₦airaland Forum

The Dutch Oraanje taught defeated their arch rival, Germany "Manschaaft" by 4-2 in a highly entertaining tie played on German soil...
At halftime, the Germans led 1-0, courtesy of former Arsenal forward, Sergei Gnabry's 9th minute strike..
In the 2nd half, Ronald Koeman inspired his boys to turn the game around to the dismay of Joachim Low led German Team and his coaching staff.
GOAL SCORERS
*Germany
Gnabry (9' minutes),
Kroos (73' minutes pen)

*Netherlands
de Jong (59' minutes),
Tah (66' minutes og),
Malen (79' minutes),
Wijnaldum (90'+1 minutes).

Ryan Babel, Frankie DeJong , Virgil van Dyke and rookie Dutch striker , Malen, were stand out players for the Dutch.
German defender, Tah, had a night to forget..


Ryan Babel, Frankie DeJong , Virgil van Dyke and rookie Dutch striker , Malen, were stand out players for the Dutch.
German defender, Tah, had a night to forget...

Janosky:
https://www.jw.org/en/publications/bible/

Pls get FREE DOWNLOAD of the KJV Bible from the official website of JWs..

** OLAADEGBU and FALSEHOOD are conjoined twins.
DON'T believe OLAADEGBU LYING PHARISEE.

Shalom.

OLAADEGBU:
Did I touch a nerve?

Yours off course!

OLAADEGBU pathological liar, shame on you. JW official website has exposed what you really are.....

malvisguy212:
you are a smart devil. look who is rebuking someone in the name of JESUS CHRIST. you still blasphemy His name. smh

I quoted John10:33,36 ,which that lying fellow estimated as "sin", did you reprimand him?

*

malvisguy212:
@1)
The question I will like to ask you guys, if Jesus is just a man, why will He compare himself with God ? It would be absurd for a mere man to say, "God the Father is greater than I am." If Jesus were not Himself God, how could He compare Himself with the Father? it is blasphemous for a creation to compared himself with the creator.

@2)

the Bible made it clear that when Christ came to earth He laid down His Glory and the splendor that was rightly His and take up the role of a servant.

@3)
the Father is greater than I refers to Jesus in His Messianic office, not to the essential nature of the Godhead. being greater than your son do NOT mean that your son is less human. the comparison is refer to POSITION and not NATURE .
.

@1)
"God the Father is greater than I am."
If Jesus were not Himself God, how could He compare Himself with the Father?

Pls, where did Jesus compare himself with his Father?


2)
John17:24, the Father had "given Jesus glory before the creation of the world."
He was GIVEN the glory. Jesus no get ownership of it before he it was GIVEN to him..


@3)
"NATURE", that word dey confuse you..
Jesus is still INFERIOR to his Father in the spiritual realm. No equality at all. Rev 3:12.

malvisguy212:
you cannot give what you don't have.

Lols.....

Janosky:
I REBUKE your foul mouth in Jesus name Amen...

Lying gbagbo Pharisee pretending to be Christian.
I challenge you to show this public forum what is the "sin" you found in the words of Jesus Christ @ John 10:33,36....

Point out Jesus "sin" in John10:33,36 OR you're a PATHOLOICAL LIAR

malvisguy your pretense here speaks volumes.
Why cherry pick my statement when you cannot prove Jesus "sin" in John 10:33,36.

Lols.....

OLAADEGBU:
@1)
The Trinity Is Illogical[/b]

some cults claim the Trinity is illogical (“three in one”).

In response, the Trinity may be beyond reason, but it is not against reason.

*@2)
The Trinity does not entail three gods in one God, or three persons in one person. Such claims would be nonsensical. There is nothing contradictory, however, in affirming three persons in one God (or three whos in one what).

OLAADEGBU FALSEHOOD.....!

"Hebrews 4:14
Therefore, since we have such a great high
priest who has passed through the heavens,
Jesus the Son of God,"

@Hebrews 5:1
Every high priest is appointed from among
men to represent them in matters relating to
God, to offer gifts and sacrifices for sins.

