₦airaland Forum

jmaine: Oga Jason123 , as far as she keeps repeating the same lame junk while Rolling on the floor laughing her sorry arsss off . . .me go dey give am her remedy . .meanwhile how you dey my man . . .

ahf: Compare this to what Setraco is doing on East-West Road, after they systematically pushed Julius Berger out.

Kudos to LASG. More is still expected.

4th mainland bridge between Epe and Ikorodu would greatly alleviate the traffic on the 3rd Mainland bridge.
Partly concession it if need be, but run a lot of public forums to discuss the modalities and carry the people along.
(Someone please speak to fashola to initiate this, the FG wont be ready to do it)

" A man's work (good or bad) outlives he's actions ..... "

Thumbs up to the governors making a difference (even if they all have skeletons in their cupboards) .... Rivers, Edo, Lagos..... Thumbs Up...

Room for improvement still exists.

jigawatts: Dear GEJ, we are in the 4th republic..... U dis m0r0nic element .......
1st Republic = 1963 to 1966
2nd Republic = 1979 to 1983
3rd Republic = 1993
4th Republic = 1999 till date ........

Those of dat still believe in GEJ ....... Goodluck to u ooooo

uplawal: @alj harem, i know beaf to be religious and tribal bigot,i dnt really have time for people like that,nle bora,keeti?

ak47mann: beaf is not a tribalist,he is a hard core PDP man that's all,those pixs he posted to my knowledge i don't know how authentic it is but the apo ijaws in ondo state living in abject poverty and knowing that oil well reside in those slums is bad that's marginalization on the minorities in that state.I think is better for minorities to move back to SS region so that they can be treated equal

alj harem: dude he involved himself,

*Ileke-IdI:
2015 is getting closer.

Someone is in desperate need of getting allies for his master. Tried to discredit ACN, tried to discredit Aregbesola. . . . since those two didnt work out as much, why not just discredit a whole ethnic of people? . . . .But of course, it must appear as subliminal as can be. Since this aint about politics, why not play the sympathizer? shameless goat.

If Ilaje people are suffering this much, one can only assume that GEJ has eyes to see.

A few years ago, Beaf was only Isoko o, now he's also Itsekiri ( on a thread to deny the relationships between Yorubas and Itsekiri). . . . did you finally find your bilogical papa ni? It wouldn't surprise me if you suddenly find a distant grandpapa of yours in Bini.

*Ileke-IdI:
2015 is getting closer.

Someone is in desperate need of getting allies for his master. Tried to discredit ACN, tried to discredit Aregbesola. . . . since those two didnt work out as much, [size=18pt]why not just discredit a whole ethnic of people? . . . .But of course, it must appear as subliminal as can be. Since this aint about politics, why not play the sympathizer? shameless goat.

If Ilaje people are suffering this much, one can only assume that GEJ has eyes to see. [/size]

A few years ago, Beaf was only Isoko o, now he's also Itsekiri. . . . did you finally find your bilogical papa ni?

alj harem: what truth, yorubas and hausas are known to love hearing the truth. Are Igbos good with handling the truth ? Yes or No ?

LOL coming from an Okoro man

ak47mann: when someone says the truth,you brand the person a tribalist are you people like living in delusions?

ak47mann: when someone says the truth,you brand the person a tribalist are you people like living in delusions?

bayooooooo: Nairaland-Tribalism-Religion-Romance=zero

This is one of several threads that should simply be locked.

One day, as cyber laws are being developed, Nairaland will be sued for these pictures, being freely posted, that cast aspersion on human dignity.
I am yet to see where people debate Government policy here on Nairaland without resorting to tribalism and ethnic bashing. Where in Nigeria is developed? The whole country is one big village and jungle.

