Christianity Etc › Re: This OT Verse Strongly Proves That Jesus Is God! - All Doubts Cleared by Janosky: 10:52pm On Jan 17, 2025 |
DaddyCoool: So did Armageddon occure in 1914 or not? This below says it did - albeit invisibly! Notice all those years of JW failed prophecies JW's didn't connect Armageddon to 1914.
Pls don't get it twisted or make claims you can't prove.
According to the screenshots,Are your pastors perfect and sinless?
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Christianity Etc › Re: This OT Verse Strongly Proves That Jesus Is God! - All Doubts Cleared by Janosky: 10:51pm On Jan 17, 2025 |
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Christianity Etc › Re: This OT Verse Strongly Proves That Jesus Is God! - All Doubts Cleared by Janosky: 9:53pm On Jan 17, 2025 |
Christmyhope: You are right sir. I love the understanding of the gospel by some brothers and sisters on this forum in Christ Jesus. May God be forever praised in Christ Jesus through the church. Amen Matthew 24:36, Jesus said " concerning that day and hour.... only the Father knows."
Gothamcities post "The right thing Jesus was supposed to say is "...the time and the seasons which only the Father knows." If He had said that, it would have put a question on His omniscience..."
Oga,@ Matthew 24:36 did Jesus refute your claim?
Yes nah!! Matthew 24:36 evidence given by Jesus.
Matthew 24:36, Jesus said: " Concerning that day and the hour (times and seasons in the Father's jurisdiction @Acts 1:7) nobody knows....... But ONLY the Father" Acts 1:7 is referenced to Matthew 24:36 in your Bible concordance.
Make all of una continue deceiving yourselves.. |
Christianity Etc › Re: This OT Verse Strongly Proves That Jesus Is God! - All Doubts Cleared by Janosky: 9:11pm On Jan 17, 2025 |
MaxInDHouse: Mention the religion that trains people to kill, steal, homosexual, drunkenness, prostitute, drug abuse, lie.
God's Kingdom will not tolerate any of these acts but people practice them.
Who will go and teach people how to avoid such acts?
Well Christ Jesus sent us out to preach and teach people not to do any of these things that's why he said we have to change some jobs after becoming Christians!
“Truly I say to you, no one has left house or brothers or sisters or mother or father or children or fields for my sake and for the sake of the good news who will not get 100 times more now in this period of time—houses, brothers, sisters, mothers, children, and fields, with persecutions—and in the coming system of things, everlasting life. But many who are first will be last, and the last first.” mark 10:39-31
Guy "fields" means jobs which a Christian must resign or forgo because it doesn't speak well of disciples of Christ!  His pastor says those practices are going on like kilode inside their church
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Christianity Etc › Re: This OT Verse Strongly Proves That Jesus Is God! - All Doubts Cleared by Janosky: 1:28pm On Jan 17, 2025 |
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Christianity Etc › Re: This OT Verse Strongly Proves That Jesus Is God! - All Doubts Cleared by Janosky: 1:23pm On Jan 17, 2025 |
gohf: God didn't do that, you people did Very true. Since 326 AD at Nicene & thereafter added the ghost Combo in 381 AD.  |
Christianity Etc › Re: This OT Verse Strongly Proves That Jesus Is God! - All Doubts Cleared by Janosky: 1:19pm On Jan 17, 2025 |
SonofElohim1379: Soo much writing and obfuscation without making sense. Your argument is simply all over the place
Observe this scripture carefully
John 17:5 And now, O Father, glorify thou me with thine own self with the glory which I had with thee before the world was.
If God the Father Glorifies Jesus with his own self, what does it imply?
Have you forgotten that Yeshua is the word of God? Can God be seperate from his Word?
It's just common sense and needs no further arguments John 17:5= John 17:22. Jesus Christ said: "I have given them the glory that you gave me (in verse 5), that they maybe one as we are one ".
Oga, Jesus Christ has proven that Jesus himself, the disciples and God the Father share the same glory.
John 17:5 doesn't support your claim. Jesus himself said so in John 17:22.
It is wicked & dishonest to cherry pick John 17:5 & leave out John 17:22.
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Christianity Etc › Re: This OT Verse Strongly Proves That Jesus Is God! - All Doubts Cleared by Janosky: 1:02pm On Jan 17, 2025 |
Truthseeker10: gohf and steep come and see what Nachmonides is saying about what a person needs to understand Trinity oo. So a layman who does not understand programming languages cannot understand Trinity oo🤣🤣🤣🤣.
