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Where is Funmi again? Anyone know her latest pseudonym?

When the northerners go, I'm willing to bet my bottom dollar Yorubas and Igbos will sooner or later jump at each other's throats, and drag the other tribes with them into their abyss of tribal razztazz.

Well said!

I don't want Nigeria join Benin republic!

Also read it in a couple of papers. I guess he's returning to anchor a programme, event or writing column. Something like that, just to keep people in suspense.

@poster,
I also experienced this some years ago. I will advise you to get good Islamic texts(English version) and read. Of course, you are already used to reading the Qur'an.
The following may also be helpful:
1, Think of positive things.
2, Know that joy does not lie in worldly acquisitions only, but don't abandon your striving for that which benefit you in this world, while not forgetting the hereafter.
3, Visit this site www.islamqa.com. Go to psychology section and read valuable advice/answers by Sheikh Munajjid, Ibn Baaz etc to people who have asked similar questions in the past
4, Live your life as it comes, know that nothing happens, not even the falling of a leaf from a tree, withut Allah's knowledge
5, Check yourself. Is there a sin you are addicted to? Try to work on yourself.
6, Try to get this book 'Hisnu Muslim' (Citadel of a believer). There are supplications on depression there. They work wonder. I'm talking from experience.

Has anyone be told that Niger state gov rode canoe when going to riverine area?

Yes, I read it in papers few months ago. But what happened? One of the canoes sank and they lost a commissioner, one member of the state house and one other person. It was alleged that it was the handiwork of the people of the village they visited who were not happy with their rep in the house for neglecting them.

Barka Jumuat to all my Muslim brothers & sisters!

tkb417:
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Kwara Bombers!

tkb, ur head dey dia

I watched the interview on BBC and it was explosive.
Obasanjo characteristically took charge of the interview and blew hot on the interviewer. It was very interesting.

Hey guyz, anybody know Okin FC in the 80s? What was the name of the Kwara state-owned FC now changed to Kwara United?

Good to hear that.


_{Let's see if this will not be looked at from a tribal dimension again}

I dont think its ethical to nominate exconvicts as role models, u know what i am talking bout.

I just mentioned it. I only looked up to him when he was calling the shots as Chairman/CEO of Commerce bank, one of the banks licensed in 1989 alongside GT, Intercontinental and doing great.
He may not be worth being made a role model again after his conviction by Abacha's failed bank tribunal and the collapse of his bank, but even after reading his books 'PRESUMED GUILTY' and 'DARK NIGHT OF THE SOUL' on his ordeal, I still believe his ordeal was a political set up for his romancing with Abiola.
Bunmi Oni of Cadbury also used to be one of the chaps in corporate Nigeria that was highly reverred for his 'brilliance', but after his conviction, nobody will want to use him as a model again.

There are hundreds of Yoruba in the north who will tell you they are from Sokoto, Zamfara or Kebbi states. They claim to be Hausa
They were born and bred there. Some still speak Yoruba fluently, some can't speak it fluently. Some understand and can speak Yoruba but don't like to speak it so as to gain acceptance among their Hausa friends. This was another amazement I came across in my service year in Sokoto. Yoruba claiming Hausa, and pretending not to understand Yoruba. One instance: I was in an eatery one day in Sokoto University Medical school campus. There was this lady sitting in my front. One guy, a friend of hers, was speaking to her in Yoruba but she was replying in English. After the guy left I asked her whether she was Yoruba and she told me she was Hausa, that just stayed with 'them'(Yoruba) and that was why she understands Yoruba. Her dressing, and intonation(both in English and Hausa) were plainly Hausaesque, so I was left in no doubt that she was actually Hausa.
But still curious, a couple of days later, I met the Yoruba guy again at the canteen and asked him whether the lady she was speaking with two days ago was Yoruba or Hausa. He told me she was a Yoruba girl. I was very surprised. So somebody can deny being a Yoruba, claiming Hausa for that matter.
I later met many of them like that; they are Yoruba but born and bred in the north, so feel more comfortable and acceptable claiming Hausa. I met two other guys that I heard were Yoruba, but claim Hausa. One didn't know I knew but the other knew and spoke Yoruba(smattering, not fluent) tome whenever there was noboby with us, especially ladies. For the other one, I didn't want to burst his bubble, so I also pretended as if I didn't know he was Yoruba, so I spoke English to him always.

