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MRAKPORS:
If , so why?
And wetin be the difference with the other Bible?

peggywebbs:
Yes what they left out is that, they got their translation from an already translated version of the bible and did everything to remove verses they don't agree with.

Tcwork:
Don't you see, we all are trying to serve God. We are all trying to find peace and happiness.
This isn't a fight between light and darkness but between 2 people both trying to find the light.
The most knowledgeable among us, only knows but a tiny bit of the mysteries of God.
True we would discuss doctrines and differences but we can't forget that we are all on the same side. The side of truth.
No one has a monopoly of truths and the day we think we know enough is the day we stop learning.
I encourage discussion's and questions and even disagreement but we must remember that the spirit of contention is of the devil.
The spirit of God is of peace and love and gentleness.

MaxInDHouse:
Don't mind haddeylium jare, he changed what's written in the New King James Version to favor the JWs!

livingchrist:
If Jesus possess God's divine nature then he is God, I mean truly God then. And No angels do not possess God's divine nature

OfficialAPCNig:
Maybe you skipped the part of the John 1 that says "and the word was made flesh". Jesus shed everything that made him a God before coming to earth. A human cannot give birth to a god.

MaxInDHouse:
Janosky my brother good evening!

budaatum:
Well, not exactly going to hell except perhaps in the minds of those Stockholm drones who condemn Eve for opening eyes to bondage. Just my reading, or to be accurate, my book buying, rather still to be exact, my book ordering addiction is back.

I used to walk down streets with bookshops so I could go in knowing I could not walk out without buying a book. Then I began walking down streets with like 10 bookshops and go in every one and buy books. But now I'm on lockdown I don't even need to leave my home to find a bookshop and I think I seriously need help!

I will list the books as they arrive. You will understand better when you see what I ordered.

MaxInDHouse:
Definitely it's cool to be put to shame Sir!

achorladey:
To the bold............ I believe you know what you are typing up there. That same thing they are expected to say boldly is?

Answer according to MaxInDHouse...Jesus said he's the one and only way to his God and father

and you went ahead to state............

Saying the above qualifies such group or organization as Jesus' true group

Let me see if you understand what you have just typed and posted.

So as an example, is Redeemed Christian church of God (RCCG) JESUS' TRUE GROUP?

MuttleyLaff:
You quite know you are fooling yourself saying the Pastorpreneurs are my fellow 3 triune spirits devotees, dont you, hmm?

MaxInDHouse:
What can you do if i choose not to oblige?

Guy go and please yourself!

Tcwork:
I am not JW but from this thead it's so clear that Jehovah's Witnesses handled themselves very well. They seem to be much better in the scrpitures than all those who came against them.
I am sure the good lady who began this has realized her mistakes. These guys are a step above.
All that being said, it is not a competition but a wake up call to all Christians to study the scriptures and don't start what you cannot finish.
A lot of uncharitable words where exchaged. It only goes to show that we Christians are more focused in furthering our church doctrines than living the life of Christ.
Each was more interested in winning the debate, forgetting that, it doesn't really matter who debates better.

LordReed:
Hiding in his room, crying that Trump didn't win. LMFAO!

livingchrist:
Because you are in darkness you think darkness is better than light, you are decieved with the false peace and unity. Let me shock you Jehovah witnesses do not have peace at all, their unity is only outward, there are backbiting, pretense, every manner of evil in their midst, do you think the parents of molested children by those your organisation protected would be happy, what about those that were killed by your demonic no blood transfusion? Let me tell you if parenta of those people knew the truth they would tear down watch tower luciferian society.

Peace and unity is the song of the antichrist and because your organisation is routed in occultism and spiritism, it is rooted in the antichrist that is why your message is based on peace and unity, Jesus message was never based on peace and unity neither does his disciples only the antichrist, the devil so much seek for peace and unity so that he can completely rule and control men.

MuttleyLaff:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lDUlgtncoSA 2020

SMSguru:
Yes, my spiritual father has just spoken during the Jubilee/Passover Night held at Living Faith Church, Canaanland, Ota, Africa.