Nachmonides I gave you a simple sketch of the Trinity diagram that I found on the internet. You claim that it was not correct. Why can't you provide a simple sketch that explains the error. Is it that you don't also understand this Trinity concept? Programming Language nah Trinitarians holy scriptures.
It contains all the twists and lopsided jargons not supported in the holy bible.  |
Christianity Etc › Re: This OT Verse Strongly Proves That Jesus Is God! - All Doubts Cleared by Janosky: 12:48pm On Jan 17, 2025 |
Screenshot evidence: "Pastor's daughter finds freedom " Read now ➤ Pastor's Daughter Who Dumped Christianity and Became Godless Shares What She Discovered 0 Wednesday, January 08, 2025 at 3:49 PM by Victor Duru .
*The daughter of a pastor who turned from the way of Christianity and embraced atheism has shared her "deconstruction" story .
*The young lady said she was not allowed to question the beliefs or hold a different opinion from those of her parents .
*The atheist, who grew up in a very strict Christian home, opened up about things she found out about Christianity that changed her . *PAY ATTENTION: Shalom, a pastor's daughter, has opened up to her TikTok followers about why she dumped Christianity for atheism. *The young lady, raised in a very strict Christian home, stated that the challenges associated with such an upbringing were rigid thinking and a lack of emotional intelligence that accompanies religious fundamentalism".
Read more: https://www.legit.ng/people/1634602-pastors-daughter-dumped-christianity-godless-shares-what-discovered/
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Christianity Etc › Re: This OT Verse Strongly Proves That Jesus Is God! - All Doubts Cleared by Janosky: 12:43pm On Jan 17, 2025 |
DaddyCoool: I don't hate JW AT ALL - because I KNOW they're just misguided. The people I blame are their higher ups. And even those I don't blame too much because they HAVE TO keep things as they are - it's not them that started it.
One of my closest friends grew up totally JW. She said she left (NOT excommunicated) because she got close to the leadership and didn't like what she saw. Now she doesn't believe in religion AT ALL. She wouldn't go to church if you paid her! According to your logic,Your pastors/church are misguided.
The screenshot evidence of pastor's daughter testimony "she got close to the church leadership & she didn't like what she saw. Now, she wouldn't go to church if you paid her "
She added that "independent thinking" is frowned upon by the church."
You never cleanse the mess in Christendom but you dey WAILING about JW's.  |
Christianity Etc › Re: This OT Verse Strongly Proves That Jesus Is God! - All Doubts Cleared by Janosky: 12:34pm On Jan 17, 2025 |
GothamCities: There are Christians, Atheists, Pagans and Muslims on the battle field. Tell me which Church sent troops to fight as you have claimed! Oga, allow your brain to function nau. You are seeing the evidence but Continue deceiving yourself.
"Political leaders in both Russia and Ukraine have looked to their religious communities for support. In some cases, religious leaders have offered explicit support and even donned uniforms to serve in the armed forces, providing important sources of legitimacy for their countries’ position on the war."
"Russian Orthodox church declares 'holy war ' against Ukraine and the West " Are you viewing the screenshot evidence?
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Christianity Etc › Re: This OT Verse Strongly Proves That Jesus Is God! - All Doubts Cleared by Janosky: 12:13pm On Jan 17, 2025 |
DaddyCoool: All these Christian churches below are like JW but without the baggage and failed prophecies:
Mormons, Seventh-day Adventists, Quakers (Religious Society of Friends), Mennonites, Amish, Church of the Brethren, According to the screenshots evidence, Is your own church or your fellow Trinitarian devotees "without the baggage and failed prophecies?"
Go and cleanse that baggage that your revered pastor highlighted it's practice in your churches. Go & demand an apology from your pastor deceiving you with FALSE prophecies. Your hypocrisy stinks. 
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Christianity Etc › Re: This OT Verse Strongly Proves That Jesus Is God! - All Doubts Cleared by Janosky: 11:06pm On Jan 14, 2025 |
MaxInDHouse: Please don't insult them because they are FACELESS unlike we with reputable group name. If they want to deny their Orthodox members in Christendom it's also a welcome development at least they will first admit that there is no unity among them then we will now ask them if their church members aren't into military services!  Ok. I said so because of This screenshot ,she pulled the trigger 
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Christianity Etc › Re: This OT Verse Strongly Proves That Jesus Is God! - All Doubts Cleared by Janosky: 10:51pm On Jan 14, 2025 |
gohf: o it was not is 😁👍 Nah so their brains dey function to deceive them. The last sentence "was Theos" is the last sentence of Acts 28:6 & John 1:1.
