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countycarer:
I will advise you to take the Poland option as after you finish your course in u.k you are only allowed 2 years to stay and work and there is no guarantee you will get a job right after you finish as there are many unemployed graduates. This is only my personal opinion

Do you mean it's possible you search for jobs for 2 years without getting any offer?

MALIGNANTGuest:
Are you normal at all?
Although most people in Naija aren't normal.
An abnormal country can't yield normal people.
So, it's normal for a Nigerian residing in Naija to come up with such an analogy for a topic.

More so, Nigeria needs more of NATIVE DOCTORS and Traditional Healers than Medical Doctors.

Please IF you are a MEDICAL DOCTOR on this forum and you are not making plans of leaving that country, wateva u see accept it in good faith.
A country that channels its energy elsewhere graduating more YAHOO boys than professionals.

Loool. You must be financially buoyant already before you can relocate as a medical doctor.

Alusiizizi:
Everyone cannot learn how to program. In fact(and I am using real statistics here and not just dreaming up numbers) only less than 1% of **university students** can become sufficiently skilled in programming to become market functional and they are highly sought, not only in Nigeria but also internationally. MBBS on the other hand is quite a bit more lenient to entrants, where it's really about the stamina to go through course work that matters. I do free-lance work internationally and all of my work involves programming, in addition to more technical stuff, and I see about $4000 every month(2million Naira). I'm a bit surprised to learn that MDs earn 300K though. I would have thought at least 1 million a month.

Many earn even way less than the quoted amount (300k) especially those working in private hospitals. I feel you've being quite lucky as only a few programmers earn up to the designated amount. For every programmer earning well, there are equally ten others earning ridiculously low, which I believe you know well enough. Even the lucky private hospital owners in the metropolis could make ten times what you earn in profit; so it all boils down to luck and expertise.

Godsownchild199:
Basically, my boss doesn't pay me directly, my boss adds me to the project team and mandates the clients involved in the project to pay me as they pay my boss. So, basically, my boss opens doors for me to earn outside the office, that's why I said "personal legal project". Mind you, this doesn't come everytime but it's happened five times in a space of 7 months with the most recent happening a few weeks ago.

Nice. The next step could be setting up your own firm.

Godsownchild199:
Hi Everyone, I’m 26 years old and I want to share my little story with you all. I hope you can learn a thing or two from it. This is not my main account, I had to create a new account in view of my decision to share my story on this platform. I’ve been a Nairalander since 2012 and I have benefitted from the amazing academic and career insights shared by many. So, I thought it kind to share mine to help others in this amazing community.

I graduated from the University (if I reveal this, my colleagues who are avid Nairalanders would identify me ) some 4-5 years ago with a second class upper, then proceeded to the Nigerian Law School (still made 2:1) and served in Rivers State. I did my NYSC in a reputable law firm (name withheld) in Port Harcourt. It was quite an experience both good and bad. I left the firm after service year out of frustration due to the poor leadership and mismanagement of funds by the head of office (the guy has since been fired). Mind you, my salary as a corper was 10k (the average NYSC legal associate in Lagos earned at least 5 -7 times this amount). I had depression at this point in my life.

After my unpleasant experience at the Port Harcourt firm and months of depression coupled with deep thinking and reflection, I decided to relocate to Lagos in January 2020 hoping to find a change in perspective. Mind you, I’m not from a poor background, my parents are both highly educated and middle-class workers residing in the South. Part of my resolve in relocating to Lagos was that I wouldn’t practice law again, I’ll probably go into technology, banking, or corporate communications (I speak eloquently).

After my relocation, I teamed up with a friend to work at a technology startup somewhere on the Island but this newfound path didn’t go as planned (I call this divine providence) and I was back to sitting at home. I did a few speaking jobs (volunteering) and some petty legal jobs for my friends and family to get by. At this same time, I was aggressively applying for both legal and non-legal jobs. This decision came on the background of my Dad’s advice that I should dust my CV/Certificates, search for a job and revive my already dwindling legal career. My Dad’s attempt to connect me to a senior partner at a hotshot law firm in Victoria Island failed and I basically had to do it my way.

