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Christianity EtcRe: Can Pentecostal Churches Make Offerings Optional Like Jehovah's Witnesses? by Janosky: 10:27am On Jan 28, 2019
TATIME:
You're FREE to decide on what to do Sir!
I have SEEN much more than what the OP posted that is why i presented what i believe but if you disagree with his post,you can continue saying what you believe.
God bless you! wink wink wink
Hairyrapunzel is 'Deadlytruth' , his viral load of prejudice ,hate & senseless is unequalled.
That's the Gubernatorial Candidate of Yaba/Uselu kolo State.
Christianity EtcRe: Jehovah Witnesses, Is This True? by Janosky: 10:42pm On Jan 27, 2019
Martinez19:
JW apologist trying to downplay the harms of the jw cult so as not to make it look bad. Not only do I know that the jw cult does such, I have also read and met victims. In fact, I belong to a WhatsApp group containing such people. Some are even afraid to opening up and that should tell you much about the jw cult. People like you who downplay the damages of world evils rather than acknowledge and speak against them disgust me. Fvck off. angry
Trash & hogwash....
Na your way since 19gbidigbidi.

Every stable family has it's set of values & laid down rules,gross violations attracts minor or severe sanctions.
Capital punishment, in most cases, is with in the Lawful jurisdiction of
Government & Society who tows that path.
Martinez19 knows that no Government gives lawbreakers a pat on the back& U never labelled any Government a cult .
But because JWs instill discipline & Order within it's fold, you label them a cult.
Your viral load of prejudice is unprecedented.
U no get sense.
Christianity EtcRe: Would You Have Fallen Down And Worshipped A Baby God? Photo. by Janosky: 9:25pm On Jan 27, 2019
jesusjnr:
Ain't it already obvious from their furious reactions to the thread title "God is like a little child", that they wouldn't have, because they would have been ashamed of their God not just being like a baby, but actually being a baby of a few days old, as they only have an image of God which is in heaven that is big, big and big again, and all powerful, and glorious and majestic etc. And also that which was on earth as an adult in Jesus who was great and mighty both in Word and in Works.

But certainly not a few days old baby, wrapped in swaddling clothes, lying in a manger, and crying "yia, yia", and sucking breast milk, and need I go on to with the continuation of my intentional irritation and deliberate provocation of such ones from my previous thread, titled "God is like a little child"?

But thank God not all His worshippers are as such ones, for there are yet those adults that would not be ashamed of their God being a baby of only a few days old as it was said:

Matthew 2:1, 11 (KJV)

Now when Jesus was born in Bethlehem of Judaea in the days of Herod the king, behold, there came wise men from the east to Jerusalem,
And when they were come into the house, they saw the young child with Mary his mother, and fell down, and worshipped him: and when they had opened their treasures, they presented unto him gifts; gold, and frankincense, and myrrh.


Now I had to emboldened the fact that they were not just men but "wisdom is justified of her children" men who came all the way from the far east to worship their baby God, for they knew better that one should not be ashamed of his own God even when He's is yet a baby, for it didn't make Him any less of the God that He was, hence their falling down and worship their baby God once they saw Him.

Need I say what I would have also done same had I been there?

Because for me to dare bring up a thread that said that God is like a little child, I certainly knew better as the wise men from the east and these instances from that thread titled "God is like a little child" proves exactly my point:




And you know what? We are not alone in that respect for heaven is also with us as was depicted by the reaction of heavenly host to the birth of the baby God:

Luke 2:8-14 (KJV)

And there were in the same country shepherds abiding in the field, keeping watch over their flock by night.
And, lo, the angel of the Lord came upon them, and the glory of the Lord shone round about them: and they were sore afraid.
And the angel said unto them, Fear not: for, behold, I bring you good tidings of great joy, which shall be to all people.
For unto you is born this day in the city of David a Saviour, which is Christ the Lord.
And this shall be a sign unto you; Ye shall find the babe wrapped in swaddling clothes, lying in a manger.
And suddenly there was with the angel a multitude of the heavenly host praising God, and saying,
Glory to God in the highest, and on earth peace, good will toward men.


So God is not just like a little child but also was once a little child when He humbled Himself and came to us humans in the human form, for Jesus was first a baby before He grew to become the adult that we all love to worship and adore.

So again I ask the question, would you have fallen down and worshipped a baby God?
Their baby god was born & breastfed by a woman ( mother of god) & kept in a manger.
Their fake doctrine removed their sense.

Christianity EtcRe: Can Pentecostal Churches Make Offerings Optional Like Jehovah's Witnesses? by Janosky: 2:15pm On Jan 27, 2019
Deadlytruth:
This is what Mark 13:10 says:

 But before the end comes, the gospel must be preached to all peoples.
It doesn't mention house to house. You are a fraud!

Matt 10:14 is a part of the instruction Jesus was giving on how to find a house in which to get accommodated and not a house to preach in. Read from the previous verses for the context in which that verse speaks. Stop picking verses in isolation.

Acts 5:42 is what I already trashed in my previous comment where I explained that such was in Jerusalem where the harvest had become few and that even before then the angel had specifically commanded them to go to the temple to preach. Why bring it up again without having countered my commentary on it with a superior explanation?

As for Acts 20:20...As usual you picked it in isolation hence your failure to see the context. Go back to verse 17 of that chapter and there you'll see that Paul was addressing only the church elders of the Church in Ephesus with what he said in verse 20. Church elders could not have been unbelievers whom he was evangelizing afresh. So he could afford to visit them at home. Moreover, recall that in those times church services were conducted in the houses of members as the temples in gentile lands would forbid such. So the visit to houses was clearly for the conducting of Church services in the homes of elders and never during evangelism targeted at unbelievers.

In John 4:1-42, the conversion of the Samaritan Woman happened by the Well of Jacob where Jesus decided to rest during a journey. Are you now saying that Joseph's well was located in the Samaritan Woman's house? If so then why does verses 7 and 15 record that the woman came all the way to the well from her house? See how you have been lying and shamelessly misquoting the scriptures?

For the story of the Ethiopian Eunuch as recorded in Acts 8:26 referenced by you, everything started and ended on the road of the journey. Philip didn't follow him to his house. Here is how the encounter started and ended as recorded:

36-37. As they traveled down the road, they came to a place where there was some water, and the official said, *Here is some water. What is to keep me from being baptized?*

38. The official ordered the carriage to stop, and both Philip and the official went down into the water, and Philip baptized him.

39. When they came up out of the water, the Spirit of the Lord took Philip away. The official did not see him again, but continued on his way, full of joy.

So how was that encounter a house to house preaching?

The 1 Corinthians 15:58 you referenced says as follows:

So then, my dear friends, stand firm and steady. Keep busy always in your work for the Lord, since you know that nothing you do in the Lord's service is ever useless.
Of what relevance is it to the issue of propriety of house to house preaching under contention? Do you really read the verses you quote?