I served in Delta State that is now being presented as a developed state where poverty and slum do not exist, move freely from Ughelli to Patani to Bomadi to Burutu and cross over to Sagbama. The whole enclave is one big slum and interconnected enclave of impoverish villages. The first village I was posted to Angoloma, I had to travel over water for several minutes before getting there. It was an eyesore and I really felt for the people. That was when I started having faith in the so called Niger Delta Struggle. The water from the borehole was so full of heavy metals ions that it turned brown within minutes and was not good enough for cooking. That was a village in a local government where oil was being pumped and the money looted with reckless abandon. No electricity, as in the village was not connected to national grid, the school was nothing to write home about, they were just backward in every sense of it. That is in the present day Delta state.

Infact, if you move to Uzoro, and cross over to Ibo speaking part of delta, the misery rhyme gets louder. I don't even know there ll be a day someone will come and elevate delta to the deity among states. It's as backward as every other states in Nigeria.Should I give my first experience of the Isieleukwu axis where erosion has completely devastated a whole village, where I saw poverty walking on two legs? I remember those jungles I passed through during my endurance trek and openly and loudly wondered if such villages were known to exist to the state authorities. There was one chick from Canada that we use to move together who could not control her emotions and freely and uncontrollably wept.

Bottom line, there is no state in Nigeria where you can not see pictures of enduring poverty, where slums do not exist or where all that is available to tell is story of prosperity. You see intelligent people discussing my backyard better than your backyard, it's such a sorry stuff. let's move on, form pressure groups to change this country for better, let's put pressure on government to arrest the looters that make these types of slums to exist. That's within our reach.

Katsumoto: Are there no people from your dad or mum's village that can do with your pathetic assistance? Or is everyone from the two villages an Aliko or Adenuga?

Beaf: For those who do not know, there is contiguous Ilaje/Ijaw territory between Delta and Lagos.
The suffering of minorities must end.

The Ilaje-Itsekiri Youth Peace Alliance (IIYPA) [/b]has raised alarm over what it described as the ‘Ijaw Agenda’ via the intention of the Goodluck Jonathan administration to enslave the Ilaje and Itsekiri nations and the entire Yoruba country side with boundary with international waters to the “Ijaw people who have over the years never hidden their ambition to claim more territories”.

http://myondostate.com/w3/declaration-of-war-jonathans-contracting-maritime-security-to-ijaws-is-an-act-of-war-ilaje-itsekiri-youths-fire-warnings/

By Gabriel Enogholase
BENIN-Oba Erediauwa of Benin Kingdom has warned the Federal Government against ceding any part of his kingdom to the Ijaw who are clamouring for the creation of a new state out of the present Edo and Delta states.

http://www.thenigerianvoice.com/nvnews/71492/1/toru-ibe-state-creation-monarch-warns-against-cedi.html

THE BENIN-IBIBIO-ITSEKIRI & ILAJE ETHNIC NATIONALITIES OF SOUTH-SOUTH & SOUTH-WEST NIGERIA.

The Distinguished President of the senate,
The Senate of the federal Republic of Nigeria,
National Assembly Complex,
Abuja.

The Hon. Speaker,
House of Representatives,
National Assembly Complex,
Abuja.

IJAW DEMAND FOR TORU-EBE STATE: PROTEST AGAINST THE INCLUSION OF OUR TERRITORIES

We humbly make this Joint petition on behalf of our above-named ethnic nationalities.

1. we are aware that a few weeks ago, the ijaw ethnic nationality, our neighbor in the Niger Delta, submitted to you for the creation of Toru-ebe sate. We are sad to note that the propose state out rightly includes our homeland territories, and for this reason, we make this petition , strongly opposing the proposal, and stating our reasons. Also we attach our document tittled: Recreation of the Benin-Ibibio-Ilaje-Itsekiri Ethinc Nationalities to the Demand by Ijaw… for… Toru-Ebe state dated 18th November, 2009 which we forwarded to the conference of Ethnic Nationalities of the Niger Delta (CENND), stating our opposition and reasons to Ijaw Ntional Congress (INC).

