Christianity Etc › Re: Is It True That Jehovah Witness People Have Their Own Bible? by Janosky: 12:27am On Dec 31, 2020 |
freshboi88: Mumu. It is modelled after the anti Christ. One who is here to ridicule the Christ!.
That's why they tell all sort of lies and change scripture to ridicule Jesus.
Satanic sect Isaiah 65:17-25, 2 Peter 3:13. Revelation 21:1-5, "Behold! I am making all things new. Write, for these words are faithful and true"
LYING dullard say na him own "anti Christ" .  |
Christianity Etc › Re: Is Jesus Same Person As The Father? by Janosky: 12:22am On Dec 31, 2020 |
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Christianity Etc › Re: Is Jesus Same Person As The Father? by Janosky: 12:15am On Dec 31, 2020 |
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Christianity Etc › Re: Is Jesus Same Person As The Father? by Janosky: 12:09am On Dec 31, 2020 |
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Christianity Etc › Re: How The Bible Shoots Down Jehovah Witnesses False Doctrine by Janosky: 12:03am On Dec 31, 2020 |
johnw47: it is the revelation of Jesus Christ that Father God gave Him it is not the revelation of Father God: Rev 1:1 The Revelation of Jesus Christ, which God gave unto him, to shew unto his servants things which must shortly come to pass; and he sent and signified it by his angel unto his servant John:
john gave record of the testimonny of Jesus: Rev 1:2 Who bare record of the word of God, and of the testimony of Jesus Christ, and of all things that he saw.
Jesus testified that He is Alpha and Omega, that He is coming quickly: Rev 22:12 And, behold, I come quickly; and my reward is with me, to give every man according as his work shall be. Rev 22:13 I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end, the first and the last.
john affirmed that it was Jesus that testified those things, "I come quickly", "I am Alpha and Omega" etc.: Rev 22:20 He which testifieth these things saith, Surely I come quickly. Amen. Even so, come, Lord Jesus.
i see, it's Father God who said "I come quickly" but it's actually Jesus Christ who comes quickly, laugh Revelation 22:5-7,11-13, the angel is speaking for God , Yahweh the giver of this Revelation to Jesus, @ 1vs1. John 17:2, 1 Thess1:7-9,Revelation 2:27,28 that assignment of "coming" , to execute judgement and give rewards , Yahweh gave the assignment to Jesus Christ. Revelation 1:1 is not rocket science nau. If Trinity no dull your brain.  |
Christianity Etc › Re: Since Jesus 'received' Glory And Honour, Is He An 'inferior/subservient' God? by Janosky: 11:42pm On Dec 30, 2020 |
DappaD: One can now begin to ask himself, since they also elevated holy spirit to God level, why wasn't it mentioned anywhere in Hebrews 1?  Very good question for Trinity devotees. Great food for serious thought for Trinity devotees.JWs thank the OP for opening this thread but she jakpa like Usain Bolt for reasons we all know  |
Christianity Etc › Re: Since Jesus 'received' Glory And Honour, Is He An 'inferior/subservient' God? by Janosky: 11:27pm On Dec 30, 2020 |
shadeyinka: .
If Christ isn't the true God, then certainly he must be a false god. Exo 23:13: "And in all things that I have said to you be circumspect: and make no mention of the name of other gods, neither let it be heard out of your mouth."
And yet, you would call Moses a literal god and Jesus another god. It wouldn't even cross your darkens minds that Moses being a god unto Pharaoh is a figurative expression. No! It doesn't serve your other lies!
Anyways, you see why your first question where you insinuate me using double standards doesn't hold water.
I rest my case. Bros, misquote Exodus 23:13 to expose himself  Question for You: Exodus 23:13, did Yahweh say that gods exist?
LYING dullard says "gods" na 'figurative expression" Trinity scam dulls them brain  John 10:34-36 Jesus answered, “It is written in your own Law that God said, ‘You are gods.’ 35 We know that what the scripture says is true forever; and God called those people gods, the people to whom his message was given36 As for me, the Father chose me and sent me into the world. How, then, can you say that I blaspheme because I said that I am the Son of God?
