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johnw47:
[/quote]"Jesus is both God and man...
A comparison can be found in the marriage relationship. Biblically,a man is greater in position and authority than his wife but he is no different in nature- being human & they work together in love"

johnw47 sophistry is very weak and full of loopholes!

"The one God", an Almighty spirit being, can NEVER WORK TOGETHER with himself . HE is not Jesus,who is a different spirit being. The two spirit beings are very distinct & can NOT be one entity

. Your fake analogy means that husband & wife is one being (one God) who share human nature. In other words, the man is husband & wife simultaneously. Likewise the woman simultaneously.
Oturugbeke !!!

Johnw47 quoted Gal 4:4
"When the time came ,God sent forth his son, born of a woman.. "
If Johnw47 understands English , that verse shows that in heaven Jesus is a son of God before the time he was born of a woman on earth.


According to Johnw47;
"Other verses to consider when examining his deity are John 10:30-33, 20:28.. ."


John 10:34-36
"Jesus answered them... why then do you accuse me of blasphemy because I said I am God's son"

John 20:17
Jesus said.... I am returning to my Father and your Father, to my God and your God"

Thomas called Jesus "my lord and my God", no shaking.

The Father and God of Jesus is the same Father and same God of Thomas & his fellow apostles . Jesus talk say himself & Thomas dey worship the only true God, Jehovah.
The Father and God of Jesus is GREATER THAN ALL" John 10;29
Therefore Jesus. NEVER thought or considered himself equal with God, even though he is a spirit being like his Father. John 14:28
(Johnw47 twisted Phil 2:6-9).
"We (my Father and I) are one" means two persons who. walk together in agreement . Amos 3:3
Johnw47 dey spread junk doctrine of Trinity

johnw47:
the group practicing christianity
are people of God given faith who believe God's word

some are in organised churches some not, the church can be called:

the Church of Jesus Christ
Mat_16:18  And I say also unto thee, That thou art Peter, and upon this rock I will build my church; and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it.

the Church of God
Act_20:28  Take heed therefore unto yourselves, and to all the flock, over the which the Holy Ghost hath made you overseers, to feed the church of God

2Co_4:4  Christ, who is the image of God,

johnw47 half baked junk gospel . why is Jesus Christ called 'the image of God" just as man is called image of God? Answer my question.

The early Christians were organized, united& fellowshipped together. (Through holy spirit,the Council or Governing Body in Jerusalem, made up of Peter & others, "The Overseers" oversaw the activities of Christians back then ) Acts 2:41-47 & 15:1-41
Heb10:24-26. Back then no true Christian isolated himself from the apostolic direction & fellowship

Jesus was their Master & Spiritual head matt 23:8-11. Only Jehovah's witnesses operate this apostolic example.

This is different from the factions in Christendom (TREM RCCG DLC & other pastorpreneur biz entreprises led by one man .All of them dey lie lie dey claim "body of Christ" whereas all their doctrines dey contradict each other) .

If them be true church of God make all of them ( TREM, RCCG, Catholic etc) get only one Governing Body & the same doctrines reminiscent of the early Christians in Acts of the Apostles

alchemist13:
Is that verse not saying virtually the same thing?

It's either u did not read those verses or U lack comprehension skills .
Jesus himself stated the valid ground for divorce in matt19:3-9. Why U no see am there?

legendsilver:
But a pastor just celebrated what the bible has condemned in the above verse that you shared

GoodMuyis:
My Opinion on this matter doesn't count but

Jesus Said
Matt 5:32 But I say unto you, That whosoever shall put away his wife, saving for the cause of fornication, causeth her to commit adultery: and whosoever shall marry her that is divorced committeth adultery.

Matt19:3-9 clarified the verse u posted above.
divorce is allowed ,says Jesus Christ

alBHAGDADI:
Read the entire chapter of Mathew 24, you will see Jesus was talking about the period of the great tribulation. It has nothing to do with today's life.

Zephaniah spealsmof those who don't believe in Jesus which makes them unrighteous. Those who do are already righteous according to...

