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And where is this written as law?

Image123: Belief in Jesus Christ is the ONLY condition required by God for salvation. Others like satan, fellow nlanders, pastiors may require more or less.
FACT.

But your father and you exist. That is a proof right there.

vb0mb: Did my great-great-great grand father exist? I dont know because there is no written record about him.
@op, hw ar u sure u are existing?

Obviously, according to the said pastor, women are not part of "them". Everybody is equal in the eyes of the lord. Everybody but women, apparently.

Omo Alata: Who are the 'others'

Dey dia dey mugu yasef. Wetin black man fit rule? You want to live in anarchy? Ode.

obadiah777: NAH WE WANT WW3 TO HAPPEN REAL QUICK BECAUSE THAT SIGNIFIES THE END OF THE WHITE MANS RULE ON EARTH. ITS BACK TO THE BLACK MAN AFTER THAT.

LOL! This is crazy hilarious funny.

These christians are actually willing WW3 to break out just for the prophecies in that vile book they carry about come true and prove them right. Insanity on the lose big time.

Well, if your god can't manage to love his own enemy(even he having an enemy is an embarrassment to his supposed lofty devine status), why should you? Are you better than your god? Of course you are not.

stepo707: Matt 5:44 But I say to you, love your enemies, bless those who curse you, do good to those who hate you.

It happens that satan happens to be our enemy.So guys what do you think?

Yeah, right.

Christianity is already a discriminating religion. Just look at the theology itself and the deity being worshiped. The fact that there were no angels of other races and skin color in "heaven" presented by religion; the fact that bible god himself never reveal himself directly to black africans and had to do it via white missionaries; the fact that he stood back and watch whites take black Africans into slavery and other forms of bondage; the fact that he is the god of a jewish nation as declared by the bible OT; etc, etc.

Ofcourse you can ignore all that and pretend that they do not exist all in the name of FAITH. No discrimination my foot.

Lol! What a question!

tobechi20: Do u think that science is more accurate than bible?

Miracles for sale.Why not?

Most probably raptured, your holy book. The alternative reason for the disappearance is a blasphemy, obviously.

Kirinwa: During call for first timers I unwittingly left my Bible on my chair for the altar.After that we were taken to a room and after giving us forms to fill I came back. LO AND BEHOLD MY BIBLE INCLUDING JOTTER WAS GONE!!

Carl Carlton is your lord, then. Cool. Is he still alive, btw?

It takes wisdom to explain what appears jumbled up. Give that a thought.

miredia: @frosbel, silence isn't that difficult afterall. It takes wisdom to withold words and emotions. Give it a thought.

I do not practice anything from the bible. Sabbath is only for the jews. It is not for Africans.

plappville: Do you obey practice the ten commandments? Please tell me where it says the Sabbath is for the Jews only.

Why do i always mix the two men up. I wonder.

CrazyMan: Actually ia Oyedepo not Adeboye...and I agree with you, Nigeria is truly a lawless society otherwise is see no reason why Oyedepo should still be allowed to conduct services...he ought to pay for his actions.

But in public? Even if he was going to deliver the girl in such manner, why not in privacy of his practice like they usually do? Anyway, assault is assault and the man should be financially punished, severely.

abproffy: Ɣ☺ΰ see the pastor is a specialist in spiritual matters, perhaps slapping the girl was the only to free her of her unclean spirit

There is no rationale in christian doctrine and that is why it is a religion... no, that is why it is christianity. And that is also why obadiah has been floundering all the while with his replies. He can't explain what his religious beliefs entails because he does not understand them himself. And neither does he, as his fellow christian brethrens, have to understand them because. They just simply worship. Obadiah does not have to understand what he worships or why he has to worship... he just worships like a robotic zombie. That is all that is required of him, so go easy on him, bro.

crosbreaka: Would Jonathan kill himself or his son or even resign so that a bunch of 'good men' who have minor mistakes can rule nigeria with him? What's the rationale behind such action?

I didn't know that there are so many naija jews on NL. Or are they just jews wannabees because only jews should be observing sabath and no one else with the exception of those who enjoy living out fake existence.