Hebrews 5:5
So also Christ did not take upon Himself the
glory of becoming a high priest, but He was
called by the One who said to Him: "You are
My Son; today I have become Your Father."
*Hebrews 5:10
and was designated by God as high priest in
the order of Melchizedek."



Your high priest was APPOINTED for the service of his God.

"Therefore he had to be made like his
brothers in every respect, so that he might
become a merciful and faithful high priest in
the service of God," Hebrew 2:17.

Your fake almighty God is a high priest serving himself....
See as holy Bible dey RUBBISH your satanic doctrine...

OLAADEGBU:
@1)
The Trinity Is Illogical[/b]

some cults claim the Trinity is illogical (“three in one”).

In response, the Trinity may be beyond reason, but it is not against reason.

*@2)
The Trinity does not entail three gods in one God, or three persons in one person. Such claims would be nonsensical. There is nothing contradictory, however, in affirming three persons in one God (or three whos in one what).

OLAADEGBU FALSEHOOD.....!

"Hebrews 4:14
Therefore, since we have such a great high
priest who has passed through the heavens,
Jesus the Son of God,"

@Hebrews 5:1
Every high priest is appointed from among
men to represent them in matters relating to
God, to offer gifts and sacrifices for sins.

Hebrews 5:5
So also Christ did not take upon Himself the
glory of becoming a high priest, but He was
called by the One who said to Him: "You are
My Son; today I have become Your Father."
*Hebrews 5:10
and was designated by God as high priest in
the order of Melchizedek."



Your high priest was APPOINTED for the service of his God... .
See as holy Bible dey RUBBISH your satanic doctrine...

bingbagbo:
These are the words of Jesus Christ
John 14:8-9

NKJV

8 Philip said to Him, “Lord, show us the Father, and it is sufficient for us.”
9 Jesus said to him, “Have I been with you so long, and yet you have not known Me, Philip? lHe who has seen Me has seen the Father; so how can you say, ‘Show us the Father’?


I pray the Lord grants you understanding

*** Ephesians 1:3,17

v3. "Blessed be the God and Father of our
Lord Jesus Christ, who has blessed us "

v17 " that the God of our Lord Jesus Christ, the Father of glory, may give you the Spirit of wisdom and of revelation in the knowledge of him"

The holy Scripture is showing PROOF that Bingbagbo Pharisees is conjoined twin of FALSEHOOD.
LYING Pharisees wey no know God dey twist the holy Scriptures...

Apostle Paul dey pray make una receive sense !!!!!

bingbagbo:
John 14:8-9

NKJV

8 Philip said to Him, “Lord, show us the Father, and it is sufficient for us.”
9 Jesus said to him, “Have I been with you so long, and yet you have not known Me, Philip? lHe who has seen Me has seen the Father; so how can you say, ‘Show us the Father’?



Praise Jesus!

Ephesians 1:3
" Blessed be the God and Father of our
Lord Jesus Christ,"
Compare John20:17

*** John 17:18,21
18 n As you sent me into the world, so I have sent them into the world.
21 that they may all be one, just as
you, Father, are in me, and I in you, that
they also may be in us, so that the world
may believe that you have sent me "

According to bingbagbo's wacky theology, the Father , his disciples and Jesus is one God.

Seun, pls kindly foot the bill for bingbagbo's mental health evaluation.
Gbagbo needs to consult a Shrink URGENTLY.

solite3:
Question: "What does it mean that Jesus is the Son of God?"

Answer: Jesus is not God’s Son in the sense of a human father and a son. God did not get married and have a son. God did not mate with Mary and, together with her, produce a son. Jesus is God’s Son in the sense that He is God made manifest in human form (John 1:1, 14).

Jesus is God's Son in that He was conceived in Mary by the Holy Spirit. Luke 1:35 declares, “The angel answered, 'The Holy Spirit will come upon you, and the power of the Most High will overshadow you. So the holy one to be born will be called the Son of God.’”