Jesus Christ says continue DECEIVING yourself Trinity devotees how market? |
Christianity Etc › Re: Since Jesus 'received' Glory And Honour, Is He An 'inferior/subservient' God? by Janosky: 11:06pm On Dec 30, 2020 |
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Christianity Etc › Re: Since Jesus 'received' Glory And Honour, Is He An 'inferior/subservient' God? by Janosky: 11:02pm On Dec 30, 2020 |
shadeyinka: Anyone who claims an angel died as atonement for their sin despite the clear scripture
[b]Heb 1:13-14: "But to which of the angels said he at any time, Sit on my right hand, until I make your enemies your footstool? Are they not all ministering spirits, sent forth to minister for them who shall be heirs of salvation?"
is living in a world of self delusion and most certainly demonized. For there are doctrines of demons flying around. [/b] So, you see WHY those who turn blind eyes at the scriptures cannot be of the same family of the sons of God. It's not about denomination, it's about holding up the centrality of Christ. Easton's Bible Dictionary A word signifying, both in the Hebrew and Greek, a "messenger," and hence employed to denote any agent God sends forth to execute his purposes. It is used of an ordinary messenger (Job 1:14: 1 Samuel 11:3; Luke 7:24; 9:52), of prophets (Isaiah 42:19; Haggai 1:13), of priests (Malachi 2:7), and ministers of the New Testament (Revelation 1:20" Source: excerpt from Biblehub. Luke 7:24 compare John 7:16 and Matthew 20:28, John 3:16, Bros , is Jesus Christ an angel?
Continue DECEIVING yourself 
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Christianity Etc › Re: Since Jesus 'received' Glory And Honour, Is He An 'inferior/subservient' God? by Janosky: 10:53pm On Dec 30, 2020 |
DappaD: Hebrews 1:9 NET Bible “You love justice and hate evil. For this reason God, your God has anointed you with the oil of joy, elevating you above your companions.”
International Standard Version “You love justice and hate wickedness. That is why God, even your God, has anointed you rather than your companions with the oil of gladness.”
Darby Bible “Thou hast loved righteousness, and hated wickedness; therefore God, thy God, hath anointed thee with the oil of gladness above thy companions.”
Please who are the companions of Jesus? Hebrews 1:4,13 answers this to be the angels. Why do we say so? Because Jesus is God's firstborn Son(Colossians 1:15-16) while the angels are his other sons who do his will(Psalm 103:20, Hebrews 1:14)
So I'm certain that Hebrews 1:9 should be able to clear up the confusion because that place said that Jesus was elevated to a higher position above his peers/companions[the angels] . See Philippians 2:9-11 also. Shadeyinka and all Trinitarian devotees can NOT understand that Philippians 2:9-10 & Hebrews 1:9,13-14, Jesus Christ elevation was in the spiritual realm. Also, the context of Hebrews chapter 1 speaks solely about Jesus elevation above other sons of God in the spiritual realm, Jesus companions in heaven, NOT humans .
Trinity devotees DECEIVING themselves  |
Christianity Etc › Re: Since Jesus 'received' Glory And Honour, Is He An 'inferior/subservient' God? by Janosky: 10:33pm On Dec 30, 2020 |
shadeyinka: The righteous is as bold as a lion.
You can't affirmatically say it as it is because lies must always be hidden to remain effective.
I didn't ask if Jesus was a god or not. I asked if he is a false god!
You needed respond 'cause I'm done. Can two walk together except they agree?
If an angel died for your atonement, good for you: we don't belong to the same family as no angel died for me. Heb 1:13-14: "But to which of the angels said he at any time, Sit on my right hand, until I make your enemies your footstool? Are they not all ministering spirits, sent forth to minister for them who shall be heirs of salvation?"