2. We are anguished by this ijaw claim which amount to a betrayal of the stand of CENND, a betrayal of the measures of gratitude we have accorded INC in the liberation struggle, and a betrayal of our faith in the total ideological position of the Niger Delta nationalities. We concede to the ijaw their right to demand for states and local governments, but we, however, are unable to accept a situation whereby the Ijaw will proposed Toru-Ebe state, lands owned from time immemorial by Itsekiri, Benin & Ilaje are included without their boundaries delineated. Surely, the Ijaw ethnic nationality is by nomeans the only ethnic Nationality of the Niger Delta. Niger Delta is not synonymoux with Ijaw nationality.

3. What makes this vexatious claim most painful is the apparent Ijaw denial of the homelands of others in the Niger Delta; homelands with well-known natural/traditional/historical boundaries thet enabled the various nationalities to, horizontally, trade, inter-marry and promote other relations before the British imperial rule was imposed.

4. Historians, anthropologists, missionaries and geographers have over the centries recorded these various homelands, their sizes and locations. For example, all such authorities say of Benin Homeland as follows:

About 4000 square-mile Benin contry is bounded on the NW by Ondo, on the East by Urhobo/ Ukwani and on tne South by Warri. The western boundaries between ondo (Ilaje), Benin warri is defined in the boundary of 1904 in gazette No. 193 on page 128 of February 1937. The Benin Eweka dynasty from the 12th centuary AD has had 38 obas to date, and the preceding long ogiso dynasty dates beyond the Birth of Christ. All available West Africa maps from 17th century (include in the enclosed document) doned by French, Dutch & British etc show Benin Kingdom/Empire as a massive land area across present-day southern Nigeria. In 1980, ethnicities in Benin were 26%, including Ijaw who were just6%.

Warri homeland-maps, referred to above, also show warri close to Benin City, as trding centre, in those early days. Historians and early intelligent reports record their existence in their 1520 sq. mile country delinested by lat 5 20’ and 6N & long. 5-5’ and 54E, bounded on the North by Benin, Ondo (Ilaje) on the NW, Urhobo to the East and Ijaw to the south. It is recorded by several historians,including G. T. Stride and C. Ifeka at p.321 of their book, that: “The principal peoples of the Delta are the Itsekiri and the coastal dwelling sobo (Urhobo) in the west, the Ijo in the centre, the coastal Ibibio and he Efik of old Calabar who lives in the easten delta” in 1963, Itsekiri in warri represented 64%, Ijaw & 14% & others 21%, and their 19th Olu is on he throme. Today, they are about 400,000 to 450,000

Ijaw Homeland: Two vwry authoritative Ijaw writers have definitively described the trsditional Ijaw country/homeland. Prof. E. J. Alageo and Jasper Adaka Boro have located theor 6000 square-mile homwland within the central delta: “from the Forcados River to the Opobo River and upstream to the Niger tributaries of the Nun and Forcados Rivers.” (the Twelve-Day Revolution by Adaka Boro edited by tony Tebekaeme). And prof. Ade Ajayi writes: “Pereira… saw all the coast from the Forcados River to the Bonny River (Rio Real) occupied by Ijo –‘Jos’ – This Stretch of coat, does in fact, correspond to that curretly inhabited by the Ijo…”The same source had earlier said in the same paragraph, “Elmina became an important trading station on the Gold Coast To the east, he poutuguese governor of Elmina Pacheco Pereira, found that the Itsekiri and Urhobo of the Niger Delta were already living around the Forcados river about 1500…”(people &
Empires of west Africa in History by G. T. Stride & caroline Ifeka, with advice from prof. J. F. Ade Ajayi, p.22).

And significantly, the Ijaw themselves have, unequivocally, IN THEIR Queen of Britain, and copied the fed. Attorney-General and Minister so too they made treaties of trade and protection with Benin in 1892, Itsekiri in 1884 and 1894, etc. And the “Oil Rives protectorate” (which became “Niger coast protectorate”) became the trading zone for not only the Ijaw, but the Ibibio, Itsekiri, Benin and Ilaje and other neigbouring nationalities.