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Offspring of viper !!!!
' hairyrapunzel masquerades as 'deadlytruth'
Lying Pharisee always disdain the expressed command of Jesus Christ.
Mtschewwww.
Christianity EtcRe: Is There Any Xtian Denomination That Can Still Be Linked Back To D Early Church? by Janosky: 1:57pm On Jan 27, 2019
jw.org , that's the closest to first century Christian way of life.
Christianity EtcRe: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by Janosky: 1:51pm On Jan 27, 2019
Martinez19:
keep up the good work. I heard and I can confirm that you are shedding light on the irrationality of the JW cult. Beware of TATIME, I don't know what's wrong with him grin and his is incorrigible. He's weird. grin
What is this one saying?
Your statement shows that you are on the same page & level as the man u gave a pat on the back.
Personal Assistant to the Gubernatorial Candidate of Yaba/Uselu kolo State.

Ekushe oooo . Lol
Christianity EtcRe: Pastor's Advice To A Wife Whose Husband Defiled 3 Of Their Kids Shocks Nigerians by Janosky: 1:43pm On Jan 27, 2019
Celebrityblog:
A Nigerian Pastor Ayepolabo has incurred the anger of Nigerians. The pastor shocked Nigerians with his response and advice to a very ugly situation.

TV personality and sex educator, Lolo Cynthia shared a shocking video on social media and Instagram and Twitter users are enraged about its content.

The video is centered on a discussion about what should be done after a father sexually molested his 3 children.

During a show on Dove TV – the official channel of The Redeemed Christian Church of God – the show host had asked a counselor, Pastor Ayepolabo what ought to be done when a father rapes his children aged 5, 6, and 12.

His advice to the woman her husband defiled their children has got Nigerians talking.

A father defiled 3 of his children aged 5 ,6 and 12.

Listen to the advice shared on a live Christian show on DOVE TV!

The Pastor advised the woman:

"what I advise is that, that woman should go to her pastor, somebody who can help her to call the attention of the man to what he has done and they will prayerfully deliver the man, that's what is needful here."

The pastor was asked if the woman should leave the marriage because of the scandalous ask.

He said:

"What If she moves and he commits Suicide?"

A female caller on the live Christian show said the woman should remain in the house. The caller said:

"what has happened has happened, if she now leaves that house, by that time the secret will be Leaked, it is better she prays."

Both the Pastor and the caller's advice angered Nigerians that reacted.

Watch the shocking videos here and see reactions from angry Nigerians.

What do you think about this situation?

SOURCE
The husband has committed very grave iniquity, because God forbids incest & any form of sexual activity outside the bond of marriage.
The wife is within her God given rights to sue for divorce.
That man is very sick & perverted. He needs both professional & spiritual help.

Shikena.
Christianity EtcRe: "How Can One Witness To A Jehovah's Witness?" by Janosky: 12:55pm On Jan 27, 2019
johnw47:
duh, know nothing lying pharisee jano/onej

God the Word became flesh, john 1:14, that flesh died,

His Spirit which is God, john 1:1 and john 4:14, of course did not die

Jesus said He would raise His body, john 2:19, and He-God did raise His body, john 10:17-18, acts 3:15

^^^ Jesus raised His body, God raised Jesus body, showing yet again that Jesus is God:

joh 1:1 in the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God

Joh 1:14  And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth.


Joh_4:24  God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth.

Joh_2:19  Jesus answered and said unto them, Destroy this temple, and in three days I will raise it up.

Joh 10:17  Therefore doth my Father love me, because I lay down my life, that I might take it again. 
Joh 10:18  No man taketh it from me, but I lay it down of myself. I have power to lay it down, and I have power to take it again. This commandment have I received of my Father.
 
Act 3:15  And killed the Prince of life, whom God hath raised from the dead; whereof we are witnesses.
"He-God did raised his body... Jesus raised his body, God raised Jesus body , showing yet again that Jesus is God"

Your triune gods died, that's not the only true God, Jehovah who is immortal (John17:3.1tim1:17,Ps90:2).
Of a truth, u are a coded pagan & Pharisee wey dey form Christian.

johnw lying Pharisee has added a fresh dimension to his cocktail of lies.

U no get sense ,even the atom of sense u no get.
When Yahweh dey give all man sense, u & your fellow Pharisees refused it. Lol
Christianity EtcRe: Can Pentecostal Churches Make Offerings Optional Like Jehovah's Witnesses? by Janosky: 1:23am On Jan 27, 2019
Deadlytruth:
Heretic appologetics of an exposed Antichrist. If you were not a coconut head you would have realized that even your satanic organization advocates 100% scrptural basis for the validity of belief. But now that you have been bursted with scrptures, you have begun to advocate "sense". Where did your organization put human sense to when it was busy hammering on scrptural evidence as basis for validity?
Preaching is not an intimate discussion between two persons hence it is not about effective communication at all. It is more of an avenue to convince people not with words but with a demonstration of the power of God.
Hear what Paul says in 1 Corinthians 4:19-20

19. If the Lord is willing, however, I will come to you soon, and then I will find out for myself the power which these proud people have, and not just what they say.

20. For the Kingdom of God is not a matter of words but of power.

You can see from above that there were people who were busy disturbing the Corinthians with your organization's kind of "effective communication" but Paul admonished the Corinthians against such communication however effective and rather told them that the Kingdom of God is about power.
Moses was not an effective communicator but God chose him because the task before him had to do with the demonstration of God's power towards convincing King Pharaoh.
So your doctrine of effective communication has no place in the scriptures. Sorry!
. If it were about words, then every other religion has convincing stories and logic too. But none has the power of God as given to genuine Christians to heal and cast demons out. Before Jesus rose Lazarus from the dead, He had communicated and communicated yet the Pharisees never accepted his teachings because they had their own quite strong teachings too. But Lazarus' ressurrection broke their grip to their teachings. That is where the power of God comes and it must be displayed in the public and never in private houses. But the satanic organization which has not the Holy Ghost power covers up by going from house to house. If house to house is the most effective way, then why did Jesus never use it?
Meanwhile you have not answered the question as to why you choose one method and leave the other whereas the Apostles supposedly used the two going by your opinion.
Lying Pharisee dey form Christian, continue your heresy against the truth of God's word & Jesus command to preach from house to house (Mk13:10. Matt10:14, Acts5:42. 20:20).

Lying Pharisee, how did Jesus preach to the Samaritan woman & converted her? John 4:1-42

How did Philip preach to the Ethiopian man & converted him? Acts 8:26-36.

keep posting all the fairy tale your gods of men have rubber stamped on your brain & removed your sense.
JWs are moving ever forward because our " labour is not in vain in connection with the lord."
1cor15:58
Christianity EtcRe: Can Pentecostal Churches Make Offerings Optional Like Jehovah's Witnesses? by Janosky: 10:09pm On Jan 26, 2019
Deadlytruth:
JW publications might have no price tag just like the publications of every other Christian groups don't. But while all the other Christian groups share their publications freely to the public and walk away without ever asking any member of the public to replenish their purses as a way of encouraging or supporting God's work; the JWs would first introduce the magazine, and then proceed to ask the listener to encourage the organization with financial contributions ostensibly for the encouragement of the organization in propagating God's word.
Now, which between these two is more tantamount to giving out their publications at a charge? Be honest!

