Christianity Etc › Re: How Was Jesus King Of The Jews? by Jman24(m): 5:22pm On Jan 15, 2021 |
sonmvayina: For you to be a king ,you must be fromthe blood line of David through solomon his son. God promised that the sceptre will not depart from Judah.
Jesus is not from anywhere as the story says he has no father. And neither the geneology in mathew and luke can produce a king.
God never ever said the messiah will be a demi god or a deity. Or that he was coming as a sacrifice for sin..
Jesus is more of a mythological character than a real person... Exactly. Africans don't even know what's in their Bible They don't read for themselves but quick to swallow any twisted story they learnt from preachers |
Christianity Etc › Re: Is Jesus Christ Jehovah? by Jman24(m): 5:06pm On Jan 15, 2021 |
Maamin: You are doing the same thing that you dont want another to do to you  Lol. I can even climb one of their pulpits and twist the salvation story to the side of Judas. After all it was through him that Jesus was betrayed and if not for that .. maybe salvation wouldn't have come fast. Remember Jesus told Judas explicitly "do what you have to do fast" All these are philosophical ideas. And yet, someone else could counter me that it's not so since a curse was placed on one through whom the son of man would be hung on a tree. Africans... Una well done |
Christianity Etc › Re: Is Jesus Christ Jehovah? by Jman24(m): 4:57pm On Jan 15, 2021 |
[quote author=bixton post=98090493][/quote]Logical reason is logical reason hallucinations is hallucination. It is illogical to say a part of immortality became mortal. That's my point. But any other submission we are bringing to the table is not an absolute because they were stories written by mortals |
Christianity Etc › Re: Is Jesus Christ Jehovah? by Jman24(m): 4:51pm On Jan 15, 2021*. Modified: 6:44pm On Jan 15, 2021 |
bixton: One of the major problem of man to God's word is understanding and ability to comprehend.
The Bible is not a circular book. Oh, give me a break.! But you can comprehend or twist what ever suits you? There is nothing academical here. God being immortal and a part of him became mortal.? come on Africans! |
Christianity Etc › Re: Is Jesus Christ Jehovah? by Jman24(m): 12:13pm On Jan 15, 2021 |
Maamin: Now you are saying there are more than one true God? 
You seem to be roping yourself one way or the other. Hahahaha He hasn't realized that yet But all these stories are just philosophical ideas of people |
Christianity Etc › Re: Is Jesus Christ Jehovah? by Jman24(m): 11:40am On Jan 15, 2021 |
Tcwork: We, I disagree with you, Yaweh is not Jehovah. Jesus Christ is Jehovah. It was Jesus Christ (Jehovah ) that visited Moses and spoke with him face to face not Yahweh They exchanged the glory of the immortal God for......lol(Romans 1: 22 & 25) Jesus had a mortal body This Roman philosophers were good at contradicting themselves lol |
Christianity Etc › Re: Is Jesus Christ Jehovah? by Jman24(m): 11:33am On Jan 15, 2021 |
Maamin: The same way you're creating classes of Gods and differentiating small letter g and capital letter G God some while ago. Lol. That's the funny thing about religion. Each want to protect their doctrines |
Christianity Etc › Re: Is Jesus Christ Jehovah? by Jman24(m): 11:29am On Jan 15, 2021 |
bixton: It is those cultures that brought in the words immortal, deity,etc,etc, trying to transcribe(permit my usage) the glory of their god to that of the living God.
The Scripture I read does not have religion written in it and God did not give religion to man. Religion is an offspring(off shoot) of the Greeks. It was never of the Jews.
One of the reasons God called and chose Abraham was that he forsook the culture of his father and learn the culture that God will hand over to him. This is one of the reasons why God always never wanted Israel to marry strange women so that they don't give in to strange ways.
Our marriage into the so called religion is not God's doing.
Those who are pagans who wanted to live double life brought the word religion into being to have some form of acceptance.
Those who brought the word to us did a good thing because it is a command in the book.
Matt.24.14 - And this gospel of the kingdom will be preached in all the world as a witness to all the nations, and then the end will come.
Now to those who have the Scripture they should read the Words all over again to know what is required of each one.
So whether you have or believing in an invisible God, an immortal being, or an immortal God who becoming dead(mortal) for your sin....
It's important to note that whoever cares to believe it will be granted to him by the One whose word is Truth, Life and Light, tested and trusted all through the ages to the end of the age.