1 Corinthians 5:21
For he hath made him to be sin for us, who knew no sin; that we might be made the righteousness of God in him

.U no know holy scriptures at all !
I refuse to join issues with you. Au revoir

alBHAGDADI:
There is currently a false gospel out there which says once you accept Jesus and you go back to sin, you will lose your salvation. They make is seem like you are the one who saved yourself, hence their talk of you losing your salvation. So many people believe in this garbage gospel which is leading them straight to hell fire. Such people have called God a liar.

The proponents of this counterfeit gospel love to use Judas Iscariot as an example that one can lose his salvation. But was Judas Iscariot ever saved? Let the Bible enlighten us on that. First of all, what is the criteria for having everlasting life? It is the believe in Jesus.


John 3:16
For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.

Remember what Paul and Silas told that prison keeper when he asked what he could do to be saved.

Acts 16:30-31
30 And brought them out, and said, Sirs, what must I do to be saved?
31 And they said, Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and thou shalt be saved, and thy house.

As seen above, the only way to be saved is by believing in Jesus as the saviour. Now, did Judas Iscariot believe in Jesus? No he didn't and wasn't the only disciple of Jesus who didn't believe in him (hope you know Jesus had other disciples asides the 12). Read the below passage to see how Jesus pointed them out including Judas Iscariot.

John 6:53-71
53Then Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Except ye eat the flesh of the Son of man, and drink his blood, ye have no life in you.
54 Whoso eateth my flesh, and drinketh my blood, hath eternal life; and I will raise him up at the last day.
55 For my flesh is meat indeed, and my blood is drink indeed.
56 He that eateth my flesh, and drinketh my blood, dwelleth in me, and I in him.
57 As the living Father hath sent me, and I live by the Father: so he that eateth me, even he shall live by me.
58 This is that bread which came down from heaven: not as your fathers did eat manna, and are dead: he that eateth of this bread shall live for ever.
59 These things said he in the synagogue, as he taught in Capernaum.
60 Many therefore of his disciples, when they had heard this, said, This is an hard saying; who can hear it?
61 When Jesus knew in himself that his disciples murmured at it, he said unto them, Doth this offend you?
62 What and if ye shall see the Son of man ascend up where he was before?
63 It is the spirit that quickeneth; the flesh profiteth nothing: the words that I speak unto you, they are spirit, and they are life.
64 But there are some of you that believe not. For Jesus knew from the beginning who they were that believed not, and who should betray him.
65 And he said, Therefore said I unto you, that no man can come unto me, except it were given unto him of my Father.
66 From that time many of his disciples went back, and walked no more with him.
67 Then said Jesus unto the twelve, Will ye also go away?
68 Then Simon Peter answered him, Lord, to whom shall we go? thou hast the words of eternal life.
69 And we believe and are sure that thou art that Christ, the Son of the living God.
70 Jesus answered them, Have not I chosen you twelve, and one of you is a devil?
71 He spake of Judas Iscariot the son of Simon: for he it was that should betray him, being one of the twelve.

As seen in verse 64, Jesus knew those disciples of his that believed not in him and the one who will betray him. In verse 65, many of such disciples left him and went their way because they didn't believe in him. This made Jesus to ask his special 12 disciples if they were also going to leave him.

John 6:67-71
67 Then said Jesus unto the twelve, Will ye also go away?
68 Then Simon Peter answered him, Lord, to whom shall we go? thou hast the words of eternal life.
69 And we believe and are sure that thou art that Christ, the Son of the living God.
70 Jesus answered them, Have not I chosen you twelve, and one of you is a devil?
71 He spake of Judas Iscariot the son of Simon: for he it was that should betray him, being one of the twelve.

Notice how Peter answered saying that they are staying with Jesus because they believe he has the words of ETERNAL LIFE and that they BELIEVE he is Christ the Son of God. Remember how John 3:16 said those who believe in Jesus have eternal life.

In Peter's mind all the 12 disciples believed in Jesus, but it wasn't so in the eyes of Jesus who knew one of them didn't believe in him. See what he said below.

70 Jesus answered them, Have not I chosen you twelve, and one of you is a devil?
71 He spake of Judas Iscariot the son of Simon: for he it was that should betray him, being one of the twelve.

Clearly, Judas was never ever saved because he didn't believe in Jesus and he also was a devil as described by Jesus himself. So, for someone to sit somewhere and say Judas lost his salvation is the height of deceit.

