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Christianity EtcRe: Is Jesus Really God? by Janosky: 8:23pm On Sep 02, 2019
OLAADEGBU:
Your authority is the Watchtower magazine and until you make the Bible as your final authority you will continue to argue until the cow comes home and when you do so you will then realise that the Jesus of the Bible is quite different from the Jesus portrayed in the Watchtower magazine. You need the real Jesus of the Bible in your life because He is the light of the Light of the world and when He shines His light into your heart the darkness will not be able to comprehend it.
Nairalanders & guests following this thread, pls ask OLAADEGBU LYING Pharisee conjoined with FALSEHOOD, if " Watchtower" spoke the words of John17:3...

OLAADEGBU Pharisee is a pathetic, pathological LIAR.
What a clown who FALSELY claim to follow Jesus !
You ALL can see that Trinity is a man made scam.....
Christianity EtcRe: The Christian Doctrine Grid by Janosky: 7:55pm On Sep 02, 2019
OLAADEGBU:
JWs.... also believe that Jesus is a god.
John10:34-37 Jesus Christ is a god.
(Jesus says God's sons are gods. Jesus Christ is God's son. Gaskiya !).
IRREFUTABLE PROOF !!!!!!!
Christianity EtcRe: The Christian Doctrine Grid by Janosky: 7:48pm On Sep 02, 2019
vybzkartel:
They are not Christians; they are jehovians
LYING vybzkartel of FALSEHOOD. Acts3:13, Revelation 3:12 reset your brain....
Christianity EtcRe: Is Jesus Really God? by Janosky: 7:37pm On Sep 02, 2019
OLAADEGBU:
I will only respond to your objections when your authority shifts from the words of sinful, fallible men to the infallible word of God. cool
OLAADEGBU LYING Pharisee, who spoke the words of John17:3 , from which the questions were based ?

OLAADEGBU conjoined with FALSEHOOD.

Christianity EtcRe: Is Jesus Really God? by Janosky: 6:59pm On Sep 02, 2019
Ken4Christ:
Jesus is Lord and he is God. The Bible is very clear on it. He himself is subject to his Father but does not make him a lesser God in the same way your boss is not more human because he is your boss.
John17:3, who is the ONLY TRUE GOD?
Does Jesus Christ have a God?
Who is the God of his Father?

OLAADEGBU:
[b]3. Jesus Is the Firstborn
The term firstborn, defined biblically,
means Christ is "first in rank"
"Christ is first in rank" of what?
" 'Christ is "first in rank', who is his God?

If your claims are true, you won't be doing USAIN BOLT on these fundamental questions begging for answers..
CrimeRe: Deeper Life Pastor, Tunde, Commits Suicide In Ogun After Being Duped by Janosky: 6:13pm On Sep 02, 2019
TechCapon:
The only pastors that enjoy are the general overseers and those close to them. All these branch pastors don't have access to the purse as everything is forwarded to the headquarters.
I had a chat with a pastor who dumped christ embassy and he told me that he's thanking God every day that he stepped down as pastor because it felt like a huge burden was lifted off his shoulders.

How can you give a pastor of a small church a monthly target of 500k? They put pressure on the pastor who will then transfer the pressure to the members of the church.
Corporate Business Franchise in practice.
In Pastorpreneurship 101, PTL is not 'Praise the Lord' but "Pass The Loot" (monthly target) to Oga at the top......
FamilyRe: Should A Wife Submit Her Salary? by Janosky: 11:46pm On Sep 01, 2019
jarmy:
Good day House.

Please, I need the response of only married couples.

Also, kindly indicate your sex.

My wife and I have been married for about 10 years now. We are blessed with two kids.
During courtship, we agreed that we will have a joint budget which will be funded by the income of both of us.

Initially, I was the only one working, with take-home pay of 40k. She then got a job of about 36k. back then, she would
withdraw her salary and hand it over to me. What I usually do is to hand it over to her and ask her to use it for feeding
while I take care of all other expenses with my salary.

My salary is now about 95k and her's 65k. Our children's school fees, house rent, feeding etc have all increase, no thanks to the current economic realities!

My wife stopped handing over are salary and insisted that I should be giving her feeding money. I clearly explained to her that my income can not accommodate feeding, for now, explaining clearly how I spend my salary and other income but she still insisted that I should be giving her feeding money

The thing is she is into so many saving schemes, without my approval. She just wants to save money!
She is insecure and doesn't trust me. She wants her own stuff: her own car, her own house, etc.