If making contributions is the house holder's discretion as you yourself acknowledge, then why does your organization demand for it and even when the person hesitates, you squeeze it out of him by saying 'It doesn't matter however little you can afford"? If he could afford a little, do you think he would have hesitated in the first instance? And after cajoling him with how your organization spends money and therefore deserves assistance, you collect such from him and you term it free will donation?
His will becomes caged at that moment you press him further by saying "Our organization needs to be encouraged...." No normal human being would out of his genuine free will contribute to an organization whose mission and belief structure he is yet to fully understand let alone agree with.
If we agree that some Pentecostal Churches' pastors methods of "encouraging" their members (who are even believers) are tantamount to cajoling them (thus ssuppressing and even eliminating their free will) regardless of the fact that they don't actually use physical force to get them to make these offerings, why then should we expnerate JWs who use the same cajoling methods on even unbelievers in the streets? These Pentecostal pastors equally tell their members that the Church needs to be built and evangelistic missions overseas need to be encouraged. So how exactly are JWs more innocent than them for asking for donations towards encouraging the organization's mission?
Even a roadside beggar only stretches forth his hands and prays. He never picks on persons specifically and tells them "Please however small you can afford to spare me, it doesn't matter". He banks on the absolute free will of his potential givers. So even beggars are more deserving of honour that you people.

Your referencing of Acts 5:42 is still after your usual fashion of picking a verse and trying to interprete it in isolation of the rest of the scriptures.
If you read the entire chapter you would realize that the Apostles had been arrested from the public arena where they were preaching, and then jailed. An angel of the Lord released them and asked them to go back to the temple and preach from there. They only went to the homes of those who had already believed, hence they preached and taught. Teaching is meant for members to grow spiritually while preaching is meant to win unbelievers. But you people go to unbelievers houses to teach them. That is where you are wrong. Secondly, given the spread of the news of the death and actual resurrection of Jesus, a lot of Jews had become potential and actual believers hence the harvest was no longer huge within Jerusalem where it all happened thus the Apostles could afford house to house movement in there. But in gentile lands where unbelievers abounded with some never having heard the gospel, house to house would make a meaningless impact. But your organization regards non members as spiritual gentles among whom the harvest is supposedly bountifully ripe yet you use house to house approach on them. That contradicts even commonsense.
Let us even assume, without conceding that the Apostles used house to house in gentile lands in addition to the mass public approach. Then the question becomes; why then does your organization use only house to house method as against the Apostles who used both? Why do you people choose one and leave the other, yet you boast of following the Bible completely and correctly?
Deadlytruth:
We started preaching and teaching before your organization was ever conceived. In fact your organization is actually a breakaway from another group contrary to the impression you try to create that it was formed as an original group. Someone already explained it into details here and I didn't see you proving him wrong.
Our preaching is targeted at those who have never heard the gospel hence our focus is on territories yet to be reached due to ban on Christian evangelism by their government. We are not like you who fear to thread such places but rush there after others have opened the place up and then start telling them that those who opened up the place were apostates. When we break those barriers we don't see ourselves to have done anything hence we don't boast about it because we know our salvation is by God's grace and never on account of the works we do. When the Orthodox Church missionaries risked their lives against territorial powers to come to Africa and established schools and other welfarist programmes, your satanic and manipulative organization was nowhere to be found. But once Africa became open and free, you suddenly appeared to start preaching your heresy and telling people that those who first came to liberate them at their own risks and sacrifice were apostates. Shame onto you!
Fairy tale of a bigot.
"Jesus Christ is against house to house preaching".
If u had sense u should have known that one on one, face to face interaction is still the most effective means of human communication.
Lying Pharisee dey form Christian
More shame on you.
Christianity EtcRe: "How Can One Witness To A Jehovah's Witness?" by Janosky: 3:43pm On Jan 26, 2019
johnw47:
If God hadn't become man and died for the sins of the world, then none would be save



Jehovah is Saviour:
Hos_13:4  Yet I am the LORD thy God from the land of Egypt, and thou shalt know no god but me: for there is no saviour beside me.

Jesus is Saviour:
Act 4:12  Neither is there salvation in any other: for there is none other name under heaven given among men, whereby we must be saved.

^^^ showing that Jehovah-Jesus is God:
Joh 1:1  In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
U still carried your foolishness come here. Lol

* My God Jehovah (YAHWEH) is immortal & can never die.(1tim1:17. Ps83:18. 90:2).
But the false gods of Johnw lying Pharisee died . Your triune gods is a fake & powerless one.

. * The earth is Jehovah's footstool & heaven is His throne ( Isa66:1, Psalms 115:16), the name of Jesus can only save sinful men on earth,not in heaven.
Jehovah sent Jesus to save men who believe in his son Jesus Christ. John 3:16,36.
foolish johnw lying Pharisee, Jesus the messenger is not Jehovah who sent him (John 7:16).

* U agreed that the Word is not the Father whom Jesus called " the only true God" ( John17:3), therefore, Jesus is not the God whom his Father is.
"the Word is with the God" Almighty, Jehovah, his Father & God (John 20:17,30,31).

johnw junior is with his Father, Johnw47 & Johnw junior is Johnw47, that's how senseless you have become.
Christianity EtcRe: "How Can One Witness To A Jehovah's Witness?" by Janosky: 2:33pm On Jan 26, 2019
ochibuogwu5:
God himself confirmed Jesus Christ his Son as GOD thus
"And concerning the angels He says,

“Who makes His angels winds,
And His ministering servants flames of fire [to do His bidding].”

8 But about the Son [the Father says to Him],

“Your throne, *O GOD*, is forever and ever,
And the scepter of [absolute] righteousness is the scepter of His kingdom" {Hebrews 1:7-8 AMP}

It is quite unfortunate that Jehovah-witness members have been *held spell-bound* from their *watch-tower leaders* who "rewrote the whole Holy Bible and gave them ERROR in the name of bible"
In John 1:1; their bible said "the word was god instead of GOD"
in John 8:58; Jesus said before Abraham I AM{that is the ORIGINAL NAME OF GOD as he revealed to Moses in Exodus 3:14 "I AM WHO AM"} but their own version said "before Abraham I have been" and so many other errors.
I pray for the sincere souls among them that the Holy Spirit will release his GRACE to deliver them from the TWIST OF DARKNESS by the devil who is using WATCH TOWER GROUP in Jesus name. Amen.
Dear, your ignorance seems like bliss to you. Your prayer is useless, matter of fact.

U no even know the holy scriptures but believe a fraud.

*Exodus 3:14 says "I will cause to be what /who I will cause to be " (or I will be what/ who I will be"wink.
" I am what I am" is a corrupt invention to make it seem as if John 8:58 and Exodus 3:14 is the same.

"I am" in Greek means " I exist" or "I have been ", that's not what Exodus 3:14 is saying.

*Heb1:7,8 is a quote of Ps45:6,7. Psalms 45 referred to King David/ king Solomon (1chr28:5. 29:23) & later to Jesus Christ ( Luk1:31-33).
At anytime, did Jews. or Israelites read psalms 45:6,7& believed that king David or Solomon is God?
The answer is no.

"God is your throne forever" (in 1chr28:5. 29:23) is the correct expression. That is what the Jews believed in Psalms 45:6,7 & Heb1:7,8.

"Thy throne, O God" is fake and a man made corruption of scriptures
to support false doctrine.

