Early morning praise to Obatala Obataasha.

The thread isn't any of those things you called it. Besides, the posts are only tongue in cheek in their message which is; there are many gods in this world and they all deserve to be praised even if a lot of them have to be invented by the posters.

Moreover, if there can be a thread praising the christian god (and even made a sticky), then definitely, the same can be done for the other gods. Fairness should be the other of the day here.

Deep Sight:
This has to be one of the most foolish threads ever created on this forum. Mindlessly and hopelessly shallow and purposeless.

And what is life without knowledge, though? Life is worth nothing without knowledge. Which is why sentient beings have minds and inquisitiveness in their genes.

Uyi Iredia:
III) That good and evil are useless where there's no life (or existence). And that what really matters is life. Hence life is preferable to knowledge whether such knowledge amounts to good or evil. Dead people generally can't complain about evil only the living who witnesses. Hope you notice that God can be apathetic to good or evil as seen when He destroyed lots of Israelites for infringing on His laws or struck a man dead for the innocent act of trying to uphold the ark.

. . . More to come

This morning, i offer praise to the great VISHNU of the hindu people.

Wonderful work through his people like... causing genocide of innocent folks? Now, that's a wonderful work, indeed. You'd be better off worshiping the devil himself, tbh.

Ayomivic:
From bible, God speak with Abraham, Moses, Jesus and did wonderful work through his people. You too know of these.

Sometimes, one has to wonder about the sanity of some of these christians judging from the things they have come to accept as truth.

logicboy:



Legitimate laws? You support the murder of gay people? You support the murder of people accused of witchcraft? You support slavery?


Those laws were legitimate?


How can those laws be good in any civilization, past, present or future?

Ah, ok! Apologies there. I thought you were going on a racist trip with your loving god there. It was just that the way you formulated your words was truly bad.

Anyway, nothing has changed about the way i see your crazy god. If only he was chronicled in your bible as much nicer and wiser and cleverer in his deeds, he would have served you a whole lot better in debates like this one.

Image123:
pathetic and not well thought as is your custom, ever heard of 'human race' it you only live to play the injured card?

All forms of religions and schools of thought but with the exception of islam. You were the ones who broke off from this section without anyone forcing you to, so you are not entitled to post in here.

al-ahamad:


Its a religious section and so all forms of religion can come on board....

Am not in the mood cos the above topic is serious and has got me worried so for that, I'll let u be....

Why are you here? Don't you have your own section? We don't want islamists opening threads in here. Besides, have you heard of Boko Haram? They are not exactly a christian loving "group".

Go back to your section, please. Thank you.

I am sure there are more humane yet effective ways of achieving the same results, uyi. I am shocked that you can approve and sanction such barbarism and yet talk about a loving and all wise deity. Ugh!

Uyi Iredia:

Those were legitimate laws meant to bring order & structure to a budding community. The law has played its role and has subsequently evolved as the relationship between humans and their collective understanding of God evolved. Your rant doesn't at all harm the integrity of those laws. Funny thing is, if you read the Bible closely_I'm rest assured you don't_you'll find out that most of the timed these laws were subverted through bribery or plain slack.

Sounds more like the deranged ramblings of a lunatic tyrant, buzee. Which looney tune deity said all that? Wait! don't tell me! Let me guess...the one in the OT part of the bible, right?

buzugee: http://www.informationnigeria.org/2012/06/dana-plane-crash-chinese-men-who-cheated-us-on-queue-made-fun-of-me-daughter.html

so everybody on that dana flight was not redeemable. the redeemable ones, the lord made sure they did not get on that flight. this is the second case i have heard were the lord directed someones steps away from the dana flight.

proverbs 20 vs 24 A man's steps are from the Lord

deuteronomy 32 vs 39[b] There is no god besides me. I put to death and I bring to life, I have wounded and I will heal, and no one can deliver out of my hand.[/b]

1 samuel 2 vs 6 The LORD brings death and makes alive;

amos 3 vs 6[b] When disaster comes to a city, has not the LORD caused it?[/b]

lamentations 3 vs 38 Does not the Most High send both calamity and good?

Forget pastor worshiping or God worshiping from Nigerians, all they ever worship are their own needs. They believe that religions give them Gods remote control that they can use to command "him" to serve them all their needs.

The pastors, on their part, knows this for a fact and they play on it. The God remote control isn't cheap and whoever wants it have to pay for it.The pastors pretend they have it, they convince the gullibles of that, the needy gullibles buy it and they end up paying for it through their noses... permanently.

At the end of the day, the pastors laugh all the way to the bank. That is the ying and yang of the modern Nigerian Christiandom of today. Nothing more, nothing less.

ZUBY77: I may be wrong in generalizing but the higher percentage of Nigerians worship their pastors, self ordained bishops and prophets. Each time i drive past a Christ embassy church, i see a giant picture of Chris Oyakhilome mounted in the Church sign post. I thought this was supposed to be if he has a crusade or something. Why would i go to a church where the pastors image replaced that of Jesus Christ? We are really doomed here.