Theos is not capitalized when that being referenced in the verse is not God Almighty, for instance Psalm77:13 & Acts 28:6, Acts 12:21-23 |
Christianity Etc › Re: This OT Verse Strongly Proves That Jesus Is God! - All Doubts Cleared by Janosky: 10:37pm On Jan 14, 2025 |
GothamCities: Hmm. May God have mercy on their souls. GothamCities: Your lies have been busted!
Mention the Churches that are fighting! Russian and Ukraine Orthodox churches are moslems and atheists?
Oga, komot your IBERIBEISM far away from this public forum . |
Christianity Etc › Re: This OT Verse Strongly Proves That Jesus Is God! - All Doubts Cleared by Janosky: 10:20pm On Jan 14, 2025 |
GothamCities: No, anyone could be fighting in Ukraine. If a Church or Churches are fighting any war anywhere according to you and your goons, mention the Churches and the sources that listed them.
Is that difficult for you to do?
It's even the audacity for me! Your organization produces weapons, yet you're here making false claims of Churches fighting wars. You don't want to use the brain that God gave you.
Are the Orthodox church denominations in Ukraine and Russia profess atheism?
Oga,carry your MUMU outta this forum.  |
Christianity Etc › Re: This OT Verse Strongly Proves That Jesus Is God! - All Doubts Cleared by Janosky: 10:09pm On Jan 14, 2025 |
GothamCities: So, you don't know that there'll be resurrections at Christ's coming?
Sit down in humility and respect,and I will teach you the scriptures.
The Bible says ALL EYES SHALL SEE HIM. This ignoramus says it's a parable. Is His second coming a parable? Jesus came in 1914, bwahahaha. Are you bewitched? Did all eyes see Jesus Christ ascension? No. Did your own Bible tell you that in the manner of his ascent is the same manner Jesus will return? Yes, your Bible did. Did your own Bible tell you Jesus Christ is coming like a thief in the night? Yes. Is a thief coming to a place in the night visible to every resident? No, some residents will sleep like a log of wood & hear/see nothing. "All eyes (God's servants blessed with discernment) will see him (Jesus).
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Christianity Etc › Re: This OT Verse Strongly Proves That Jesus Is God! - All Doubts Cleared by Janosky: 9:58pm On Jan 14, 2025 |
DaddyCoool: God (Christ) never intended that humans be robots BUT JW perverted that among other things Is Matthew 4:10 "Worship ONLY Jehovah your God (the doctrine that Jesus learned from Jehovah his God ) written in that Bible you hide inside your locker?  |
Christianity Etc › Re: This OT Verse Strongly Proves That Jesus Is God! - All Doubts Cleared by Janosky: 9:53pm On Jan 14, 2025 |
MaxInDHouse: By pagans who will end up arguing, insulting, abusing, cursing, fighting and killing themselves because of politics and racism! Matthew 4:10 COMMON SENSE taught by Jesus Christ is not in their own Bibles.  |
Christianity Etc › Re: This OT Verse Strongly Proves That Jesus Is God! - All Doubts Cleared by Janosky: 6:38pm On Jan 14, 2025 |
GothamCities: Please mention the Churches that are killing themselves. Is that too hard for you guys? Is Russian Orthodox church a denomination? It is ooO!
Did You see evidence of Russian Orthodox church clergy blessing war troops & emphatic support of violence against their fellow Ukrainian church members? Yes you did. Does the Ukrainian chaplain (in the screenshot) belong to any church in Ukraine ? Yes. He didn't wake up one morning & get appointment into chaplaincy .
Gotham, continue your IBERIBEISM deceiving yourself.  |
Christianity Etc › Re: This OT Verse Strongly Proves That Jesus Is God! - All Doubts Cleared by Janosky: 6:17pm On Jan 14, 2025 |
Nachmonides: Haha. I'll soon unfollow this thread because it's been the same old, nonsensical, unwise, sensual, devilish, responses I've been witnessing from you JWs.
Here's my conclusion: Do the study yourself, don't believe all I've said or anybody here has said, compile the odd evidences of Trinity in scripture yourself, consult the original Hebrew and Greek depending on the book you're studying in time. Come to a conclusion for yourself based on the God-given senses you have. God actually expects we utilise our senses in reading and studying scriptures; scripture say we should "Study...", and studying is brain work, but not just that, like the Apostle Paul says, pray for the "eyes" of your understanding to be enlightened, so that you may know.
13/01/'25 20:56 - N, your brother in Christ. The proof given to you that Ehyeh is "I will be" at Exodus 3:12 Greek Septuagint, not "I Am "
Trinitarian FALSEhood : "I AM have sent me to you" Is not found in Exodus 3:14 Greek Septuagint.
