A christian goes to church, carries bible about, profess his/her love and worship of Jesus christ and awaits his return, believes Jesus died for the sin of mankind and arose on the third day to become christ. What else is there to know? What else have i missed?

A religionist is, most times, religious. And that is what all christians are, RELIGIOUS. And the last time i looked, religious folks(eg. christians) have RELIGION like christianity which is, itself, a religion.

FXKing2012:

What is Christianity and who is a Christian. How can you know what Christianity really is when u are not one? A Christian is telling you Christianity is a relationship, and u are there arguing when u are not even one. Does that not show u are the delusional one.

Quit the persecution talk, will you. It is old, already. Come up with something new and fresh.

toba: Always Jumping into conclusion just to show ur hatred for Christians. Define a Religion and i'll prove to u that many Christians will not fit into your definition

A christian is a religionist, dude. And christianity is very much a religion, no matter how much folks like you would love to think otherwise. Christianity has been a religion for the last two thousand years and you come along thinking you can change that? Delusion.

FXKing2012:

I'm no religionist, I'm a Christian. What folks like u will never understand is that Christianity is not a religion, it's a relationship. But of course, I dont expect u to understand.

Hey, cyrexx. Thanks for asking after moi. Been working on some personal project of mine that took my appetite of contribution briefly away. But i am back now. How body?

cyrexx: Sir Jenwitemi,
where have you been.
Its been weeks we've heard from you. I really miss you and your insightful posts.
I hope all is well.
Take care.

Like i said... religionists like him can't do without atheists.

cyrexx: Abeg, see me see trouble o.
Not long ago in another thread, the same mumuking vows not to bother with atheists anymore after he and his new babe rains a lot of insults and curses on atheists.
Now see what he is doing here, even calls them out by names.
Na wa for this confused king of mumurity o.

He is not only confused but delusively and hopelessly confused beyond repair.
It is only those who have spare time and bandwidth to waste that should take him serious.

Today, i am blaming that jewish bloodthirsty desert butcher deity called, yahweh, for not upholding his own set standards, and thereby, inflicting us humans with his madness. War all over the planet...

Body dey kampe, my broda. I just decided to stay in ROMland for a while. But i am always around, as usual.

cyrexx:


@jenwitemi, how u dey, long time no see.

You bother about them because you can't do without them. Simples.

FXKing2012: Why do we even bother trying to convince these atheists that there is a God or a spirit realm when they make up only about 3% of world population. In social sciences, anything below 5% is considered insignificant, so why expend so much effort and energy arguing with them? They ask stupid questions thinking they are smart as if the 3% are wiser and smarter than the 97% who believe in a higher being or the spirit realm.
So, really, why do we even care?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_atheism

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atheism

Depends on what you mean by "sin". The word means different things to different people.

lilcutie8916: In this generation of ours, sin is like the life blood in which it flourishes. Youths furnicate and regard it as fun, females dress half naked and call it fashion, u can can check the phone of a guy or chick now and u will find only trash there and they call it music, where the artist is either talking about sex or making money or nigbht club. We should all know that these are all the vices of the devil to lead this generation and that of the future to eternal damnation. Now youths run away from from any teaching thnat doesnt fit with their life .please we should have a rethink. I was once a sinner and by the grace of GOD i am a now born again and i have known no greater joy in the ever loving arms of JESUS and u too can do the same.

The problem here is that the two parties can't do without each other. Where there is an atheist, there will be a theist or religionist in the form of christians or muslims, as far as NR is concerned, at least.

If atheists should decide to stay away, it won't take too long before the religionists start talking about them again by opening threads on them. You feed off each other and that is why both of you are in here all the time.

FXKing2012: If I don't eat yam, then what the heck am I doing in the yam market if not that I'm just looking for trouble. This is the religion section, so it beats me when people who proclaim to be irreligious invade this territory of ours. This section is meant for Christians and religious people to motivate and build one another, not an avenue for atheists to launch all sorts of missiles on our faith.
If I see a thief or a trouble maker in my house, I chase such away cos he's got no business there; Jesus chased away those selling in the house of God cos they ought not be there. So if you see me attacking atheists in here it's becos they aint supposed to be here.