So your friend is free to claim Lagos if he feels more like a Lagosian.

@Contactuzo,
Hope you are not one of the PWC guys distuirbing me here. . . . .lol

RichyBlacK:
Inaccurate!

Stanford university is not an Ivy League school. Nigerian journalists make this mistake a lot, and have in the past included MIT, CalTech and Georgia Tech as Ivy League schools. There are only eight Ivy League schools (in alphabetical order):

1. Brown University
2. Columbia University
3. Cornell University
4. Dartmouth College
5. Harvard University
6. Princeton University
7. University of Pennsylvania
8. Yale University

So I have been carrying misinformation all this while. Thanks for educating me.

Hm! One Yoruba, two Igbo, zero hausa/fulani hopefuls in US govt. It is indeed clear that on a clean and equal ground, Igbo and to some extent the Yoruba are the best in Nigeria, and of the two, Igbos stand out. But in Nigeria where mediocrity and corruption is the rule, the dogs have taken over.

Immediately I saw the 3 names in the story, I knew this was what will follow.

Jigawa 95.07%

Kebbi 89.65%

Kogi 88.55%

Kwara 85.22%

Yobe 83.25%

Are we this poor in Kwara? Or is because I don't know more than Ilorin and Offa? I have been to some parts of core north and I saw poverty written on people's faces.

But I go with this statistics, since it's empirical and mine is just plain observation.

royalicon:
I go for my lovely brother Kola Agunleti of Kayo Moore Micro Ltd.
He teach me how to fish when non of these your men could not give me fish to eat after my B.Sc and some professional qualification -"plenfiful application".

He role modeled me to the extent I now employ people to work for me. In my own opinion, being a role model is not about what u have or do, but how u touched my life positively to be relevant within the society.

Kudos to you my guy.

Good, practical one there. Congrats!

AjanleKoko:
Hi Jarus,
I'm going to go with you on Fola Adeola.
For many years, GTB stood out on account of their no-frills, can-do banking attitude, and their principled, efficient and disciplined staff.
Maybe it's a bit diluted now, but back then I was really impressed by a couple of things about GTB's staff:
1. They never used to hire staff except at Entry Level and Senior Manager. That's some good continuity by promoting through the ranks.
2. Their training school was a beacon in the sector.

Considering that the man himself does not have a significant silver spoon entry like Tinubu and Lamido Sanusi, as well as an Oxford-Cambridge-Harvard pedigree, I would say he is definitely a role model for Nigerian business. Incidentally, HBS has made case studies of GT Bank in the past. I'll try to dig up the cases and post for general consumption.
Peace.

Fola Adeola is no doubt a boardroom guru, a visionary manager of human and material resources. The brand he built for GTB still makes the bank a reference point in corporate governance in the country.

hellypelly:
Jite Okoloko

I think I need to read more about this man. He is a NED in my company, but I know little about him. I will try and lay my hand on his profile.

jaguda:
Emeka Anyaoku.

Emeka Anyaoku is not a player in corporate Nigeria. Ditto for Fashola and Senator Obi.

tboy1:
Bala Zakariya'u of Niger Insurance

I have known this insurance guru for a while now. Good choice, tboy.

Epiphany:
Among the older generation: Oba Otudeko, Subomi Balogun, Felix Ohiwerei, the Ibru brothers. These are the 'old school' guys who i would not mind being apprenticed to

Among the young guys: Tony Elumelu (with all the past rumours, changing regulations, his sharp practices and cowboy moves, he is still standing. Beats my imagination), Fola Adeola and Aig-Imoukhuede of Access Bank

Among the older generation, I also greatly admire Oba Otudeko and SB. These guys laid the foundation for what can now be called a booming corporate Nigeria. There was also this man, Femi Adekanye, then Chairman/CEO of the defunct Commerce bank, who I also looked up to in the early 1990s when becoming a banker used to be all I had in my head. Pitiably, the failed bank saga of the mid 1990s swept him and his bank.

Who is your role model in corporate Nigeria. I mean who among Nigeria's top CEOs and other company chiefs do you admire most and will like to be.

Mine is FOLA ADEOLA.