"Ho on (the Being) have sent me to you" , this rendition of the Greek Septuagint, not " I Am" .
These truth and facts brought to you by JW's is what you are label as " nonsensical, unwise, sensual, devilish, responses I've been witnessing from you JWs."
Nachmonides,You have no love for the truth. I won't mince words to say it as it is. |
Christianity Etc › Re: This OT Verse Strongly Proves That Jesus Is God! - All Doubts Cleared by Janosky: 5:52pm On Jan 14, 2025 |
DaddyCoool: JW seems to go hand in hand with lying about such things. They still lie about giving false prophesies about end of world The person wey no agree with the teaching of Jesus Christ to worship ONLY Jehovah @ Matthew 4:10.
When are you going to stop deceiving yourself? |
Christianity Etc › Re: This OT Verse Strongly Proves That Jesus Is God! - All Doubts Cleared by Janosky: 5:43pm On Jan 14, 2025 |
GothamCities: Agree that you are a Shameless Liar for not mentioning the names of the Churches fighting in Ukraine;
So, Shameless Liar, the truth is that the scripture you quoted is a prophecy of what will happen after Jesus' return. Your filthy organization cannot fulfil that prophecy. Jesus is the Prince of Peace. Not your filthy cult. GothamCities: You made a claim on churches. Mention the Churches that are killing themselves in Russia and Ukraine or anywhere else. Refer me to the News sources that listed the Churches.
After making the claim, is it difficult for you to substantiate your claim? You no dey watch BBC News & Al Jazeera news? Russian & Ukrainian Christians are killing themselves while their clergy are supporting the violence & carnage on both sides.
Muslims on both sides are killing themselves too. Stop LYING and deceiving yourself, the screenshot evidence of the clergymen Blessing the troops & giving support to the government is proof.
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Christianity Etc › Re: This OT Verse Strongly Proves That Jesus Is God! - All Doubts Cleared by Janosky: 6:32pm On Jan 13, 2025 |
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Christianity Etc › Re: This OT Verse Strongly Proves That Jesus Is God! - All Doubts Cleared by Janosky: 6:29pm On Jan 13, 2025 |
GothamCities: Because the knowledge of God is infinite. You cannot completely know God. You can only know the little He has revealed to you about Himself. Which one of your 3 deities is "Himself" /"He"?  |
Christianity Etc › Re: This OT Verse Strongly Proves That Jesus Is God! - All Doubts Cleared by Janosky: 6:25pm On Jan 13, 2025 |
Nachmonides: We can only ever see and understand the infinite through our finite lens. Jesus spoke to the crowds by illustrations. Indeed, without an illustration he would not speak to them.”—MATTHEW 13:34-35
Jesus used simple illustrations of visible, every day events & easy to understand ideas to explain spiritual realities.
He did resort to Greek philosophy or human ideas conflicting with the holy scriptures. |
Christianity Etc › Re: This OT Verse Strongly Proves That Jesus Is God! - All Doubts Cleared by Janosky: 6:15pm On Jan 13, 2025 |
DaddyCoool: You JW's really ought apply some COMMON SENSE!! Matthew 4:10 is the only COMMON SENSE!! JW's have that Matthew 4:10 COMMON SENSE!! Jesus Christ taught me that COMMON SENSE at Matthew 4:10.
DaddyCoool: Jehovah raised Jesus that was already dead. Don't you think he knew he'd be worshipped as God?? If your claim/viewpoint were true,Matthew 4:10 won't exist in your Bible. Madam, why would Jehovah God give you a doctrine to contradict His instructions given to Jesus @ Matthew 4:10?The instruction Jehovah God gave to Yeshua His son: "Then Yeshua said to him, “Depart Satan, for it is written: 'You shall worship THE LORD JEHOVAH your God and him alone shall you serve." DaddyCoool: Different if we were in 1st century. But this is over 2000 years later and those churches have only gotten stronger. Jehovah that was extremely touchy about such things! Pikin wey dey disobedient and stubborn nah better Pikin? Madam, did you Write your own Bible? Please Obey Jehovah the God given instructions your own Bible, @ Revelation 22:18 & Matthew 4:10. "Those churches" have Matthew 4:10 in their Bible but stick to man made ideas invented at Nicene in 326 AD & 381 AD  DaddyCoool: Please stop insulting Him. If he never intended that Christ be worshipped as God, he never would have been! Jesus dwelling in heaven confirm he is worshipping Jehovah "my God" @ Revelation 3:12.
