₦airaland Forum

VeryWickedMan:
I'm ready but she will provide the riches for me.

I'm not sure a pastor will like to marry a very wicked man o!

arantess:
As in like he will take a pass for 3 months and fly down to train them as what?
In what capacity? Somebody under command?

😆

You go shock say na the Royal Armed Forces low-key send am.

Rahkman:
This amotekun are clowns.....dem carry napoleonic war guns to fight bandits wey dey carry ak 47

Better than nothing, though.....just ask them in Benue and Plateau.

DamnnNiggarr:

this is how it should be, and not a do or die affair.

Maximum respect to Angola for this singular act.

The best moment to be proud of Nigeria is during football season, which I am today.
Since football is the only thing left for Nigerians which still gives us joy, they shouldn't pollute it with political tribalism and bigotry.

How many of the players are home-based?

We are proud of our diasporean doctors, engineers, writers, actors, academics, IT professionals, athletes, pugilists and footballers.

Don't let any politician fool you.

These guys are playing well because they are trained and cared for by clubs in countries where things work

Lemme list some products of Nigeria so you can tell me the ones you're proud of:

Army
Police
TCN
Federal and state universities
NTA
NNPC
CBN
Supreme Court
Naira
Nigeria Air

Should I go on?

Nteogwuija:
The head of the church looked on as the church burned.

The members still won't use their brain at this point. They'll say God has a better plan for the church.

As if the church is a building.

Anyways, you don't understand.

Unfortunately, a lot of Christians don't, either.

Nazgul:
From that pairing, if we defeat Angola, we'll play the winner of South Africa vs Cape Verde in the Semi finals. Not bad if you ask me.

If Nigeria is serious we should win this tournament, most of the strong teams are already out .

The teams that knocked out the "strong" teams are stronger, Bro....don't get it twisted.

Make Super Eagles sha no sleep.

[quote author=chopnaira post=128207157][/quote]See dis human being.

So Nigeria cannot also produce more oil to satisfy her domestic needs?

Anyway, say goodbye to reduced fuel price.

Furniture shop people are notorious for setting their sawdust and wood shavings on fire......meanwhile those things can be like explosives during dry, hot periods like this.

bennybuhari:
Makinde should wake up. His performance in his second term is terrible

Yeah. It's terrible.

Someone resembling him was seen pouring petrol and lighting the fire sef.

I don't know how people think.

Originalsly:
I hear you. This is where the difference is between a true church ... and a business church. For them to be paid a salary.... I don't agree but ... in their situation the church should give them financial assistance to make it possible for them to help carry on the ministry and to sustain themselves. Isn't this the purpose of tithes and offerings?... to help those to carry out the ministry and help sustain the needy? I really don't think your wife should've been that ..... of her own free will ... if she feels like ... fine ... but that should be like tipping them.

Hmmmmm......music is a profession o. All these people whose music you listen to as a Christian....they get paid and they pay their instrumentalists o.

Inasmuch as music isn't a crime, it can be practised as a profession in Church, just like driving, secirity or secretarial services.

All I know is, getting paid as a Church musician is not a sin, and Churches who pay their musicians are not doing a wrong thing.

When I was a paid instrumentalist, the Pastor wanted to increase my salary to match those of the other pros who joined after me. I refused the increase. Just to let you know I'm not all about commercialising God-given talent.

The above being said, if a Church treats it's musicians as Professionals, they will get professional delivery, no more, no less.

I remember marveling at our praise sessions, sounding like studio work.

Since I've left playing with pros, I've never had such a level of music.

Originalsly:
Has nothing to do with the time or energy spent .... at least two people have commented here that they were instrumentalists .... OP and I think one like in charge of everything ... they didn't complain about time spent and all that ... they feel they were playing their part in the praise and worship... just like the singers and clappers.

Hmmmmm......okay.

Lemme agree with you.

