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OLAADEGBU:
Why JWs Hate The KJV

https://www.jw.org/en/publications/bible/

Pls get FREE DOWNLOAD of the KJV Bible from the official website of JWs..

** OLAADEGBU and FALSEHOOD are conjoined twins.
DON'T believe OLAADEGBU LYING PHARISEE.

Shalom.

johnw47:
once again:
God(Father) never bought the Word into existancw because the Word always existed in God

God(Father) begat the word, bought Him out of Himself

You existed in your Father's loins before he brought you forth....
Your Father brought you out of himself (from his loins).
Likewise, Jesus Christ was "brought forth" (meaning =Created) .
You need to enroll in an Adult Literacy Class to get better understanding of English, because (you're contradicting yourself , I'm not the first person to say that here ooo. Others have said so too) you just proved that your brain is sawdust.
Desperado defending a scam doctrine. . Lols

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Emusan:
@color part says alot about your hypocrisy and beclouded mind....

The content of Isaiah 9:6 alone cannot make a reasonable human to conclude the person El Giboa was applied to should be in the same category with human.

Isaiah9:6, Your "God" is a son "given" by whom?
Lol...

johnw47:
you think: "which is and which was", is diffrent to:
Heb 13:8  Jesus Christ the same yesterday, and to day, and for ever.?

you think Jesus is not coming?

when john turned to see the Alpha and omega who was speaking, who did he see? Jesus or the Father



lie lie™ barrister, read it again:

the previous verses 5,6 and 7 john spoke about Jesus, and then in verse 8 Jesus says:

Rev_1:8  I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the ending, saith the Lord, which is, and which was, and which is to come, the Almighty.

^^^ john called the Alpha and Omega(Jesus), the almighty

in verse 11 the Alpha and Omega spoke again
John turned to see Him, he saw Jesus, the Almighty, as in verse 8:

Rev 1:11  Saying, I am Alpha and Omega, the first and the last: and, What thou seest, write in a book, and send it unto the seven churches which are in Asia; unto Ephesus, and unto Smyrna, and unto Pergamos, and unto Thyatira, and unto Sardis, and unto Philadelphia, and unto Laodicea.

Barristter07:
You are mistaken, I didn't think . verse 4 and 5 explains that already

** For your information, Johnw lying Pharisee is using a DUBIOUS addition into the KJV , (Revelation 1:11) to prove his FRAUD doctrine.

SOURCE: https://biblehub.com/revelation/1-11.htm

Ellicott's Commentary for English Readers
(11) I am Alpha and Omega.--In this verse
we pass from St. John to Him who was the
Word, of whom St. John gave testimony. He
who is the faithful witness now speaks.
"What thou seest, write," &c. The previous
words, "I am Alpha," &c., are not found in the
best MSS. The words "which are in Asia,"
are also omitted."

@2) In Rev1:8 "the beginning and the ending," were SPURIOUS addition into the Textus Receptus,16th century manuscript for the KJV.


If Johnw had sense nobody needs to tell him that in Rev 1:5,6 Jesus in heaven choose men to serve God his Father., perfect proof Jesus is God's son in heaven.

The son can not be "the Almighty" in verse 8 since he is the Son in heaven,. Then,verse 11, "Alpha and Omega" is a proven FRAUD.

johnw47:
but there is nothing holy about the changed-perverted nwt scriptures, oh blinded know nothing
except for the holes after it is torn up, laugh

Una dey see as person wey think say he get sense dey reason?
You're already losing touch with reality.
Pls go ahead and consult a shrink before you reach 'next level'...

Modernist:
I'm not a Jehovah witness ooo

bingbagbo:
Jw cultist spotted

Gbagbo lying Pharisee doing what he knows best....
Psychotic Gbagbo....

rosy1992:
Jesus Christ said I am in my father and my father is in me in John 14 : 11, this depicts the equality . Both the father and son are one.

My questions for you:

@1)

John14:28, What did Jesus Christ say to you?

@2)
Matt19:5,6 Husband and wife are one, pls explain 1Corinthians11:3.