There is only One God and Jesus is His Son who died and resurrected that all men may be reconciled to the Father. Stop contradicting your self. You claim it was people who brought the word ; immortal, deity etc but it wasn't people that suggested or wrote that Jesus died to reconcile us to same invisible God. Unless you are telling me a part of God who is immortal died. ( you have made a nonsense of his immortality if you ask me) Like I said, nothing is 'absolute' |
Christianity Etc › Re: Is Jesus Christ Jehovah? by Jman24(m): 9:40am On Jan 15, 2021 |
MaxInDHouse: The manuscript that has helped in bringing people from different races even penetrating the den of world's most racist nations to form one global family! 
YES! I completely believe that this manuscript is from the one with whom all things are possible!  I'm happy you realized it was meant to control a large population with you inclusive |
Christianity Etc › Re: Is Jesus Christ Jehovah? by Jman24(m): 9:23am On Jan 15, 2021 |
MaxInDHouse: Highlighted! 
I can notice that in your post so you too can see the difference between worshipers of my own God and worshipers of other Gods. My own God demand whole soul devotion! Mark 12:30 Of course we welcome people from all races and we don't ask for perfection but you must recognize the one source of Spiritual nourishment and willing to abide by the standard so when you commit blunders nobody judges you because we're all imperfect. One thing you mustn't do is rebel against divine required standard!  No matter how good, nice or kind you may prove to be, as long as you don't recognize one source of divine guidance, you can't worship our own God. That's the import of John 3:16, take note of the phrase Only begotten SON! it connotes one line of thought! John 17:20-23  Max you are a funny fellow. Taking to heart a manuscript a foreigner handed over to you. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Is Jesus Christ Jehovah? by Jman24(m): 9:06am On Jan 15, 2021 |
MaxInDHouse: Highlighted sounds really funny! 
"No stone will be left on the other"~ Jesus of Nazareth Luke 21:6
You can never find a single person that will truly agree with you! Luke 11:23
That's the heritage of practicers of pure worship! John 17:20-23; 1Corinthians 1:10; Ephesians 4:3
Of course the world hates the truth but truth seekers will be united as one big and happy family of peace loving worshipers {Micah 4:3} not by man-made doctrines but by the power of God's Holy Spirit! John 17:14-17  Of course you can't find many that could agree with you. But don't make it look like it was Jesus that first had the idea people won't agree with you. These are philosophical ideas known to people before biblical Jesus |
Christianity Etc › Re: Is Jesus Christ Jehovah? by Jman24(m): 8:57am On Jan 15, 2021 |
MaxInDHouse: Man made religion! 
It's pathetic that you don't know the meaning of the phrase man made religion But for the benefit of humble, honest hearted and sincere followers i'll explain.
There is no way you can distinguish between pure worship and man made religion by simply quoting books! WHY? Because each religionist will stick to what is written in the book he believes and the interpretation given to the texts by their teachers. So how can we detect man-made doctrines ?
Man-made doctrines will never produce the fruit of God's Holy Spirit in the midst of it's adherents {Matthew 7:16-18} this fruit has nine tastes as recorded @ Galatians 5:22-23. What blurs the sight of most people is the Gift of the SPIRIT which could be found in all religions, for instance there is no religion where they don't prophesy, speak in tongues, see visions, perform miraculous healings, teachings and what have you. But as regards the FRUIT only pure worship can produce this because it's God's Holy Spirit that's working it out not demons, and mind you demons do have all those gifts because they were also spirit sons of God before they rebelled. But the FRUIT is what they can't produce because the spirit producing that is not an independent spirit rather it's God's active force in the midst of people practicing pure worship!  If you noticed, even my submissions, I don't take it to heart. But I make submissions based on the standards in your good book. Which was clear that people over time exchanged the glory of the "immortal" God. My submission is not an absolute!! Gracias ! |
Christianity Etc › Re: Is Jesus Christ Jehovah? by Jman24(m): 8:55am On Jan 15, 2021 |
Salvation naturally comes when you turn away from evil and do good that's all. And that's why you have so many vices now; they throw away conscience for religion; where u are promised salvation, therefore u can commit all sorts of atrocities and hope ur sins are washed at on dial to heaven Even when u have not conscientiously done away with adultery for instance.