It's just that I know how many young men I and my wife (who's a song leader) encounter who are good musicians, yet unemployed and struggling with poverty while the Church insists they play for free.

Sometimes my wife has to give them something out of her pocket so that they can transport themselves to a programme.

I also said I still.play but don't need the money anymore because I gotta job......not everyone's like me or the others who posted.

Originalsly:
Hmmm ... it depends. If the church is run as a business .... yes ... they make up the band and are therefore employees. If the church is run as a place of worship and praise ... then no ... they are also there worshipping and praising God. .... some singing ... some clapping stomping and dancing .... just that they praising using the instruments. Should the singers and clappers be paid too? ... I don't think so.
Now how do you know if the church is a business and should demand payment?.... if the pastor and family and inner circle is living larger than life off of the backs of church members.

In case you don't know, instrumentalists get to Church before everyone else, and they usually leave last, because they are also the technical crew guys.

You don't know the amount of work that goes into it, so don't compare them with people who just come to dance and clap. Those ones arrive church almost 2 hours after the instrumentalists and leave immediately after service unless den wan see Pastor.

reallifegospel:
Q&A: Should Church Music Instrumentalists be paid for their duties?

The controversy rages on about if or not, a music instrumentalist who plays for a Church (big or small) should be paid or not?

Church Instrumentalists are individuals who play music instruments during the worship services.
  Such music instruments includes the piano, drums, guitars, trumpet, violin, etc, etc
  Most Folks believe that if a Church is big and successful, they should try to financially support their instrumentalists.

   In some cases, the instrumentalists themselves demand that they should be compensated financially or paid salaries for their duties.
   Some instrumentalists claim that it takes a lot of sacrifices to be present and render their services to a church, especially if it's a mega church.
   Some instrumentalists down tools when the church over extended periods of time do not compensate them financially.

So the big question is,
Should a music instrumentalist be paid for the services he/she renders to the Church?

I'll answer both with my personal experience and with what was said recently by Pastor David Ibiyieome (The Bishop of Salvation Ministries Worldwide).

I was a drummer and keyboard player during my younger days.
  I played the music instruments for the church I was in at that time, I was always on time for church services and choir practice.
  I didn't do it like I was doing the Church a favour, I did it diligently with love and joy, and honestly back then, I indeed saw God move in great and mighty ways in my life.
  

I didn't tax or bill the Churches I was in back then to play the music instruments for them, I didn't act high handed act as if I was doing the Church a favour by playing the music instruments, I just showed up on time during choir practice days, and during church services and I served with joy and gladness.

  Occasionally, I'd get a few financial gifts here and there from some individuals, but I never had it in mind that I was collecting a salary or wage of some sort for my work and God is still blessing me till today for those services I rendered back then with joy and gladness.

Recently Pastor David Ibiyieome (the lead Pastor of Salvation Ministries Worldwide) made a statement that is worthy of note to all instrumentalists who insist that they must be paid for their services.

  Pastor David's statement is what I'll call the hard truth style of saying what I just stated or gave example about above.
  
I won't tell you that insisting you must be paid for playing music instruments for a Church will condemn you to a lifetime of penury without remedy, but I will tell you that if you play music instruments for a Church without insisting that you must be paid, GOD almighty himself will make sure you're rewarded, and God's rewards are larger, better and more long lasting than you can ever phantom.

Render your playing of music instruments as a service to God and do it with joy and gladness. You won't regret it.

I repeat, you won't regret it!

Remain Blessed!

Q&A is a platform that addresses a few controversial issues among Christians and within the Church.

All questions answered by
Apostle Constance C. Friday Ani.

Should pastors be paid?

I am an instrumentalist.

Right now, I'm not being paid to play, but when I was a student, I was paid, because I had to go for programmes 3 times a week and rehearsals once a week. I had to be at church earlier than most people to set up and do sound check with my keyboardist (now a producer of some modest amount of fame, but I digress).