Now, all those who believe they can lost their salvation are calling God a liar, and this clearly shows that they are not saved. They call God a liar by not believing in his record which he gave of his Son Jesus Christ.

1 John 5:10
He that believeth on the Son of God hath the witness in himself: he that believeth not God hath made him a liar; because he believeth not the record that God gave of his Son.

You might say "oh, what is the record God gave of his Son?"
Just continue to the next verse because His stated what the record is.

1 John 5:11
And this is the record, that God hath given to us eternal life, and this life is in his Son.

One thing you need to know is that the moment you accept Jesus as your saviour and you believe in him, you immediately get the holy spirit who is the witness seen in verse 10 above. Then you immediately get eternal or everlasting life. Even John 3:16 says the same thing.

Now, how are people calling God a liar? They call God a liar by not believing the record that God has given us eternal life. They believe once you sin after accepting Jesus, you immediately lose your salvation which means you have lost the eternal life God gave you for believing in Jesus. If they believe you can lose that eternal life, then was it ever eternal at all? Eternal life means never ending and this is fully achieved upon the resurrection, but you have it now. So if someone tells you you can lose your salvation, that person is saying God lied when he said he gave you eternal life for believing in his son. You have eternal life and you are not condemned because you believe in Jesus.

John 3:18
He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.

John 5:24]
Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that heareth my word, and believeth on him that sent me, hath everlasting life, and shall not come into condemnation; but is passed from death unto life.

All those who believe sin can make you lose your salvation are not trusting in Jesus who has come to save us from our sins. They are trusting in their works of righteousness to save them. They are clearly going to hell fire for rejecting Jesus and trying to save themselves. Works can't save you, it is only the grave of God through faith/believe in Jesus that can save you.

Ephesians 2:8-9
8 For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:
9 Not of works, lest any man should boast.

Christ has taken upon himself our sins and transfered his righteousness to us. That is why we are eternally saved regardless of whether we live holy or not.

1 Corinthians 5:21
For he hath made him to be sin for us, who knew no sin; that we might be made the righteousness of God in him.

The true gospel is so sweet and a good news because it states that even if you do no works of righteous but you believe in Jesus, you still will make heaven because your faith in God has made you righteous.

Romans 4:5
But to him that worketh not, but believeth on him that justifieth the ungodly, his faith is counted for righteousness.

Brothers, if you have believed in the false doctrine that says you can lose your salvation, please now is the time to throw it away. Leave that false church which is selling that counterfeit gospel to you. Find a church which believes in eternal security, but first say the below prayer.

" Father, I believe your son Jesus Christ has come to save me from ny sins because I cannot save my save. I hold on to your word which says those who believe have eternal life. Accept me because I now believe in those words."..Amen.

Matt24;13,Rev3;16 ,Zeph2:2 ,3 .Rev2;26 ,27
invalidates your satanic doctrine

Gullah:
It's that time of the year again, that time of the year when almost everyone begins to reflect on their actions and achievements or failures in the year that is about to end. Many people are already compiling their new year resolutions and plans already no doubt. It's also the time for one of the most interesting and unusual church service that has become an annual end of year ritual among churches all over the world; THE CROSSOVER SERVICE.

The crossover service is perhaps the most attended church service across the country. On the 31st of December every year, millions of people gather in churches so that they can cross over into the new year in the presence of God, They wait expectantly for the clock to strike 12 midnight, for the Man or Woman of God to declare the word of God for the new year and they scream and jump in excitement when the minister says in a solemn voice, "Thus says the Lord, the year 2019 shall be the year of.......". Then the prayers begin, members of the congregation tap into the declaration and present their own personal plans for the new year before God, The minister then proclaims God's blessings for the new year on the people. A usually very elaborate and euphoric service for Christians like me I must say but it's usually just few hours after the service that the questions start ringing in my head,

What exactly is the significance of this service? Are there really special blessings for those who attend that those who don't attend won't receive? How about the curious observation that many people who didn't even bother about God or attend a church service throughout the year suddenly pop into the church on that night to claim God's promises and blessings for the new year? Does God's presence really go into the new year with people as they attend and leave those services? How about the Olive oils, bottled water, handkerchiefs or aprons, stickers with the word for the year printed on them and other " holy items" attendees usually come home with? Are they really effective in helping those who possess them in any way in the new year?