Jesus is the Son of God. The Son of God is God. Jesus is God made manifest (John 1:1, 14).

Luke3:38 Adam is God's son.
Based on solite3 wacky mumu logic, Which woman did God mate with? Adam is a Spirit in a human body. Adam is God jare.

Mary sef come born God, mother of God.

bingbagbo:
Why are you so vexed by this simple Truth? You will die in your sins if you don't believe I am he

I REBUKE your foul mouth in Jesus name Amen...

Lying gbagbo Pharisee pretending to be Christian.
I challenge you to show this public forum what is the "sin" you found in the words of Jesus Christ @ John 10:33,36....

Point out Jesus "sin" in John10:33,36 OR you're a PATHOLOICAL LIAR

bingbagbo:
John 5:17-18 English Standard Version (ESV)

17 But Jesus answered them, “My Father is working until now, and I am working.”


18 This was why the Jews were seeking all the more to kill him, because not only was he breaking the Sabbath, but he was even calling God his own Father, making himself equal with God.



Jesus Christ is God almighty

Gbagbo lying Pharisee equates himself with the Pharisees who Lied against Jesus....


Gbagbo is lying that when "calling God his own Father, it means Gbagbo is "making himself equal with God."

John 10:33,36 Jesus Christ throway your lie put for dustbin.
Sawdust brain Gbagbo Pharisee ,
Trinity scam dey turn you to mumu..

*

OLAADEGBU:
5. Jesus Prayed

Some cults argue that because Jesus prayed to the Father, He could not truly be God.

Biblically, however, it was in His humanity that Christ prayed to the Father. Since Christ came as a man—and since one of the proper duties of man is to worship, pray to, and adore God—it was perfectly proper for Jesus to address the Father in prayer.

Positionally speaking as a man, as a Jew, and as our High Priest—"in all things He had to be made like His brethren" (Hebrews 2:17)—Jesus could pray to the Father. But this in no way detracts from His intrinsic deity.

OLAADEGBU conjoined twin of FRAUD.
Your "high priest God" ascended to heaven to live with his God & Father, Jehovah in heaven. (John20:17)

E get high priest wey no dey serve a 'Superior Being' whether in the physical or the spiritual realm ?
Hebrew 4:14-16, Jesus Christ is a heavenly high priest answerable to whom?

Who tell you say Jesus the high priest no dey supplicate him God in heaven?


Revelation 3:5,12 NAILS the coffin of your satanic, Trinity fraud.

Rev 3:16-18,Jesus Christ has said he will vomit out OLAADEGBU conjoined twin of FRAUD.

Janosky:
It's very obvious that Greek 'theotes' meaning divine nature has no correlation with Godhead.
The word "Godhead" was coined with the dubious intent to claim that God is 3 "heads" in one God.

johnw47:
@1)
Godhead is english, not greek, it means the same as Divinity ....
@2

either way it still means the same thing
Father and the Holy Ghost dwells in the Lord and saviour Jesus Christ

@1) Johnw FRAUD has no proof of Greek theotes - divinity, divine nature" in his KJV.. the guy too fall in love with LIES.


@2)

the FRAUD still admitted that
" it still means the same thing ,Father and the Holy Ghost dwells in the Lord and saviour Jesus Christ"
3 heads (triune face) in one God.


Shame on Johnw FRAUD.

OLAADEGBU:
So you could not say for a fact that Jesus Christ is Lord and Saviour? Do you now see why I said you need to be born again?

Kumuyi "born again" worshipper asking for the expo of John17:3.....
John17:3 expose your mumu.... that scripture big pass your Pharisee level..

*

[quote author=johnw47 post=81899185

Godhead
θεότης
theotēs
theh-ot'-ace
divinity (abstractly): - godhead.


Col 2:9  For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily.