The church was far from my home, and I had no reason to go that far and pay quite an amount for transport. My fellow instrumentalists were full-time musicians, the producer I mentioned earlier and a guitarist. All they did to feed and live was music. And they chose to do it in Church.

Make Church no pay. Clubs go pay.

Then you wonder why guys start in Church and end up in clubs.

Anyway, I don't need the church to pay me now, as I got a job. I'm also older now, my son plays and he plays for free because he doesn't need to earn money right now. He's still in his teens.

When he's older, I'll encourage him to get paid for his skills and develop himself.

Where are jobs right now in Nigeria?

Back to my first question, are pastors getting paid?

Of course!

So, why shouldn't instrumentalists who really need the money get paid as well?

If you don't need the money, no wahala.

However, if you need it to feed, clothe yourself, pay the rent and stuff, and the Church can pay, please they should.

Pastors, Church employees like secretaries, drivers and security guards are on salary, naa. Yet the instrumentalists are arguably more important than most paid employees except the ministers themselves.

Like I said, let the churches pay if the musicians need the money.

Even if they wanna use the Bible, the Levites were the musicians in the tabernacle and temple, and they also got their share of the tithes as they had no other inheritance in Israel.

In fact, the priests are picked out from among the Levites.

Numerouno94:
Hahahahahahahaha. I luv this nostalgic feeling. I remember Webo Wella. Those guys b like thugs then very black with extremely tight Jerseys. Na muscle them dey use then.

Chai!! Good old days. Nice to see a patriot who still has those memories..

Patrick Mboma
Pierre Webo
Geremi Njitap
Djemba Djemba
Samuel Eto'o Fils
Pius Ndiefi (that was one scary goon)
Rigobert Song (current coach)

Sonnobax15:

Why you no go ask rabbit why e dey only dey come outside for night?

Funny enough over 95% of Nigerian tenants have at one time or the other packed at night

The 2 times I've moved, I moved in the daytime.

I guess I'm.one of the 2 percent?

EreluRoz:
I'm sure as young as that boy was, he was already having dirty thoughts towards her else he would have gone to someone else and not his co flower girl.

Those that married their agemate try sha, it can never be me. If you are less than ten years my senior, I'll forever see you as a small boy 😆

Well done.

Keep being sure.

Meanwhile they're married. That one's for sure, and your sureness about their childhood thoughts notwithstanding.

nairavsdollars:
At this level, if Amotekun is not careful, these bandits will start kidnapping them too ooo

Lagos refused to join other states on the Amotekun initiative.

Deogratiasfx:
Don't be surprised same CIV Morocco helped would later knock Morocco out and eventually win the trophy.
2002 World cup, Brazil sneaked in like this and won the cup.
Just the last AFCON here, Super Eagles Flew to the round of 16 in style but was knocked out by Tunisia who struggled to qualify as one of best third.

How many times has the "best loser" won the cup before?

I'm not arguing, I don't know ni o.

Malroux:
It is no longer Chinaza Philips abi?

Isn't it obvious?

The name provided is Bello Mohammed! Did anyone say it's Chinaza?

Anyway, Chinaza sef is not a kidnapper, but a gentle, honest armed robber ( ) quietly making a living via his preferred hustle.

Islie:
https://www.thecable.ng/full-list-lagos-beats-dubai-miami-ranked-19th-out-of-50-best-cities-in-2024/amp

E be like say Miami light sef dey off pass Lagos own and their Agbero dey collect house rent.

Chai!

Testiebobo:
Now that petrol is 650per litter, in my family we no longer use our car anyhow anyday, our car is on vacation. To pop your bubbles we made a family roster on when to use the car. See below;
\MON\ unavailable
\TUE\ AVAILABLE (bible study in church, due to its far distance)
\WED\ unavailable( hour of favour, but in a nearby church\
\THUR\ unavailable( prayer meeting in church) use keke or okada or legs for transportation
\FRI\ unavailable
\SAT\ unavailable
\SUN\ AVAILABLE(sunday service)
In this tinubulation era, our car is on vacation and holiday by force by fire. The car cannot come and be enjoying money than the entire family.

