other angels are also God's sons! John 3:16 compare to Jude 9

©Out of all those living in the spirit realms only Jesus is said to have his angels just as only Michael is said to have his angels! Matthew 13:41, 25:31 compare to Revelations 12:7

©Jesus is referred to as the Great Prince who will bring about global peace just as Michael is also called the great Prince! Isaiah 9:6 compare to Daniel 12:1

© Jesus will use the voice of the Archangel not any other voice for that matter {1Thessalonians 4:16} and somehow Michael happens to be the Archangel!

© Michael and Gabriel are the only two angels whose names were mentioned in the Bible and somehow Michael was nowhere to be found when God has transformed His only begotten son into an embryo in the womb of Mary, so that Gabriel began featuring instead of Michael!

Please whoever wants to dispute that the Bible isn't talking about the same person should tell me why so much coincidences!

enilove:
How can a grown up man remain a babe ? Is that not an abomination ?

As for me , I am no longer a baby to my mother I am her son . Even in Christ Jesus , I am no longer a baby but a son .
But you are the one calling yourself a babe .

When Adam was created , was he created as a baby or as an adult ?

Jesus was never created as a baby by God but as an Almighty God like his Father in heaven.

Since you are a baby Christian I will tell you the Position Jesus holds and will hold for ever; THE POSITION IS THE RIGHT HAND OF GOD HIS FATHER surrounded by Twenty Four Elders and the Spirits of God and Angels bowing to him and his Father with songs :


Revelation 3:21-22 KJV
To him that overcometh will I grant to sit with me in my throne, even as I also overcame, and am set down with my Father in his throne.
[22] He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches.

Enilove says 2 Almighty Gods ,( Jesus Christ & his Father) exists.

Revelation 3:21-22, according to Enilove,
One of the Almighty God is calling the other Almighty God "my Father"
(The same FALSE claim of that so-called "Pastor/Teacher"


Trinity shege !!!!

hupernikao:
Bro, you arent addressing issues you raised. You are only contradicting yourself the more.

There is a quote of yours i addressed and that should be the focus. I have also tried as much to keep you on focus as you seems to not find a stand in what you are saying and mixing things up.

This is the focus of our discussion.
The person you responded was asking if Jesus was an angel.

Obviously your response showed that you know he is referring to angelic being, yet you subtly start talking about messenger, malak, angelo usage. The fact that you know you hold a view that Jesus was an angelic being yet perambulating on discussing human messenger as angels is not honest. This is what i have cleared you on but you are still roaming texts around the issue.

To recap

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Firstly, the issue of everyone used of God as angels (angels of God, angelic being) is false. you arent making a distinction in this. Its either you are deliberately ignoring it or you arent honest with it. I have asked you if you are angelic being. Or arent you use of God. Kindly stop threading this line, you have no point here.

Secondly, i address your wrong interpretation of Mal 3, Isa 42,
You arent reading the scriptures as supposed. This is what i expect you to do and not be arguing on what is clear and written. Expect you dont have an open mind and only want to argue. The scriptures are clear and that is what you should use to discuss.

Lastly, trying to fuse Jesus as angelic being into your subtle narrative is not only unbiblical, it is dishonest. No scripture and i say again, no single scriptures in the whole of the Bible referred to Jesus as angelic being. This is the focus of the discussion. Trying to subtling refer to angels as messenger and then call Jesus angel is subtle denial of the scriptures.

Please give your time to read Mal 3 and Isa 42 those are your base text for the misinterpretation.
And read them properly.

I boldly tell you that Jesus was not an angel, this is the dispute and your subtle misinterpretation calling him one.

haddeylium:
Many of these have been answered if you check our previous conversations on this same thread.
I advise the other guy to do some basic research, and I hope you'll do that too.
it will surprise you that humans are refered to as Angel too(Re 2:1, 8, 12, 18)
The Word (Angel) is just a title that means messenger .
Spirit Sons of God that are loyal to God's sovereign are delivering his messages are called his (Malak, Aggelos, Angel) Messengers
Even, Jesus have his own Messengers(Malak, Angel)too.




Do you mean Jesus is not a messenger/servant?

iamkheedah:
A young man allegedly beats up his 3 year old son in Yenizue-Epie, Bayelsa State , leaving the boy severely injured and unconscious.

According to eyewitness, the man has the habit of beating up his wife, who left him few weeks ago with their 3 year old son (name withheld), the father went in search of them and took the boy back home after many days of looking for them.

After taking the boy back home with him, he locked the boy inside and beat him up mercilessly, neighbours were scared of him and couldn't help the poor boy as he would fight you if you dared question his actions.

He ran out of luck today when his neighbours couldn't bare it anymore, they had to seek the help of some young men in the community, when the young men got to the house, he had locked the door and refused to open it for them.

The young men broke into the house and found the boy unconscious in a carton where the father had hid him thinking he had died.

They quickly brought the boy out and found him still alive, but with various degrees of injuries, the father had cut his ear with a scissors and also broken his leg.

They called the police and waited for the police to get their before taking the boy to the hospital, and also added the culprit over for the police.