So muskeeto, mr anony, pastor kun, mcdaddy01, Kay17, mkmyers45, area boy, 2good, cyrexx, dipwater, ghostofsparta, niflheim, logic mind, logic boy, delafruita, martian, dilluminati, dekung, and all others who claim to be equal to animals, try to understand when I come at you.

JESUS LOVES YOU STILL!

Come on, fellas. Let's play the blame game! Who is your all time favourite boo deity?

Dat ting taya me o, my buroda!!!
They all worship a despicable evil deity and yet, they can't stop talking about how morally upright they are because of the worship of this very same diety(s).

Zodiac61: Why don't you just ask the question you really want to ask - Is morality possible without god?
Yes it is.
I am amazed when christians and muslims cliam that their gods are the source of morality.
Have they ever read the bible or the koran?
Antone who reads both books objectively will come to the conclusion that the gods depicted therein anre immoral characters.

Who do you love to blame for all your troubles? Blame him or her or both in her.

I blame the devil and mamiwater for all my troubles. What about you?

Just because spermatozoa is unicellular does not mean it is not alive meaning that it lives, and what lives must have a soul no matter how small.

fellis: This thread is very old but I couldn't resist writing this down.



I don't really agree. Spermatozoa(sp[i]e[/i]rm cells) are unicellular. Would you say they all possess individual souls? Or would you regard getting rid of them as murder?


My opinion.

Why don't you go to the islamic forum and ask them there? Why are you asking us here?

It does, actually. What is the point of this "code of conduct" that you talk about when all these men of whatever are not going to keep to it? The way i think of this is that if you can't keep to a code of conduct, then you don't have it. Simple.

Mr_Anony:
lol, while I appreciate the humour in your comment, you do realize it really doesn't have any bearing on the argument I am having with logicboy

Lol! Why bother rising if all you are going to do is fall yakata back down again, eh, Mr Anony?

Mr_Anony:

First of all, not every pastor is failing. But then, the reason why pastors can fail is because they have a code of conduct by which they are judged by.
An atheist/agnostic has no such code of conduct. How can a man fail if he doesn't first rise?

Your faith is a huge barrier for you, isn't it? If you are are you truly love the girl, then you would be sure. If you are properly scrutinized, it will be revealed that you do not really love the girl. If it is love, you will be sure and not go about looking for confirmation from some place else other than from your own self.

I would advice you not to waste the girls time with your silly indecisions.

treasure_mi: thanks bro.i love her sincerely jus that my faith wants more proof from God as a confirmation. maybe u dont understand me.

GBAM!And double gbam!! Nothing more to be said.

hillsate: What other answer are you looking for.
You said you are not sure she's God's will for you.
Guy, if you wey know her no know, whish advise you dey find na.
You want blame someone else abi?
Stop hiding under God's will. There is nothing like personal God's will in marriage.
God's will for you in marriage is that you marry someone you love that will compliment you in achieving your purpose in earth. The person you choose is your choice. So that you do not blame anyone tomorrow, just in case.

Why? To get people's attention, of course. They need to keep the followers engaged and interested. What lies in the bible is getting less and less relevant in today's world.It is no longer enough to keep the interest, thus the scandals. Entertainment to the core.

MacDaddy01: Why? Why are the most popular pastors, priests, popes, internet evangelists always guilty of one scandal or the other?


Benny Hinn

Oyedepo

Creflo Dollar

Shockofgod

Okotie

Pat Robertson


etc.



Why are these guys always failing under scrutiny? Why? It seems that every big pastor on TV fails when they come under scrutiny. Why?

Why doesnt this happen to top atheists or agnostics?

Mug.

So, it is better not to learn anything while we are here? Is that what you are trying to say? I think the bible need to put forward a clarification on that quote or else it is the bible that is foolish. After all, we did not come to this world with the said bible, either.

buzugee: YOU ARE RIGHT, i was talking about material things. but this can also apply to worldly knowledge. scripture says For the wisdom of this world is foolishness to God.