Are you for real? Just because the girl went to the pastor's church does not give him the right to physically assault her, especially so publicly. Moreover, what is Nigeria as a country? A country of barbarians?

abproffy: My bro just as Ɣ☺ΰ have said, in the civilised country.
But na naija we dey, wetin the girl find go the pastor church.

Hadn't Jesus done his bit before and failed? Isn't that what this little excerpt from the OP clearly shows? What makes you think Jesus can achieve this time around with his message, what he couldn't the last time he was here?[quote author=Mr_Anony]True talk, We need Jesus indeed. He is the only way forward.[/quote]

Lol! Very convenient excuse of inability to explain away the foolishness of the christian doctrine, this. Christianity has nothing, and i mean, absolutely nothing to do with spirituality.

miredia: I spent several hours scrolling down pages to pages and made a critical observation of a trend where folks try to use their physical cognition in deciphering things of the spirit. Folks it will never EVER add up to you. These transcends just being academically saavy or being an impeccable philosopher. The things of the spirit are totally different fron the physical. There are laws that govern the spirit and the physical.

With a dirty slap in the glare of the public? You don't see anything wrong with that? In any civilized country, pastor Adeboye would be facing a huge pay out to the girl right now.

abproffy: I came across this now, plz what is our world turning into.
Did pastor make any mistake in trying to deliver the girl from witches.

www.ogamayor..com/2012/09/bishop-oyedepos-slapping-case-goes-to.html?m=1

How can you change the world when you haven't even changed yourselves? Sick unsane people who are trying to cure a sick unsane world. How would that work? You wanna change the world, you gotta change yourselves first. You cure yourselves first. You have not even begin to do that. You think by carrying bible all about gives you the qualification to change the world? It doesn't. Christians have been in this world for about 2 millenia and the world is still sinking in chaos. Have you ever asked yourself why?

Encoredme: As Christians we r supposed to change the world and make it better,starting from our neighborhoods.the Boko Haram problem for example should be looked into by the church and a solution should be put into action to deal with it. The goverment can only do so much.

1) Love never asks for worship of itself.

2) Love never asks for praise of itself.

3) Love always gives without expecting anything in return, and i mean, anything.

Oh really? You are one of the biggest sufferers of willfull ignorance on NR religion forum, if you must know. You can't know this because this "sickness" extends to you not knowing that you suffer under it, too. [quote author=Mr_Anony]Not all of us. I can't speak for myself but I like to think I am not[/quote]

Guilty of that, aren't we all? You included.[quote author=Mr_Anony]Wow, ever heard of something called willful ignorance?[/quote]

If only Christians and Muslims can learn from that. This world would be a much better place to live in. The city of Jos would definitely benefit.

JeSoul: Lol, okay oh, no wahala. Indeed a person's beliefs are of no consequence to anyone but himself/herself.

I usually close my ears to what does not make sense to me. If you know that what you are going to say is senseless, then you might as well keep it to yourself. You do know that Christian ideas are full of senselessness and that's why a healthy dose of faith of the blind type is needed to swallow them. [quote author=Mr_Anony]Not so. I just don't see the sense in trying to get you to understand what you have already closed your ears to[/quote]

Because it makes more sense to me. That's why.

JeSoul: So what then seperates or makes your belief more credible than that of the christian?

You've just chickened out because you know fully well that your own spin on it won't bring any clarification whatsoever. Never mind, anony. [quote author=Mr_Anony]The phrase in red is the reason why I won't bother explaining anything to you. My words will be wasted upon you. If you get it, you get it. If you don't get it, that's just too bad.[/quote]

Explain it to me,then. Even though, to me, sin is sin whether it is original or not. They are all the same to me. I am sure there will be nothing new about your explanation for i would have heard it many times before, but explain away, anony. Let me hear your own spin on why original sin should be seen differently.[quote author=Mr_Anony]I think you are referring to "original sin". If that is true, then I'm afraid you don't know what original sin is all about. If you are willing, I'll try and explain. If you've already dug ur heels into ur bias then I'm sorry I can't help u.[/quote]And while you are at it, explain how dying for another person cleans that person's sin away. Remember that that is one of the dumbest teachings of many dumb teachings in christianity.

Living ethically and morally minus religion has been done for millenia and is still being done today... at this very moment, even.

femmy2010: Just wondering if a man can live ethically and morally without the guidance of religion?