Preciousgirl:
His so-called? Who then is your Lord and saviour?

I laugh

My Ransomer & Mediator ,Jesus is speaking in Revelation 3:12, the words you have proved you don't believe.

Preciousgirl:
Holier than thou, brainwashed Jehovah witness agent of satan

Very idiotic post.
Birds of a feather must flock together.
You're not different from him anyway in that aspect (you know what I mean), I'm not surprised.

Mumu Pharisee,in your copy of the Bible, What fellowship does Jehovah have with Satan?

johnw47:
@1)
me did not say Jesus is not the same God as Father, me said Jesus is not the same person as Father,


@2

yes indeed God is a Spirit, Father and the Word is that Spirit that is God,

johnw47:
@3)

Christ is not the same God of Himself, oh most confused one.....Jesus is God."

@1-
Jesus and the Father same God,two persons.


@2)
"God is a spirit" (In simple English, a single spirit being). Johnw still claims that "Father and the Word", two spirits is a single spirit.


@3)
The Words of Johnw LIAR and confused Pharisees is there for everyone to see...


In a nutshell, Johnw reasoning faculty is neither normal nor sane...
Desperado defending a satanic scam.

malvisguy212:
you are simply a comedian. you will do well in the entertainment industry

Diversionary tactics and lame excuses.
No thanks.
Show PROOF to this Forum that Points @1) to @5) is not in your copy of the Bible.
The junk that pastorpreneurs spoonfed you can not help you.
That is why the Bible truth in Points @1) to @5) is comedy to you.

MRAKPORS:
Seek Jesus

https://www.nairaland.com/5299540/she-witch

Okokobioko !!!!!!!


Fake Christian....
Which Jesus you dey seek where Fornication be your sports ?
Professional fornicator dey bash JWs....

wetin Musa no go see for gate...

MRAKPORS:
Yeah, this fruit



Frank MGrowing up with family members who were Jehovah's Witness pedophiles, he couldn't wait to leave this religion.
Growing up in a perverse family of pedophiles, Frank’s Jehovah’s Witness childhood was riddled with sex abuse and spiritual confusion. As a child, Frank had dreams of pleasing Jehovah and ruling with Christ, but these dreams were quickly squelched by rejection from his father and the religious hypocrisy he experienced in the Jehovah’s Witnesses. By nineteen, Frank had enough, and he left the organization. Although Frank’s spiritual journey is far from complete, he is happy to be free from the dictates of religious oppression in the Jehovah’s Witnesses.

Copy and paste FALSEHOOD.
Show us the evidence You have lived under the same roof with Frank M since the day you were born....

bingbagbo:
Devil-possessed jw cultist quoting from his corrupted new world translation which was translated by a guy who lied under oath in court.
Jesus Christ is God Almighty,

Revelation 3:12 KJV
" Him that overcometh will I make a pillar in
the temple of my God, and he shall go no
more out: and I will write upon him the
name of my God, and the name of the city of
my God, which is new Jerusalem, which
cometh down out of heaven from my God:"


Gbagbo lying Pharisee in Sifia pains.
Agent of devil wey no get shame.
This lying Pharisee done comot Rev3:12 from him KJV Bible.....


The words of Jesus Christ you REJECTED will ALWAYS haunt you.

Jesus Christ your so-called " lord and personal saviour" will REJECT you- agent of FALSEHOOD. Matt 7:23.

You're a fake and a FRAUD Christian.

johnw47:
false jw's

satan who is "a god"(the god of this world) and is "a angel"
really likes you false jw's calling the Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ "a god" and "a angel" like he satan is

it must makes him(satan) feel equal to Christ, and it is the lie that he has put into your hearts

and into your perverted nwt, i must add

Dull brain Johnw lying Pharisee.
Revelation 3:12 & John17:3 reset your mumu brainwashed lies.
Rev3:12 ,John17:3 Jesus the Son of his God and Father says your mumu is beyond redemption.
Go & cook up more lies to copy and paste.

Naijboy:
JW and their evil doctrines are like 7 and 8. Keep on denying our lord Jesus of his deity. One day you will meet him face to face on the judgement seat but it will be too late for you.