I rest my case Hebrews 1:13-14, But to which of the angelos ,(Messengers/Sons) of God said he at any time, "Sit at my right hand, until I make your enemies your footstool?
Answer: Revelation 3:21, Luke 1:31-33, To Only one Son (Messenger ) of God, John 7:16 Matthew 20:28 ,Jesus Christ who leads other angelos ( sons, Messengers ) of God, Matt 25:31 ,2Thes 1:7-9. Hallelujah !!! 
Whoever refuse to agree with Revelation 3:21, Luke 1:31-33,Mattheww 25:31, Matthew 20:28 & 2 Thess1:7-9 is free to hold on to his cherished DELUSION[/quote] shadeyinka: Playing dumb doesn't pay you. The truth does! Bros, no dey DECEIVE yourself. Why is it hard for you to ACCEPT John 10:34-36 , 1 Corinthians 8:5 and John 17:3 in his own Bible as AUTHENTIC & inspired word of God?  |
Christianity Etc › Re: How The Bible Shoots Down Jehovah Witnesses False Doctrine by Janosky: 10:11pm On Dec 30, 2020 |
freshboi88: Me I get papa, you u get papa. ABI no be Ur papa born u.
Only a fool will compare our case to Jesus.
Jesus say e no get human papa but Jehovah nah e own papa...
Do you see that u r a mumu for drawing that comparison.
John 1:18. Son of God is equal to Jehovah.
Jesus as Son of God is equal to Jehovah.
As Son of Man is subsevient because he took human form Freshboi, "No man has been God at any time", where is the equality in John 1:18?Who obey this command?: "Sit at my right hand......" Please use your own Bible to tell this forum who did Jehovah obey ? when ?& where ? |
Christianity Etc › Re: How The Bible Shoots Down Jehovah Witnesses False Doctrine by Janosky: 9:57pm On Dec 30, 2020 |
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Christianity Etc › Re: Is It True That Jehovah Witness People Have Their Own Bible? by Janosky: 9:42pm On Dec 30, 2020 |
freshboi88: No. It is modelled after the New World Order LYING Dullard  Isaiah 65:17-25, 2 Peter 3:13, Revelation 21:1-5, it's about the coming New World of righteousness in God's kingdom, under Jesus Christ rulership, Matthew 6:10, Daniel 2:44. Revelation 3:21. Luke 1:31-33 |
Christianity Etc › Re: How The Bible Shoots Down Jehovah Witnesses False Doctrine by Janosky: 9:15pm On Dec 30, 2020 |
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Christianity Etc › Re: Daddy Freeze Reacts To FB Post About A Woman Who Was Pregnant For Eight Years by Janosky: 9:12pm On Dec 30, 2020 |
That baby seems to be older than a new born baby .... I might be wrong, hhhmm !
I won't under estimate what goes on in this clime in the name of "miracle baby" which has no biological connection to either parents.
It seems most couples in this quantiri have acquired Miraculous babies (while wifey is away for long period of time) where they part ways with the Benjamins in certain ungodly places at ungodly hours...
Them go run go church go do "money giving" for gods of men.. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Daddy Freeze Reacts To FB Post About A Woman Who Was Pregnant For Eight Years by Janosky: 8:55pm On Dec 30, 2020 |
madridguy: Daddy Freeze, you don't talk what you don't know .A friend is currently on this as I am typing, going to years now she's yet to put to bed.
She was told not to go under knife otherwise she will die. We are praying for her and I know God Almighty will come to her aid.
This life get as he be, we know dey see no mean say he no dey happen. Wetin dey do your brain ? Do you not know that fibroids enlarge a woman's tommy & and create a false impression of pregnancy? Pls Tell your friend to do the necessary medical texts & confirm what's really in her womb.. Jah have mercy !!!! |
Christianity Etc › Re: Since Jesus 'received' Glory And Honour, Is He An 'inferior/subservient' God? by Janosky: 8:39pm On Dec 30, 2020 |
shadeyinka: Thank you!