Ibibio Homeland covers the area in the extream south Estern corner of Nigeria bounded by Ijaw on the west; north-east by Imo state, north by Ekoi and on the east by cameroons and has coastline on the Atlantic stretching over 130km. Aseries of court of their boundaries. Ibibio, numbering about 4 million, are the third largest group after Yoruba and Ibo in southern Nigeria. Ijaw on their coast represent less than 3% of Akwa-Ibom.

Ilaje Homeland : with a population eatimately at about 70,000, Ilaje are believed to be the earliest Oduduwa children from Ule-Ife to have settled on the coast abutting a vast shoreline, bounded on the west by Ijabu, on the east by Benin, south-east by Itsekiri and on the north by Ikale and on the south by the Atlantic. The 10th olugbo, Oba Akereti, allowed the first Ijaw migrants to settle under price Omobegbe in his domain early in the 18th century. In 1980, Ugbo kimdom had ijaw population of 15%, others 3% and Ilaje 82%.

Migrations
There are authoritative records that Ijaw later moved both west-ward and east-ward from their homeland about early 18th century, P.C. Lioyd in the journal of African History iv. 2 (1963) p207-231 says: “the Ijoh coming from the southern delta, have moved as fishermen into the westherndelta area, extending northwards even ti the modern Yoruba town of Okitipupa”. Other sources confirming Ijaw movement to the neighboring homelands include:

Intelligence Report of 1938 by Lt. com S.E. Johnson (R.N) Age. District Officer;
Intelligence Report of 1938 on Ekhuan District by Mr. H. F. Marshall, District Officer
Another on Ilaje by R.J.M Curwen, District Officer in 1936
Prof. E.J. Alagoa, G. T. strke & C. Ifeka etc

In the course of these migration some Niger Deltans settled in one another’s homelands. Until recently, we had all lived happily among ourselves, respecting one another’s customs and traditions. The new expansionist agenda of our Ijaw brothers began early last decade, leading to a series of inter-ethnic crises between 1997 and 2003. this state creation proposal by the Ijaw to Forcefully claim our lands –the subject of this [petition-is part of this new agenda, and we reject it

As at today there are Isoko communities of Canaan, Trofani and Isoko have not sought to have Isoko kingdoms in Bayelsa, nor have they tried to excise them from baelsa. There are Urhobo communities of U duofori and odurubu in patani. We Burutu and Forcados, representing 16% and 17% respectively of the 1953 population figures of those towns, that have been wiped out during the crisis referred to above.

Pitfalss to avoid: we are a multi-ethnic and multi-cultural region, and there can’t be any cast-iron approach to make or mold us into a people. The failure of the manipulated willink Report to specifically underpin this verity has been its undoing.

Woodrow Wilson, the 28th U.S president proposed self-determination as a policy during world war Ito resolved the problems of the failed Russian, Austro-Hungarian & Ottoman Empires in Europe. His secretary of state, pondering the ambiguity of the term, wondered whether it applied to homelands, race or communities. It was not resolved until Adolf Hitler, twenty years on, misapplies the idea of dismemberment of, or exciting, German enclaves in foreign countries (homeland). In 1938, Hiltler imposed the Anschluss (i.e Germanization of Austria) aganst the peace treaty of 1919. in 1939 Britain and French signed the munich Agreement (appeasement policy) up her Sudetenland to ethnic Germans. And in 1936, Hitler attacked and seized Poland from Russia. Then the world war11!

Even, nearly 70 years after the war, the bitterness of Sudetenland Still lingers. Last year, the Czech Republic, the half of old Czechoslovakia (a sovereign state) that now inherits Sudetenland, refused initially to sign the Libson Treaty to avoid, apparently, strengthening the hands of the 3 million Germans that still remained there.