=

Col 2:9  For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Divinity bodily.[/quote]Johnw FRAUD.
Greek theotes" = divinity, divine nature". NOT Godhead.
"Godhead" is ALIEN to koine Greek.

The crooked Pharisee had to remove any reference to KJV in his definition quote.
**#**

θεότης
divinity (abstractly)
Derivation: from G2316 ;
KJV Usage: godhead.


Your FRAUD KJV invented "godhead".

I challenge Johnw FRAUD. Show us where the word Greek word for "divinity", divine nature" is in your KJV.

https://studybible.info/strongs/G2320

* Previous Strong's #G2319 Next Strong's #
G2321
Lookup Strong's Number
LSJ Gloss:
θεότης
divinity, divine nature
Dodson:
θεότης
deity, Godhead.
Strong's:
θεότης
divinity (abstractly)
Derivation: from G2316 ;
KJV Usage: godhead.

solite3:
No. Angels are not called the begotten Sons o God

solite3:
lol read what you posted carefully.
Is this not what I have been saying.
Begotten is used to decribe a special relationship it does not mean created.

You claimed that Heb1:5 "Jesus is begotten, wasn't created. he is Almighty God".
Based on your faulty logic, Hebr 11:17-19, Isaac is begotten, doesn't mean Isaac was born.(No cherry picking. "Only begotten applies to both Isaac & Jesus). Therefore, Isaac is Abraham. You dey see am?[/quote]

*

blueAgent:
Using your so called Greek translations will still not solve your problem for example.

Even if we change the words of that Bible verse to
Unique or special Son as your monogenes definition claims.
it still does not make Jesus equal with God becos it only told us the kind of Son Jesus is , which is a unique or special son, but it did not change the fact that God called Jesus his Son.


Here is the definition.

Monogenes has two primary definitions, "pertaining to being
the only one of its kind within a specific relationship" and
"pertaining to being the only one of its kind or class, unique in
kind". [1] Thus monogenēs (μονογενής) may be used both as
an adjective monogenēs pais , meaning unique and special. [2]
Its Greek meaning is often applied to mean "one of a kind, one
and only". Monogenēs may be used as an adjective . For
example, monogenēs pais means only child, only legitimate
child or special child. Monogenēs may also be used on its
own as a noun. For example, o monogenēs means "the only
one", or "the only legitimate child". [3]
The word is used in Hebrews 11:17-19 to describe Isaac , the
son of Abraham. However, Isaac was not the only-begotten

Greek monogenes is used in the conext of parents (dad/mom) and only child relationship.
The bone stuck in the throat of Trinitarians is:
1) how did parents /only child relationship arise?
Birth (humans) /Creation (by God. Psalms 90:2).
2)
Is parents /only child, a relationship of two equals?
3).
Heb11:17-19. Isaac is Abraham's begotten son, does it mean Isaac is not his son,(same applies to Jesus ?