Fast-forward to mid-February 2020 I had three interviews in three law firms within a space of two weeks. These firms ranged from mid-sized to small-sized. I attended all the interviews, the first interview was in a small law firm managed by a Senior Advocate. The SAN immediately liked my personality and offered to instantly hire me on a monthly pay of 100k (below industry standard). The other two law firms had slightly better remuneration, great structure and were bigger in size and outlook but their recruitment process was lengthy and I had to start immediately with the SAN on my Dad’s advice. I grudgingly stayed with the small firm hoping that I’ll get an offer from either of the two mid-sized firms and then port. Unfortunately, COVID happened and one of the firms discontinued my recruitment process while the other firm out rightly rejected me. I was deeply heartbroken. In order to keep my spirit and dreams alive, my Dad kept drumming into my ears that a smaller firm meant more work and a better learning experience. He kept reiterating the need to “know” the law and stop chasing money (what all senior lawyers say ). So, I was basically stuck with this 100k job, trust me at first the environment was deadening and monotonous (reading law reports and writing legal opinions every day isn’t fun at all ). I felt like ditching my Old man’s advice and resigning during this period but due to COVID, I had to borrow commonsense and stay back. Little did I know that staying back was the best decision I would ever make to date, all thanks to God, my Dad and COVID.

While 100k may sound fair to most people, kindly note that some of my colleagues (with the same academic grades as mine) in top firms earned a monthly average of 250k or more. This awareness made me very discontent and unhappy but I still hung on to my job (a bird in hand is worth more than two in the bush) besides, who quits his or her job in the midst of a COVID induced global economic crises.

Then in October 2020, everything changed! My boss got this very big personal legal project, it was really big and my boss asked me to come on board the project team. I was then paid the sum of N2.5Million for my participation and input in the project. Later on, another personal project came through, although little. I did not even do much this time and my boss gifted me 500 Pounds from the project. All of this financial largess is outside my boss’ magnanimity in other areas like superb mentoring, paying for my professional certifications, and giving me advice (my boss can advise for Africa ), etc. Mind you, no matter how much I’m gifted or paid from the personal projects handled by my boss, my salary is still fully paid and as at when due. All these legal projects are reflected in my CV and have greatly boosted my career prospect. These projects have also helped me to build an impressive Linkedin profile and I’m currently very active in that space.

Recently, I got involved in another personal legal project with my boss and was paid N2 Million from the project fees. Sometimes, I look back at the events of my life and ask myself how I got to this pivotal point. If I hadn’t listened to my Dad’s advice and sought God’s face, I don’t think I would enjoy this type of privilege. I remember asking God for a multinational job but here I was, stuck with a 100k job completely unaware that God put a multinational remuneration in a small office with barely 8 employees. I’ve only worked for a year and 3 months but I’ve achieved what some people haven’t achieved in 3-5 years (career-wise and financially). Please don’t reject certain little offers that come your way, pray to God and seek advice where possible. Some blessings come in disguises and you may never know. This is my little grace-filled career story; I hope it inspires someone today. I want to thank God Almighty for his grace in my career and my lovely parents for their advice and tremendous support.

PS: I have abridged my story to hide certain facts and information for my personal safety and that of my office and boss. My story may sound too good to be true but believe me, it is absolutely true.

Mehn, you write flawlessly

RedChiefPriest:
The only woman I can spend money to bring across the other side of the world over to myself is my mother.
When I travel out, it is in that country I will find my wife.
I will not and never bring a woman over in this era that betraying people is the order of the day.
If you will come then pay for everything.






I'm not talking about messing up and I can't be kicked out of my house except I have a problem with the law not with a woman.

Many tales of men bringing their woman over and she started changing and some even go to the extent of leaving the dude that brought them over to follow another man.
I can't use my money to bring trouble over or bring frustration into my life.


I understand my good man
But evil women are all over,good women are all over,evil men are all over and good men are all over also.
Marrying a citizen can go wrong or right and marrying a Nigerian lady can go either wrong or right also.
No manual on how to live life,we just take risk and hope it turns out right.

Very true, particularly the last statement. You have wisdom bro.

RedChiefPriest:
The only woman I can spend money to bring across the other side of the world over to myself is my mother.
When I travel out, it is in that country I will find my wife.
I will not and never bring a woman over in this era that betraying people is the order of the day.
If you will come then pay for everything.