* In John 1:1, u agree that the Word is not the Father. Because Jesus called the Father "the only true God" (John 17:3)& "One God,the Father " ( 1cor8:6), Jesus is not the only true God.
Or Jesus is not the God whom the Father is.
Isaiah 40:25 "To whom will you compare me? Or who is my equal? says the Holy One" Jehovah.
Jehovah ,the Most High God has no equal. (but Jesus has "thy fellows", his peers/mates ,Heb1:9) Jesus is NOT equal to Jehovah God. (Psalms 83:18. John 14:28) . Jesus is not God.
John 20:17,30,31.
Christianity EtcRe: Can Pentecostal Churches Make Offerings Optional Like Jehovah's Witnesses? by Janosky: 11:32am On Jan 26, 2019
Hairyrapunzel:
You and your people want to lie to unsuspecting people. Let's see what your organization says about giving to their organization.


Acts 20:35

35 In everything I did, I showed you that by this kind of hard work we must help the weak, remembering the words the Lord Jesus himself said: ‘It is more blessed to give than to receive.’ ”


Watchtower organization has become the weak all of a sudden. Lol

Your leaders even go as far as saying that your happiness will increase when you give Your Jehovah the gift he gave you.Lol.

Prov3:9-10
9 Honor the LORD with your wealth, with the firstfruits of all your crops;10 then your barns will be filled to overflowing, and your vats will brim over with new
wine.

Your leaders had to even list the kind of wealth they expect. Whereas the verse said honour the lord with your wealth, watchtower decided to translate the verse as give jehovah all your wealth and went ahead to list the kind of wealth even though jehovah did not list the kind of wealth o.


We are still looking for the bible verse that says that jehovah will give you happiness in return for the wealth watchtower listed that you gave to him.


Luke 12:15 ESV
And he said to them, “Take care, and be on your guard against all covetousness, for one's life does not consist in the abundance of his possessions.”


Matthew 6:19-21
“Do not lay up for yourselves treasures on earth, where moth and rust destroy and where thieves break in and steal, but lay up for yourselves treasures in heaven, where neither moth nor rust destroys and where thieves do not break in and steal. For where your treasure is, there your heart will be also.

Luke 12:33-34
Sell your possessions, and give to the needy. Provide yourselves with moneybags that do not grow old, with a treasure in the heavens that does not fail, where no thief approaches and no moth destroys. For where your treasure is, there will your heart be also.


1 Timothy 6: 9- 10
But those who desire to be rich fall into temptation, into a snare, into many senseless and harmful desires that plunge people into ruin and destruction. For the love of money is a root of all kinds of evils. It is through this craving that some have wandered away from the faith and pierced themselves with many pangs.



So the same possessions that Jesus Christ said people should sell and give to the needy is the same one watchtower organization wants. Bible warns us about money and being rich now watchtower organization says people should give these money and their riches to their publishing company.

AT THE END OF THE DAY EVERY RELIGION HAS A WAY OF TAXING IT'S MEMBERS.



1 cor 16:1-3
1 Now about the collection for the Lord’s people: Do what I told the Galatian churches to do. 2 On the first day of every week, each one of you should set aside a sum of money in keeping with your income, saving it up, so that when I come no collections will have to be made. 3 Then, when I arrive, I will give letters of introduction to the men you approve and send them with your gift to Jerusalem.

So last last money doesn't fall from the sky for any religion on earth. Members contribute to the development and growth of their religion.
Paul even told them how and where to make these contributions. He also told them for what purpose.

Your religion uses emotional manipulation to coerce their members into donating. Stop accusing others of the same thing.
Acts 20:35 there is more happiness in giving than there is in receiving ".
This lying Pharisee hairy nonsense says its "emotional blackmail" .

Seems like your sense took flight from you tay tay.
Gubernatorial candidate of Yaba/Uselu kolo State......
Christianity EtcRe: Can Pentecostal Churches Make Offerings Optional Like Jehovah's Witnesses? by Janosky: 12:04am On Jan 26, 2019
Deadlytruth:
The first bolded is never the replica of "voluntary" donations to Watchtower publications. It is a total deviation from the Watchtower's approach.
Jesus did not direct them to solicit for accommodation and food from any house they entered. He only asked them to just greet, then wait for the occupants of that house to make the offer spontaneously entirely out of their own volition. But in clear violation of this, your members cleverly solicit for assistance by telling their listeners how their society uses money to finance those magazines hence deserving of assistance from the world. Can't you see the difference still? Why not talk to people and then simply walk away? If your message is really impactful they will on their own discretion spontaneously call you back and offer you assistance. It is this spontaneity that Jesus implied. He never asked the disciples to make the demand first lest they look like beggers in the eyes of the world. Or do you now want to deny again here that you actually solicit financial assistance after introducing your magazines to whoever cares to listen?

In Jesus' days, He and His disciples never directly or indirectly asked for financial assistance from non members of their group.

For second bolded; it is clear you lack synthesis. Does any normal person find it sensible to keep relocating from house to house to enjoy accommodation in different houses on getting to a new town? So why should Jesus even find it necessary to advise them against doing so if that is the meaning of that verse as you would have us believe?
Or you think it is easy to find a person willing to accommodate them let alone finding many more to enable them relocate everyday? The fact that Jesus asked them to eat and drink whatever they are offered is a clear indication that the command against house to house movement had to do with with preaching mode and not accommodation seeking mode. If they were to preach from house to house, then would it really be possible for them to eat/drink whatever they are offered in every house they enter as Jesus directed?
JW magazines /publications are with out charge.
I know say u fit twist am as u want.

To make contribution or not ,it's
the house holder's decision & discretion

The JW worldwide preaching & Bible teaching/ study program is absolutely free of charge .


"And remain in the same house ,eating and drinking what they provide, for the labourer deserves his wages. Do not go from house to house"Luke 10:7
https://biblehub.com/luke/10-7.htm

"Similar instructions were given in the case of the sending out the twelve as missionaries.
One house & family were to be selected as the center of their work"
One house was their base to reach every one from house to house.

"Whoever refuses to receive you or even listen to your Messages, as you leave that house or town" Matt10:14.

"Day after day... from house to house they never stopped teaching & proclaiming the good news"
Acts 5:42.
Lying Pharisee, go look for another lie u go blow for here.
Christianity EtcRe: Can Pentecostal Churches Make Offerings Optional Like Jehovah's Witnesses? by Janosky: 3:19pm On Jan 25, 2019
Deadlytruth:
Here is the original text of your letter of "Declaration of facts".
Deadlytruth:
Here is another section of the letter your organization sent to the Nazi Government in declaration of support for Hitler's antagonism the the Jews, The US and Britain.
Hogwash & Trash of a bigot. No truth in your post.
The full content of that Wikipedia post shows that u peddling falsehood. I know the facts.
Christianity EtcRe: Can Pentecostal Churches Make Offerings Optional Like Jehovah's Witnesses? by Janosky:
Deadlytruth:
See liars now denying their own doctrines and practices in real life because the lack of biblical basis of such are being exposed. Don't you people go out in the streets to pester the assumed apostates to donate to your mission in the form of monetary appreciation for your magazines however small the amount they could afford? You think such is a free will donation? I am speaking from experience. Each time I stopped to listen to JWs in the streets in the past, after speaking the next thing is to tell me why I just have to donate to the ministry for the fact that those printing the magazines are spending money to get it done. Why ask me to donate to your magazines when I am yet to even settle down to read it let alone agree with the doctrine being propagated by it? You may deny this to save face here but that doesn't change the truth about what you people are busy doing in the streets. Oturugbeke my nyash!
You exactly are the pharisiac order of today's Christianity! As Jesus said of you people......"Always wanting to appear righteous in the eyes of men, loving to be respected in public hence always putting up a show of outward religiousity to seek the praises of men...."