The standard from your good book from Genesis to revelation is to make effort to stop evil, do the right things and you are saved. Very logical
*(2chronicles 7:14)* if My people who are called by My name will humble themselves, and pray and seek My face, and *turn from their wicked ways*, then I will hear from heaven, and will *forgive their sin* and heal their land. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Is Jesus Christ Jehovah? by Jman24(m): 8:41am On Jan 15, 2021 |
The death of someone for your sins is nothing short of peganism if you ask me. Immortal means not dieing. So a part of God dieing is the craziest thing man can ever conceive. It is not even spiritually or humanly logical(if there is anything like that). It's just indoctrination .. that's why a few wouldn't agree with me |
Christianity Etc › Re: Is Jesus Christ Jehovah? by Jman24(m): 8:31am On Jan 15, 2021 |
MaxInDHouse: If he truly understood he won't ask you any question! For the fact that he still asked a question shows he hasn't agreed with you but since you don't know what next to say you'll rather look for means of escape after divulging your personal preconceived thoughts. Well that's the difference between true Christians and misinformed Churchgoers who are also claiming Christians. Jesus never asked his followers to walk away from someone who asks questions rather they must ascertain whether there is an agreement or not, if there's an agreement the person becomes their brother in faith but when there's disagreement they mark that place {Matthew 10:13} they mark the place means the person is not someone with whom they're worshiping the same God that's why Jesus said such ones will not survive the coming destruction! Matthew 10:14-15
It's pathetic seeing arrogant misinformed Churchgoers claiming they're also preaching when they're not making any progress in disciple making work Jesus commissioned.
Please between the OP and you what was the conclusion of your chatting? Obviously both just went your separate ways without any concrete agreement on teaching! 
So are both of you Christians worshiping the same God now that you're not of the same line of thought? 1Corinthians 1:10 
That's why JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES believes you guys are just deceiving yourselves!  Lol. Stop dragging me into man made religion. That response "I'm impressed you understood.." was not for you It wasn't necessary to write this man made epistle of yours |
Christianity Etc › Re: Is Jesus Christ Jehovah? by Jman24(m): 8:27am On Jan 15, 2021 |
bixton: There's no such thing as test running. It's not an automobile machine.
No one can truly practice what he/she does not believe and have faith in. Lol . Sorry if I used the word test running. Hahahaha You see where you got it wrong. I said christians missed the link by exchanging the glory of the immortal for created stories. And what's wrong or strange about believing in an immortal invisible God. It is even more realistic than a part of God(immortal) becoming dead(mortal) for your sin. Many cultures believed in the almighty invisible(more realistic) even before religion was brought to them. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Is Jesus Christ Jehovah? by Jman24(m): 4:33am On Jan 15, 2021*. Modified: 5:02am On Jan 15, 2021 |
Tcwork: What does the death of Christ mean to you? I'm impressed you understood the write up. just follow your conviction. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Is Jesus Christ Jehovah? by Jman24(m): 10:32pm On Jan 14, 2021 |
haddeylium: Good! Now learn at your Pace! Jehovah is the only person that is referred to as the source of Salvation 'No other one beside him' (Isa 43:11; 45:21). He did this through men he raised as Saviour.
...and because of your great mercy, you would give them saviors to rescue them out of the hand of their adversaries.(Neh 9:27).
All other are appointed to serve as Saviour. Several Judges served in this capacities; Othniel, Ehud, Moses (Jg 2:16; 3:9, 15). Salvation is provided by JEHOVAH through all these men.
Likewise. Jesus name means -JEHOVAH is Saviour! So, Jesus was sent as Saviour by Jehovah 'the principal saviour'(1Jo 4:14) Jehovah is Jesus saviour included (Heb 5:7; Ps 28:8.) What should that tell you?