It's even more risky marrying a citizen as they all have Western orientation. It's still quite possible to find Nigerian ladies who see marriage as something sacred.

seunny4lif:
How did EFCC knows someone is a yahoo boy
All they just go around and when they see someone with a laptop and a car then boom a yahoo boy because that’s now how it’s works in Senegal

Loool!! Really? Anyone with a system is a fraudster in Senegal?

blazepascal:
almost every young guy is into Yahoo that's just the truth .obtaining money under false pretence.

This baseless and stupid generalisation is enough reason to live the country. I make my money legitimately working remotely and I've been thinking of establishing a firm/business here in Nigeria. But with this mentality, I'll rather gather the money, go for a masters abroad, and find my way into the system.

roteblomen:
I'm not in a present relationship at the moment, but what I missed about my ex is the absence of her need to be right. Her peaceful, settled and responsible behaviour. Her homely attributes, and how gracious she revel in her feminity. You'll never see her curse, use profanity, or treat others in anything but good.

Even those that are in the lowest of the economical hierarchy are treated with utmost respect, and she never misses the chance to pet a random cat when she meets one. She is truly a pure soul to behold. She sets the standards for what a woman should be so high, that I've hardly came across women out there that can match, talk more of exceed her in these attributes.

The only person (except my family) that I can 100% be myself with. I don't have to meet some externally imposed standards in her presence. I can just be. I can be broke, rich, sad, happy, overweight, whatever, and she just loved me regardless. God bless her. The kind of jewel you truly know the value of only when it's gone. God bless her.

Why did you let a girl with these qualities go?

pretydiva:
He should be made to face the full wrath of the law. Shameless paedophile

I guess you don't know a bail means? Doesn't mean he's free yet of the alleged accusations.

Thecreatorx:
Same reply I have for ye leaches;
" person go finish study instead of an to find job or hospital to work make e go start to apply visa 10 years make them scam e Papa and all his savings, you guys are dumb. How many Nigerians apply for Visa vs how many get the visa? Yuck!!"

Like I said OP, kindly ignore this comment as I am about to. I don't even understand this.

Thecreatorx:
You bleeped up big time, you just need strangers to console you and give you false hopes LMAO, nursing is the worst a guy can study in Nigeria. No matter how sophisticated and knowledgeable you are, even the least Professional doctor will tremble on you! You can't open a hospital as a nurse, you can't command respect, you'll be paid chicken change when the doctor you worked with in a theater gets millions, you bleeped up. Nigeria isn't USA where nurses get special privileges even if they're still greatly underpaid, guy better retake jamb or do change of department. Anybody who advices you otherwise is just inexperienced, I've witnessed first hand how a very intelligent male nurse has been cheated all his life. Guy use your head, Nigerian no be USA, even school fees you no go fit pay for your children, just watch!!

OP, please ignore this comment totally.

Dhavido:
So, I senior this babe
Here I am learning programming, hoping to land my first remote job as an intern to build my resume before gunning for an entry level junior developer role.

See my junior don achieve many things and my only achievement na lapi and small change wey I get for crypto

Put yourself under pressure at your own peril.

fuckingAyaya:
he will train those goats till dey die,you think say na African man abi

Train them to be what?

Openedheavens:
Thanks guys, I'm very grateful.
One last question. I was surfing the CRS calculator and I discovered my 28 year old wife could also be the leading applicant (incase age catches up on me before the ITA) only if she has 2 or more certificates.

My wife is a radiographer with post graduate certificate in ultrasound scan which was only a 2 weeks course.
Firstly, will this 2 weeks course be evaluated as an additional certificate?
Also, how much will I have to pay WES for this since I will be sending her certificate, transcript and the post graduate certificate?
Cc: abdomox , abnot

In addition to your certificates and transcripts, you'll need to have your licensing body (MDCN) send a letter of good standing to MCCN.
Is radiography a professional course? As in, do they have a licensing body? If so, it would be evaluated as a B.sc plus Masters (which would increase your CRS score), just like nursing, medicine, and Pharmacy. For your wife, look up CAMRT (the certifying body for medical technologists and radiographers) online. The thing is, for EE, professional courses are evaluated by their licensing bodies rather than WES. I'm not sure evaluating your wife's degree with WES is the right move. However, you can easily send a mail to WES to get the right information if the 2 weeks course can be evaluated as well as the cost. You'll 100% get a reply.