Revelation 3:12 ,the truth of Jesus words dey make your brain pain you.
The words of Jesus Christ dey reset your mumu lies.

HedwigesMaduro:
From this logic it means you are as old as your dad since you were in his "bowels" before you were born, so to say.

Johnw lying Pharisee and his falsehood are conjoined twins.
Him mumu tie wrapper.

bingbagbo:
Copies of the NWT should be torn apart and destroyed. Tear them apart and throw them in the garbage!

Demonic David J.Stewart and Gbagbo lying Pharisees.
Go and research history of bible translation, ONLY ENEMIES of YWHW (such as demonic Stewart and Gbagbo Pharisees) carry out the barbaric, evil practice of burning the holy Scriptures.

Even though at times I critic the KJV because of 1 John5:7 and other frauds in it, I WOULD NEVER burn the word of God.
Shame on you Pharisees

johnw47:
there is some argument whether that verse should be there but it is true none the less

@ Revelation 3:12,Jesus says it's a FRAUD.

akeensbussy:
n the King James Version Bible, 1 John 5:7 reads: For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one.

Abegi komot That FRAUD @1John5:7 KJV from here.
Pls go & do research on how that FRAUD found it's way into the KJV.

bingbagbo:
Jesus Christ is God Almighty, you are dying by this simple truth, but I careless

Rev3:12,the truth of Jesus words hurts......
Gbagbo lying Pharisee in sifia pains

johnw47:
Christ is not the same God of Himself, oh most confused one

hint, two persons, one God, as in john 1:1 and many other scriptures showing Jesus to be God

Confused Pharisee confusing others
John 1:1, the Word was face to face with "Ton theon (the God )",The Word and the God are two spirit beings facing each other.
Confused Pharisee come and twist Rev 3:12

johnw47:
your dad begat you, you and your dad are of the human spirit

Father God begat the Word, the Word and his Father are of the God Spirit, God is a Spirit

not two spirits - not two gods as false jw's believe

Brain scrubbed Pharisee,your father begat you therefore you and your father is one human being.

Johnw lying Pharisee who says Jesus is not the same God the Father but him Pharisee brain shut down.
"God is a Spirit" , is a single spiritual being.
Dubious Pharisee had to type "not two gods " whereas he can NEVER prove where JWs called YHWH "two gods"
Mumu Pharisee.

Emusan:
My brother I know them and their Antichrist standard...

They don't have any other mission than denying Christ deity.

Pharisees Emusan and Solite3 consoling themselves with falsehood.

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malvisguy212:
@1) Can we really understand the trinity ? We can't , how can a finite being understand an infinite God ?

@2)
Our responsibility is to believe what God has said about Himself.

@3)
The old testament prove the fact that there is ONLY ONE GOD. Isreal is surrounded with many nation that worship different gods. God people needed to know that there is only ONE GOD:

Deut. 6:4
"Hear, O Israel, the LORD our God is ONE LORD"

This verse give two details about God. 1. The nature of God (God's ONENESS) and 2. Jehovah is the only God. The old testament emphasizing of the UNITY of God, is not silent with respect to the PLURALITY of God's Nature. The old testament lay the groundwork for the new testament revelation.

The hebrew word for God is Elohim, plural in
form."In the beginning God CREATED" (Genesis
1:1). God is the omnipotent CREATOR! The
name for "God" found in Genesis 1:1 is the
Hebrew word "ELOHIM" the ending of this word
(..IM) is a plural ending,(more than one) just like
our english language "S" is the ending word for
plural. For example:

1. CHERUBIM (Exodus 25:18-20)
2. SERAPHIM (Isaiah 6:2,6)
3. TERAPHIM(judges 17:5)

The words end with IM , they are plural in form.
In Genesis 1:1 the verb "CREATED" is a
SINGULAR verb, and it means "HE (singular)
CREATED." Two answers may be given to the
question, "Who created the heavens and the
earth?".