So, Jehovah as the Principal Saviour provided salvation through those men and Jesus. You have some valid points. Christians Don't even understand what they practice. They think through the death of a messenger (which is peganism) they are saved. When you carefully study the good book from beginning to the end, you will see how people tried hard to mock God by exchanging the glory of the immortal God(without death) for other practices(religion & death-related atonement) ~Romans 1:22-23 & 25 But this is a logical standard; *And behold, one came and said unto him, Good Master, what good thing shall I do, that I may have eternal life? And he said unto him, Why callest thou me good? There is none good but one, that is, God: but if thou wilt enter into life, keep the commandments. (Matt 19:16-17)* In day to day activities. Those commandments.. shape the society well. So you can actually view an eternal life(if there is anything like that) by test running the commandments here on Earth.~ "near logical" |
Christianity Etc › Re: Is Jesus Christ Jehovah? by Jman24(m): 8:12pm On Jan 14, 2021*. Modified: 10:07pm On Jan 14, 2021 |
[/b]Tcwork : You ask for scriptures when I have given you 10s. I believe you did not follow this thread from the start. 1 John4.14 just says it all. Jesus Christ/ Jehovah was sent to be the Savior of the world. There is nothing like a principal saviour. And no need for the [b]match fixing, just make your pointsReligion religion. He was sent to save the world [b][/b]with what exactly  |
Family › Re: Man Catches His Wife Sleeping With Another Man; Takes A Selfie With Them (Pix) by Jman24(m): 9:10pm On Jan 13, 2021 |
Goalnaldo: I guess this didn't happen in Nigeria because as the man brings out his phone to snap, the two adulterers would have scampered for safety. Lol. Do u know what transpired before the selfie?. I don't think the door was unlocked. And at the same time they were grateful to take the picture in a standing position than a compromised position.. Hahahaha |
Christianity Etc › Re: Jesus Is Not God Neither Are There Any Trinity In One by Jman24(m): 4:39pm On Jan 09, 2021 |
Janosky: Bros go & read those scriptures in Greek interlinear and stop DECEIVING yourself, Olodo 
* John 1:1 " the word was facing towards the God", Almighty his Father. The word is not his Father, the God Almighty (in John 1:1,Greek 3588 2316), go and confirm.
* Hebrews1:2, Greek 3588 2316 is not Jesus Christ, Olodo LIENUS. Go & confirm it.
Colossians 1:16-18 & Matthew 27:43,46 43He trusted God, so let God rescue him now if he wants him! For he said, ‘I am the Son of God.’” . 46At about three o’clock, Jesus called out with a loud voice, “Eli, Eli,j lema sabachthani?” which means “My God, my God, why have you abandoned me?”
"The first born from the dead " killed by men, crying & begging "my God, my God" , na Almighty God of Emusan,  Bros, your Olodo & LIENUS is legendary  Nice one. The problem is Africans don't read. They don't even know where their problem began and they may not know where it ends. It's a pity they have been stereotyped... |
Christianity Etc › Re: Demon Tongue / Speaking In Tongues by Jman24(m): 10:12pm On Jan 08, 2021 |
GofuckYourself: It's sad indeed
And generally they are not happy people You are not far from the truth. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Demon Tongue / Speaking In Tongues by Jman24(m): 10:04pm On Jan 08, 2021 |
MaxInDHouse: Well Jesus made us FISHERS OF MEN {Luke 5:10} but that doesn't mean we're catching just every Dick and Harry, we have specific kind of people we were sent out to search for {Matthew 10:6} so don't feel special Sir.
Regarding the highlighted we try to search for the sheep of our God by gaining common grounds while reasoning from the scriptures. So i wasn't agreeing with your point Sir i only noticed we have a common ground, but if you're not interested in becoming a member of our spiritual family there's no reason to quarrel with you. One thing i'll like you to know is that the true God is using his holy spirit to gather his worshipers from all the four corners of the earth into one Organization before he commence with his judgment {Matthew 13:30} that's why you're seeing thousands of people trying to pitch their tent in one place or another. I'm not saying you should join any religion now but there is no way anyone can find PEACE spiritually speaking if he's not connected to Jesus' real followers! Luke 11:23
May you find PEACE!  You always confirm my assertions. Hahahaha. May peace remain with you. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Demon Tongue / Speaking In Tongues by Jman24(m): 9:36pm On Jan 08, 2021 |
Valkrie: Exactly.. all is man made...no exception and it's all a means to an end.. The funniest sect I have seen is jw. You will say what they like but they will still add to what you like to make it look like you don't like what you like... Hahahaha |
Christianity Etc › Re: Demon Tongue / Speaking In Tongues by Jman24(m): 9:30pm On Jan 08, 2021 |
GofuckYourself: Your church is even the worst
You tell them they can't give their family members blood transfusion?
You deny them medical care they need 
You tell kids they can't celebrate their birthday? Why rub a child of this joy?
You tell them Christmas is a pagan holiday? What? 
You tell them that easter is a pagan holiday ?