blueAgent:
First am not a Jehovah witness.
secondly
what does the word Godhead mean
and can it be used in place of the word
Trinity? The fact is there is no
relationship with the Trinity and the word
Godhead at all as you are about to find
out. Godhead refers to God the Father.
And making this issue a little more
confusing, Godhead is often a word used
by those with the non-Trinitarian truth
for lack of a better word to use in
opposition to the word Trinity.
More and more Trinitarians are using the
word Godhead in place of Trinity
thinking that changes what it is. But
calling the Trinity by another name will
never change what it is. You can call a
cat a dog but it will still be a cat. And
you can call the Trinity the Godhead but
it will still be the Trinity!
The word Godhead is found in 3 verses
in the King James Bible which are
translated from three different Greek
words that have slightly different
meanings but all basically mean the
same thing.
In Acts 17:29 the Greek word translated
Godhead is “theios” (G2304) and means
to be godlike and hence divine.
Acts 17:29 KJV “Forasmuch then as we
are the offspring of God, we ought not to
think that the Godhead is like unto gold,
or silver, or stone, graven by art and
man's device. ”
The same Greek word is used in the
verse below but has been translated to
the word “divine.”
2 Peter 1:3 KJV “According as his divine
power has given unto us all things that
pertain unto life and godliness, through
the knowledge of him that has called us
to glory and virtue: ”
In Romans 1:20 the Greek word
translated Godhead is
“theiotēs” (G2305) and refers to the
divine nature.
Romans 1:20 KJV “For the invisible
things of him from the creation of the
world are clearly seen, being understood
by the things that are made, even his
eternal power and Godhead ; so that they
are without excuse: ”
And in Colossians 2:9 the Greek word
translated Godhead is “theotēs” (G2320)
and means deity as in the state of being
God.
Colossians 2:9 KJV “For in him dwelleth
all the fulness of the Godhead bodily. ”
So the word Godhead speaks of the
“Divine nature” of the Father which has
been given to the Son and hence is in
the Son as we find in Colossians 2:9
above. Thus Jesus being the firstborn
over all creation (Colossians 1:15 ), and
being brought forth from the Father, He
has the same “Divine nature” as His
Father.
Colossians 1:19 KJV “For it pleased the
Father that in him should all fulness
dwell;”
Spirit of Prophecy is also very clear
which says. “The Father is all the fullness
of the Godhead bodily, and is invisible to
mortal sight. ” — (E.G. White, BTS, March
1, 1906)
And so Christ being the Son receives this
fullness, “He [Christ] was not the Father
but in him dwelt all the fullness of the
Godhead bodily,” — (E.G. White, Lt8a,
July 7, 1890)
John 5:26 also tells us that the Father
gave life to His Son. “For as the Father
has life in himself; so has he given to the
Son to have life in himself. ” John 5:26 . If
Jesus had always existed alongside the
Father as the Trinity doctrine claims,
then God could not have given life to His
Son as He would have always had life.
But Scripture reveals this is impossible.
And so neither does the word Godhead
explain the non-Trinitarian position in
opposition to the word Trinity.

It's very obvious that Greek 'theotes' meaning divine nature has no correlation with Godhead.
The word "Godhead" was coined with the dubious intent to claim that God is 3 "heads" in one God.

malvisguy212:
why do the Jews wanted to kill Him ?

John 10:33" the Jews FALSELY accuse Jesus.
John 10:36 Jesus replied them. "Because I said I am God's son"

Jesus reply proved that the Jews were lying...
That's crystal clear, no twisting.
33 The Jews answered Him, saying, “For a good work we do not stone You, but for blasphemy, and because You, being a Man, make Yourself God.”

36 do you say of Him whom the Father sanctified and sent into the world, ‘You are blaspheming,’ because I said, ‘I am the Son of God’? "

malvisguy212:
hey!!! the father and the Son are Two DISTINCT person, there Role is in the Godhead are different .
The Son is "the express image of His (God’s) person
" ( Heb 1:3), meaning He answers exactly to God’s substance. All that God is He is.

the Jews Jesus had this argument with understand Jesus more than the cult you are defending ( Jehovah witness ) when Jesus address God as his father, this is what they say:
John Chapter 5
18 Therefore the Jews sought the
more to kill him, because he not
only had broken the sabbath, but
said also that God was his Father,
making himself EQUAL WITH GOD.

the Jews understand this verse more than you , unless you want to give heed to seducing doctrines of the devil, which I believed you already do

Why you dey LIE and deceive yourself?
When Malvis says "God is my Father",does Marvin mean that he is "equal with God "?

John 14:28
"You have heard how I said to you, I go away, and come again to you. If you loved me, you would rejoice, because I said, I go to the Father: for my Father is greater than I.


John 20:17
Jesus saith unto her, Touch me not; for I am not yet ascended to my Father: but go to my brethren, and say unto them, I ascend unto my Father, and your Father; and to my God, and your God."

John 14:28. 20:17. 10:34-36.
Jesus proved that the Jews were lying.
Marvis pharisee is dubiously passing off the falsehood of unbelieving Jews as truth.