Openedheavens:
Thanks so much, you don't know how this has helped. I went out to the market just now to get foodstuff and trust me, I can't survive without a car.
I will go to school this week, to go start my transcript processing.

Medicine processing is a bit different as evaluation is not done by WES but the medical body. I already opened an account with the medical body for my credentials evaluation for $304. And each credential evaluated costs about $145.
Considering cost, do I need to evaluate my certificate too for the purpose of express entry? Or will only my transcript suffice?

Both certificate and transcript.

ratiken:
2.6M = 5.3k USD.... I don't think Nigerians fully understand what Buhari has done.

If your earning is naira... forget it, you have lost so much value. The average Nigerian millionaire aint rich.

5.3k USD monthly is 60K USD monthly. Only 37% of Americans earn above 50k per annum. Always rushing to make conversions without considering the economic differences.

MrWondah:
1. More than 4 years
2. Different timezones, worked with UK, Indians, US, Australians. First they must know I'm a proud Nigerian, if they are unwilling to work with one then they should f*CK off with their money.
3. Depends on project, min $15 per hour.
4. Both temp and permanent. Currently on permanent with Automatic.
6. Software engineer
7. Hired, LinkedIn, Hubstaff talent, we work remotely, stackoverflow etc
8. Stable, been using MTN for a while.
9.If you are a Developer, build a lot of projects. Be able to defend your project. Clients will come knocking. Ignore those street peeps calling you Yahoo as long as you are legit

The last part . I'm surprised no one has spoken about this yet.

samwash:
The numbers of guys doing Yahoo is more than the guys using the internet legitimately.

Where did you get this statistics from?

Sleekfingers:
naso one brainless electrician came to my house to fix something.....i was in my sitting doing something on my laptop...after he finished his work....he said, oga se ele ko omo mi ni yahoo yahoo( can u teach my child yahoo yahoo? I was so furious....i sat him down....and educate him.....

Imagine so anything laptop is now Yahoo? Stupid country with dumb people

Dpaulie:
Not only online , once you're doing well and they don't know how you're making it.. gbam, u don enter am, they'll start calling u names...thank God there's even Yahoo! nowadays they would have named u a ritualist.The fact that you're doing better than them...na name calling!!

This is the truth....

Seniorwriter:
So to earn $400k yearly is impossible from your own standpoint right? SMH @your statement! Howbeit it's not only Upwork that exist for online earning ways....though I'm sure you ain't too good at comprehending cos I stated both Monthly & Yearly!
NL has rules towards how much one can divulge.

Deep Quote
Ability to read and comprehend is a Superpower.

@Seniorwriter.

Lool bro. You clearly saw the question mark, which implies that it's questionable from my perspective, not entirely impossible. 400k is possible for a company/group, but for an individual?

Seniorwriter:
How is $30k monthly or a year for an individual an exaggeration....SMH @you.

Deep Quote
Smart people ask the right questions but assumption is for the low minded


@Seniorwriter

Loool. You said monthly bro; 30k a year is highly achievable and quite easy if you ask me. However, 30k monthly for an individual (and not a company/group) on Upwork? That's approximately 400k yearly; well, kindly indulge and educate me.

Seniorwriter:
Online Remote jobs anywhere anytime is better
You can get to earn as much as $30000(thirty thousand ) monthly or yearly depends on time spent and jobs completed because of your location doing transcribing or voice over. It's a lil harder from Africa especially Nigeria because of Online scams associated to such regions though some of us still find our way around the challenges!

@Seniorwriter

30K monthly? For an individual? Stop exaggerating bro

tensazangetsu20:
You forgot horrible internet speed. I lost a job of 1.6 million naira a month because of the rubbish Internet speed in Nigeria it pains me everyday because even though I earn well relatively I don't still make up to half of that. So painful.

Haaaaw

farouk2much:
it's all a story......get rich or die trying..........and I still want to leave naija by all means it's do or die affairs sef

don't make it a do or die affair abeg. Don't go through the Libya route and get your organs harvested. Leave through the right means...

drLammy:
Stop discouraging people to Japa , a lot of folks are making it in the abroad regardless..

50/50 Life na dice

Where in the write-up did he discourage you to leave? If you want to, he only advised to leave through the legal route, else you face the consequences, such as deportation, imprisonment, and travel ban. I believe English isn't so hard to comprehend.