He made it clear during his message to church faithfuls that God has a divine agenda for this great nation.

He prophesied without mincing words that Nigeria will be named among the World Powers by the year 2020.

I can't wait to see it happen because I'm so sure that it will happen. I'm also so sure that I will be alive, safer, sound and stronger by then.

Papa has spoken! And God has never allowed any of his words to fall to the ground because the scriptures can never be broken.

DeepSight:
I do not consider the Bible to be a source or authority for innerant truth, and even if I did, there are way too many contrary verses within the same bible on the subject.

I have previously discussed this extensively with the soundest Christian Trinitarian ever to grace this forum here -
https://www.nairaland.com/1341464/anony-deep-sight-verse-verse

- - - If you take a look, at the minimum, you will agree there are many verses for and against.

MuttleyLaff:
https://i.pinimg.com/originals/e9/6b/aa/e96baa6d14bd7a59d26606e5b696bd50.gif
Thank you for the laffs

... but no angels ever said or dare say what Jesus said at John 8:58 because even if they all existed before Adam talkless Abraham, they won't be making any point with saying it.

@MaxInDHouse
1/ If Yahshua Ha Mashiah aka Jesus Christ, God Incarnate, our Lord and Saviour of the whole wide world, were to right now, repeat John 8:58, would you, join in picking up stones to throw at Him too?
2/ What to your honest, sincere and truthful knowledge and/or awareness was the stated reason given by the people for picking up stones to throw at Yahshua Ha Mashiah aka Jesus Christ, God Incarnate, our Lord and Saviour of the whole wide world, lmso?

MuttleyLaff:
1/ Are you saying it is hard, difficult, impossible and beyond God to send Himself on an errand as a Messenger to earth?
2/ Are you saying it is hard, difficult, impossible and beyond God to project out from Himself to then after concurrently exist in two places?

Kobojunkiee:
You have to toss that spiritual bullsheet language in the trash where it belongs in order to make sense of this here.

In the passage below, God makes clear His intentions for dealing out additional punishments after the fall of man.


Separation from God that happened to Adam and Eve as a result of their unbelief, was not a spiritual separation but a physical one that took place when God Himself barred them from coming back into the garden of Eden. How that implies "spiritual death", you would need to explain with references.

Man was driven out of the garden of Eden for a reason.... as given us above.
So what you are saying is that Adam did not walk with God by faith while he was with God in the garden of Eden, but somehow Abel and Seth figured out, all on their own, how to walk with God by faith out in the world?

Let's assume for a second that your definition of "spiritual death" is to hold, then how come God is recorded to have spoken to Abel and Cain while they were out in the world, this after the fall of man? Was God not aware of the separation that needed to exist between God and man, which you claim a result of the fall?


God was clear on His reason for imposing suffering on man after the fall - there was no mention of "spiritual" disconnection between God and man at that point - God's judgment/message seemed to have been received on the other end by man.

On Sin controlling humans, Well, I mention again Abel and Seth, who obviously seemed to be first-generation exceptions to your story there. Sin definitely took hold but the examples of such men as Abel, Seth, Enoch, Noah, showed that not all offsprings of Adam were controlled by sin in the end, does it not? They were slaves to sin by birth but not all of them controlled by sin.
In terms of Judgement, what happened in Genesis 3 was the Judgement of God, was it not? God judged Adam and all those who would choose sin after Him at that point. And His judgement stands forever, does it not? The same condemnation of sin, which is death is what lives on even to this day, for all those who are born of Adam that refuse to believe in God -- the wages of sin is death.

As for your claim of eternal damnation, well, that is refuted in Genesis 3 where you are told that Adam did not eat of the tree of eternal life. Since Adam did not indeed have eternal life(eternity), there was no way for him to spend eternity in damnation. Instead, Adam perished in that day(He died less than 1000 years later) as God decreed that He would in Genesis 2 vs 17 and Genesis 3 vs 19 - God did not lie.