1. HE DID (singular) because the verb means
"HE CREATED." The verb does not mean
"THEY CREATED."
2. GOD DID (plural) because the word
ELOHIM is a plural word!

So, there is a sense in which God the Creator is
singular. There is only ONE God and He is the
Creator. There is no other God. It is also true
that there is a sense in which He is plural. This
brings us to our next point:

PLURAL UNITY OF GOD.
Deuteronomy 6:4 says: "Hear, O Israel: The
LORD [singular] our God [ELOHIM-plural] is ONE
Lord."

God is Love, if God is two, our Love will be
DIVIDED and one will not Get our full devotion.
So YES, God is ONE and He deserve our Full
attention.

@4 ) Hebrew word"ONE"found in Deuteronomy 6:4
is a word that can be used to describe a
plural (composite) UNITY (a unity made up of
more than one component). For Example in
Genesis 11:5 "Behold, the PEOPLE IS ONE." The
people (plural) at Babel were united together as
ONE. It was a UNITY, but it was made up of
many people (a plural unity).

@4)ii.
Another example is in Genesis 2:24 where the
same word "one" is found: "Therefore shall a
man leave his father and his mother and shall
cleave unto his wife and they shall be one flesh."
Here we have a plural unity. It is a ONENESS
made up of two persons" a husband and a wife"
They (plural) shall be one (singular) flesh. The
two are one.

Just as Genesis 11:5 speaks of a plural unity
(many people being ONE), and just as Genesis
2:24 speaks of a plural unity (two people being
ONE),

@5)
In Isaiah 6:8 , we have a threefold
declaration of God's holiness: "And one cried
unto another, and said, HOLY, HOLY, HOLY is
the LORD of hosts: the whole earth is full of His
glory" (Isaiah 6:3). we learn elsewhere in
Scripture, namely that 1) God the Father is Holy
(John 17:11); 2) God the Son is Holy (Heb. 7:26
and compare Luke 1:35); 3) God the Holy Spirit
is Holy (as His very Name declares)

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1... 1Cor14:33 YHWH is not a God of confusion. The one true God will not confuse His servants.

2)
John5:43,Jesus came to earth in his Father's name to reveal his Father and God.
What did God reveal to man? Matt 3:16,17. Matt16:13-17. Revelation 1:1,5,6. 3:2,5.

@3)
Man is Elohim (Gods on earth) . Angels are Elohim,(Gods in heaven) 1Cor 8:5. Jesus says he's a God John 10:34-36.
Elohim is a plural descriptive of majesty,grandeur .not plurality of persons. (For instance, a Yoruba man will tell you "my Fathers is not at home" ,even though he's referring to one Father,not multiple fathers)
God too is Elohim. Psalms 82:1,6. 1Cor8:4. Elohim is a title for man, angels and the Almighty God (El-shaddai.)
Who is the One true Elohim? Only YHWH,Deu6:4. 1Cor8:6. Ex6:3. Psalms 83:18.
John 17:3,Jesus says it's YHWH, his God. Rev3:12.

@4)
This is the foundation of Trinity Scam-3 persons in one being.
Gen11:5,many people being one.
The question is :
Are they one entity/one being?
Husband and wife is one (flesh).Matt 19:5,6.
Are they one entity?
You know that the Jesus is DISTINCT from his Father and God, YHWH. Two separate spirit beings. 1Cor15:24-27. John 17:18.
But Trinitarians LIE they are one being /one entity /one spirit /One God.
Why

@5
Isaiah 6:8 doesn't convey anything co-relating to your claims. Very desperate attempt to prove a false claim.
Did YHWH not say you must be holy because HE is Holy 1Peter 1:16, Why you no connect am join your claim?

Emusan:
Now, to your question:
But because of the redemption role Christ is still playing until fulfillment of the whole promises of God.

The Bible recorded some kind of revelation about the presence of the Father in heaven but the only person the Bible says we'll see is Jesus Christ till every process is complete and "God MAY BE ALL IN ALL" 1 Corinthian 15:28

Adam Clarke puts it this way "...then the son Son, as being man and Messiah, shall cease to exercise any distinct dominion and GOD BE ALL IN ALL: there remaining no longer any distinction in the PERSONS of the glorious TRINITY...."