This is what Matthew 10:3-15 says:

8. Heal the sick, bring the dead back to life, heal those who suffer from dreaded skin diseases, and drive out demons. You have received without paying, so give without being paid.

9. Do not carry any gold, silver, or copper money in your pockets;

10. do not carry a beggar's bag for the trip or an extra shirt or shoes or a walking stick. Workers should be given what they need.

11. When you come to a town or village, go in and look for someone who is willing to welcome you, and stay with him until you leave that place.

12. When you go into a house, say, 'Peace be with you.'

13. If the people in that house welcome you, let your greeting of peace remain; but if they do not welcome you, then take back your greeting.

14. And if some home or town will not welcome you or listen to you, then leave that place and shake the dust off your feet.

The first bolded clearly says that donations must never be accepted from the public during evangelism. But your Pharisiac organization never evangelizes without asking people for donations towards your magazines.
The second bolded shows you people never read the Bible wholly but pick verses and try to explain them in isolation of the rest. Verses 11 and 12 are not telling you to preach from house to house. Rather they are about how you'll find somewhere to be accommodated in the new town before going out to do the evangelism in public places. If verse 11 means house to house preaching as your dubious organization would have us believe, then you would only visit one house in every town since the concluding line of that verse also commands that you remain in that very first house you entered till you leave the town. However, that concluding line only makes sense when looked at from the perspective of accommodation for the evangelist. And that explains why verse 9 commands that they don't take money or clothes along since whoever accommodates them would definitely provide them with food and clothing. Verses 12 and 13 are specific directives on exactly how the evangelist is to find the home willing to accommodate him hence the use of "if they welcome you (i.e. if they allow you put up with them)"

5. Whenever you go into a house, first say, 'Peace be with this house.'

6. If someone who is peace-loving lives there, let your greeting of peace remain on that person; if not, take back your greeting of peace.

7. Stay in that same house, eating and drinking whatever they offer you, for workers should be given their pay. Don't move around from one house to another.

8. Whenever you go into a town and are made welcome, eat what is set before you,

9. heal the sick in that town, and say to the people there, 'The Kingdom of God has come near you.'
Deadly falsehood lying Pharisee misquoting scriptures,
the house owners accommodation & feeding "donated voluntarily to them (disciples)" on their preaching assignments ,is the replica of today's voluntary donations for Watchtower publications.

In Jesus day nobody was forced to welcome any disciple into his home. Rather the house owner volunteers his resources (feeding & accommodation) for the success of the preaching assignment .

Jesus meant that his disciples should use one house ("not moving from house to house"wink accommodation base, to preach to everyone in that town they visited.

Jesus taught people free of charge, his disciples did it too, JWs are doing the same.
Lying Pharisee, u are neither forced nor intimidated /pressured to donate anything or even accept any JW publication.

Where the people wey u & your well choreographed TV drama crew done heal?
U know how much your popular mammon loving Televangelists fleece gullible members in the name of miracle.
Lying, bigoted clown twisting God's word !
Christianity EtcRe: "How Can One Witness To A Jehovah's Witness?" by Janosky: 12:55pm On Jan 25, 2019
OLAADEGBU:
Answering JW's



If you contend that John 1:1 should be translated as "The Word was a god," and not "The Word was God." And if you are arguing that since theos (the Greek word for God) is preceded by the definite article (the) when it first appears in the verse, and the second time it appears it is not preceded by the definite article, then will be justified for translating the last part of John 1:1 "the Word was a god," because God appears without the definite article.  And you claim that John 1:1 does not say anything about Jesus' identity (i.e,  that He is God), but refers to a quality about Him.  There are, however, no reputable authorities or translations that support your JW translation of this verse.  In fact, your NWT has caused considerable outrage among Greek scholars
We are not surprised that the JW's don't even play by their own rules, it is inconsistently applied throughout your NWT.  Theos appears 6 times without the definite article in the first 18 verses of John's gospel (1,6,12,13 and twice in 18).  Yet, in the NWT, it is rendered God (referring to Jehovah), not a god, in each instance except for the last clause of 1:1, when it refers to Jesus! Do you see your inconsistencies? cheesy
* It is senseless & illogical to say or believe that two distinct spirits "The Word with the God" is one God. More so, Jesus disagreed with that fraud & his teaching was built on the core Jewish precepts of one God the Father (Yahweh ,Isa64:8. Deut6:4.Mk12:29. John 17:3. 1Cor8:4-6).His followers towed that line. Your fake John 1:1 contravene it .


* Your Trinity loving KJV translated Greek 'theos" God 'with out definite article in "John's gospel ( 1b,6,12,13 & twice in v18) just like NWT.

* It is proper to insert indefinite article 'a', KJV did it just as NWT nau
Christianity EtcRe: "How Can One Witness To A Jehovah's Witness?" by Janosky: 11:47am On Jan 25, 2019
Janosky:
@OLAADEGBU

U dey post gabage dey deceive yourself & people wey no know their right from their left.

* "In a beginning was the Word, and the Word was with the God, and a god was the Word'
Emphatic Diaglott (1864)
Benjamin Wilson.

*NWT, u know that one..

Assignment for u.. .
Go see this Bibles & coman tell us what u found in John 1:1..

* The New Testament In Greek & English ( 1822)
A .Kneeland.

. *The New Testament in an Improved Version (1808)
Thomas Belsham

*The New Testament of Our Lord& Saviour Jesus Anointed (1958),
J.L. Tomanec

*The Coptic Version of the New Testament..... (1911)
George William Horner

Contrary to the lie u believe, KJV is not the first English language Bible.

I shall be back...
[quote author=OLAADEGBU post=75068409]"There are , however, no reputable authority or translations that support JW translation of this verse"

That's hogwash from OLAADEGBU
Christianity EtcRe: "How Can One Witness To A Jehovah's Witness?" by Janosky: 11:31am On Jan 25, 2019
OLAADEGBU:
Answering JW's

Here is the evidence that Jesus is God with a capital "G" who created all things.

"In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God."

The simple logic of this verse can be summed up as thus:

THE WORD = GOD

In John 1:14 it states:

"The Word became flesh, and dwelt among us."

From these verses we can deduce the following:

JESUS = THE WORD

If A = B and

B = C  then

A = C.

Then,

JESUS = THE WORD and

THE WORD = GOD,

therefore:

JESUS = GOD

If you contend that John 1:1 should be translated as "The Word was a god," and not "The Word was God." And if you are arguing that since theos (the Greek word for God) is preceded by the definite article (the) when it first appears in the verse, and the second time it appears it is not preceded by the definite article, then will be justified for translating the last part of John 1:1 "the Word was a god," because God appears without the definite article.  And you claim that John 1:1 does not say anything about Jesus' identity (i.e,  that He is God), but refers to a quality about Him.  There are, however, no reputable authorities or translations that support your JW translation of this verse.  In fact, your NWT has caused considerable outrage among Greek scholars because it is a major distortion of the text.