I have never cheated on her, I pay the rents, school fees, paid for her post-graduate programme, buy foodstuffs occasionally etc.

What should I do?
It takes two to tango.
With good ,honest communication, trust,mutual love and seek divine intervention coupled with fear of God, you and wife will tango very well on this matter and every other issue in your home.
She's has misgivings about this matter.
Are you reckless with money?
She has broken no law if she's not hand over her entire paycheck to you.
Every couple must mutually work out an arrangement that works for them.
You have to speak truth to each other in order to solve this issue.
Please thread with caution and wisdom.
Christianity EtcRe: Jesus Christ Is Same As God Of The Old Testament-see Proof! by Janosky: 10:33pm On Sep 01, 2019
vybzkartel:
You will die in your sins, if you don't believe I AM HE
If you truly believe John 3:16,John7:16, you won't make that statement.

I have NOT sinned by referring to the very words of My Messiah, Jesus Christ.

I stand on the authority of Jesus Christ words in

John3:16, John7:16,Jesus Christ is saying you're VERY STUPID
Christianity EtcRe: The Trinity Doctrine Is a False doctrine and it is Unbiblical. by Janosky: 10:27pm On Sep 01, 2019
solite3:
The is group included men, angels, the Son and the father , the holy Spirit is not included so it does not mean the holy Spirit does not know.
You have started your name calling again instead of attacking issues.
"Only my Father knows"
For emphasis : the word "ONLY" excludes Holy Spirit.

Solite3 confess this truth joor. You're in a tight corner. grin
Christianity EtcRe: Is Jesus Really God? by Janosky:
https://biblehub.com/greek/2937.htm

◄ 2937. ktisis ►
Strong's Concordance
ktisis: creation (the act or the product)
Original Word: κτίσις, εως, ἡ
Part of Speech: Noun, Feminine
Transliteration: ktisis
Phonetic Spelling: (ktis'-is)
Definition: creation (the act or the product)
Usage: (often of the founding of a city), (a) abstr: creation, (b) concr: creation, creature, institution; always of Divine work, (c) an institution, ordinance.
HELPS Word-studies
Cognate: 2937 ktísis – properly, creation (creature) which is founded from nothing (this is also the sense of this term from Homer on); creation out of nothing

NAS Exhaustive Concordance
Word Origin
from ktizó
Definition
creation (the act or the product)
NASB Translation
created thing (1), creation (14), creature (

Thayer's Greek Lexicon
STRONGS NT 2937: κτίσις

κτίσις, κτίσεως, ἡ (κτίζω), in Greek writings the act of founding, establishing, building, etc.; in the N. T. (Vulg. everywherecreatura (yet Hebrews 9:11creatio))
1. the act of creating, creation: τοῦ κόσμου, Romans 1:20.

2. equivalent to κτίσμα, creation i. e. thing created (cf. Winers Grammar, 32); used a. of individual things and beings, a creature, a creation: Romans 1:25; Hebrews 4:13; any created thing, Romans 8:39



b. collectively, the sum or aggregate of created things: Revelation 3:14

◄ Revelation 3:14
King James Version
And unto the angel of the church of the Laodiceans write; These things saith the Amen, the faithful and true witness, the beginning of the creation of God"

Compare Mark 10:6.
King James Bible
"But from the beginning of the creation God made them male and female."

Point of emphasis :
"the beginning of the creation " of God in both Rev3:14 and Mark10:6 mean the same thing, 100%.
In Revelation 3:14 it is applied to Jesus Christ.

Colossians 1:15.
King James Bible
"Who is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of every creature"

OLAADEGBU Falsehood fall yakata....
Christianity EtcRe: Is Jesus Really God? by Janosky:
OLAADEGBU:
3. Jesus Is the Firstborn

Some cults argue that because Jesus is the "firstborn of creation" (Colossians 1:15), He is a created being and hence cannot be truly God. Biblically, however, Christ was not created but is the Creator (Colossians 1:16; John 1:3). The term firstborn, defined biblically, means Christ is "first in rank" and "preeminent" over the creation He brought into being.
Lie lie Pharisee Olaadegbu conjoined twin of FALSEHOOD.
Colossians 1:16,Did Jesus create his Father?