Our car is now only for school runs and Sunday Service.

Ozommadu:
Is that the way forward?? How many people will be out of business in the long run?

Other things that there prices are going up nko? You go don buy car to avoid high tfare and even build university for your children to avoid high tuition fee

Well, I have a car, though I'm yet to build a Uni. Rest assured sha, If I build one, my kids will go there for free.

Lemme sha tell you, since people cook for themselves and restaurants have not gone out if business, leave those of us who cut our hair jejely, biko.

Ozommadu:
There seems to be no end in sight to the incessant increase in the cost of virtually everything in Nigeria, from transportation cost, housing, food and worst redundant Salary.

Imagine taken your nephews or children to have a nice hair cut which was #100 four years ago, #150 two years ago and #200 just last year before Christmas. Only to see that the haircut you'll still return to in max 3weeks is now #400.

How do Average Nigerians survive? Those with four to six children? Those on minimum wage

Yet people who were vocal in the past years against inflation and bad government has gone mute. What is really happening in Nigeria.

Have Nigerians adapted to surviving and just taking anything from the people they voted in power

Abeg oo fellow nairalanders with family and kids, how una dey do am No be to go learn this thing?

I cut my hair and my sons' hair myself.

Have done so for years.

Eteka1:
Watch the video here.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fqCGT-vrdlY?si=nUmOVlYGQ32tX2IG

Let Senate invite you make you talk say you no dey go.

Mandela27:
Lolss..u tryna defend Africa or what?hope u read what I wrote very well?
Not like other continents are not violent,but we are naturally worst

Really?

The US of A carries the cake on the violence topic, sha.

Mandela27:
Africans are naturally wired to be very violent

Yeah, right?

See the world of damage they've done in Ukraine and Gaza!

brain54:
"They used our taxes to pay them..."

Someone shouted "f**ls"

LOL!

Football and religion can really make people emotional.

If super eagles keep playing they
way they are... Especially missing goal changes and not taking opportunities they should...

... Then they will be next!

Bruh.

You won't even know when they will disappear.

EducasionMe:
Who was goes to read this long story

Those who can and have the time and interest to read it.

princemillla:
You sure wahala fit finish for this world like this

But on a serious note, could she be a back up if the bride doesnt show up??

Looks like she's there with her own groom, naa.....the guy in the suit beside her?

I'm sure she just wed the same day and rushed over to witness the other one.

Some weddings these days just share food and souvenirs and receive their gifts outside the wedding venue, so maybe they didn't have a full reception.

Paraman:
They are lucky they were not raped.the bandits mad gan. They do fvvck their victims anuus sef and they do fvvvck cows.

They weren't raped, but their sister and uncle were killed.

HRMK:
IS WIKE THE ONE TO PROTECT FCT OR THE SECURITY FORCES?IS IRETI KINGIBE RIGHT IN COTACTING WIKE THROUGH WRITING OR MESSAGES AND NOT PHYSICAL MEETINGS?IS SHE NOT PART OF THE VIPS SHE IS COMPLAINING ABOUT?THIS IS NO TIME TO BE SHIFTING BLAMES!ITS TIME TO TAKE APPROPRIATE AND DECISIVE ACTION!!

She's a part of the LEGISLATURE. Wike is the CHIEF EXECUTIVE of the FCT.

He takes action. She and her colleagues are supposed to have oversight powers on his actions.

Checks and balances.

She's trying to do what she's supposed to do.

The problem is, Wike thinks he's still a governor, while he's nothing but an APPOINTEE of BULABAA.

DrChukki:
I hope this insecurity is not a strategy they want to use to remove Wike?

I'm not Wike fan, but since some people think Abuja is their right, then I supported Wike appointment

It started when Wike was still in PH, Bro.