I have my thoughts about all that but since I am not hundred percent sure I am right about it, I'd rather prefer to put it out here and know your opinions on this topic. Does this service have any special or unique importance for Christians?

Una eyes done dey open.
It's one of the lucrative brands of. pastorpreneurs. them no dey joke with this feeding bottle. Nothing scriptural about it

thesolutions:
Colossians 2
15 And having spoiled principalities and powers, he made a shew of them openly, triumphing over them in it.

16 Let no man therefore judge you in meat, or in drink, or in respect of an holyday, or of the new moon, or of the sabbath days:

..thou shalt not celebrate Christmas , birthday & other pagan feasts days,seasons etc
Gal 4;9-11

alBHAGDADI:
5. Who told you it was Constantine that told Christians to celebrate Jesus birthday? Stop making false claims.

The Bible has a lot to say about Christmas. Read Luke 2 to see how angels celebrated and shepherds rejoiced at the news of his birth. It is the same celebration we are imitating.

na Jesus Christ & him disciples say make u dey 'esteem' Christmas that pagan feasts wey them no approve?

Luke chapter 2 , Angels did not celebrate Christmas nor the anniversary of Jesus birthday.
Stop deceiving yourself.

Pharaoh & Herod were pagans
Christmas/birthdays were strictly for pagans.

As Christ wey perfect no do am,
na pagan emperor go come approve for Christians wetin Christ no agree?
. U no copy Jesus your Master, na the man wey be your Master enemy go dictate how u go serve your Master?
Oturugbeke!!!!

"But now that you know God or rather are known by God how is it you are turning back to those weak and miserable principles? Do you wish to be enslaved by them all over again?
You are observing special days and seasons and months and years.!
I fear for you that somehow I have wasted my efforts on you'" Galatians 4:9-11.

The Bible says "now that you know God" komot your hands from birthdays & other pagan festive celebrations.


* Christmas began many centuries after Christ & his disciples were no more.

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MadamExcellency:
Before you reply my comment, answer this question first. Are you born again? Have you receive the Lord Jesus Christ as your Lord and personal saviour?

One thing you Antichrists forgot is that Jesus Christ and Holy Spirit we received and preach is written in the table of our heart and conscience.

We have no object of worship, no image, no sentimental attachments to any emblem in heaven or on earth hence your references to paganism is ridiculous and a sign of self defeat and insecurity. Give it up and stop being a hypocrite.

Paganism has an object of worship, a temple and a deity. Stop arrogating life to dead gods.

Jesus Christ is the same yesterday, today and forever.

U no know shishi about Jesus Christ ,neither is he your Lord & personal saviour.
the holy spirit of Jesus Christ & his born again disciples shunned Christmas ,that pagan feasts wey U dey love pass Jesus himself just like your fellow hypocrites & anti Christ dey do.

U refused to copy Jesus Christ because u no know am.
Stop deceiving yourself

MadamExcellency:
I am sure you are not even filled with the Holy Spirit hence too much delusions.

The Holy Spirit of Jesus Christ that I received don't condone slightest sin in me hence I possess a living conscience.

John 16:13
[13]Howbeit when he, the Spirit of truth, is come, he will guide you into all truth: for he shall not speak of himself; but whatsoever he shall hear, that shall he speak: and he will shew you things to come


Get behind me, who the hell are you to judge me? Am I your servant?

Don't quote me again please. You are a hypocrite, not after holiness, love, peace and purity of heart (the pure in heart shall see God) but fixated on a day created by God, I choose to be happy.

Your post is awash with sentiments.

God did not create pagan practice
of Christmas celebrations wey U carry for head like turban.

" The holy spirit of Jesus Christ," him disciples & of Godly men like Abraham David Moses no approve birthday/Christmas.

Holy spirit no tell Jesus Christ to do Christmas , na pagan emperor na him "holy spirit" come give the revelation... Oturugbeke !!!!!

"Purity of heart " ,holiness & spirit of truth have no fellowship with pagan feasts disguised as Christianity