My friend,"he" is not the creator and "he" does not make the rules. He has no right to punish any sinner because he is a bigger sinner than any human that ever existed.

You can claim "he" is your god, but remember that you are only as righteous as the deity you choose to worship. If your god is evil, so will you be evil.

Mr_Anony:

My friend, you can throw in all the insults you like and call God all the names you like but if He is Creator and He makes the rules, then He has every right to punish sinners and reward the righteous. The best you can do is claim that he is not your God but mind you whatever creator god you choose must also have the same rights. This you cannot deny this.

I would. I have no problem with that.

Logic Mind: Just wondering with naija girls mentality if a very good, rich, loving, handsome, intelligent, educated fellow fell madly in love with you and you with him but you realise he doesn't believe in any god. Will you still marry him if he proposes?

What was that? My race? You mean, the black race? That sounds rather racist, bro. But that wouldn't surprise me if your god is also a racist deity who sees the black race as an afterthought he can "invite" to his stupid kingdom.

Image123:
folly should not be so dignified jenwit, God has myriads of uncountable angelis, He only shows your race a huge favour by extending an hand of invitation into His kingdom.

Much appreciate the big ups, bro.

Observer2: Jinwitemi and my friend cyrexx.... You guys are doing humanity lots of good! All dogmas that has been holdn humanity down must give way. Keep up the good works guys.

But you still haven't grasp where i am coming from, yet. I make a distinction between that jack arse you jokingly called the lord in the bible and the CREATOR GOD whose presence is felt in the entire universe.If you are referring to the former(the bible god) as GOD, then i do not agree he is greater than me or any other human for that matter. As a matter of fact, he is way below a normal, decent human being.

But if you are referring to the latter (the UNIVERSAL CREATOR), then i will agree with you that i have no right to judge simply because there is nothing to judge. The CREATOR GOD does not go on a killing spree like that fake god on the pages of the bible was doing. heck, even his own chosen people, the israelites, hated his guts and were always eager to rid themselves of him. it is all in the bible. Catch my drift?

Mr_Anony:

Good at least it seems you are now beginning to understand where I am coming from. God is greater than you God does not need you to exist, you need God. Just as we may have rights over a chicken, God has by far more rights over you. The second part is this God made you from nothing. Everything you know was made by God including the morality you have. Now God hates sin and punishes sin much like the law punishes lawbreakers. When the law punishes a criminal, it bears no guilt but when you punish a criminal by yourself, you bear guilt. To truly judge God, you must first see from God's point of view. But you can't. Grasp that!

What?! Are we still living in the 60s? You don't have to be a hippie to have peace messages, dude. All you need is to be more evolved in your consciousness to realize that harmony, peace and love is the ultimate goal of any sentient living being like we humans in this universe.

logicboy:


I always had a hunch that you were one of those hippies with peace messages

Thank you, bro. Need to hammer some sense into this christian whose way of thinking is totally weird and off track.

cyrexx:


Jenwitemi, another 3 gbosas for you.

GBOSA !
GBOSA !!
GBOSA !!!

Trying to sound superior by the use of words was never my intention, bro.

Mr_Anony:

Using English words to imply superior knowledge (.......and yes I have only just been introduced to the word thanks for that by the way)

And hwere did i say they don't have one?

Mr_Anony:
How do you know for sure that an ant or a goat or a chicken has no consciousness?

That is not the sentience i had in mind. The consciousness that they possess is quite different from that of humans, being that they are not capable of independent and abstract thoughts like humans are. Animals can't debate about a god like we are doing now, can they? If you know of some animals who care about who made them so much that they have the desire to worship that creator, then please mention.

Mr_Anony:
It is funny how you can declare that other animals are not "sentient" simply because you cannot see from it's point of view and refuse to see from it's point of view just so that what you have been shouting ever since can remain right. Whether animals can judge or not is up for debate. The point is that animals do not take kindly to being killed and yet we kill them. Does this make us detestable, psychopaths, murderers, tyrants?

Imagine you were a chicken and human beings "mindlessly" killed you and your kind all the time. Of course Humans will be evil as far as you are concerned. but from the point of view of a human being, a chicken does not have the right to call a man to judgement period.

Human beings who are vegetarians would think about other humans who eat meat as such, yes.

Mr_Anony:
Whether animals can judge or not is up for debate. The point is that animals do not take kindly to being killed and yet we kill them. Does this make us detestable, psychopaths, murderers, tyrants?

So, what you are saying is that your god sees us as chickens or goats he can mindlessly kill for food any time he chooses? If that is the case, he is no better than us human meat eaters, is he? If he is no better than us humans, why worship and revere him? He is just as flawed as the rest of us, so...