Bible > Strong's > Greek > 4416
◄ 4416. prototokos

Strong's Concordance
prototokos: first-born
Original Word: πρωτότοκος, ον
Part of Speech: Adjective
Transliteration: prototokos
Phonetic Spelling: (pro-tot-ok'-os)
Definition: first-born
Usage: first-born, eldest.

You claim he is the 2nd person of the Trinity.

"First in rank", Or "first in which rank?

In the beginning of your procreative powers, who is the preeminent?
Christianity EtcRe: Jesus Christ Is Same As God Of The Old Testament-see Proof! by Janosky: 8:15pm On Sep 01, 2019
vybzkartel:
Anti Christ spotted, so you doubt Paul's writing?: jw indeed.
John3:16, John7:16 Jesus Christ is saying you're VERY STUPID.
Christianity EtcRe: Jesus Christ Is Same As God Of The Old Testament-see Proof! by Janosky:
bingbagbo:
Whom are u witnessing?

Acts 1:8
Roman 1:1
New Living Translation
This letter is from Paul, a slave of Christ
Jesus, chosen by God to be an apostle and
sent out to preach his Good News.


Mark 1:14
After the arrest of John, Jesus went into
Galilee and proclaimed the gospel of God.

Acts 8:12-14,36-38.
12 But when they believed Philip preaching
the things concerning the kingdom of God,
and the name of Jesus Christ, they were
baptized, both men and women.
13 Then Simon himself believed also: and
when he was baptized, he continued with
Philip, and wondered, beholding the miracles
and signs which were done.
14 Now when the apostles which were at
Jerusalem heard that Samaria had received
the word of God, they sent unto them Peter
and John:

36 And as they went on their way, they
came unto a certain water: and the eunuch
said, See, here is water; what doth hinder
me to be baptized?
37 And Philip said, If thou believest with all
thine heart, thou mayest. And he answered
and said, I believe that Jesus Christ is the
Son of God.
38 And he commanded the chariot to stand
still: and they went down both into the
water, both Philip and the eunuch; and he
baptized him.

Vs12-14, Philip preached the kingdom of God, Samaria "received the word of God."


Vs37" The Ethiopian eunuch was baptised after his public confession, " I believe that Jesus Christ is the Son of God.'
Very Different from Gbagbo's "Jesus is God" satanic gospel.
These ones were Jehovah's witnesses jare.
Go ahead and argue with Philip and the Ethiopian eunuch for exposing your mumu.
Christianity EtcRe: The Trinity Doctrine Is a False doctrine and it is Unbiblical. by Janosky:
Emusan:
@1)
Show me where in that verse that says the ONE LORD was appointed.....you haven't done that!


@2)
If not because your brain is paining you:

ALL THINGS ARE FROM THE FATHER
ALL THINGS ARE THROUGH JESUS

If your deluded brain can't see the correlation sorry I can't help you.
@1) Acts2:36, does Emusan believe it?
Have you removed Acts of the Apostles from the holy Scriptures?

Acts 2:36, God his Father appointed him.

". Assuredly, therefore, let all the house of
Israel know, that both Lord and Christ did
God make him "

@2)
John14:28
"You heard Me say, ‘I am going
away, and I am coming back to you.’ If you
loved Me, you would rejoice that I am going
to the Father, because the Father is greater
than I. "


John 7:33
"So Jesus said, "I am with you only a little
while longer, and then I am going to the One
who sent Me."

John 10:29
"My Father who has given them to Me is
greater than all."

** Emusan, Lie, lie Pharisee.
Your Jesus is the Father ,see your FICTITIOUS correlation.
My Questions:
If Jesus is the Father, John7:33, who is he going to be with?
Can you go leave your place of dwelling and go visit yourself?

John14:28, Since he is the father,can Jesus be greater than himself?

John10:29, "my Father is greater than ALL, excludes who?

I'm not sorry I can't help you......

Christianity EtcRe: The Trinity Doctrine Is a False doctrine and it is Unbiblical. by Janosky: 1:17am On Sep 01, 2019
johnw47:
@1).
the word was with "the God" indicates the word was with the Father

@2
it would be poor grammar to word the verse to indicate that the Word was with "the God"(Father)
and the word was "the God"(Father),

In the beginning was the Word, and the Word
was with (the)God(Father), and the Word was (the)God(Father)
Johnw MUST YOU LIE about the posts of solite3 and Ian Paul?
Johnw, U Dimwitted, brain scrubbed Pharisee, you're very Pathetic, Shameless LIAR,
Why can't you see that your fellow crooks ,Solite3 quoted Ian Paul who wrote the words @3?