We think it was the dangerous Hitlerite approach to self-determination (i.e. grabbing other people’s territory) that sparked world war11 and its consequential humanitarian catastrophe. Our Ijaw brothers should not encourage that.

Conclusion

Benin, Ibibio, Ilaje and Itsekiri (and others) in the Niger Delta lived together for so long that, to us this new irredentism (i.e. expansionist agenda) is not only raw and strange but divisive. And we repeat, Ijaw cannot premise their existence in the Niger Delta on the denial of the existence of other neighbors. While they can request for the creation of state(s) in whatever name, we oppose inclusion of our lands.

Signed for and on behalf of the Benin-Ibibio-Ilaje & Itsekiri Ethnic Nationalities.

http://itsekiriforumabuja.org/index.php?option=com_content&task...



http://ihuanedo.ning.com/group/wazobiaisalienotnigeria/forum/topics/ijaws-of-delta-ondo-edo-demand-for-toru-ebe-state

Wily2wily: Call me anything you like, i have no problem with that, i am only thinking the way i can help one or two Ilaje kids

Beaf: For those who do not know, there is contiguous Ilaje/Ijaw territory between Delta and Lagos.
The suffering of minorities must end.

Oh shut up! Can you name these Ijaw territories Phuck hypocritical bigot!

PhysicsQED: If Bariga is in Lagos, how are they supposed to join Delta state to escape the so-called "apartheid"? I don't see what posting pictures of place in Lagos has to do with the argument that the supposedly oppressed Ilajes should be trying to join Delta state to receive better treatment. Maybe I'm missing something.

igbo boy: Enh? Tufiakwa

Chai Chineke ekwe kwala ihe ojoor.

Biko keep it within your people and related kins the Yorubas, we are tired of carrying the burden of changing the homo sapienic look of some ethnic people such as the Yorubas...everytime they want their child to look fine, so dey go and kolobi one igbo firl....mba we no gree again

Beaf: I personally like Igbo's, because they don't claim anybody that is not Igbo. We might never end up in the same country after break up, but they are very important political allies. More than that, we directly share borders from Abraka area down to Isoko areas.

On the other hand, those coming in to make id!otic claims on Deltans, because of oil will find a very tough, crippling and unrelentingly vicious response, because, we are small but mighty.

Even our Ilaje people are going nowhere. Bruv, tink am o! If you be Ilaje man, you go wan comot Delta go enter dat kain suffer life?
Ilaje's live good in Delta, they don't suffer the abyssmal fuckery we see in the pictures all over this thread.

O'boy, I just saw this part of your comment!

With the greatest respect to my Igbo brothers in the house, BEAF, if their is no Southern Nigeria or Bendel; that rubbish you put up there will not work. I just pity the people you keep deceiving! You share direct borders with them at Abraka to Isoko but you don't share borders with Yorubas from Akoko to Itsekiri/Ilaje areas?? Who do you think you are fooling

The Ilaje-Itsekiri Youth Peace Alliance (IIYPA) has raised alarm over what it described as the ‘Ijaw Agenda’ via the intention of the Goodluck Jonathan administration to enslave the Ilaje and Itsekiri nations and the entire Yoruba country side with boundary with international waters to the “Ijaw people who have over the years never hidden their ambition to claim more territories”.
President Goodluck Jonathan

Jonathan, accused of plan to take over southern Nigeria for his Ijaw clan

In a press statement sent by e-mail from Warri this morning to the Liberty Report, the alliance affirms that the motive of Jonathan who is an Ijaw is to position his clan to take over control of Southern Nigeria by force of arm. They claim that this is the strategic plan behind the taking over over of the nation’s maritime security from a neutral and better equipped force like the Nigerian Navy, that only recently took delivery of a flagship NNS Thunder from the United States, and handing over this important security duty to a historically ethnically biased entity like the company led by a former Ijaw militant.