This is one of the verses many people who argue against Trinity don't understand.

My humble submission!

Emusan dubious submission!
Eleyi gidigaan Twister !!!
1Cor15:27, destroys the lie of co-equal triune God.
"it is evident that this does not include the One ( his Father and God) who subject all things to him (Jesus) "
V28 the Son will hand over to his God and Father,
"then the son will also subject himself to the One (his God) who subjected all things to him"
The God and Father of Jesus was NEVER co-equal with his son, Jesus in the heavenly realm where the event of 1Cor15:27-28 took place.

solite3:
1) Jesus is not God the Father but God all the same.
Jesus has same capacity as the Father and the Holy Spirit but has a different role which I think is based on the personality of the trinity.
God the Father is the Authority of God
God the Son is the word, the one who makes enacts the decisions of God.
God the Holy Spirit is the one who brings it to pass.
All three are in agreement in every way.

@2)

The Father is greater than Jesus because Jesus himself was made even lower than the angels in its earthly life.


Hebrews 2:9 But we see Jesus, who was made a little lower than the angels for the suffering of death, crowned with glory and honour; that he by the grace of God should taste death for every man.

@1) According to solite3 thinking.(in line 3). he done give him "God(s)" division of labour .. Lols. NOT according to the Holy Scriptures..
Everyone take note!

"Jesus is not God the Father"
John 14:28, is Jesus a lesser God ?
@2)
In Jesus heavenly life, what is his current status?

malvisguy212:
look, the Jews , ( the teachers of the law) they understand Jesus very well and they know His point that's why they wanted to stone Him.

if Jesus appear to you and ask this question :

Matthew 16:15
15 “But what about you?” he asked.
“Who do you say I am?”

that He is the Angel Michael ? simon Peter answer this question , " you are the Son of the living God" they understand Jesus very well. . As a result, the Jewish leaders tried to kill Him because in "calling God his own Father, [Jesus was] making himself equal
with God" nobody understand this laws more the Jews.

Malvis said "the Jewish leaders tried to kill Him because in "calling God his own Father, [Jesus was] making himself equal with God"

** The Question is :
If Malvis is "calling God his own Father," is Malvis actually making himself equal with God"?

Malvis pls reply....

malvisguy212:
I pity you. concerning the origin of Jesus , what does Micah 5:2 say ? smh

Micah5:2.
"As for you, Bethlehem Ephrathah, seemingly
insignificant among the clans of Judah--
from you a king will emerge who will rule
over Israel on my behalf, one whose origins
are in the distant past."



"But you (Bethlehem) Ephrathah, the least of
the clans of Judah, from you will come for
me a future ruler of Israel whose origins go
back to the distant past, to the days of old"
Two different Bible translations ....
Malvis ,where you see "his origin is UNKNOWN"?

malvisguy212:
in Hebrew chapter one, it was God the father speaking here,
Now about the angels He says: “He makes
His angels winds, His servants flames of fire.”
8 But about the SON He says: “Your throne, O
GOD, endures forever and ever, and justice is
the scepter of Your kingdom.

That's another corrupted verse twisted to support FALSEHOOD.
Hebrews 1:8 is a copy of Psalm 45:6.

@1) No Israelites reads Psalms 45:6 and concluded that their human king is God.
Because "Your throne oh God" is NOT genuine.
"God is (the foundation of) your throne" ,Your divine throne" is AUTHENTIC and CORRECT.

2) Jesus is an offspring of King David, prophesied to sit on the throne of David in Luke 1:30-33. Revelation 3:21.Jesus says "My Father's throne"

@3) @1Chronicles 29:23. 28:5, the throne of David is 'the throne of God', granted to offsprings of David.

@4) Psalms 45:6, says "your divine throne" ,or "God is (foundation of) your throne". (compare 1st Chronicles 29:23. 28:5).
That is what the Israelites/Jews were reading in Psalms 45:6 and Hebrews 1:8.