"solite3 :
Does John 1.1 mean ‘The Word was a
god’?
February 13, 2011 by Ian Paul
*@2)
The Greek of John 1.1 is as follows,
transliterated into English letters:
En arche en ho logos, kai ho logos
pros ton theon, kai theos en ho logos.
You can see near the end of John 1.1
that we have theos without an article,
and logos throughout with the article.
@3)
In other words, theos en ho logos
means ‘the word was God’, which tells
us something about the nature of the
word,
.
ACCORDING TO SOLITE3 & IAN PAUL, John1:1c
" theos en ho logos means ‘the word
was
God’, which tells us something about
the
nature of the word,"


**$$**
In other words, the Word is a god"
(meaning "godlike or divine nature" ).
Las, las, the word is of the nature of
God,"



@2)

You're a disgusting wreck of a write off !
Your dimwitted LIE is a testament to the POO you pass off as intelligence.
Abeg, stay off my post & mention.
Shalom.
Christianity EtcRe: Is Jesus Really God? by Janosky: 12:41am On Sep 01, 2019
OLAADEGBU:
2. The Father Is "Greater" Than Jesus

Some cults argue that because Jesus said the Father is "greater" than Him (John 14:28), this must mean Jesus is a lesser God. Biblically, however, Jesus is equal with the Father in His divine nature (John 10:30). He was positionally lower than the Father from the standpoint of His becoming a servant by taking on human likeness (Philippians 2:6–11). Positionally, then, the Father was "greater" than Jesus.
LIE na your conjoined twin.
Matt 19:5,6 husband and wife are one.

@ 1 Cor11:3 PROOF you're twisting John10:30...

JESUS KNOCK OUT TRINITY..

**** Revelation 3:5,12 in the spiritual realm is a copy of John14:28, & 20:17 in the physical realm.

Pharisee dey worship Kumuyi ,use Jesus cover him face.
Jesus SPOIL your market FOREVER.
Christianity EtcRe: The Trinity Doctrine Is a False doctrine and it is Unbiblical. by Janosky: 12:13am On Sep 01, 2019
solite3:
Peter has explained what he meant by partaking in the Devine nature you cant twist it to fit your delusion.
Re: Does John 1.1 Mean ‘the Word Was A
God’?
by Janosky : 9:14pm On Aug 19

"solite3 :
Does John 1.1 mean ‘The Word was a
god’?
February 13, 2011 by Ian Paul

*@2)
The Greek of John 1.1 is as follows,
transliterated into English letters:
En arche en ho logos, kai ho logos
pros ton theon, kai theos en ho logos.
You can see near the end of John 1.1
that we have theos without an article,
and logos throughout with the article.
@3)
In other words, theos en ho logos
means ‘the word was God’, which tells
us something about the nature of the
word,
.


In effect, John1:1c
" theos en ho logos means ‘the word was
God’, which tells us something about the
nature of the word,"
In other words, the Word is a god (meaning
"godlike or divine nature" ).
Las, las, the word is of the nature of God,"

*** Solite3 Pharisee PROVED that the Word (Jesus) is of divine nature, therefore, Jesus "the Word is a god" or godlike.

@ John10:34, Jesus says Men are gods. God's sons are godlike beings.

1 Cor8:5 "there are gods in heaven and gods on earth", humans are partakers of divine nature in heaven by virtue of resurrection to heavenly life. 1 Cor 15:50.

The Final VERDICT:
Solite3 Pharisee is a LIAR wey no get sense..
Christianity EtcRe: The Trinity Doctrine Is a False doctrine and it is Unbiblical. by Janosky:
Emusan:
Where in that verse wasn't it stated that the ONE LORD was appointed?

The same verse read "...and ONE LORD Jesus Christ by whom ARE ALL THINGS..." so ALL THINGS included Jesus Himself bah undecided undecided undecided undecided
** Good News Translation
yet there is for us only one God, the Father,
who is the Creator of all things and for
whom we live; and there is only one Lord,
Jesus Christ, through whom all things were
created and through whom we live.