We are not surprised that the JW's don't even play by their own rules, it is inconsistently applied throughout your NWT.  Theos appears 6 times without the definite article in the first 18 verses of John's gospel (1,6,12,13 and twice in 18).  Yet, in the NWT, it is rendered God (referring to Jehovah), not a god, in each instance except for the last clause of 1:1, when it refers to Jesus! Do you see your inconsistencies? cheesy

To remain consistent, the JW's must hold that verse 6 should read:

"There arose a man that was sent forth as a representative of a god,"

that verse 12 should read:

"to become a god's children," and so on.

If you observe carefully you will note that the absence of the definite article does not refer to someone other than the true God.  The scholarly Arndt and Gingrich Greek Lexicon, p. 357, states that theos is used "quite predominantly of the true God, sometimes with, sometimes without, the article."
OLAADEGBU lying Pharisee wey no get sense .


* U dey quote John 1:12, make we use am start : English
"To become the children of God" ,
"that is to those who believe in his name"

Greek texts John:12says:
"To become the children of God ,that is, those who believe into the his name"
(" the" Greek, omitted in English "in his name", omission of definite article ).

* John 1:1,2 Greek " In beginning..(no definite article) the Word was with the God "(definite article).


*John 1:1,2 English "In the beginning " (definite article added).
"the Word was with God (omission of definite article).

If u dey honest, U see that context helps determine whether to omit or add indefinite /definite articles.
Christianity EtcRe: "How Can One Witness To A Jehovah's Witness?" by Janosky: 10:29am On Jan 25, 2019
OLAADEGBU:
Jesus is Jehovah (Yahweh). smiley
Janosky:
"Jesus is God" lying Pharisee misquoting scriptures.


"Jesus cried out with a loud voice:
'My God ,my God why have you forsaken me" (Psalms 22;1. Matt27:46.).

Your "god" cried out to himself with a loud voice.
Stupid senseless Pharisee.
The "god" of OLAADEGBU cried out with a loud voice & died where he was impaled. (Matt27:50).
Una sense done lost tay tay.
Christianity EtcRe: "How Can One Witness To A Jehovah's Witness?" by Janosky: 9:55am On Jan 25, 2019
johnw47:
oh duh lying pharisee jano/onej

do you want me to post more scriptures showing that Jesus is God? ask anytime, smile

2Co_4:4  In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them.

jano/onej:
Joh_8:44  Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.
"Jesus is God" johnw lying Pharisee misquoting scriptures.


"Jesus cried out with a loud voice:
'My God ,my God why have you forsaken me" (Psalms 22;1. Matt27:46.).

Your "god" cried out to himself with a loud voice.
Stupid senseless Pharisee.
Christianity EtcRe: "How Can One Witness To A Jehovah's Witness?" by Janosky: 2:36am On Jan 25, 2019
johnw47:
lying pharisee false jw jano/onej

the Word is God:

Joh 1:1  In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.


the jews knew Jesus was saying: I and my Father are God:
Joh 10:30  I and my Father are one. 
Joh 10:31  Then the Jews took up stones again to stone him. 
Joh 10:32  Jesus answered them, Many good works have I shewed you from my Father; for which of those works do ye stone me? 
Joh 10:33  The Jews answered him, saying, For a good work we stone thee not; but for blasphemy; and because that thou, being a man, makest thyself God.

 

Joh 20:28  And Thomas answered and said unto him, My Lord and my God

Mat 1:23  Behold, a virgin shall be with child, and shall bring forth a son, and they shall call his name Emmanuel, which being interpreted is, God with us

Heb 1:8  But unto the Son he saith, Thy throne, O God, is for ever and ever: a sceptre of righteousness is the sceptre of thy kingdom.

of course you lying pharisee jano/onej change the plain and clear meaning of what God inspired:
Rev_20:15  And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire.




Wooooooooooo scary, cheesy
Lol.. ..

U deceive yourselves that your fake john1'1 kjv is true whereas many Bible translations lend credence to the fact that NWT is very valid& correct in John 1:1.
The truth is always scary to johnw lying Pharisee & his fellow Pharisees.
Christianity EtcRe: Can Pentecostal Churches Make Offerings Optional Like Jehovah's Witnesses? by Janosky: 2:00am On Jan 25, 2019
Deadlytruth:
Stop deceiving yourself. "I don't like" simply is the negation of "I like" which is same as "I hate".
I am not pained that the OP saw anything that impressed him about you.
I understand you people are always looking for the approval of men.
People do express being impressed with moslems and the simplicity of their modes of worship which attracts converts to it hence it is the fastest growing religion in the world. But that doesn't automatically translate to it being the Organization of God. And the moslems themselves don't even salivate over such commendation.
It actually smacks of inferiority complex to always relish commendations from the world. .
U can not read the OP's mind, neither can u impose your bigotry on him.

If ,in your bigoted opinion JWs "always relish commendations from the world" is your problem, that's a red flag....

Of a truth u have serious self esteem issues.
Bully like u dey vex say person dey praise him fellow man wey u hate.
Hhmmm
Christianity EtcRe: Can Pentecostal Churches Make Offerings Optional Like Jehovah's Witnesses? by Janosky:
Deadlytruth:
Lies and truth can only be established on the precepts of the Bible. So as long as you can't prove me wrong based on the scriptures, all your attempt to create the impression that I am lying is self delusion

Jehovah's Witnesses, according to Awake magazine, meet up with their expenses by imposing compulsory donation of investments on their members. They also rely on asking for donations from even outsiders whom they label apostates. Ironically they don't join others in prayes because, according to them, they don't yet believe in the same god to whom the prayers will be directed. But when it comes to asking those 'apostates' for donation, they forget that those outsiders don't also yet believe in the same god whose message they want to use the donations to propagate.
Jesus never asked for donations towards his ministry from those who had not accepted his messages. Even though he could read people's minds and know who really was planning to be his convert soon, he didn't still capitalize on that to ask such for donations. He rather spent money on those whom he was evangelizing. Genuine Christians never take from unbelievers under any excuse. They rather give to unbelievers and the society at large. In 2 Corinthians 12:14, Paul said to even the believers in Corinth, "It is you I want, not your money'. Then how much more should true Christians be wary of unbelievers' moneys and donations ? Likewise, the Pentecostals and Orthodox Churches never ask unbelievers or non members for donations towards their mission when they go out to enangelize. They would rather win converts by identifying the needy unbeliever and get their Churches to assist him first before further preaching to him as Christians are asked to do in the book of James.
But your organization does the opposite to this by never rendering help to unbelievers at first it even second encounter, but demands for their donations towards their ministry without even caring to first find out how they are surviving. That definitely can't be of God. Never!
Deadlytruth your moniker says it all.
"Jehovah's witnesses meet up their expenses by imposing voluntary donations on their members.
They also rely on asking for donations even from outsiders whom they label apostates"
Oturugbeke!!!
What a lying, bigoted clown!