The bolded is Scriptural truth.
Christendom ignorantly believe that Adam will suffer in hellfire

MuttleyLaff:
Bros, paste in here an image or picture of the star of David on the Israeli flag please nah and let's peer review it together.
I am 10001% sure you didnt closely follow the thread of the post before jumping in feet first to comment about the star

MaxInDHouse:
SEE
ISU ATA YÁNAN YÀNAN.....
YAM PEPPER SCATTER SCATTER!
all in the name of the same Lord! Luke 11:23



May JEHOVAH'S holy name be sanctified forever amongst JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES in Jesus name ~ Amen! Matthew 6:9

Yes my Brother,Max !

MuttleyLaff:
www.nairaland.com/attachments/12468982_fc1cb4e7d018740252f6699c101969dd_jpeg0e05290ad3a46e0c26dc36b60b38941a
Is it a hidden code or is it a coincidence that the 6-pointed star of David on the Israeli flag is the sign of the Anti-Christ, hmm?

MaxInDHouse:
You're just going round in circus!

Both of them were prophets and Gods but they're not recipient of any form of worship period!

shadeyinka:
I wish you can use scriptures to justify the assertion above!

Col 1:15-17:
"Who is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of every creature: For by him were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether they be thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or powers: all things were created by him, and for him: And he is before all things, and by him all things consist."

Christ is the visible form of the invisible God who created all things;


Deceptions always has to do with twisting the Truth.

"Like" is NOT the same as "Is"

The scriptures never said that the "Word was Like God" did it? The Word WAS God is what the scriptures say in simple terms.

By the way: Is Moses also a god to you?

Is Jesus "a god"?

Yes. Jesus is a god.. John 10:34-36, one of the "gods in heaven", 1 Corinthians 8:5.

Christ is the visible form of the invisible God who created all things; Mr LIENUS .
Every creature exists in the image of the invisible God.
"The first born of every creature" is himself a product of creation.
Mr LIENUS no dey DECEIVE yourself .
Greek manuscript lexicon of Colossians 1:15 exposed your FRAUD

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Mr LIENUS
"The scriptures never said that the "Word was Like God" did it? The Word WAS God is what the scriptures say in simple terms".

Like God= Greek THEOITES divine /divinity /nature/attributes/quality. Colossians 1:19.
Colossians .2:9-10.
Bros, do you have Dictionary?
Pls ,no dey DECEIVE yourself
Who made His Son divine?.
Exodus 7:1, Acts 3:13, The same Yahweh who made Moses "like God", divine

shadeyinka:
The question was:

1. According to NWT, Jesus is a mighty god
John1:1
1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was a god.

2. According to your doctrinal position and understanding, Jesus is just a mighty god and not the True God!

Yet, a person may ask, ‘In what sense is Jesus a “Mighty God,”
and didn’t the apostle John say that Jesus is himself God?
https://wol.jw.org/en/wol/d/r1/lp-e/102005283


Here is what the Bible says:

Isa. 43:10, 11
Before me no god was formed,
nor will there be one after me.
11 I, even I, am the Lord,
and apart from me there is no savior.

Isaiah 44:6
“See now that I, I am He, And there is no god besides Me”

Deut. 32:39
‘I am the first and I am the last, And there is no God besides Me.”

How could Jesus be "another" God who is just "a mighty" god?

3. Even though, I know that you will avoid answering this question as usual of you,:
Is Jesus a true God or a false God?

shadeyinka:
1. According to NWT, Jesus is a mighty god
John1:1
1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was a god.

2. According to your doctrinal position and understanding, Jesus is just a mighty god and not the True God!

Yet, a person may ask, ‘In what sense is Jesus a “Mighty God,” and didn’t the apostle John say that Jesus is himself God?
https://wol.jw.org/en/wol/d/r1/lp-e/102005283

John NEVER said that... please don't lie.
John said : "the Logos was Theo's.."
Emphasis on "WAS" ( More on that later, pls be calm ).
According to Jesus himself , John 17:3 & John 20:17 ,Revelation 2:27 & Revelation 3:12, did Jesus Christ tell Shadeyinka he is the true God?

1 Corinthians 3:23, Please explain .