I also admire the following guys(Honourable mention):
-Wale Tinubu, Oando
-Sanusi Lamido, First bank


Can we know your own?

Last two weeks has been crazy maaaaan!!!!
A lot of tension around. especially my department
Had a ticking off from the office manager for a minor offence at work
Basically cracked a joke with a colleague and one of the married woman around didnt like it! Embarrassed
But it is all part of life experience so i have learnt from it, everyone around you could be laughing and singing your praises, but they go behind and knife u
Petty issue which should have been dealt with by my line manager within the team was spurned and instead got reported to the divisional office manager
I am a bit miffed to be honest because it wasnt a swear word or a derogatory or discriminatory comment, so i felt hard done by!
Good thing is, it was only a verbal warning for me and my mate, my job continues and my aim as well as my smarter objectives remains int

Crackles, I thought it's only on NL that you crack rib-breaking jokes. Your joke almost got you into yawa

Richy, oyb et al,
Nobody is denying the fact these guys romance with the people that have contributed to Nigeria's failure. Some people call it fronting, some say they are cronies of these bad leaders, and my good friend and colleague, oyb, has added 'proxies' to the long list of nouns/verbs/adjectives used to describe/call them.

But the fact remains that these guys have worked hard enough to be recognized by the Presidents. Could any President have used Aliko or Mike in the mid-eighties when they were just strugglers/starters? Why didn't IBB or OBJ use Chief Olorunkuse, a millionaire by his own right in my town?

The point I'm trying to point out is that when you are rich to certain extent, you can't help not romancing with the leaders(good or bad, but pitiably almost all are bad in Nigeria). But getting rich to the extent of being noticed/used by these people is no mean feat. These guys worked for their money. Mike and Aliko are particularly shrewd businessmen who made their monies by daring where people feared. IBB, OBJ and co did not make these guys, they only helped them after they had already reached a certain level. With tens of billions worth of investments in a country, if you don't romance with goverment. A single policy may make you lose billions and we can all imagine the number of people that directly or indirectly depend on these guys. Imagine an unforgiving person like OBJ asking to hide under Aliko or Mike for a business, they dare not reject it, of course because they will also make money, but equally importantly, because OBJ will revenge and make them suffer(remember what he did to Mike, just because he refused to join the transcorps stuff, which would have been a rival to his business).

So these guys deserve some praises, guys.

The suggestion is laughable. We admit the government is not doing their best, but to ask for refund of school fees because somebody cannot get job is ridiculous. How about the self-employed people? Was it government that got them job?

Pondering over where this thread had been all this while that I didn't come across it. Still pondering!

This is comparison abuse!

Sincerely, the topic of this thread is very funny!

[quote author=i_laugh link=topic=247966.msg3601468#msg3601468 date=1237166339]how many of these so called rich men has billions of dollars in bank loans dangling over their heads unpaid, both in their business name and on their name, and yet you list them here as tem richest people in Nigeria- remove their bank loans and you will see that they are not as rich as you are claiming here.[/quote]That has been done already. Rating bodies use networth, not grossworth. Their known liabilities have been removed from their known assets already.

Lagosboy:
The list is just the wishful imagination of the poster.

Cecila Ibru works for her husband and the ibru family.

Spot on. Her husband, Michael, who owns Oceanic and several other investments, is not known to have bequeathed all his wealth to her. His younger brothers-Alex,Felix,Donald,Goodie-and son-Oscar-are all rich on their own but definitely can't make top 10 in Nigeria, not to talk of Cecilia. The patriach,Michael, could have been debatable, but Cecilia, I totally disagree.

Some publication (may be City People, I cannot remember) about three years ago revealed Mike Adenuga (Jr.) to be wealthier than Dangote.

Nigerian celebrity magazines rate Mike ahead of Aliko, but Forbes has insisted Aliko is the richest Nigerian. Aliko himself has reportedly said he is even worth more than Forbes puts his wealth. The limitation of Forbes data is that only quoted stocks are considered.

By the way, can anyone please tell me why Jim Ovia is rated that high? Does he have more than Zenith, and lately Visafone?

I agree with this topic, at least as far as I know. There are a very few exception I know though.
Man U and Liverpool fans are the ones I respect most.

Other than Ife, I will take Lag over any other school in Nigeria.

Barka Jumuah