Pharisee dey form Christian , misquoted matt10:3-15 , & rejected Jesus instructions to preach from house to house.
vs11 -14 "As you enter the home , give it your greeting... if anyone will not welcome you or listen to your words, shake the dust off your feet when you leave that home or town"

Is this Pharisee normal?
Christianity EtcRe: "How Can One Witness To A Jehovah's Witness?" by Janosky: 12:20am On Jan 25, 2019
@OLAADEGBU

U dey post gabage dey deceive yourself & people wey no know their right from their left.

* "In a beginning was the Word, and the Word was with the God, and a god was the Word'
Emphatic Diaglott (1864)
Benjamin Wilson.

*NWT, u know that one..

Assignment for u.. .
Go see this Bibles & coman tell us what u found in John 1:1..

* The New Testament In Greek & English ( 1822)
A .Kneeland.

. *The New Testament in an Improved Version (1808)
Thomas Belsham

*The New Testament of Our Lord& Saviour Jesus Anointed (1958),
J.L. Tomanec

*The Coptic Version of the New Testament..... (1911)
George William Horner

Contrary to the lie u believe, KJV is not the first English language Bible.

I shall be back...
Christianity EtcRe: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by Janosky: 10:52am On Jan 23, 2019
johnw47:
lying pharisee jano/onej, read about some of your false jw's false prophecys:


Jehovah's Witnesses and their many false prophecies
by a christian

The Witnesses make many claims in their attempt to convert you to their faith. They profess to have the only true Christian church, to be the only true representatives of God, to have the only correct biblical teaching, and to be the only true announcers of Jehovah's coming kingdom.

If they are the only true church and are the only true voice of God's word, then what they say should prove to be true and especially in prophecy. When it comes to predicting the future, the Watchtower organization fails miserably. Following are some of the false predictions made over the years by the Watchtower organization. If you present these to a JW, he will probably say something like, "Those are taken out of context," or "They didn't claim to be the prophet of God," or "The light is getting brighter, and we are understanding Bible prophecy better now," etc. Make a copy of these false prophecies, found in the appendix, and give it to them to check. They are right out of the Witnesses' literature.

Remember Deut. 18:22, "If what a prophet proclaims in the name of the LORD does not take place or come true, that is a message the LORD has not spoken. That prophet has spoken presumptuously. Do not be afraid of him." If someone makes a false prophecy and they have claimed to be a prophet of God, then they are false prophets and are not to be listened to. Do the Witnesses claim to be the prophet of God? Yes, they do.

In 1972 the Jehovah's Witness Watchtower claimed to be the prophet of God.

IDENTIFYING THE "PROPHET"--"So does Jehovah have a prophet to help them, to warn them of dangers and to declare things to come? These questions can be answered in the affirmative. Who is this prophet? . . . This "prophet" was not one man, but was a body of men and women. It was the small group of footstep followers of Jesus Christ, known at that time as International Bible Students. Today they are known as Jehovah's Christian Witnesses . . . Of course, it is easy to say that this group acts as a 'prophet' of God. It is another thing to prove it," (Watchtower, Apr. 1, 1972, p. 197). (See Deut. 18:21.)

1897 "Our Lord, the appointed King, is now present, since October 1874," (Studies in the Scriptures, vol. 4, p. 621).
1899 " . . . the 'battle of the great day of God Almighty' (Revelation 16:14), which will end in A.D. 1914 with the complete overthrow of earth's present rulership, is already commenced," (The Time Is at Hand, 1908 edition, p. 101).
1916 "The Bible chronology herein presented shows that the six great 1000 year days beginning with Adam are ended, and that the great 7th Day, the 1000 years of Christ's Reign, began in 1873," (The Time Is at Hand, forward, p. ii).
1918 "Therefore we may confidently expect that 1925 will mark the return of Abraham, Isaac, Jacob and the faithful prophets of old, particularly those named by the Apostle in Hebrews 11, to the condition of human perfection," (Millions Now Living Will Never Die, p. 89).
1922 "The date 1925 is even more distinctly indicated by the Scriptures than 1914," (Watchtower, Sept. 1, 1922, p. 262).
1923 "Our thought is, that 1925 is definitely settled by the Scriptures. As to Noah, the Christian now has much more upon which to base his faith than Noah had upon which to base his faith in a coming deluge," (Watchtower, Apr. 1, 1923, p. 106).
1925 "The year 1925 is here. With great expectation Christians have looked forward to this year. Many have confidently expected that all members of the body of Christ will be changed to heavenly glory during this year. This may be accomplished. It may not be. In his own due time God will accomplish his purposes concerning his people. Christians should not be so deeply concerned about what may transpire this year," (Watchtower, Jan. 1, 1925, p. 3).
1925 "It is to be expected that Satan will try to inject into the minds of the consecrated, the thought that 1925 should see an end to the work," (Watchtower, Sept., 1925, p. 262).
1926 "Some anticipated that the work would end in 1925, but the Lord did not state so. The difficulty was that the friends inflated their imaginations beyond reason; and that when their imaginations burst asunder, they were inclined to throw away everything," (Watchtower, p. 232).
1931 "There was a measure of disappointment on the part of Jehovah's faithful ones on earth concerning the years 1917, 1918, and 1925, which disappointment lasted for a time . . . and they also learned to quit fixing dates," (Vindication, p. 338).
1941 "Receiving the gift, the marching children clasped it to them, not a toy or plaything for idle pleasure, but the Lord's provided instrument for most effective work in the remaining months before Armageddon," (Watchtower, Sept. 15, 1941, p. 288).
1968 "True, there have been those in times past who predicted an 'end to the world', even announcing a specific date. Yet nothing happened. The 'end' did not come. They were guilty of false prophesying. Why? What was missing? . . . Missing from such people were God's truths and evidence that he was using and guiding them," (Awake, Oct. 8, 1968).
1968 "Why are you looking forward to 1975?" (Watchtower, Aug. 15, 1968, p. 494).
A JW might say that the organization is still learning. If that is so, then how can they trust what they are taught now by the Watchtower? Will what they are being taught now change also?



A true prophet of God won't err in prophesying. Only a false prophet does. The Jehovah's Witness organization, that claims to be a prophet of God, is really a false prophet. Jesus warned us by saying, "For false Christs and false prophets will appear and perform great signs and miracles to deceive even the elect--if that were possible" (Matt. 24:24).
Fictitious tales ,hearsay without solid evidence.
John lying Pharisee dey thief &copy another man story for the gods..
Every other post copied from elsewhere, the OPs here will put their source( s) , but this plagiarist & lying Pharisee, no even trust the lies wey him dey post. Lol
Christianity EtcRe: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by Janosky: 10:36am On Jan 23, 2019
QnVee:
JW don't celebrate Christmas but will never turn down those Christmas bonuses in their paychecks. JW is not scriptural and the cult was formed in 1870 no blacks allowed for years. Christianity is biblical and mentioned at Antioch. Their Bible NWT has been revised for their own beliefs. I feel so sorry for the people who are blindly misled by this cult. I tried to warn a friend who had been raised as a Baptist about joining this cult. Despite warnings she joined and eventually lost her mind to schizophrenia, felt bugs crawling on her, felt someone was stalking her and breaking out in rashes. She wasn't allowed to go to her mother's or siblings funeral service when they died and spoke ill of them for being lost Baptist. She became obsessed with her children joining and went into a deep depression when they joined the Baptist church and denounced JW warning her to leave the organization. When she lost her mind, Not one JW visited her in the hospital despite her devotion to this cult and only friends from other Christian denominations were there. Five years she was in a nursing home without one visit from the Kingdom hall or fellow JW yet she held on to JW false doctrine. When she died no JW there for service and the Kingdom Hall offered no service despite her devotion. When JW knock on my door I don't answer. If they leave a watchtower I throw it in the trash.
Incoherent post of lies & half truths.
U go dey add your maggi & royco but we still know u are lying.
Christianity EtcRe: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by Janosky: 10:24am On Jan 23, 2019
johnw47:
no one who lies is of God but is of their father the devil

Joh_8:44  Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.