The instructions Jehovah God given to Jesus Christ @Matthew 4:10 is JW's COMMON SENSE.
Madam, your claim is FALSE!
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Christianity Etc › Re: This OT Verse Strongly Proves That Jesus Is God! - All Doubts Cleared by Janosky: 4:59pm On Jan 13, 2025 |
Nachmonides: You are unwise and unintelligent.
The term "beings" in this context simply refers to individuals who share the same nature or essence (humanity). It doesn't imply that we are separate or entirely different in substance.
"Beings" in the phrase "human beings" refers to [b]individuals with the same essence of humanity,[/b] not different essences or completely separate beings. According to Nachmonides the term "beings" are Individuals sharing the same essence.
Does Satan a spirit share the same essence with other spirit beings?
Who will help this confused Nachmonides?  |
Christianity Etc › Re: This OT Verse Strongly Proves That Jesus Is God! - All Doubts Cleared by Janosky: 4:32pm On Jan 13, 2025 |
Nachmonides: There's no more than 1 being in the concept of the Trinity.
It's just 1 being.
For example, your being is human, my being is also human, but we are different persons.
We share the same essence, which is humanity. However we are distinct persons with unique identities and characteristics. You are not me, I am not you, but we are both human. We are all human beings. Being has plural.
Jehovah God is a spirit, the Supreme Being. Jesus his son is another being,a spirit. Distinct entities.
You guys should stop LYING to yourselves.  |
Christianity Etc › Re: This OT Verse Strongly Proves That Jesus Is God! - All Doubts Cleared by Janosky: 4:23pm On Jan 13, 2025 |
gohf: John.3.34 For the one whom God has sent speaks the words of God, for God gives the Spirit without limit.
1. So God gave God to God without measure? 😏
And when God was his second person he died and gave himself back to his first person God so that his third person can come.
2. So God changed Himself to three forms or He was always three forms. If He was always three forms so then why did He say only He is God? Why is God not differentiated anywhere in scripture as God the Father, God the Spirit why did He only reveal Himself has One God and even gave commandments in line with thay revelation? Solid, interesting point,Sir. |
Christianity Etc › Re: This OT Verse Strongly Proves That Jesus Is God! - All Doubts Cleared by Janosky: 4:19pm On Jan 13, 2025 |
GothamCities: This brings us to a better understanding of what Jesus said in Acts 1:7. Honestly, I have struggled to understand that verse until tonight.
When the disciples were asking the Lord Jesus about the timing of His second coming, He answered them in Acts 1:7 which states:
"It is not for you to know the times or the seasons, which the Father hath put in his own power"
The right thing Jesus was supposed to say is "...the time and the seasons which only the Father knows." If He had said that, it would have put a question on His omniscience. But He said the Father puts that in His power. I actually didn't understand the putting in His power phrase until tonight after reading the response from my brother Nachmonides. Only God his Father knows the times and seasons. Check your Bible concordance to see the reference of Acts 1:7 to Matthew 24:36 & vice versa. Stop deceiving yourselves. *Cc: NachmonidesGothamCities: Now, I understand that Jesus is speaking to His disciples here, telling them that it's not their responsibility to know the timing of the future event, - the restoration of the kingdom to Israel which happens only during the second coming. He emphasized that God the Father has reserved the right to determine the timing of the event, and it's not for humans to know or speculate about the exact timing.
This further proves that it's not a matter of Christ not being all knowing but a matter of understanding the individual roles in the Trinity.
DaddyCoool. It's a matter of your rejection of Matthew 24:36 &
sticking to your delusion invented at Nicene. 
John 8:28, Acts 1:7, why would Jesus be taught that God his Father solely possess the Authority to decide the times and seasons?
. Acts 1:7 aexousiauthority; ἐξουσίᾳ () 1849: power to act, authority
John 8:24,28 , John 14:28 & Matthew 24:36 Jesus Christ DO NOT have the power /Authority of the God Almighty greater than Jesus.
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Christianity Etc › Re: This OT Verse Strongly Proves That Jesus Is God! - All Doubts Cleared by Janosky: 3:53pm On Jan 13, 2025 |
DaddyCoool: School us. Mention one instance in OT where Jehovah allowed anybody to be worshiped with him and as him even for a month. Unless you're talking of a different Jehovah Jehovah God did NOT allow that. Deuteronomy 6:13 & Matthew 4:10 is proof. That is my point. Trinitarians choose to ADD another being to worship alongside Jehovah, just realize that they have broken Jehovah's instructions of Matthew 4:10. |