In other words, an angel died on the torture stake for the redemption of your soul.
I can see that it is very much in line with Heb 1:13-14: "But to which of the angels said he at any time, Sit on my right hand, until I make your enemies your footstool? Are they not all ministering spirits, sent forth to minister for them who shall be heirs of salvation?"
I want to believe that this represents the answer of the rest of you. Bros, you cherry pick a particular verse & hold on to it desperately but JWs examine every other verse about the same topic/subject... Hebrews 1:13-14 and Matthew 25:31, Rev 3:21, only Jesus Christ was GIVEN his Father's throne. That throne was NEVER given to other bene Elohim (sons of God) whom Jesus leads. Rev3:21, God commanded only one Son to sit on his throne. Hebrews 1:13-14 says other sons of God (bene Elohim, angels) NEVER had that elevation given to Jesus Bros, you have to concur with Jesus @ Matthew 20:28, John 3:16 and John 6:38  |
Christianity Etc › Re: Since Jesus 'received' Glory And Honour, Is He An 'inferior/subservient' God? by Janosky: 8:19pm On Dec 30, 2020 |
shadeyinka: Thank you!
I want to believe that this represents the answer of the rest of you.
Interestingly,
You have avoided the nature of the kind of God Jesus is. Is Jesus a false god?
Do you accept Moses as one of your gods? John 10:34-36 , John 17:3 and 1 Corinth 8:5, did Yahweh command anyone to worship Moses?
The appropriate question is does Shadeyinka ACCEPT John 10:34-36 , 1 Corinthians 8:5 and John 17:3 in his own Bible as AUTHENTIC & inspired word of God? |
Christianity Etc › Re: Since Jesus 'received' Glory And Honour, Is He An 'inferior/subservient' God? by Janosky: 8:08pm On Dec 30, 2020*. Modified: 8:41pm On Dec 30, 2020 |
shadeyinka: Simple questions:
1. By the way: Is Moses also a god to YOU Janosky ?
2. Is Jesus "a false god"? (A Yes or No will suffice) *1 Jesus Christ told Shadeyinka that Yahweh says man is a god , John 10:34-36. Moses was a god during his lifetime. Janosky is a god Shadeyinka is a god. Brother Max is a god. John 10:34-36, Bros, did your Bible confirm it ? [* 2 Bros, in your Bible, 1 Corinthians 8:5, John 17:3 is Jesus a false god?
Shadeyinka DUBIOUSLY frames a question without scriptural authority and he expects an answer without Scriptural authority.  |
Christianity Etc › Re: Since Jesus 'received' Glory And Honour, Is He An 'inferior/subservient' God? by Janosky: 7:44pm On Dec 30, 2020 |
shadeyinka: And that's exactly the same reason that those who has an angel dying for their redemption should not claim they believe the bible for no angel died for me!
Heb 1:13-14: "But to which of the angels said he at any time, Sit on my right hand, until I make your enemies your footstool? Are they not all ministering spirits, sent forth to minister for them who shall be heirs of salvation?"
You didn't answer my question: Did an angel die on the cross for your salvation? The Scriptural answer to your question is Yes ! Matthew 20:28, John 3:16, did Jesus say he was sent to minister to "heirs of salvation"? Yes ! Anyone (whether human being or a spirit person) sent by Yahweh for any mission is already an angel of Yahweh. Jesus is a ministering spirit, angel , (born on earth in the likeness of men Romans 8:3) to minister to your salvation.. Matthew 20:28 & John 3:16,Who no know this scriptural truth, is indeed suffering from spiritual kwashiorkor 
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Christianity Etc › Re: Since Jesus 'received' Glory And Honour, Is He An 'inferior/subservient' God? by Janosky: 6:36pm On Dec 30, 2020 |
shadeyinka: By the way: Is Moses also a god to you?