At the time of this report the boy is responding to treatment.

enilove:
What is hard for trinitarians to digest , that God the Father is different from God the Son or what ?

A child when not yet matured is called a child .
Jesus is a Son of God .

3) You said any spirit who obeys the commands of God is an angel .
Are the Twenty Four Elders in heaven who are obeying and worshiping God in heaven Angels ?
You Jehovah witnesses love assumptions too much.

4) Where did Jesus call himself and Angel in John 7:16 ? Jesus said his Father sent him. Does a father has authority to send his son a message or not ?
All you are doing is to assume what is not and to discard what is written in the Bible.
Despite reading in Hebrew 1: 13 that Jesus is not an Angel , you are still assuming what is not .

Hebrews 1:13 KJV
But to which of the angels said he at any time, Sit on my right hand, until I make thine enemies thy footstool?

Point 2
Revelation 1:5-6, in your Bible says Jesus is what in heaven?
@ Revelation 3:5, 2:27, 3:12,21, in heaven Jesus says he is what?
In the spiritual realm, Jesus Christ says he is what?
Ephesians 4:6, in heaven what is the relationship between the Father of all & Jesus Christ?

Child or son, he no get his Father?

enilove:
Like I said before , you are the one that will remain a baby to your parents and not me.

How was Adam created ?
He was created from dust . Was Jesus created from dust like Adam ?
Adam was created in the image of God the Father and God the Son . Does that mean Adam was created the way the Father is with all the Glory of God ?
Can Adam give life to nonliving things like Jesus?
Among the creations of God , what did Adam create and which one amongst them was not created by Jesus Christ ?

The fact that Jesus Christ came in the form of man does not mean he is equal to man . And if not equal to man but equal to God , then he is God and not man nor Angel.

Philippians 2:6-11 KJV
Who, being in the form of God, thought it not robbery to be equal with God: [7] But made himself of no reputation, and took upon him the form of a servant, and was made in the likeness of men: [8] And being found in fashion as a man, he humbled himself, and became obedient unto death, even the death of the cross. [9] Wherefore God also hath highly exalted him, and given him a name which is above every name: [10] That at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, of things in heaven, and things in earth, and things under the earth; [11] And that every tongue should confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father.

I am sure you don't know what you are saying.

Jesus was created before the world & before Adam.
John 1:1, 1599 Geneva Bible
"That Word begotten before all worlds"
"The first born of every creature" ,Col 1:15.
(In other words, God beget the Word before creation of heaven and earth).

[b]Satan is a morning star
Jesus is a morning star.
Job 38:1-7 all the morning Stars applauded Yahweh's Creative works.
Do the maths, use your brain.

enilove:
5) How did Angel Michael become Jesus Christ ?
That is what your organization wants you to believe and that is heresy ;

2 Peter 2:1 KJV
But there were false prophets also among the people, even as there shall be false teachers among you, who privily shall bring in damnable heresies, even denying the Lord that bought them, and bring upon themselves swift destruction.

Biblical evidences that Jesus is not Angel Michael are :

1) Jude 1:9 KJV
Yet Michael the archangel, when contending with the devil he disputed about the body of Moses, durst not bring against him a railing accusation, but said, The Lord rebuke thee.
ANGEL MICHAEL COULD NOT REBUKE SATAN HIMSELF BUT BY THE LORD.

Luke 4:8 KJV
And Jesus answered and said unto him, Get thee behind me, Satan: for it is written, Thou shalt worship the Lord thy God, and him only shalt thou serve.

BUT JESUS IN THE FLESH , IN HUMAN FORM , IN A LOWER STATE THAN THE ANGELS COULD REBUKE SATAN DIRECTLY AND NOT '' IN THE NAME OF THE LORD''.

That shows that Angel Michael rebuked Satan the Jesus name in Jude 1:9 above.

Dangerousboy:
you just shot your self in the leg with your own gun.

Footnotes
John 1:1 The Son of God is of one, and the selfsame eternity or everlastingness, and of one and the selfsame essence or nature, with the Father.

If the son of God is of the self same essence and nature, both everlasting and eternal with the father, according to your footnotes, then
JESUS IS GOD. EQUAL WITH THE FATHER.

And you talking about man not a spirit is so absorbed. I know it is your type that won't believe in the miraculous or supernatural. Are you a Jehovah witness?

My friend, God is three in one. You see you can't reason spiritual thing's with your mind. There are spiritually discerned. Your trying to reason it.

This is the evidence:

"John 1:1
1599 Geneva Bible
The holy gospel of Jesus Christ, according to John.
That Word begotten of God before all worlds."

The son can NEVER be of "selfsame eternity or everlastingness"
The son was begotten... Who beget The Father?

That Word begotten of God BEFORE ALL WORLDS" , that is, him Father beget (born that Word) before ALL WORLDS (before creation of heaven and earth).
My question for you:
Bros, which begotten spiritual being is eternal forever ?

Footnotes
John 1:1 This word, That, pointeth out unto us a peculiar and choice thing above all other, and putteth a difference between this Word, which is the Son of God, and the Laws of God, which otherwise also are called the word of God"

In other words, the Word in John 1:1 is not a speech, the Word is a spiritual being begotten of God before all worlds-( before creation of heaven and earth).