Obinoscopy:
I only have info on how to become a pharmacist in the US. Don't know much about Canada.

So to become a pharmacist in the US, you have to pass the Foreign Pharmacist Exam (FPGEE) and then you'll be required to write the State Board Exams.

Each State in the US has their own State board exams so you will have to select the State where you wish to practice and write their exam. However, the State Board exams is conducted by the same body....NABP. And the exam comprises NAPLEX and MPJE. NAPLEX is clinically oriented while MPJE is pharmacy law oriented.

Once you pass the State Board Exams, you can then do your internship. You are required to intern for 1500 hrs before you can get your license. Note that some States require that you intern first before writing the State Board Exams while others require that you intern after passing the exams. So it varies.

To write FPGEE, you need to pass TOEFL and also to get the required documentations. The pass mark for TOEFL is very high (you must get a score of 22 in Reading, 21 in Listening, 26 in Speaking and 24 in Writing) and TOEFL must be written in the US. The other documentations required are your transcript, your B Pharm or Pharm D certificate, your Nigerian PCN license, and letters from both your school and PCN confirming that you are a Pharmacist. You don't need to have any work permit or greencard to write the FPGEE Exam. You don't need to habe social security number.

For NAPLEX and MPJE however, you must have your social security number before you can write those. And to get your socials, you must either be a student in the US or have your work permit or a green card.

Getting internship hours in the US is also very difficult....especially if you want to be paid while working as an intern. The best route to go is to first work as a cashier in hospitals or pharmacies and then you can grow and develop good relationship with the management. You can even grow to become an Pharm Tech while working with them. So once you've passed your Board Exam, you can then ask that they convert you to become an intern.

Hi legend, can I sit for the FPGEE in Nigeria or I'll need to do that in the US? And if so, what class of visa do I apply for to do that?

moneyissweet:
Niggar I am a money making machine, so carry your useless advice to other nairaland broke ass niggars.


Your $4000 a month can't even buy me my real niggars 2 bottles of French wine at Burj khalifa on weekends.

Probably you are one of those stupid idiots who thinks that anyone on nairaland is jobless.

If you know who I am,you go hide your broke ass face.

To start with, I might not be where I want (as humans keep wanting more regardless), but I'm definitely not broke and I'm doing very well. By the way, you're not anything and I doubt you'll amount to anything tangible. You're just a shameless scammer who live off people's sweat with no iota of dignity. That's the problem with you guys; no vision, no mission, nor tangible objective or goal. All you do is lavish proceeds of fraud on sluts, hotels, drinks, Instagram, and end up dying miserably. It's only a matter of time you get caught and spend the rest of your life behind bars. Imagine taking pride living off people's life savings, mortgage plan, and medical bills; you've lost every bit of human conscience and will surely reap the fruits of your evil labor. Cheap wicked ignorable arrogant criminal-minded lowlife.

moneyissweet:
So if u no be game boy,wetin be your work and why u dey always stay indoor?

A word of advice: if you're finding it difficult to get people to work with on Fiverr or Upwork, go to indeed and flexjobs; many corporations and individuals are recruiting writers, designers, programmers, and editors, among others worldwide.

Many editing organisations, such as charlesworth group, editage, scribendi, wordvice, Enago, crimson interactive, American Journal experts, and Accdon recruit worldwide; you might not get a full-time job, but there's a chance of being hired as a freelancer/ on contract. The recruitment process might vary across companies, but all that's required is to take their test and pass. Don't be deterred if you don't pass the test once; try and keep trying until you pass. USE THE INTERNET! A friend (after years of endless and tireless job hunting) learnt resume writing/cover letter online and makes 3500-4000 USD consistently, with little stress. Hazzantarzzan makes beat/vocals online and has his own house/car already. I used to be like you, and it would be painful for you to age into your 40's with this poverty mentality.
My five cents.

maishai01:
Na wa.

This one everyone is forming good boy here.

I don't think people can be that daft to tag u a geeboy simply because you look good.

Usually there are other signs that give u away.

For instance you know someone who's father is not Dangote or Otedola, yet drives a 2022 lexus Jeep and tell me it's 'online work' or 'freelancing' or some s**t like that.

Abeg make i hear word!!

Poverty must have really eaten deep into your veins for your mentality to have been warped this bad.