Rev_2:2  I know thy works, and thy labour, and thy patience, and how thou canst not bear them which are evil: and thou hast tried them which say they are apostles, and are not, and hast found them liars:


Rev_21:8  But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death.


Rev_20:15  And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire.
Johnw lying Pharisee quoted scriptures just like his father does (John 8:44).
Apostle of "Jesus is Jehovah God " deceit.
"Jesus is not God the Father, Jesus is God"
"Jesus, God & 'holy ghost', coequal.
" Father, Jesus ,'holy ghost', hierarchy."
Weaving & twisting their lies .
My people say pis* for one place make eee foam, no confuse your self. 1cor14:33
Christianity EtcRe: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by Janosky: 9:58am On Jan 23, 2019
brocab:
Jesus was never separated from the Father-they were One-everything the Father told Jesus to do-Jesus done it to plan, Father like Son...
it was the Jehovah’s Witnesses who printed the King James Version on their own printing presses. [/color]
You should read up a little history about your organisation-Do you know by 1992 the Witnesses had produced 1,858,368 copies of the KJ's version, [color=#990000]the Watchtower approved it, signed it, and sent out 1,858,368 copies around the world..
Common sense taught u not to throw away the baby & the bath water.

*kJV used God's name Jehovah in few places(Exodus 6:3, Ps83:18, (thats commendable) although u brocab have ridiculed how that name came about.

*However, everyone knows that some verses in KJV were falsified & doctored for devious purposes.
Those verses did not reflect whats exactly in old Greek manuscripts texts discovered this days.

*In John 1:1 , the real meaning that the writer intended is that Jesus the word was divine,(that's the real agreement of John 1:1 & John 20:17,30,31).
But because una no get sense, una say God na Jesus
even though v2 open una eyes say Jesus was with God ,& jesus say him own God na your God (v20:17).
. John The writer still end am say last last "believe that Jesus is the son of GOD"(John 20:30,31).

Una no agree. brocab no like truth at all
.
brocab lying Pharisee, Jesus is not "God's spoken word", he was appointed as "God's spokesman" , that is the true meaning of "the word of God" (Heb1:1,2. Rev19:13).
Christianity EtcRe: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by Janosky: 9:53am On Jan 23, 2019
[quote author=brocab post=75021742][/quote]Common sense taught u not to throw away the baby & the bath water.

*kJV used God's name Jehovah in few places(Exodus 6:3, Ps83:18, (thats commendable) although u brocab have ridiculed how that name came about.

*However, everyone knows that some verses in KJV were falsified & doctored for devious purposes.
Those verses did not reflect whats exactly in old Greek manuscripts texts discovered this days.

*In John 1:1 , the real meaning that the writer intended is that Jesus the word was divine,(that's the real agreement of John 1:1 & John 20:17,30,31).
But because una no get sense, una say God na Jesus
even though v2 open una eyes say Jesus was with God ,& jesus say him own God na your God (v20:17).
. John The writer still end am say last last "believe that Jesus is the son of GOD"(John 20:30,31).

Una no agree. brocab no like truth at all
.
brocab lying Pharisee, Jesus is not "God's spoken word", he was appointed as "God's spokesman" , that is the true meaning of "the word of God" (Heb1:1,2. Rev19:13).
FamilyRe: Can You Marry A Man Who Divorced His Wife Due To Infidelity? by Janosky: 10:55pm On Jan 22, 2019
easyconnect:
He divorced his wife due to infidelity and now in love with another lady. is it OK to marry such man? don't you think the man has the spirit of unforgiveness? what can you advise pls?
is infidelity in a woman beyond forgiveness? (I'm not encouraging infidelity in both anyway)
Infidelity of a man or wife is serious issue.
Every one has his/ her forbearance limit on this matter, especially the gravity of the sin, u shouldn't hold it against them.
If that divorced man is courting u ,then pls seek divine guidance before u commit yourself to him in marriage.
Jah bless & help U
Christianity EtcRe: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by Janosky:
Janosky:
My points & posers are very valid .

Johnw lying Pharisee Mr Twister seeking every emergency to scram
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"One of the soldiers pierced Jesus side with a spear.... for these things took place that the scriptures might be fulfilled.... "They shall look on him whom they have pierced"
john19:34-37.

"Jesus cried out with a loud voice: My God (Jehovah),my God (jehovah) why have you forsaken me?" (a prophecy of psalms 22:1).

More solid evidence that Jesus is not JEHOVAH,his God.

Let us apply Johnw fake analogy of Zechariah 12:10=Rev1:7 compared to Psalms 22:1= Matt 27:46,
Johnw lying Pharisee has lied that YAHWEH was crying out loud to himself ;
"Yahweh, Yahweh, why have u forsaken (abandoned) yourself?"

Johnw lying Pharisee no get sense.
Educated illiterate confirmed!!!!!!!

Get out ta here with your foolishness.
Jesus is NOT Jehovah.
Open your heart to the truth & set yourself free John 8:32.
johnw47:
Jesus is Jehovah God.
johnw47:
no i didn't say: "YAHWEH was crying out loud to himself",
johnw47:
Jesus is Jehovah God.
johnw47:
lying pharisee false jw jano/onej
oh duh read zec 12 again know nothing jano/onej
the chapter is about Jehovah
and rev 1:7 is concerning Jesus
Jesus is Jehovah

YAHWEH
Zec 12:10 And I will pour upon the house of David, and upon the inhabitants of Jerusalem, the spirit of grace and of supplications: and they shall look upon me whom they have pierced, and they shall mourn for him, as one mourneth for his only son, and shall be in bitterness for him, as one that is in bitterness for his firstborn.

Jesus
Rev 1:7 Behold, he cometh with clouds; and every eye shall see him, and they also which pierced him: and all kindreds of the earth shall wail because of him. Even so, Amen.

but of course you don't believe God's word deceiving false jw jano/onej
and all the other verses showing that Jesus is Jehovah
johnw lying Pharisee wey dey lie like his father (John 8:44)
He said Zechariah 12:10& Rev1:7
shows that Jesus is Jehovah.
Ok, na
Psalms 22:1 & Matt27:46 is saying
that Jesus is Jehovah that cried out to himself with a loud voice:
" My God ( Jehovah),my God (Jehovah) why have u forsaken ( abandoned) yourself?"

Matt27:46 & Psalms 22:1 dey give johnw lying Pharisee ("Jesus is Jehovah) lie a devastating killer punch.

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