According to the release signed by Dr. Olorunwa Ogunjemini and Mrs. Oritsegbubemi Akpata, president and secretary of the organization respectively “now it is crystal clear how Jonathan intends spending the N1.2t security budget. The money is not meant for the Nigerian’s armed forces or police. The money is meant to equip the Ijaw nations so that it can have the capacity to subdue other nations in Southern Nigeria.”

They added that “this is a fight for the survival of our people. We want you to help inform and alert the entire world that we know the plans of Goodluck Jonathan and the Izon nation. Help us alert the Olu of Warri, the Oni of Ife, Akinrutan Olugbo of Ugbo-Ilaje, Chief Olusegun Obasanjo, the Afenifere, Olu Falae, Pa J. O. S. Ayomike, Pa. Arije in Ondo, all Itsekiri Leaders of Thought, Chief Rita Lori-Ogbebor and others that we are peace lovers but that Jonathan should not think we are stupid.”

The release added that the “Ijaw people have over the years never hidden their ambition to claim more territories. We will resist this and it will lead to bloodshed”.

http://myondostate.com/w3/declaration-of-war-jonathans-contracting-maritime-security-to-ijaws-is-an-act-of-war-ilaje-itsekiri-youths-fire-warnings/

Toaskarity: thank you! I will definently marry from Niger delta, you guys heart are better than anyother part of nigeria

Beaf: I personally like Igbo's, because they don't claim anybody that is not Igbo. We might never end up in the same country after break up, but they are very important political allies. More than that, we directly share borders from Abraka area down to Isoko areas.

On the other hand, those coming in to make id!otic claims on Deltans, because of oil will find a very tough, crippling and unrelentingly vicious response, because, we are small but mighty.

Even our Ilaje people are going nowhere. Bruv, tink am o! If you be Ilaje man, you go wan comot Delta go enter dat kain suffer life?
Ilaje's live good in Delta, they don't suffer the abyssmal fuckery we see in the pictures all over this thread.

(C) In a conversation with Poloff on October 23, Daniel Reyenieju, of the Itsekiri National Youth Congress, did not confirm the specifics of this report, but did express frustration at the inability of the federal government to restore law and order in the riverine areas of the Delta. He showed equal frustration with the perceived ineptitude of the state government to address Itsekiri concerns in the region and accused Governor Ibori, an Urhobo with an Itsekiri mother, as siding with the Ijaw. Reyenieju also made an appeal for NGOs and donors such as the USG to provide aid to the Itsekiri internally displaced persons (IDP) currently living mainly in Sapele. He told Poloff, "No one discusses resettlement or going back home," and added, "We will go home peacefully, but if anyone accosts us, we will protect ourselves." When asked if the Itsekiri are forming alliances with the Ilaje or OPC, he commented that the Ilaje are Yoruba, and have their own interest [/b]in protecting themselves against Ijaw incursions. He dodged the question of OPC involvement in the region by saying, "If Yoruba were involved in the Delta, the Ijaw would be nowhere. But if the Yoruba decide to get involved, they will do it on their own."

http://www.cablegatesearch.net/cable.php?id=03LAGOS2193

http://cables.mrkva.eu/cable.php?id=10251

Toaskarity: I have also read where he wrote against igbos, IDK maybe he is igbo but your role im talking about, you
always play nuetral why not continue with it than putting fire, words like "why Igbos on nl dont caution you"
from you to wyilly can push the other tribe to now start talking trash to the other regard of retaliate(if asked). when you told him to respect himself is enough instead of going deep, you know here ppl that hates another group(cos they arent same) will use anything to defend his/her bias. see hating other ppl is natural and its not all about nigeria,its everywhere but it sucks when ppl that claim they dont hate will try to put in fire just like you try to do here, you even labell beaf Igbo, you know what that mean to the likes of bluetooth, he will use that opportunity to expose his bias by calling igbos names instead of tackling the issue. I dont even have to explain further to you cos you know best! you ve been here so long. leave such things to grow naturally as online bashing is than try to push others to attck the other!