* GOD'S WORD® Translation
But for us, "There is only one God, the
Father. Everything came from him, and we
live for him. There is only one Lord, Jesus
Christ. Everything came into being through
him, and we live because of him."

"
*Jesus
Ἰησοῦς (Iēsous)
Noun - Nominative Masculine Singular
Strong's Greek 2424: Of Hebrew origin;
Jesus, the name of our Lord and two other
Israelites.
*Christ,
Χριστός (Christos)
Noun - Nominative Masculine Singular
Strong's Greek 5547: Anointed One; the
Messiah, the Christ. From chrio; Anointed
One, i.e. The Messiah, an epithet of Jesus.
* THROUGH
δι’ (di’)
Preposition
Strong's Greek 1223: A primary preposition
denoting the channel of an act; through.
* whom
οὗ (hou)
Personal / Relative Pronoun - Genitive
Masculine Singular
Strong's Greek 3739: Who, which, what, that.
all
πάντα (panta)
Adjective - Nominative Neuter Plural
Strong's Greek 3956: All, the whole, every
kind of. Including all the forms of
declension; apparently a primary word; all,
any, every, the whole.
things [came]"

*** Emphasis on the word "THROUGH".
Let that word reset your brain.
Emusan is very off key and off point.
Christianity EtcRe: The Trinity Doctrine Is a False doctrine and it is Unbiblical. by Janosky: 2:34pm On Aug 31, 2019
solite3:
a servant or a master who is greater?
John 13:16 " English Standard Version Truly, truly, I say to you, a servant is not greater than his master, nor is a messenger greater than the one who sent him."
John 7:16,. 17:18,do you believe the words of Jesus?
Christianity EtcRe: The Trinity Doctrine Is a False doctrine and it is Unbiblical. by Janosky: 2:13pm On Aug 31, 2019
solite3:
this is crap
Paul said We have one Lord.
If the father is also Lord does that not make it two Lords?
The only explanation is that both the father and the Son are actually one being.
Oh yeah ! it's crap to brain scrubbed Emusan Pharisee..

Revelation 3:5,12 ,Jesus words PROVED your sawdust brain.

Between 'Jagaban' and the newly sworn in "Sheriff in town" ,who dey govern each other?
Christianity EtcRe: The Trinity Doctrine Is a False doctrine and it is Unbiblical. by Janosky: 2:11pm On Aug 31, 2019
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Christianity EtcRe: The Trinity Doctrine Is a False doctrine and it is Unbiblical. by Janosky: 2:08pm On Aug 31, 2019
Emusan:
Just as the issue here is ONE LORD!



The fact is, Apostle Paul made it plain that "There's ONR LORD" which is Jesus Christ you can continue to twist it or remove that from your Bible as you do to many.


But you've been fighting your conscience ever since I showed you that "There's ONE LORD which is Jesus Christ" then the Father isn't Lord....
Matt 11:25, Jesus says his Father is "Lord of Heaven and earth" who made Jesus both "Christ and Lord " (Acts 2:36).
1 Cor 8:6 Jesus is "one Lord" but NEVER Lord over his Father or equal status of Lordship.
His Father has authority over Jesus lordship.


@1 Cor15:27, it's similar scenario, his Father is OUTSIDE Jesus jurisdiction, NOT subject to Jesus kingship.
Emusan ,brain scrubbed Pharisee....
Christianity EtcRe: The Trinity Doctrine Is a False doctrine and it is Unbiblical. by Janosky:
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Christianity EtcRe: The Trinity Doctrine Is a False doctrine and it is Unbiblical. by Janosky: 9:43am On Aug 31, 2019
orisa37:
Trinity is not false. Read the Bible again and again.
John14:28. 20:17,Revelation 3:2,5,12, does Jesus agree with you?
Christianity EtcRe: Jesus Christ Is Same As God Of The Old Testament-see Proof! by Janosky: 9:28am On Aug 31, 2019
bingbagbo:
Christian Standard Bible
For some people, who were designated for this judgment long ago, have come in by stealth; they are ungodly, turning the grace of our God into sensuality and denying Jesus Christ, our only Master and Lord.

Contemporary English Version
Some godless people have sneaked in among us and are saying, "God treats us much better than we deserve, and so it is all right to be immoral." They even deny we must obey Jesus Christ as our only Master and Lord. But long ago the Scriptures warned that these godless people were doomed.