Your religion 8s lifeless and a bondage
That is no way to live  JW peeps always find a way to appear the true religion. Forgetting that all religion on Earth is man made. Lol The other time I was discussing with Max about Jesus not the almighty, he still tried to technically lure me to their beliefs while agreeing with my point. Very funny people |
Christianity Etc › Re: Jesus Christ Is God Almighty- Fresh Exhibit by Jman24(m): 7:43pm On Jan 08, 2021 |
Preciousgirl: Do you know that when a man sleeps his spirit is awake? Spirits don't sleep. Jesus was God in man's flesh. When the flesh slept, the God in that body was always awake
That's why u see dreams in your sleep
I am sure the above is too high for your comprehension Oh Africans and twisting English "Shall neither slumber nor sleep'' (definitive) How Africans defend anything they see; "He was sleeping but his spirit was alert." The question is. Did Jesus sleep? Yes So it's a 'direct negative' to Psalm 121 vs4 Oh my Africa! |
Christianity Etc › Re: Jesus Is Not God Neither Are There Any Trinity In One by Jman24(m): 9:23am On Jan 07, 2021 |
MaxInDHouse: My friend, the truth is there are many Gods in existence both in heaven and on earth {1Corinthians 8:5} but there is also the highest living being who is Supreme! Psalms 83:18
All of them are referred to as Gods in the Bible, the only difference is how each one present himself, proofs of his Godship and those worshiping him!
That's why JEHOVAH went to Egypt to deliver his own worshipers from under the nose of all the mighty Gods in Egypt to prove himself as the Almighty {Exodus 6:2-3} who can even make a mortal man like Moses a God mightier than all the deities in Egypt put together! Exodus 7:1
May you have PEACE!  Even the bible reffered to humans as gods 'ye are gods' Where people get it wrong is that they have attributed all these other Gods to be God almighty(the affirmative)By the teachings of trinity( staggering opinions of sect within a sect if you ask me) |
Christianity Etc › Re: Jesus Is Not God Neither Are There Any Trinity In One by Jman24(m): 9:08am On Jan 07, 2021 |
MaxInDHouse: Well God's word referred to Satan as the "God of this world" John 14:30; 2Corinthians 4:4o
So your affirmative doesn't count now!  My illustration was relative. The world is not all thats existing so satan the God of this world is still not affirmative. So satan isn't God. You can never see anything like "the god of this world, worship him' Also u can never see jesus say 'i'm God, worship me' It is only one God, the almighty(the affirmative) I'm happy you are getting the joke small small |
Christianity Etc › Re: Jesus Is Not God Neither Are There Any Trinity In One by Jman24(m): 8:31am On Jan 07, 2021 |
MaxInDHouse: Are you saying a King is not same as King shey?  'A king' in owerri means there are possibilities of other kings and not the main king 'king of owerri' (affirmative) the sole authority So when u say someone is a God, it is not affirmative. English language |
Christianity Etc › Re: Why Did Jesus Have To Leave The Earth Before The Holy Spirit Would Come? by Jman24(m): 8:22am On Jan 07, 2021 |
jesusjnr2020: You just proved me right that these things exceed the scope of carnal minds, otherwise you'd understand that the answer i gave tallies with those already given by those you call the early Christians even though you're not able to comprehend it.
Moreover if being able to comprehend the things of the Spirit means being African to you, then I'm proudly African! Bro stop playing around with words |
Christianity Etc › Re: Why Did Jesus Have To Leave The Earth Before The Holy Spirit Would Come? by Jman24(m): 8:33pm On Jan 06, 2021 |
MaxInDHouse: Please don't hold the highlighted as a priority because that's why most people will never agree with reasonableness, just have it at the back of your mind that we want to learn from each other and through learning we gain wisdom.
Knowledge is the accumulation of useful information, of course all sane people have it.
But Wisdom is the practical application of accumulated information for lasting benefits, this is where most people failed!
So before we can know Who the REAL Christians are today we need to figure out first
What is Christianity and what was Jesus' aim to have taught his disciples new things?  You still haven't responded to my submission Simple question. Who are the real christians? |
Christianity Etc › Re: Jesus Is Not God Neither Are There Any Trinity In One by Jman24(m): 8:30pm On Jan 06, 2021 |
MaxInDHouse: You need to know what the Bible say about that title "GOD" according to God's word a God is anybody at whose order/wish things are done or happens. That's why God told Moses i make you God to Pharaoh {Exodus 7:1} Jesus was a God as whatever he wish comes to pass everywhere he goes {John 1:1} Our human rulers were Gods because at their orders things happens {Psalms 82:6 compared to 1Corinthians 8:5-6} but the Almighty God is one! Deuteronomy 6:4 
English language again.
'A God' is not same as 'God' |