Point of emphasis :
"I ascend unto my Father, and your Father; and to my God, and your God"
His God is our God, therefore those Jews were lying against Jesus in order to kill him. John 10:34-36.

*

OLAADEGBU:
"And this is life eternal, that they might know thee the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom thou hast sent" (John 17:3).

You are yet to answer the question. The question still is: Do you know Jesus Christ as your Creator, Lord and Saviour?

OLAADEGBU Pharisee diversionary tactic.. doing USAIN BOLT on those fundamental questions knocking out his mumu doctrine.


OLAADEGBU Pharisee go and ask Jesus Christ what his words @John17:3 actually mean...
Kumuyi your pastorpreneur god, can not give you the answer....

FACT....
OLAADEGBU pharisee conjoined with FALSEHOOD, have ZERO CONNECTION with Jesus.

malvisguy212:
@1) The message is clear in Micah 5:2, ancient of days is synonymous to eternal, which mean His origin is UNKNOWN.

@2) The book of John 17 :5 explained it more. Jesus claimed to share the Glory with God before the world was created, doesn't it mean that His origin is unknown ?

@1).
You're lying & promoting a FRAUD.
Micah5:2, says "his origin is from ancient times, from the days of long ago".
That verse NEVER said Jesus is the Ancient of Days"
Daniel 7:13,14 says Jesus is son of man, NOT "Ancient of Days".


@2) John17:22,24, Jesus Christ says his Father gave him the glory because his Father loves him before the founding of the world".
Further PROOF he is God's son in heaven.

Note: John 17:1 Jesus prayed for the Father to give him the glory (proof he did not own it but it was granted to him. Compare John 11:41,42).

**#**

In heaven ,
@i)
Yahweh gave Jesus appointed Jesus as heir,gave him inheritance. Heb1:2-3.

@ii)
Yahweh granted Jesus authority. Matt28:18.

@iii)
Yahweh gave Jesus a name above other names. Phil2:9

@iv)
Yahweh granted life to Jesus. John5:26.

@v)
Yahweh is the God and Father of our lord Jesus Christ. Ephesians 1:3,17. Rev3:12.




Proof : Jesus says his God and Father is the only true God. John 17:3.

OLAADEGBU:
Do Ancient Coptic Manuscripts Vindicate Jehovah Witnesses At John 1:1?

Jehovah's Witness literature attempts to defend their erroneous translation of John 1:1 by appealing to copies of ancient Coptic translations that they think agree with them. This line of argument fails for multiple reasons.

Source

STORY for the gods. Straw man sophistry.
OLAADEGBU lying Pharisee & carm lying Pharisee have ABSOLUTELY ZERO PROOF that Coptic bibles of the 2nd/3rd centuries in John1:1 never said "the word is a god".


https://www.scribd.com/document/25496486/Translating-Sahidic-Coptic-John-1-1



http://nwtandcoptic..com/2008/04/coptic-john-11-ambiguous.html?m=1

OLAADEGBU:
Is Jesus Christ your personal Saviour and Lord?

I stand on John17:3, the very words of Jesus , my Messiah.
OLAADEGBU Pharisee conjoined with FALSEHOOD, go and answer the questions above you wey you take dey practice USAIN BOLT.

Re: Is Jesus Really God? by OLAADEGBU ( m ) : 7:09pm Janosky : John17:3, who is the ONLY TRUE GOD? Does Jesus Christ have a God? Who is the God of his Father? "Christ is first in rank" of what? " 'Christ is "first in rank', who is his God? If your claims are true, you won't be doing USAIN BOLT on these fundamental questions begging for answers..
**$$$*** OLAADEGBU ran away from the above questions on his thread. Who can bail him out?

malvisguy212:
Micah 5:2. say His origin is UNKNOWN .....

Pls quote the Bible version with that expression "His origin is UNKNOWN..."
I have NEVER seen that expression in any bible whether online or offline.