Good News Translation
For some godless people have slipped in unnoticed among us, persons who distort the message about the grace of our God in order to excuse their immoral ways, and who reject Jesus Christ, our only Master and Lord. Long ago the Scriptures predicted the condemnation they have received.

Holman Christian Standard Bible
For some men, who were designated for this judgment long ago, have come in by stealth; they are ungodly, turning the grace of our God into promiscuity and denying Jesus Christ, our only Master and Lord.

International Standard Version
For some people have slipped in among you unnoticed. They were written about long ago as being deserving of this condemnation because they are ungodly. They turn the grace of our God into uncontrollable lust and deny our only Master and Lord, Jesus the Messiah.


New Heart English Bible
For there are certain men who crept in secretly, even those who were long ago written about for this condemnation: ungodly men, turning the grace of our God into sensuality, and denying our only Master and Lord, Jesus Christ.


GOD'S WORD® Translation
Some people have slipped in among you unnoticed. Not long ago they were condemned in writing for the following reason: They are people to whom God means nothing. They use God's kindness as an excuse for sexual freedom and deny our only Master and Lord, Jesus Christ.

New American Standard 1977
For certain persons have crept in unnoticed, those who were long beforehand marked out for this condemnation, ungodly persons who turn the grace of our God into licentiousness and deny our only Master and Lord, Jesus Christ.


American Standard Version
For there are certain men crept in privily, even they who were of old written of beforehand unto this condemnation, ungodly men, turning the grace of our God into lasciviousness, and denying our only Master and Lord, Jesus Christ.

Douay-Rheims Bible
For certain men are secretly entered in, (who were written of long ago unto this judgment,) ungodly men, turning the grace of our Lord God into riotousness, and denying the only sovereign Ruler, and our Lord Jesus Christ.

Darby Bible Translation
For certain men have got in unnoticed, they who of old were marked out beforehand to this sentence, ungodly [persons], turning the grace of our God into dissoluteness, and denying our only Master and Lord Jesus Christ.

English Revised Version
For there are certain men crept in privily, even they who were of old set forth unto this condemnation, ungodly men, turning the grace of our God into lasciviousness, and denying our only Master and Lord, Jesus Christ.


Weymouth New Testament
For certain persons have crept in unnoticed--men spoken of in ancient writings as pre-destined to this condemnation--ungodly men, who pervert the grace of our God into an excuse for immorality, and disown Jesus Christ, our only Sovereign and Lord.


I am glad you know you were long condemned for hell, keep lying to please your master Satan

The evidence here is overwhelming, Jesus is Lord God, halleluyah
" The grace of our God", is that the One Jesus called "Our Father"(Matt6:9), "my God and your God"(John20:17.)?

Is it true or False ?
Make devil shame small....Gbagbo, answer this questions above:


Jesus Christ CONDEMNED Gbagbo's LIE LIE.


Gbagbo lying Pharisee done comot John20:17 from him Bible......

John 20:17 King James Version (KJV)
"17 Jesus saith unto her, Touch me not; for I
am not yet ascended to my Father: but go to
my brethren, and say unto them, I ascend
unto my Father, and your Father; and to my
God, and your God."

John20:17, Revelation 3:12, Jesus done spoil your market.
Keep posting CORRUPTED verses of the Bible.


@2)
It's really amusing that Gbagbo lying Pharisee commented an old thread some time ago where he labeled NIV, NASB,ISV,ASV etc as "SATANIC BIBLES" & claimed that KJV is the only authentic one.
For the convenience of his LIE,LIE, his KJV is not authentic to him.
Quote your KJV here make everyone see am, You Hypocrite.
Christianity EtcRe: Does John 1.1 Mean ‘the Word Was A God’? by Janosky: 12:16am On Aug 31, 2019
solite3:
I m waiting to bust your lies
Janosky:
Solite3 shot himself on his foot.
You simply copy and paste what you don't even understand.....

@3) Solite3 have proved that his claims @1) is FALSE...
In effect, John1:1c
" theos en ho logos means ‘the word was God’, which tells us something about the nature of the word,"
In other words, the Word is a god (meaning "godlike or divine nature"wink.