Is Jesus "a false god"? Q1 Exodus 7:1 Yahweh answered Moses, “I have made you a god to Pharaoh, and your brother Aaron is your prophet. John 10:34, did Jesus confirm that men are gods? Is Moses a man? Did Jesus confirm that Moses is a god ? Is John 10:34-36 in your Bible?
*2. John 10:34-36, did Jesus tell Shadeyinka he (Jesus) is a false god ?
Exodus 12:12, did Yahweh tell Shadeyinka the gods of Egypt is a false god?
1 Corinthians 8:5, according to your Bible who are "gods in heaven and gods on earth"?
Bros, in your Bible Yahweh & Jesus says you're DECEIVING yourself. 
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Christianity Etc › Re: Is Jesus Same Person As The Father? by Janosky: 1:25am On Dec 30, 2020 |
livingchrist: which favour? Lol delusional, acts 3vv13 only emphasize Jesus position that he took. A servant of God, yes Jesus chosed to take that position and became a man. If Jesus was a servant originally why did he have to take the position of a servant?  You people are dull, if not you could have seen how you are contradicting yourself ever since.
Jesus serve God during his earthly ministering hence is called God's servant.
Revelation 15:3 And they sing the song of Moses the servant of God, and the song of the Lamb, saying, Great and marvellous are thy works, Lord God Almighty; just and true are thy ways, thou King of saints.
Moses was called the servant of God even while he has already died and rested from his service.
You see, one can be called a servant of God even whe one has died and rested from their works.
Jesus has served God during his earthly ministry but he is now glorified. Isaiah 42:1, Matthew 12:15-18, Acts 3:13, Do God's servant in heaven stop being his servant on earth?
No dey DECEIVE yourself,  If Acts 3:13 says God glorified God you would claim that the same God in heaven glorified himself on earth, but because the verse says Servant, Bros is doing somersaults.
Revelation 1:1 & 3:12 is Jesus a servant in heaven?
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Christianity Etc › Re: How The Bible Shoots Down Jehovah Witnesses False Doctrine by Janosky: 1:06am On Dec 30, 2020 |
freshboi88: Sense no just follow you.
Philippians will cure your delusion now.
Phil 2:7rather, he made himself nothing
by taking the very nature of a servant,
being made in human likeness
You want us to believe that Jesus was a servant before his incarnation.
But look at bolded can u explain y Jesus will have to take up the nature of servant of he was already one? John 3:16, Isaiah 42:1.. Matthew 12:15-18. *My Servant..." Servant of whom? Romans 8:3 Who sent Jesus to take up the nature of a servant?
John 3:16, Romans 8:3, Matthew 12:15-18 did Jesus tell you he's not a servant?
We know who no get SENSE of the holy Scriptures 
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Christianity Etc › Re: How The Bible Shoots Down Jehovah Witnesses False Doctrine by Janosky: 12:14am On Dec 30, 2020 |
livingchrist: yes they are many and Jehovah witness is one of such lead by satan. No wonder it is called an organization not a church, it is satan's organisation, Jesus own is the church not a satanic organisation called Jehovah witness Is 2 Chronicles 7:14 , Acts 15:14 , John 17:6,26 in your Bible? Whose name was made known to the people , group, Organization called by God's name? ACT 2:42-47 no dey your Bible  |
Christianity Etc › Re: How The Bible Shoots Down Jehovah Witnesses False Doctrine by Janosky: 12:09am On Dec 30, 2020 |
Tcwork: I thought I was clear enough. When a Christian is baptized, it is done in the Name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Ghost. The 3 together work to lead all souls back to God. Bros, This statement: "In the Name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Ghost", Do you realize that no baptism was done in the holy Scriptures where the statement was made? |
Christianity Etc › Re: How The Bible Shoots Down Jehovah Witnesses False Doctrine by Janosky: 12:04am On Dec 30, 2020 |
freshboi88: Even though u have refused to open your heart. I will still tell u the truth.
We are contesting who Jesus is. Was he a servant before he came to earth?
From scripture the answer is No.
Phil 2:7 Instead, he gave up his divine privilegesb;
he took the humble position of a slave.