Anyway, if a chicken can judge us to our faces (which it can't because it can't talk) for killing it's kind, then it should. It definitely has the right to. Maybe then we would all realize our errors of killing chickens for food and all switch to being vegetarians. But the right to judge us, they defo have. But, unfortunately for a chicken, or a goat, or a pig, they can't exercise this right because they can't talk to us. But we humans can talk, therefore we have the right to judge a wicked deity for it's cruelty to us humans. We can judge "him" to his face because of that ability to talk and express openly our feelings. That is our sentience. That is why we can judge his sorry butt. Another reason why we can judge him is because we keep him in existence. Without us, your god would be gone in a puff of smoke. Grasp that.

Mr_Anony:
Imagine you were a chicken and human beings "mindlessly" killed you and your kind all the time. Of course Humans will be evil as far as you are concerned. but from the point of view of a human being, a chicken does not have the right to call a man to judgement period.

Exactly. This is what i believe in.

logicboy:


"many paths, one destination".

Dude, what can i say about your thinking? An ant can't judge me because it is not sentient enough to judge. An ant can only do deeds to enable it's survival. Do you even know what a "sentient" being is? Check your dicho for reference, please.

The gap between an ant and a human being is vastly greater than the gap between human beings and your fake jewish deity whose flaws only make him more "human" than a god. Grasp that, will you.

Your god, which is the bible god, is as flawed as any human being, thus not worthy of any kind of reverence. Is there any wonder why Lucifer wanted to overthrow him? If he deserves any reverence, he would get it in abundance from everyone, humans and angels alike.

But like i have told you in my previous post, i do not see your god as the CREATOR of the universe. He is not fit to be one, period. His flaws are just too overwhelming to be a creator of anything.

Mr_Anony:

Dude, I have only tried to use beings you are superior to show you how you might look to a being superior to you. Until you accept that a creature such as an ant can call you to judgement then you don't really have any justification in questioning the morality of a being much higher than yourself.
You cannot tell someone that he cannot do whatever he likes with something he made for his own pleasure except it is not his in the first place.

By the way, perhaps you may want to tell us about this creator of yours. Please indulge us will you?

Nyameke, they already have come to this realization much longer back than you can imagine. They just aren't telling folks like logicboy because, as you can see, they are not ready for it, so they leave them with the 1920s scientific data to play around with. The science community is so far ahead of the data available to these atheists that it isn't even funny.

nyameke: When the scientific community begins to realise and gets to this truth people will begin to see the harmony between religion and science..

Actually, nyameke, i am not an atheist. So, kindly count me out of the atheist population of nairaland, please.

The EGO was already incorporated into religions and that was what gave the Abrahamic religions, at least, their henotheistic nature; my god is better than yours and that sort of thing. That is EGO. So to say that religions have no ego on their own is a complete folly.

Look at the deities the 3 Abrahamic faiths worship and tell me again whether there is no ego in religion without man. The scriptural texts of these 3 faiths alone oozes with extreme divine EGOISM.

Humans may already have had EGO in them, but having come in contact with religions bulging with the same EGO, but only now in extreme form, only makes the EGO in man to be magnified many folds.

Uyi Iredia: You had better expand on this ego a bit. It would be better you attribute this ego STRICTLY to man and not religion. Man taints religion with ego. I wish I could discuss with you on how the Christian God is precisely the source of the immortal YOU. Your first mistake is assuming the Christian God is illegitimate because of His ego & capacity for evil. Your second mistake is in not realising that your immortal self is born but never dies. This is by virtue of the fact that you realise your immortal self. God OTOH by His very nature is immortal and is the one that was never born and will never die by virtue of the fact that His (or its) existence is infinite.

Ach! May i add, centaurs, mermaids, titans, unicorns, cyclops and elves. All real creatures of the ancient past.

Martian:

I rest my case.
I wish to add Vampires, werewolves, shapeshifters, wizards, warlocks,maenads, and Fairies.

Thank you, and good night!

Tsk tsk tsk. The topic of aliens sure pisses you off, doesn't it. I just wonder why. Are you in the know, by any chance? Perhaps you are angry that i am letting the lid off on sensitive data you don't want Nigerians to know, perhaps? Your reactions to this topic are certainly suspicious enough to raise eyebrows.

Martian:

Says the fool who believes in David Icke's reptilians.
dumb a$$ spoof who thinks he lives in a "3D simulated holographic universe".
F#cktard who posted a thread about Saturn being the earth's "star"

David Icke is a great man, martian. And the REPTILIANS are just one of many alien factions operating here on this planet. They are definitely not the only ones. There are others like, the GREYS, the NORDICS and the MANTIDS. Those are just the 4 main types known, but not the only ones.

Martian:

Says the fool who believes in David Icke's reptilians.

Of course i am. Only not as ignorant as you are.

Martian:

You're just too ignorant.

Some people just can't handle the truth, can they?

Martian:

Oh, shut up!

Paranoid? No no no,martian! I love paradigm shifts. It is exciting data to me. But you can call me whatever you wish if it helps keep you in your comfort zone.

Martian:

You sound paranoid. "mainstream media", "reptilians", "ancient aliens". You are crazy. F#ck this. lmao

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