Las, las, the word is of the nature of God, but is NOT God in person because
"the Word was with ton theon (the God)"
That is what John 1:1c is saying & that is what JWs believe ....
.

John 1:1 Emphatic Diaglott

"In a beginning was the Word,
and the Word was with the God, and a god
was the Word."
You and your copy paste partner KILLED your mumu doctrine and PROVED JWs to be true.
Solite3 & his confused Pharisee LIAR, Ian Paul have confessed that Trinity is a FRAUD.
They said :
"theos en ho logos means ‘the word was God’, which tells us something about the nature of the word,"
In other words, the Word is a god (meaning "godlike or divine nature"wink. "
In simple language, Solite3 admitted that Ian Paul and himself agreed that John1:1c "TELLS US SOMETHING ABOUT THE NATURE OF THE WORD" ,that the Word is godlike or divine nature, ( Every one following this thread, pls ,go and check the meaning of "godlike" or "divine", then come and show us the meaning/definition....)
Christianity EtcRe: Does John 1.1 Mean ‘the Word Was A God’? by Janosky:
nutarious:
@1)
Would it now mean the Word that ypu said has a form of god has his beginning with God.
How would you explain a god coexistence with God from the Beginning.

@2)
Before you respond, this Beginning given to John the beloved was not same as the Beginning of Moses revelation, Moses saw the beginning of Creation but John saw the Beginning of the Godhead.

@3)
So if the Wors were in the beginning then you need to explain to us how a god was in Existence with God from the beginning?

Lemme learn from you? Thanks!
Your questions/enquiries, @1) is similar to @3), pls if you mean @3) is different, pls refraime @3).

@1) John5:26, what did Jesus say about his own beginning?
Jesus says his Father GRANTED LIFE to him.
(You can ONLY be granted what you don't have, Ok!)
Pls reason on this fact.
Jesus in heaven calls YHWH "my Father", my God" (Rev3:5,12) and on earth (John14:28. 20:17).


John16:28.
New King James Version
I came forth from the Father and have come
into the world. Again, I leave the world and
go to the Father.”

(Compare Matt 2:6. Numbers 24:19.).
"Came Forth" is the key word here...
'Nutarious' came forth from her father/mother.... "I came forth from my Father", it's meaning is crystal clear enough....


@2)
It's the same..... Moses was given phase by phase Genesis account of YHWH's creative operation.
But ,John was given the revelation that YHWH made it possible ("THROUGH" =Greek 'Dia antou", John1:3. 1 Cor8:6. Heb:1,2. Col1:16) through Jesus...
John revealed the info that Moses did not give in Genesis account.

@3)
Trinitarians fabricated the concept of the son as coequal, self-existent ,coeternal blah blah blah....
As you have seen,
Jesus spoiled that coequal, coeternal, self existing fairytale. Rev3:5,12. and John5:26 .
If Trinitarians admit Rev3:5,12 and John5:26. 16:28 is gospel truth, their market done spoil be that....
Christianity EtcRe: Does John 1.1 Mean ‘the Word Was A God’? by Janosky: 6:52pm On Aug 30, 2019
solite3:
The name of Jesus of Jesus is the only name given to men to call upon


Acts 4:12
Neither is there salvation in any other: for there is none other name under heaven given among men, whereby we must be saved.

Meaning If you call upon Jehovah for salvation, you are not saved
Lying Pharisee solite3 with falsehood, the name "given among men" by whom?
Christianity EtcRe: Jesus Christ Is Same As God Of The Old Testament-see Proof! by Janosky: 6:34pm On Aug 30, 2019
bingbagbo:
◄ Jude 1:5 ►
New Living Translation
So I want to remind you, though you already know these things, that Jesus first rescued the nation of Israel from Egypt, but later he destroyed those who did not remain faithful.

English Standard Version
Now I want to remind you, although you once fully knew it, that Jesus, who saved a people out of the land of Egypt, afterward destroyed those who did not believe.

Berean Study Bible
Although you are fully aware of this, I want to remind you that after Jesus had delivered His people out of the land of Egypt, He destroyed those who did not believe.

Berean Literal Bible
Now I want to remind you, you having known all this, that Jesus, having saved at one time a people out of the land of Egypt, afterward He destroyed those not having believed.