If this is not clear to you. Then we have to move on from this
If he dropped something and pick up the position of a slave. Then with his divine privileges he is not a slave simple. No dey DECEIVE yourself  Isaiah 42:1.. Matthew 12:15-18. *My Servant..." Servant Of whom? Acts 3:13 even after Jesus left the earth, he is still a Servant Of whom?. Revelation 3:5,12, Jesus in heaven says "my Father, my God".. a servant of whom? |
Christianity Etc › Re: How The Bible Shoots Down Jehovah Witnesses False Doctrine by Janosky: 11:51pm On Dec 29, 2020 |
Emusan: Jesus is your Master, LORD and King? *1 Yet you twist Jesus word and didn't believe in the testimony of the Father who sent His Son.
Jesus Himself said
ASV: For this is the will of my Father, that every one that beholdeth the Son, and believeth on him, should have eternal life; and I will raise him up at the last day. John 6:40
The will of the Father is to believe on the one He sent.
And to believe in Jesus "12 But as many as received him, to them gave he the right to become children of God, even to them that believe on his name:" is to become God's Children "who were [a]born, not of [b]blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God." John 1:13
Which corroborate with Jesus statement that not everyone saying to me Lord, Lord will enter the kingdom of heaven but those doing the will of my Father which is in heaven.
*2 That's why you and millions who will live forever in paradise earth are not doing the will of Jesus Father because all those doing the Father's will enter into kingdom of heaven. *1) Mr LIENUS says Jesus is Yahweh, the Father. He sent himself  * 2 Bros, do you believe Psalms 37:29 & Matthew 5:5 the words of David & Jesus Christ? Your 3 spirits deity dey give you Expo wey Jesus & David no know  |
Christianity Etc › Re: How The Bible Shoots Down Jehovah Witnesses False Doctrine by Janosky: 11:41pm On Dec 29, 2020 |
Preciousgirl: The devil is a liar, Matthew 4:8-9, John 12:31 and 2 Corinthians 4:4, is Jesus, John and Paul lying or this pikin is LYING? |
Christianity Etc › Re: Is It True That Jehovah Witness People Have Their Own Bible? by Janosky: 11:28pm On Dec 29, 2020 |
Kobojunkie: they might as well... Since much of their doctrines tend to run counter to what is in the Bible. Honestly, the same can be said of much of Christianity today since many have abandoned the truth as documented in Scripture to instead pursue after the doctrines and traditions of men, lies which run counter to the truth as declared by God Himself. Continue to DECEIVE yourself.. John 20:17, Rev 3:12,21 your deity declared "our JW God is his God and Father. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Is It True That Jehovah Witness People Have Their Own Bible? by Janosky: 11:26pm On Dec 29, 2020 |
MRAKPORS: If , so why? And wetin be the difference with the other Bible? JWs use ANY Bible available in any language spoken on earth. We have our translation called "NWT" which stands for " the New World Translation of the Holy Scriptures. The difference is that like the Darby Translation, Aramaic Bible and ASV, (to some extent), the NWT uses the Divine name "Jehovah", over 7000 times.. The NWT is an authentic rendition of the Hebrew and Greek manuscript of the Bible into English and other language versions. Sheol ,Hades means Grave not hellfire. Gehenna & Tartarus is translated properly,not misleading hellfire you see in many Bible versions The NWT is in modern,easy to read and understand English. No "thou" ,no "hast", no thine, no thee", all those archaic jargons no dey. The NWT is available and accessible online ( JW official website , Bibliatodo etc). |
Christianity Etc › Re: Is It True That Jehovah Witness People Have Their Own Bible? by Janosky: 11:07pm On Dec 29, 2020 |
peggywebbs: Yes what they left out is that, they got their translation from an already translated version of the bible and did everything to remove verses they don't agree with. Fallacious claim. When Pastorpreneurs spoon-feed you, you gulp everything without checking and cross check what's fact or true.  |