Whatever you have learned is yours, of course. Those things you've learned are all part of your experience on earth. I think the OP is talking more about material things that we all run after like money, cars, blings, etc. They are all transient.

okeyxyz: I'm surprised by the sorts of illogical answers posted here. How can you say "We own nothing, We are just borrowing.." I've been going to school since i was 6 years old, been through primary, secondary, university, now i have a masters degree, only to come on here to be told "i don't own my qualifications". Really?? Did somebody "dash" me these qualifications & certificates? did i not earn them by spending money, studying through pain, fear & tears & sleepless nights, eventually gaining the qualifications as witnesses to my achievements?? Well, if not me, then who owns them? let them step forward & prove that it was them & not me who registered & took the tests & exams, etc.

This is surely mal-practice of philosophy.

My life is my experience and my experience, at the end of the day, is only an illusion i'm having. So the answer to your question is, YES, it is an illusion. The only thing that is real is ME, the awareness itself, the consciousness, the one that is seeing.

okeyxyz:

How about your life? is it real or an illusion??

Nobody owns anything on this earth, not even the deity you believe in and worship. They are all met here and will be left behind. Everything one have here are just illusions anyway. They are not real. They come and they go, everything.

Skeptic, arent we all.

I had to, mate. It was making faces at me.

musKeeto:
Lol, u just had to pull the trigger..

The purpose is up in the air, then? No wonder religion is forking people's mind up so bad.

musKeeto: Asking what's the purpose of religion is akin to asking the purpose of a knife. Should it be used to kill humans? Animals? cut vegetables?

The purpose of a tool is defined by the arm that wields it.

I'm irreligious by the way.

First big FAIL there, plaetton. You want to have a discussion on "spirituality" and you invite someone like martian into the discussion?! It is like inviting a carpenter into a discussion on medicine or human physiology. Big fail, bro.

plaetton: The word spirituality is probably one of the most ambigous and misused words.
What is spirituality and spiritual life?
It seems that every has a claim to one or many sorts of spirtual paths, knowledge or experiences.

In Nigerian, even the most mundane and common of issues or events are claimed to have one sort of spiritual inspiriration, connotations, or consequences. Both the christian and moslem dream of leaving this earth behind to live in a spiritual heaven or paradise after.

Does our obsession with spirituality make any sense or have any value?

Lets hear from everyone.

The purpose of religion has totally shifted away from what it was, originally. It was meant to help take our souls up in the spiritual evolutionary ladder. But instead, it is taking mankind down that same ladder. Religion has become a tool of mass programming and societal conformity. It has also, tragically, become a means of human mind control and conflict engineering by the ruling elite.

Religion has become and has been - for 2 millenia now - a very useful and effective tool of mass control of the vast majority of the world populace by the very tiny minority, the ruling class. And in the case of Nigeria, it has become a means of extortion of money from poor people.

I totally disagree with you here, bro. There is nothing like "human spirit" or "animal spirit", bro. Spirit is spirit and it is the same for all living organisms, simple or complex, terrestrial or extra-terrestrial. The spirit remains the same in it's formlessness because it is the ONLY THING IN EXISTENCE.

But the most important information here is that the spirit can incarnate in whatever form it chooses to experience reality in and at whatever time it chooses.

rawtruth: you were really absent-minded, otherwise u would have heard them saying that d human spirit would always reincarnate as human being and not into another form of life. Humanbeings only share only d gross material world with d other creatures but not so in d higher spheres where every thing is defined in its non-material characteristics b4 descending and incarnating through d various species on this earth. So, u can always reincarnate as a humanbeing, but with a personality that is built in line with ur predominant attitude during ur previous earth-life-unless u had put in some effort to redeem or lose what was lost or gained b4 ur death, in which case u reap what u sowed. The human origin is spiritual while d animals are from d animistic, so they can never reincarnate into the other. I hope u would pay a better attention when next d grail people call on u. Thank u.

The tragedy of frosbel.