Bros, na your Trinity mentors talk am in 1599.

To hide this truth, they published KJV in 1611, 12yrs later to DECEIVE English speaking people everywhere.

Dangerousboy:
OK, lemme give you an illustration.

Man is triune being. He is a spirit, has a soul and lives in a body. When you open your mouth and talk, both your spirit and your soul is involved.

God is made up of the father, Son and the Holy Spirit. Jesus is God. John 1:1-5. When Jesus speaks, he does not say my father says, or the Holy Spirit says, why because he is God.
A member of the God head. Omnipotent Omniscient, Omnipresent.

Jesus being a member of the God head, had to be made flesh. And as flesh, he had limitations. He had to depend on the Holy Spirit because he was not functioning as God but as man, so he had to pray to the father. Why because as a man, he needed the father to fulfill his mission on earth. Luke 4:1& 14 JESUS IS GOD. Phil 2:5-11.

And to him be all the glory,

dat9jaguy:
However, It does not mean that Jesus is the same person as the father, but it does mean that he has the exact character of the father.

Does this imply that Jesus is same diety as the father?
Implied! Yes, for Jesus to be the exact representation of the father he must be same deity as the father or put it in another way, he and the father are same God but two distinct person


This is a Pictorial representation of your argument

livingchrist:
It is not contradictory

Diety means essence or put it in simply the things that made God who he is.

Person means the ability to be self conscious.

Jesus is same as God but not the father meaning God is a trinity.

livingchrist:
Yes Jesus is the Son of God,
The son of God is God just as the son of man is man.

Janosky:
At the bolded, Yes!
Jesus "the word" is A god to all creatures.
Jesus "the word" is A god /divine @ John 1:1.
Enilove, you haveare confirmed that the Sahidic Coptic Bible, Emphatic Diaglott & NWT have a very accurate rendition of John 1:1.
@ John 1:1, (compare John 14:1 & John 20:17), Jesus is NOT the God his Father.
@ Colossians 1:15," Jesus is the first born of every creature"
Enilove, is the first born of every child still a child?
Romans 11:35-36 & Ephesians 4:6 Yahweh the Father of all created Jesus Christ.
Jesus came through the Father before creation of the universe.
Job 38:1-7 is hard for Trinitarians to digest.



Often in the scriptures, Yahweh gives command.
Any spirit being who obeys Yahweh's command is an angel.
Enilove, John 7:16, 3:16 John 12:49-50, Jesus Christ says he's an angel , obeying Yahweh's command to teach & redeem.

Point of correction:
@ Psalm 110:1, the Hebrew rendition reads:
Jehovah said to my Lord:
"Sit at my right hand"
Can you see that Jesus Christ (the lord of David @ Psalm 110:1, Ephesians 1:3) has his God & Father in heaven & earth?

Here comes the bombshell:
KJV Translators knew that Jesus Christ is archangel Michael since 1599.
The KJV Translators used the Geneva Bible to translate the KJV in 1611.
The same Textus Receptus manuscript.
Daniel 10:13 Geneva Bible ©1599.

Daniel 10:13
1599 Geneva Bible
"13 But the [a]prince of the kingdom of Persia withstood me one and twenty days: but lo, [b]Michael one of the chief princes, came to help me, and I remained there by the Kings of Persia.

Footnotes

Daniel 10:13 Though God could by one Angel destroy all the world, yet to assure his children of his love, he sendeth forth double power, even Michael, that is, Christ Jesus the head of Angels."

Enilove, no dey DECEIVE yourself.
JWs are very correct: Jesus Christ is archangel Michael.

More proof, Jesus Christ is archangel Michael


Daniel 12:1
1599 Geneva Bible
12 1 Of the deliverance of the Church by Christ.

1 And at that [a]time shall Michael stand up, the great prince, which standeth for the children of thy people, and there shall be a time of trouble, such as never was since there began to be a nation unto that same time: and at that time thy people shall be delivered, everyone that shall be found written in the book.


Footnotes
Daniel 12:1 The Angel here noteth two things: first that the Church shall be in great affliction and trouble at Christ’s coming, and next that God will send his Angel to deliver it, whom here he calleth Michael, meaning Christ, which is published by the preaching of the Gospel."

Dangerousboy:
JESUS; THE EXPRESS IMAGE OF GOD

Heb.1.3 - Who being the brightness of his glory, and the express image of his person...sat down on the right hand of the Majesty on high;

One day Philip said to Jesus, you have been talking about the father so much, let us see him. Jesus was surprised at his question and told him; if you have seen me, you have seen the father.John 14:9.
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Jesus is God made flesh 1Tim 3:16. Isn't it amazing that God walked the face of the earth as a man some time ago? Yes he did. No wonder he became our high priest, interceding for us.

Jesus talks like the father, thinks like the father, and acts like the father.

He expressed the will of the father, he healed the sick, raised the dead, cleansed the lepers, delivered the oppressed, feed the hungry, because thats what Father God will do. Acts 10:38

Today, Jesus is still expressing the will of the father, he has never change. So believe to see him express God's goodness in your life. Heb13:8.