Christian Standard Bible
Now I want to remind you, although you came to know all these things once and for all, that Jesus saved a people out of Egypt and later destroyed those who did not believe;



NET Bible
Now I desire to remind you (even though you have been fully informed of these facts once for all) that Jesus, having saved the people out of the land of Egypt, later destroyed those who did not believe

Douay-Rheims Bible
I will therefore admonish you, though ye once knew all things, that Jesus, having saved the people out of the land of Egypt, did afterwards destroy them that believed not:


Jesus Christ is YHWH Almighty
Aramaic Bible in Plain English
1 Yehuda, the Servant of Yeshua The
Messiah and the brother of Yaqob, to the
Gentiles called by God The Father, beloved
ones, and kept by Yeshua The Messiah.
2 Mercy, peace and love be multiplied to
you.
3 Beloved, when I gave all diligence to write
to you about our common life, it was
necessary for me to write to you, as I am to
persuade you to compete for the faith,
which was once delivered to The Holy
Ones. 4 For men have obtained entrance,
who from the beginning were written with
this guilty verdict: "Evil men who pervert
the grace of our God into an abomination
and deny him who is the only Lord God and
Our Lord Yeshua The Messiah."
5 I wish to remind you, as you all know, that
God, when once he had brought the people
out from Egypt, afterward destroyed those
who did not believe."

@1).
Jude1:4 done already spoil your market.
Your posting of twisted Scriptures will NOT alter the truth.
Revelation 3:5,12 in the spirit realm, Jesus Christ says he is son of his God and Father.
Lying Pharisee argue with Jesus...

@2)
Jesus Christ himself NEVER supports your Jude1:5 FRAUD.

@3)

Even your cherished and beloved KJV counters your Jude1:5 FRAUD.... lols
New King James Version

Greeting to the Called
"*1 Jude, a bondservant of Jesus Christ, and
brother of James,
To those who are called, [a] sanctified by
God the Father, and preserved in Jesus
Christ:
*4 For certain men have crept in unnoticed, who long ago were marked out for this
condemnation, ungodly men, who turn the
grace of our God into lewdness and deny the
only Lord [b] God and our Lord Jesus Christ.
Old and New Apostates
*5 But I want to remind you, though you once
knew this, that the Lord, having saved the
people out of the land of Egypt, afterward
destroyed those who did not believe."
Christianity EtcRe: Is Jesus Really God? by Janosky: 3:35am On Aug 30, 2019
OLAADEGBU:
An Analogy

A helpful analogy of the Trinity is that God is like a triangle that is one figure yet has three different sides (or corners) at the same time. So there is a simultaneous threeness and oneness. Of course, no analogy is perfect since in every analogy there is a similarity and a difference. For example, water can exist simultaneously in three different states as ice, water, and steam; that is, as a solid, liquid, and a gas at pressure of 4 Torr and temperature of 273K. One substance but three totally different personalities.
Fake analogy .Sophistry.
Revelation 3:12 (KJV ) reset your mumu analogue analogy.
Kumuyi worshipper pretending to follow Jesus.
You will lie against Rev3:12,as usual.
Christianity EtcRe: All You Need To Know About The Jehovah Witness Bible (new World Translation) by Janosky: 3:23am On Aug 30, 2019
bingbagbo:
Who is YWHW again?

Confused demon-possessed Jw cultist serving Satan.

Jesus Christ is YHWH!
Gbagbo the ENEMY of Jesus Christ, ,enemy of truth, can you TWIST Revelation 3:12 ?
Christianity EtcRe: If Jesus Is God Almighty, David Is The Almighty Too by Janosky: 3:15am On Aug 30, 2019
johnw47:
below is a interlinear of rev 1 verse 11, it shows Jesus is the Alpha and Omega, the same as the kjv shows
EVERYBODY KNOWS THAT if you bake your bread or cake with broken or dented pan, you must see the dents or defects on your bread or cake.
The final results MUST show the defects..
That is the BEST WAY to explain the FRAUD in the KJV Textus Receptus (TR) manuscript that Johnw lying Pharisee is hiding from everyone reading this thread.
Pls, go ahead and check ALL the different bible translations of Revelation 1:11 on the link below:
SOURCE: https://biblehub.com/
revelation/1-11.htm


** You will discover that the KJV and some few Bibles have the same rendition. They are from the same 16th century TR manuscript.

**The authentic renditions of Revelation 1:11 is NOT from the TR manuscript.
Shalom.

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